The ATF is Trying To Use After Market Trigger To Expand The Definition of A Machine Gun 

That's a great statement. I don't want to hear a damn word about the ATF going after any right wing group accused as domestic terrorists when they're giving away to American paid for guns and equipment to terrorist groups in Afghanistan.

@Super Duper , I totally agree with your statement but we both know their gonads are not that big!

Preach

Well said 👍

The atf still wont have any right to lecture anyone, period

Not one M4 but an entire advanced airforce with over 200 aircraft and a ground forces twice that large. Also thousands of m4's, m16's, ak47's, barret 50 cal's. , night vision , body armor and even air strike drones. The taliban now have a military that is more equipped than some nations . Our president and his cabinet are traitors to the Americans they abandoned and to the oath of office. But hey! You better fuckin not even think about owning an automatic rifle or pistol because you'll be imprisoned

@@justinharper443 thats what Joe Biden meant by us needing F15s and Nukes to take on the government. He already has his mercenary private security , the Taliban! They’re gonna use drone strikes and gunship attacks on americans. We need to buy an F35

Joe Biden: " bingo"

Obanana did it with "Fast & Furious"

@@carlosnavarrojr.6912 nah I don’t think he would use the Taliban, he’d treat us like terrorist and use the foreign soldiers already on American soil since he gave the Norfolk naval base in Virginia to nato a month maybe two months ago now, Look it up and tell me what you think. Of all the foreign flags on what was our biggest if, not second biggest naval base does not have our flag beside any of them. Oh yeah that wasn’t in the media btw.

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Seriously, he should make a media circus of it and "turn himself in" at the ATF HQ.....

🤣🤣🤣 hilarious

Ya that guy is insane. Wish I had the rounds to practice enough to be half that his lol

He had a serial number tattooed to his trigger finger decades ago

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I wonder if those expert witnesses could file an amicus brief independently of the defence? I'm not a lawyer, so I don't have a clue.

Just as the doctors do: “trust the science”.......trust us !!!

@@ralphm6901 Those experts are all former ATF firearms evaluators...thats why they dont want any experts brought in.

@@Vorpal_Wit understood. I'm just expressing a hope that they might be able to get around the ATF excluding them, by filing a letter in support of RareBreed.

I trust them alright. I trust them as far as I can throw one. I trust them less than I would trust a gator not to bite my hand if I would put it in his mouth.

Actually the United States is trying to be just like Afghanistan. Case in point: their leaders can have whatever arms they like, while simultaneously disarming the populace.

@@jaredourada If you've been to Afghanistan you wouldn't dream of stating what you said. The good 'ol USA is nothing like Afghanistan. We just have to learn to live with gun control - it will always be around. Just be blessed that the USA is one of only a few countries in the world that grants us the right to bear arms. Fact is, there is literally no place in the world that provides more freedoms.

The infidels are gone, you are safe now! Turn in your weapons!

@@anonypersona3189 I've been to Afghanistan and yes America is a lot like it except in Afghanistan you can shoot back. Antifa runs your largest cities and murders with impunity a lot like Afghanistan actually

@@kaisercollins3097 "Antifa runs your largest cities" Ok buddy. Not like you're going to listen, but you've obviously been brain washed if you genuinely think that. You're probably an Anti-Vaxxer too huh? I'm all for 2A and America is leading that more than any other country. Afghanistan? The taliban are literally forcibly taking everyone's weapons. LOL.

Because laws don’t apply to the most lawless administration ever.

I was more concerned when Trump said he'd take guns and worry about due process later. Not a peep out of conservatives or nationalists.

Though I didn't like the bumpstock, as I find them a novelty vs a Binary trigger, I still wrote in opposition to the ban. What doesn't work for me, works for somebody else. My dad can be considered a "fudd" but even he was against the bumpstock ban. In his words, "this is a slippery slope". Then again he was hoping Franklyn Armory would make a binary for his Mini-14, after seeing the one in my AR pistol in action. Hell, he eve agreed that the binary keeps you on target. Point is, my dad and I and my "fudd" father in law were completely opposed to banning bumpstock. All three of us sent letters to the AFT. We wrote our representatives about it. We were opposed to the entire thing. Sure, I've toyed with a bumpstock, and again, it wasn't for me. I couldn't get it to do squat more than one three round bump, and even then I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn if the flash hider was pressed against the wall. That's a training thing. I've fired full auto, it's faster than bump firing, and faster than a binary or even a forced reset trigger. Again not a fan of a bumpstock, but not against them and fought hard for them.

@@justinharper443 I made noise, my dad made noise, my father in law made noise, but we are but three voices in the sea of millions.

I’ll be honest, I felt that way about bump stocks until some enlightened individual told me the exact same thing. I quickly changed my tune and took up the mantle to enlighten others. You’re absolutely right. Give them an inch……….

@@stagalgiz1097 Same here.

I want a Malayan one myself.

I want one myself

Trigger King

RAWWRR

Hate it, like it, need it, want it- it doesn't matter. It is an item that meets every (already onerous) test that determines it as a legal item. The ATF has gotten too big to fit into its Constitutional britches!

Delivering a solid kick to the side of the box, to cave it in.

Official documents implicate RARE BREED TRIGGERS in grand larceny scheme (Austin, Texas - 11/01/2023) There are multiple lawsuits wherein Rare Breed Triggers has sued competitors over alleged patent infringement issues. One of these cases, a case in the 453rd USDC at Hays County, Texas was presided over by Judge Terri J. Shibbe. Post default judgement proceedings in this case have exposed Rare Breed Triggers in a grand larceny scheme. Post “default” judgment documents filed pro se in the 453rd USDC by the pioneering inventor of Flex Fire, a.k.a. FRT type trigger technology, and core US patent owner Thomas Allen Graves strongly refutes the fundamental validity of Rare Breed Triggers’ alleged rights to produce the Flex Fire - FRT 15 type trigger, and Rare Breed Triggers’ rights to sue others over their alleged patent rights claims. Graves is a Texas Star artist, inventor, engineer, and a well-known firearm designer. Working in Buda, Texas during 2013-2015 Graves produced the G1 Combat carbine. G1 Combat carbine is the first integrated Flex Fire technology type firearm. This is a new species of firearm that uses multiple patented mechanisms and processes of an automatic power reset trigger (Flex Fire Technology), and a 2 stroke, 3 cycle gas damping recoil system (Captive Pulse Damper) among other new technologies. Graves began filing Flex Fire Technology related patents on 9/11/2014. In 2021 Rare Breed Triggers accused Graves of infringement of a 2019 patent claim that Rare Breed Triggers' acquired from Steven Cooper Rounds and Jeffery Cooper Rounds. Steven Cooper Rounds and Jeffery Cooper Rounds combined were party to a previous agreement with Graves. The Rounds made this agreement with Graves for the Rounds to fund Flex Fire Technology patent applications and examinations for Graves’ technology in exchange for the Rounds’ use of exclusive license for AR type firearm applications resultant from those related patents. This agreement was initiated by a term sheet agreement and ultimately a signed licensing agreement in 2018. The general terms of this agreement were to pay Graves 50% after manufacturing cost. Published government documents, and court documents from as recent as October 2023 are convincing evidence that Graves did not infringe Rare Breed Triggers’ acquired patent claim. Rare Breed Trigger’s acquired patent claim is contested by Graves and there are multiple indications that Rare Breed Triggers’ acquired patent claim subject was actually invented by Graves but secretly patented by Jeff Cooper Rounds while the Rounds were working with Graves. It was learned that Rounds’ patent attorney that had worked with Graves and could not file what became the Jeffery Cooper Rounds patent unless it was to be filed for Graves. Independent from the contestable nature of Rare Breed Triggers’ acquired patent, evidence shows that Graves did not use or infringe the Rare Breed Triggers’ acquired patent claim. Rare Breed Triggers’ acquired patent infringement claim against Graves was initiated by naming Graves in a suit against Big Daddy Unlimited. Documents reveal that in fact “all” Flex Fire - FRT type triggers are dependent to, subservient to, and derivative of the Graves core US patent technology Flex Fire Technology portfolio claim or claims that were priority at USPTO as early as 2014. Rare Breed Triggers, although with their lack of standing to bring suit on anyone whosoever, pose to have won multiple cases against Graves. As it stands all cases concerning Graves’ technology or naming Graves averted any trial of merits. As it turns out Rare Breed Triggers lacked standing and could not prevail on merit. Default judgements wherein Rare Breed Triggers sued Big Daddy Unlimited, Big Daddy Unlimited having fully indemnified Graves, and then never appearing in court to answer Rare Breed Triggers’ subsequent, and multiple perjurious complaints that were filed naming Graves in addition to Big Daddy Unlimited, and a Big Daddy Unlimited shell company in one case, and Graves in the other. Prima facie evidence indicates that the specific default judgements naming Graves amount to over $4M. This resulted in one case whereby a Judge erroneously ordered Graves to produce financial information to Rare Breed Triggers based upon their default judgments against Big Daddy Unlimited wherein Rare Breed Triggers maliciously named Graves. In another instance it resulted that Rare Breed Triggers’ demand for Graves to pay for compulsory action legal fees was denied by a Judge. So, the court documents indicate that Big Daddy Unlimited explicitly indemnified Graves within a contract, and that default was taken only by Rare Breed Triggers because Big Daddy Unlimited breached the Graves contract indemnification clause, failing to take any legal action. Big Daddy Unlimited never showed up for court. It can be deduced that Rare Breed Triggers effectively conspired with Big Daddy Unlimited ensuring “no show” default judgements in multiple USDC cases naming Graves. Even if Rare Breed Triggers allegations could have been justified these default judgments are not actually “wins” against Graves as Rare Breed Triggers misrepresents. Graves was fully indemnified by Big Daddy Unlimited beginning in October 2021. This indemnification clause specifically indemnifies Graves from Rare Breed Triggers actions. Extensive court document analysis combined with patent document analysis further confirm that Rare Breed Triggers’ commercialization of Flex Fire - FRT15 type trigger design and other trigger designs had in fact plainly infringed a core patent claim owned by Graves, and that all Flex Fire -FRT type triggers that were produced under these known conditions by anyone’s permission excepting Graves, were in fact without permission, and compensation. Other information found in these documents further indicates that Rare Breed Triggers falsely represented themselves in multiple frauds upon the federal court as the owners or the licensed party of a “Graves - Rounds patent licensing agreement” that remained after 3.5 years unconsummated, was void, a nullity, as if it never happened. Rare Breed Triggers could not resolve this in equity, as what is void does not exist, thus cannot be resolved. Conclusively, by evident conspiracy, and grand larceny Rare Breed Triggers, and others have continuously, and willfully infringed the Graves’ patent claim, as evidenced in known source documents. All indications are that Rare Breed Triggers is the epicenter of a collective felony level conversion of Graves’ assets that are valued at over $100M or up to approximately $500M. Evidence indicates that Rare Breed Triggers and others did not have the requisite standing to sue Graves or to commercialize Flex Fire - FRT 15 type triggers or trigger technology. Evidence indicates that Rare Breed Triggers and others have continuously or willfully engaged in direct infringement of Graves’ core patent claim by commercializing Flex Fire - FRT 15 type triggers or trigger technology. Evidence indicates that Rare Breed Triggers and others’ long-term conspiracy to commit grand larceny including their commercialization of Graves’ assets, has resulted in subversion, and to damage Graves of more than $100M.

They will use millions of our tax dollars to fight a legal battle

ask joe he will know🤣🤣🤣

ATF: uhhhhhh, move the goal post!!!

probably what they did to polymer 80 unlawfully raid their company and illegally obtain customers receipts and personal info

@@georgeownz216 yup its about to get real nasty in the next few years

🤣😁👍

Damn bruh, haven’t ever heard that one. That’s so insane bruh. So spot on cause he’s like so fast. Damn.

For modifying every gun he picks up?

Don't give those thugs any ideas!

😅

You're doing God's work man. I'll be doing the same.

Stop paying the fees to GOA UNTIL THEY RESPOND. Want their attention? Hit them in their wallet. Simple and straightforward! Then evaluate whether GOA is an organization truly worthy of your money. Competition and capitalism. That's America for you.

How are you contacting state officials how do I do this too?

We had cannons. Literal destroy someone's house cannons

Revolutionary colonists actually had superior weapons to that of the British. The Pennsylvania long rifle was more accurate and faster to load than the muskets carried by the British.

Now only terrorists are allowed the same weapons and the US government is giving them to the terrorists for free.

@@InfernosReaper still legal to have cannons

Important history lesson: George Washington led the US Army against American citizens who took issue with new tax laws imposed upon them by the Federal government when he was president, after they felt their voices were no longer being heard and thus the same cycle of taxation without representation they had just fought a war against England for was being perpetrated against them by the new government in America. Lesson: The Federal government, like any tyrannical institution, immediately turned to the same tactics used by its enemies and employed them *against its own people* once it had power. This government is hardly different from the one ruled by kings and queens we so readily abandoned in the interest of personal liberties. Just a thought...

Good luck getting the government to acknowledge it lol. The executive branch has been gaining more and more illegal power, and the courts have been blatantly ignoring it.

@@LeavingGoose046 At the same time, the citizens are getting more and more disgusted, and the swamp is trying to suppress it.

the ATF is part of the swamp that Trump was supposed to drain. The Rino's stabbed him in the back at every corner for the 4 years in office. They could have fixed endless stuff the 1st 2 years and they did nothing.

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I'm with you bro

you need both, but I would make the FRT, or the new WOT trigger (releasing tomorrow) a priority. If we can win this, we may have some hope for getting our constitutional rights back.

Buy the Graves Alamo 15. It's better and more reliable.

Absolutely

They only make that one trigger. I don't think it makes a good primary trigger since I have yet to see anyone that can fire just one round with this trigger. But you can still buy the trigger. Now I would love to have one in a spare lower and I support them in this 100%.

If they win this case I will buy a trigger even if I don't have the rifle it's made for.

Another interview I saw, described that the way it's designed, it is almost impossible to break and accidentally end up with a multi-fire weapon (last year I fired an unmodified .308 that would double and triple tap without any effort whatsoever, as an example). The reasoning was that the locking bar is a solid piece of metal that you would literally have to break with your finger, and because it's forcing a reset every time (hence FRT), it would be impossible to accidentally fire faster than you intended. I'd like to see the design schematic to get a better understanding of that, but the way it was described makes sense.

Need to support them now, they must win!

Ya they are local to me. I will be getting any and all future firearms through them.

It's not clear if Chevron Deference applies to criminal law. However, Rare Breed is filing a civil suit against the ATF.

I mean, that is a very important and timeless issue in constitutional law. But it has nothing to do with Rare Breed, necessarily. Executive Rders touch literally every aspect of governance. In fact, I'm not sure why you think Executive Order comes in at all -- the ATF gave Rare Breed a cease-and-desist order because a product they released is not legal under a decades old LAW. I think you are mistaking a common cease-and-desist order, which literally any judge can order, with an Executive Order, which only the President can order.

Oh shit or Afghanistan firearms transfer 🤯

AFT is another acronym that can mean automatic funds transfer too, so I mess it up sometimes as I deal with AFTs

You Might Be On To Something There!!! They tell us exactly what Thier going to do!!

You can be arrested for they way you accessorize your gun yet our government gave the taliban an airforce and thousands of fully automatic machine guns to oppress the Americans abandoned by our government and military.

We had to give the Taliban those weapons to even the odds. After all the Art of War states that's it's ungentlemanly to use superior firepower, numbers, etc to ones advantage.

War has nothing to do with being gentlemanly.

@@robertsoncustomworks yup

Of course they don't care about what the Taliban has, they're in Afghanistan not America. Our gun laws don't exactly apply to the Taliban.

I was at an outdoor range a couple weeks ago. The looks were interesting to say the least 😂

The agency is a joke and has gone off the rails. I'm sure there's some good employees there, but the leadership is utter feces.

No they're not... Please tell me they're not 😂😂😂

A Democrat judge would sure take that "evidence" seriously. I mean, Rachel Maddow can literally use the word "literally" and a Democrat judge ruled no one could possibly understand her to mean "literally".

..that's a joke right? ...right?

@@katarjin skip to 34:14 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-F8p26GhVkT8.html He's reading a convo between 2 ATF agents, in court docs pertaining to the Rarebreed triggers.

Most of us didn't need long to think it over. They have overstayed their welcome and have become irrelevant and unnecessary at best.

Or ask them if the rifles that the taliban now has do they need to fill out a form 1 or form 4 and jump through all the hoops that owning those rifles comes with the we the American paid for. They got for ( FREE) and to boot , millions of rounds as well.

Selling guns in Mexico?

Terrorists.

@@KurtOnoIR Interesting idea... I wonder if the ATF has an FFL... Doesn't really matter, everyone involved with Gunwalker facilitated straw purchases AND is an accessory to murder, possibly with special circumstances. Hold(er)ing my breath until they get indicted...

One would think that right... yet, here we are. I did not know about the civil vs criminal charges and the merits. That is beyond insane! God, why are we left with these vile, evil people? How have we allowed the ATF to become what they are!? It is now or never people God help us save ourselves.

The"AFT" needs to go!!! It says " shall NOT be infringed"

Chipman has already said as much. He wants NFA stamps for ARs and AKs.

Actually, no the ATF can't just randomly change gun laws. The ATF is not a legislative body. They do not have the authority to make or change law, that prerogative belongs to Congress.

@@ralphm6901 we all know that, and it was implied within my comment. I don’t see the reason for you to try and restate it other than you misunderstanding my comment, or you wanting to feel important. With that being said: although we all know that they don’t have the legal power to change laws and only possess regulatory powers, it hasn’t stoped them from trying. A good example is their flip flopping on the shouldering of arm braces, their attempting to regulate 80% receivers, their many attempts at changing the goal posts numerous times on the definitions of firearms as well as their regulatory powers and duties, and their changing rules on enforcement of their regulations in reference to the NFA. “A wise man speaks because he has something to say. A fool speaks because he has to say something.” -Plato

@@ralphm6901 Neither does the cdc but they extended the eviction moratorium against scotus. So go figure.

Same, I support ANYBODY sticking it to the ATF and anti-2A traitors to America. Might even buy one of these bad boys just for the hell of it.

Yeah! Makes me consider adding something that can use this trigger to my collection. Guess I'm a Fudd since its .22s, revolvers & a dbl- bbl 12ga.

If they win ill order 5 myself

@@seanforsythe78 they are $380

@@andypanda4927 I'd say you could change that and get an ar or an ak but honestly I'd recommend saving your money and waiting

Right because I want one of these triggers now! Lol

They're awesome. It takes some tuning on most ARs, but it's super cool.

They're still available for purchase

With a single action revolver no less.

Not to mention a whole bunch of top competitive shooters.

Jerry is what Chuck Norris carries in his holster.

Sir, you need to register your trigger finger, so we can force a buy back on it later. Lol

Yet Jerry remains so humble. He's a wonderful man.

Pretty sure Jerry shot a rare breed trigger in a video

That sounds fun af

The Sig P320 series already promotes modularity, and may also be another great candidate for a drop in aftermarket FRT. Edit: Obviously the newly announced lawsuit regarding this Sig model might hinder such an idea.

Sounds fun but I almost blew my head off shooting a full auto .45 pistol once. Damn gun ran out of ammo just as it cracked my forehead. Very lucky bastard I am.

@@Badmofojay that would be a bit hard. On that particular gun, the fire control group is the regulated part. Not impossible though. You would be selling firearms, not triggers.

@@jaredourada Right you are on that one. If the tyrannical receiver definition change is adopted, this will certainly impact many other items in a similar fashion.

True but the fact that it should not be banned is what counts, if they banned a keyboard because it allowed someone to type faster would that be ok for them to do?

It’s like making all semi guns illegal because they reset the trigger!!! Makes no sense at all!!!

Sign up for the mailing list and the wait list if you really want to pick one up.

@@hoskinsColin I did. I stock now but they are only excepting crypto....

@@vicdiaz5180 They seem to hop back and forth between crypto and cc

That’s what usually happens. Even if somebody’s not interested in it, if the government tells you you can’t have it, it’s gonna make somebody want it that much more. Just take a look at last year and the amount of new gun owners when everybody knew the Biden administration was coming in. Even a lot of folks on the left bought guns because of all the violence and the politicians on the left encouraging it. You tell people they can’t have something, especially if it’s completely legal like this trigger, and they will want it that much more. It’s a joke what they’re trying to do to rare breed

Irrelevant topic.... only a temporary bump

@@LibertySpam yeah that ammo will still make it in to America through countries like Ukraine

@@LibertySpam Wrong. Its more than that. It setups the ATF with policies to do automatic denial of importation permits of ammo. The language is defined as any ammo manufactured in Russia, or shipped from it. So headstamped ammo from russia can't be shipped from anywhere and make it here. The fact of the matter is this a straight up blockade of affordable ammo, and having the default set to deny this means if its not challenged they can expand it to other nations or even start restricting calibres in general.

@@LibertySpam Wrong, it would be like having an embargo on cheap and affordable phones and computers from China in a time when these modern communication devices were already hard to find in order to make exercising our first amendment right to free speech more difficult.