The Atrocious Gacha Review | Honkai Impact 3rd 

27:39 man, it actually WAS worse. back it times you had to farm different materials for different types of weapons, and must combine three honkai cube parts to full cube

Seeing the growth of Kiana over nearly a decade was absolutely incredible , and got a lot of people invested and attached to her. It's a shame that many games are using a mostly silent/self insert main character nowadays

On the grinding limit. its a thing that was mandatory on most chinese games for a time. and with H3I being so old, its a remnant from old law that was in place.

Honkai impact is one of the games that has a special place is my heart. I still remember the time when I encountered the reburn animation by chance and thought it was a new anime only to then say "wait this is a mobile game?!" And by that point I was hooked into the hoyo hole. I unfortunately had to retire because holy shit this game's inner space has more compressed mass than a black hole!. But it is safe to say that kiana walked so the travelers and trailblazers could run. And man...did she walked good.

john honkai is the one of the best protagonist names of all time, just behind john elden ring tbh

You werent able to get into raids because 3 patches ago those were removed. That mode was multiplayer-only and aside from that it sometimes was kinda jank with desyncs and disconnects and players were split on multiplayer in general, they didn't feel like it was worth to develop multiplayer on the new part 2 engine for an old outdated system. Raids were a big part of the sensei-student system too because you were expected to play together with your sensei/student for bonus rewards and it was also needed for the student to graduate. But now that it's gone, some of the materials or item descriptions, that havent been updated yet, are the few remnants of it.

I like how the "progression" section of the video is the longest, my eyes actually glazed over while you were explaining the various currencies lmao. I tried HI3 for a bit and while it was somewhat fun, the painful resource management, confusing progression, powercreep, and reliance on the gacha for much stronger equipment resulted in me quickly dropping it. It's clearly less streamlined than its competitors like PGR and Aether Gazer, but credit where credit is due, we owe it to HI3 for starting the ARPG gacha genre. Speaking of, I hope you'll consider reviewing Aether Gazer.

- Hi3 is actually 8 year old due to chinese version/server was 1 year ahead of other server. At some point, they speed up and now other server is 1-2 patch(depending on the time) behind chinese server - Flyme2moon was actually a big success, not smash hit like today game but it was a big success compare to the team scale - Honkai Gakuen 1 or Zombiegal was actually a massive flop so mhy gamble everything they have into honkai 2 aka GGZ which thankfully was a smash hit in china saving the company from the brink or bankrupt - Learning from their previous mistake, they quickly develop Hi3 while still early on in GGZ life span. Hi3 was then again a massive hit, it is the game that elevate mhy greatly and it lay all the foundation of success for mhy future in many way, the true MVP to mhy success - HI3 was plan to be GGZ direct sequel, 3rd in the name refer to the 3rd eruption/impact in the story but also the universe 3rd reset (1st and 2nd happen in GGZ) but very early on mhy realize it not a good idea so they turn hi3 into it own game and self contain story, setting itself apart from GGZ - The first herrscher didn't manifest inside a human being, in reality the first herrscher power become a human, he was later name Welt Joyce refer to as Joyce - Joyce later pass on the herrscher power to Joachim who rename himself into Welt Yang, who we call today as Welt - Otto didn't technically form anti Entropy, he was the head of Schicksal, Anti Entropy was formally a branch of Schicksal that was task to research Joyce but after what happen to Joyce and the conflict with Otto, Welt and his friend within that branch separate from Schicksal and form it own organization, becoming Anti Entropy - The battle with Sirin didn't cost the life of both Kiana parent, at the time only Cecilia died while Siegfried gone missing but not dead - You r mixing up Sea of Quanta and Imaginary Tree, each branch of the tree is a different timeline and each leaf is it own universe, the tree it self are hoyoverse while all honkai game r universes within a big branch know as honkaiverse then genshin and other non honkai game of hoyo is somewhere on the tree. Sea of Quanta is what beneath the tree, this is where leaf fall down and everything else from junk to broken fragment of old universe, that why it super chaotic and weird - every 1-2 year the dev will try to streamline the game and early part of it, which result into the current honkai is much more organize than before - The male mc you play in APHO is actually name Adam, this name appear on a file of the game referring to this mc - On Stigmata part, ALL stigmata release since part 2 will be craftable, which is a big deal for hi3 player as it will lower the cost of gacha if they happen to get weapon early or unlucky and missing a piece. it also lower the cost of gacha a char and full gear down to a half compare to before part 2, if previously you need up to 300 pulls for everything then now thanks to change to part 2, you only need 150 pulls total in the worst scenario possible. The banner that you see pity of 50 with 4 item under it is the banner of part 1 stuff - for SP valk, it not an event exclusive valk, you can buy their frag in the asterite shop that reset weekly so it a completely welfare upgradable valk mhy give u and SP valk tend to be a support valk, many of them were meta support of their time - for daily stage, you will only need to clear the stage once and you can quick farm it right outside, when you just enter the menu of daily, there is no need for ticket for this daily quick farm. The reason it costing ticket is becoz you r farming it over the daily limit - i have nothing to defend the amount of material management in hi3 beside the fact that they have streamline it a few time and remove or merging many material lol - the worst value thing you can buy in hi3 imo is the monthly pass or we can call it Welkin, it was so bad that it unironically made buying bp look cheap - Lucky that you try hi3 after part 2 coz the gacha of part 1 will scare the heck out of you hahahaha - Q Manifold is actually not highly compete, most of the time you only need to be able to complete 10 stage and you will atleast not be demoted and stay up so leaderboard is not heavily affected at there. The true endgame mode abyss is superstring dimension that unlock at captain lv80 along with higher difficulty Memorial Arena, this new abyss is one where you will have to compete with other player to stay or promote to next bracket, clearing all stage is not enough you need to be faster than other people atleast fast enough so you don't get demote. - Senti Summer outfit did get rerun like last year or something coz i also gacha for it, a lot of S rank skin in hi3 have already rerun atleast 1, some older one might even be given for free and some A rank will be free or buyable in another way like HoT A rank rgb skin - Hi3 most S rank skin can be gacha with the max of 9k6 xtal, no B chip needed and the quality beat genshin skin by a long shot, even hi3 A rank skin beat all of genshin skin as well - Event in honkai usually contain non canon story or captainverse story which is not tie to main story so technically there is no fomo of missing out any big story in event compare to genshin or hsr. And there r even non story event so they can rerun event very easily in honkai - Many big event in hi3 do have build up and time gate that need you to do it daily so be aware of that and don't wait until the last day to play or you will regret it

Bro I've played this game for almost 4 years now and I just learned TMB in stigmatas meant top middle and bottom😭

when being a mihoyo fan wasn't weird

man honkai impact was my first gacha game back in 2018, those were the days

Honkai Impact 3rd Walked so the rest of Hoyoverse could run.... I'm so glad I got to experience it Beginning to End! (Or at least to Kiana's Storyline conclusion) Also the Story Line theories made by the fandom before we knew as much lore as we do now, WAS INSANE. Dudu's reveal alone had years worth of speculation and I'm still shocked to this day we got a payoff...it was so fun to be part of the community! 21:50 Also I know you just play these for a month, so I'll forgive your mistake here, but they actually do go to 6-star (Pri Arms) once you achieve a high enough captain level.

It's worth mentioning that the upgrade\progression has completely changed a bunch of times during the game's history. To mention some examples: 1)materials for weapons upgrade used to came only from recicling other gacha weapon (now materials are farmable) 2)there used to be no way to farm any S rank valkyrie 3)at a certain point they stopped releasing story levels that require stamina and instead they make smaller "open world" where the story take place and they require no stamina (meaning that stamina is mostly used now for afk farming) 4)stigmata and weapong have become farmable including the sets for new character since part 2 has started. Ancient Honkai was a weird creature.

10:34 without going into too many details, the welt in hsr is the same welt as hi3, despite it being a different universe or whatever it's considered

Your Mandarin pronunciation is uncannily good.

10:40 To clarify this, honkai star rail IS a spin-off sequel but it doesn't take place in a different universe or multiverse, it's the exact same universe as honkai 3rd, it just takes place in different worlds/planets, realistically the astral express from star rail could land in the earth from honkai 3rd one day (which is kinda hinted by Welt if you talk to him in the express)

i've been playing for over 5 years. a lot of these systems are already condensed down a good bit. it used to be way worse. TwT I love this game, it's story, characters and gameplay so much I still play every day. part 2 definitely still needs time to really get good in my personal opinion

A few things I would like to point out that havent been properly adressed and or incorrect. Story: -The universe for Honkai Impact 3 doesn't exist inside the Sea of Quanta, it exists within the Imaginary Tree, they are essentially two mediums for worlds to exist in in this hoyoverse. -Part 1 characters haven't been dropped. minor spoilers, they DO appear in part 2 and will appear more frequently in the future as its focusing on the new cast. Gacha: -Originally units cost 300 pulls to guarantee them being fully built (100 for character, 200 for weapon and stigmata), when part 2 dropped it cost that in half (90 for character, 60 for weapon as stigmata are craftable). Outfits: -There are mainly three kinds of outfits. Freebie outfits, Paid outfits and Gacha outfits. Besides summer outfits, free outfits return periodically via a shop called Homu's Treasury for Asterite, a common material. Paid outfits often return via the same shop as well for B-Chips (paid currency) or after a certain amount of reruns for Special Outfit Coupons (gained through rare events or B-Chips) and they also become permanent after said point usually. Gacha outfits (5* outfits) always appear only via gacha supplies that happen very rarely, the outfit for Fu Hua in the FOMO section is such an outfit, it DID rerun I believe twice, during summer and will rerun next patch as well (this information is known through the CN schedule) There are a few more things that I missed, people make mistakes so its perfectly fine to make them, no hate all love I enjoyed the video

44:20 The data in the wiki is outdated at parts. For outfits these generally always have reruns. The only exceptions are 2 things: Some battle pass outfits, which are just recolors and never actually unique outfits, are just available there. And secondly, there are some 6 year old summer outfits that were banned in china and removed from the game because of a controversy that involved politics. They decided to leave these outfits in the western version of the game because those were only banned in cn, but they chose to still never rerun those again, because cn players tend to get very outraged when players outside of cn get something they don't have. There was a whole different controversy later when the western version got somethign exclusive for an anniversary and things got so bad, that they actively had to take down and remove the anniversary content for the west and compensate the cn players. They made new summer skins for all versions to replace those banned skins and this is also the skins that you saw in the shop for crystals at the moment. So yeah, this had nothing to do with fomo or game design, they couldn't really do anything about it back then.

Just a list of the stuff that are wrong in the video (fortunately they are just easy-to-make misunderstandings): Regarding Stamina: you can use Planeroids in order to farm more. However, the main way to get Planeroids is by failing to log in. Planeroids is a system that allows the player to lose out on less when they miss a few days. Additionally, you can farm Asterite 20 times per week, and you get three quick farms per day. Past that, to quick farm, you do need booster tickers - but note how you don't need to spend any if you just log in every day. Typically, the daily loop is to press the single button to quick farm all the material stages, then go to your dorm and send out valks on expeditions, and then spend any excess Stamina on the open world. You might get excess Stamina on Wednesday, because the open world resets on Monday, Thursday, and Saturday. Additionally, on the gacha: For the gear banners, Part 2 weapon banners have no 50/50, Part 1 weapon banners do. Part 2 stigmata are craftable, Part 1 stigmata often aren't. This, alongside powercreep, is why new players are highly advised to pull on Part 2 banners This includes the starter banner. Also fun fact, HI3 has almost exactly as many pulls per update as Genshin, so yeah, not the best 42:08 I'm not sure about Q-manifold, which is the "beginner" version of Abyss, but in Superstring Dimension, the one for players above Lv80 (btw it's optional to go above lv80, you can choose not to), you gain points when you are the top few, and lose points when you're the bottom few - a ranking system. It's easier to climb out of the lower ranks as you can get more points than usual. I'll also note that Memorial Arena has an easy mode, so you can use outdated characters to farm it to get most, but not all, of the currency it offers 44:19 It did get one rerun. The outfits that don't get rerun are, to my knowledge, some of the early swimsuit skins, which were speculated to no longer rerun as psuedo-censorship. While events do rerun... well... The Captainverse is a series of event stories that are continuations of each other. It has concluded just before Part 2, and it is not known if they will ever be rerun. More annoyingly, if they ever do rerun, Sanguine Nights, the first and most important event in this series, never will. Because it's a permanent story in CN and only in CN

the strongest rivals of today: Wuwa and Genshin vs the strongest rivals of the past: Honkai 3rd and Punishing Gray Raven

"Captain on bridge" man that brings back so many memories playing it

The pity system for the stigmata is the "Wishing Well" button on each equipment banner, which lets you turn in dupes in exchange for the stigmata you're missing. The equipment banner in Honkai Impact is the most frustrating part of it overall though, imo. Many characters feel functionally incomplete without their signature weapon since a skill is tied to each one, making the equipment banner essentially mandatory. Genshin massively improved on this, and Star Rail made it basically perfect imo. But back in 2016 all Gachas were shit, basically, so compared to its launch peers HI3 was massively better at least, and I understand why they have all the monetization considering how deeply they had to go into the hole to develop this insanely ambitious project for the time, and why they've stepped back from that with their later games because they're less insecure. edit: learning from the other comments that my complaint about the equipment gacha has been at least partially addressed by Part 2. Huh. I stopped playing at the end of Part 1, I was in it for the story, very satisfied with that story and its ending, and moved on to Star Rail after. Though I am sometimes tempted to come back.

Hi3 is a mess of endless menus and farm, but when you get customed to it the gameplay is amazing (under all the epilepsy party). I used to play until a few years ago and then made a new acc when part 2 launched, it's still a breath of fresh air

I'll be honest, Honkai Impact is primarily a story game, and the story itself beats everything HoYo has ever done up to this day, except for GGZ, but GGZ is 2D and isn't accessible on Global anymore. And the animations we used to get in Part 1 of HI3 were simply superb, rivaling top-tier anime studios like Ufotable in terms of quality. The story is the best thing about Honkai Impact, and if anything, play the story. Besides, completing Part 1 will give you an amount of crystals sufficient to get at least one full team with full gear. So you can have some fun in end-game GMs if you want to.

SP characters originally were all captainverse characters or from other gamemodes like open world, but towards the end of part 1 they just gave this to every new A-rank character, that they released. Before part 2, they usually alternated between a patch with a new 4-star character, everyone get farm for free from the get go with no gacha required, and a new Srank character you needed to gacha for. Was pretty generous as you had basicly 2 whole patches worth of time to save up for a new gacha character. Part 2 changed this to releasing a new Srank gacha char every patch, but in exchange they made most of the gear craftable and way easier to obtain.

Nice seeing sameone giving it honest reviev and not judging on first 6 story chapters from 2016

Now I'm waiting for you to do a PGR review

Part 2 doesn't have 0 relations to part 1. We got a story at the end of part 1, where the new part 2 characters trained under the part 1 characters and occasionally part 1chars will keep appearing in part 2, like Ai-chan, Susannah or Vita already did. We already got a new Theresa design for part 2, too.

Holy shit marinfold look so different compared to few years ago. They changed like a hundred thing now meanwhile the late game abyss for 81-85 still the same

bit of lore stuff Anti Enthropy (AE) was not created by Otto, it was by Welt and Kiana's dad didnt die fighting sirin the 2nd herrcher

The progression is what killed this one for me. When I realized it was going to take me months upon months to build a single character that would be outclassed by the time they were finished was a huge bummer. Cool story and gameplay but the time sink was too high for me.

This video was a treat to see as a long time captain. I am so sorry for the amount of nonsense currencies that we have and glad that you can at least enjoy the story.

i still remember picking the game up last year just looking to enjoy a cool story and see what the game has to offer... now it's been so long and this game has made me cry so many times, it's very close to my heart :')

lmaoo as a veteran hi3 player, listening to that whole materials/resources section really made me realize how fucking insane and confusing this must all be to newbie players im so sorry yall 💀😭

As someone who started playing in like 2018 in the SEA server and went from f2p to light spender to occasional whale back to f2p now… i really hateeee how the late game modes are designed to accomodate powercreep and when combined with how expensive newer characters are… its really reallyyyy predatory… its crucial to note that obviously the meta only applies to competitive players and back when i was one i used to retain in nirvana rank (the highest rank for abyss) i had full geared S0 valks and i had to WHALE for them just because they are soo fucking expensive costing me around 200 sgd every new S rank in TOPUPS alongside dailies and the monthly pass and the battle pass that i used to fully keep up with… yet the skill expression gradually died and now the meta has become soo much more cut throat where ranks are the only thing that give you an edge over other players umm in hsr terms imagine an e0 character being able to do better than an e2 character because the e0 player spent time speed tuning and optimising rotations etc? Yeah that really no longer exists in late game honkai impact… we used to mix and match stigmata to make alternate builds and i can forgive that characters need their signature weapons bc rmb weapons have a 4 star rarity by default unlike genshin weapons and hsr light cones… but omfg now u need both weapon and the full stigmata set for a character to excel especially in part 2… (although some modern characters can function wuthiut their stigmata lunar vow i love you but im never getting your stigmata lol) i think the cutthroat yet expensive nature of the meta started during the release of the herrscher trio and its really only gotten worse in part 2 omfg as someone who LOVESSS honkai impact part 1 to death i really have no objections to part 2 characters and the lore bc i think change is good (like elysian realm was soo hated on when first released and now everyone loves elysia) BUT THEY literally cannot get away with how predatory they have become …. Back to back limited S ranks 4 patches in a row?? Yeah they have never been so blatant about their greed…. In part 1 new s rank patches would be separated by patches with only new SP or A ranks or a farmable S rank to reduce the pressure on the crystal economy but omfg they have iust gone so fucking crazy in part 2… and the astral op system is soo fucking crazy also because its a system where you NEED to pull for teams to flow well if not there will be huge problems in the rotation… what the fuck mihoyo?? And yeah around after the time i got the herrscher trio i stopped spending money on this game… i do come back to play it every few days to play abyss because i truly love the combat and gameplay but i cannot afford to continue being a competitive player and i refuse to let them get away with this like i will not contribute to its normalisation… if you are a new player wanting to get into honkai impact pls dont go into competitive play…. Just stay casual dont get sucked into the rabbithole…. And if you need a strong team just get senadina from part 2 she has a fully functional team with 2 other part 2 A ranks ok and then use ur other cyrstals for whoever the fuck you want dont let mihoyo bait you with the thrill of compeitive play the cost is not worth it …

In regards to FOMO, there's the Promare collab costumes you can't buy anymore, the Evangelion collab costumes you can't buy anymore and the entire character Asuka and her accompanying weapon and stigmata you also can't get anymore (They made brandless options in case you pulled Asuka during the EVA collab but didn't get her equipment)

Ah yes honkai impact 3rd my beloved it, dropped it after playing for 3 years straight, after part 1 ended i had no interest to continue playing, yet it's one of the best experiences i've had playing a gacha game, it's the only gacha game that made me care about the story and characters and had me shedding real tears at the things that happen in the story (i still have goosebumps thinking about some of the cutscenes), the game may have some flaws like a terrible gacha system and issues with how they present the story, but the combat and the great characters more than make up for it, it's a really underrated game that deserves a lot more attention.

listening to listing out the materials made me think on how the hell did I manage to understand them in 2020??

I played Honkai Impact 3rd for 6 years, I loved the game but the fomo of each patch was killing me, as someone who each day has less time in his hands it is really hard to keep up with all the content of Honkai 3rd and the farming, so I took advantage that the OG story ended to left the game, I was a hardcore player with all the S rank valkiries and their gear to the last S rank Fu Hua from the 1.5 chapter, but I can't keep up with the game anymore too much shit to do, too much Fomo, I have played Elden Ring since then and my main ER character is a Kiana cosplay with an arcane build, in that regard she look more like Alpha from PGR but whatever :P

The gacha system of this game is ATROCIOUS but i would like to calrify that the real late game starts after reaching level 80 since the memorial arena and abyss kinda get changed and it becomes harder but in return it gives way more crystals and warshop materials. For example if you clear Redlotus in abyss you get 500 crystals every clear no matter what spot you get aslong you dont get demoted so you can get 1k crystals every week so if you combine the elysian realm and that you can get 6k crystals a month id say. You do need atleast 1 meta team to do that though which does require investment that is why this game is so punishing but i was able to get it after 3 months of playing this game so it is doable id say

John Honkai is up there with Thomas Ladder.

0:02 AVENTURINE APPEARANCE also fun fact! they used miku for a few songs :D

It's crazy seeing how far this game has come just from how the characters played. Like you went from Kiana doing simple 1-2 combos, to straight up air combos and gimmicks that completely change how you play the game.

As a once avid fan of hoyo, I've played HI3, Genshin and HSR on day 1, and oddly enough HI3 is the one game I've never had any major issues as a long-term player, it has good endgame content with the abyss, elysian realm and abyss, with events that 'borrow' gameplay loops of other popular games such as plants vs zombies, stardew valley and even clash royal just to name a few. Genshin we all already know is awful in terms of actual content to keep old players engaged, and even HSR feels quite miserable during filler patches, but if I were to recommend any of their games to new players, HI3 will forever sit at the bottom of the list for new player experience, yet I can see myself playing HI3 daily until its shutdown.

I've been playing HI3rd for about a year almost everyday and I completely agree it's 7/10. However, this game has one, humongous problem - it's extremely addicting. This game gives you a lot of free stuff and MiHoYo makes it, to keep you in front of monitor the longest they can. I'm playing it almost everyday not 'cause I want to, I'm just afraid to miss rewards for even single day. In previous patch, I've been scared that I won't make it in time and I'll miss free Herrscher of Origin (I'm F2P, didn't spend a cent on this game), what would be huge loss for me. Just for one week of playing middle-level endgame content + any event, I get around 2000 crystals. Missing it, I'm loosing almost entire 10 pull. In any different gacha game, like: WuWa, Genshin, Star Rail, etc. I never was that afraid of loosing daily, than in HI3rd, what shows how evil are these mechanichs here.

Oh how much i love HI3, No matter what it will always have a special place in my heart BUT it still came from an small Studio and DOES show its age heavily

44:45 Open world modes or elysian realm were never event-only. They were always designed to be permanent game modes. We just got some bonus rewards for when they launched, but they always do this with main story and other new content too.

Cant wait for the ZZZ Gacha review

The game parry system is very similar to Bayonetta's "which time". I think it was a big inspiration to the gameplay and game overall

Regarding the death situation, it's at least not like the game never did anything with her after that. You couldn't expierence it because it was entirely though a 6-year long series of event stories, but there was a captainverse alternate universe, which is a whole other rabbit hole to go into. It is basicly a connected story told in a non-linear way, where you as the captain are an actual active character (unlike the main story) and you are diving into different alternate worlds. Through this they could use characters that have died in new ways or release new imaginations of characters as new playable characters, even when the mainstory currently didn't feature a notable new character. Captainverse was truly a wild ride. There was one in particular, featuring Kongming (an alternative version of theresa), that actually made me cry. It was more tragic and had so much more deaths than the main story ever had. They put alot of effort into developing the captainverse and it had a huge climax and after story between the end of part 1 and the start of part 2. I remember when Genshin released, they kept rerunning most of the older captainverse event stories, so all the new players could properly get into it. It's kinda sad that all this content now is only available through story recordings online.

I recently quit after almost 1800 login days.. part 2 just wasnt it for me especially after the disaster that was "part 1.5" Still have very fond memories of the game tho, it was a part of my life for a very long time

its a shame that in 2024 such a small percentage of western hoyo fans have experienced this story. i almost feel like theres a stigma and some people event resent it for all the callbacks it gets accross their other titles

Best I recall, I think the elysian realm roguelike mode was the first of its kind to end up in a gacha game, it was definitely the first of the hoyo games, but afaik roguelike modes started showing up in other gachas after elysian realm did it. Also the focus supplies are the old part 1 system, while the equipment supply is the new part 2 system. part 2 stigmatas can be crafted, and the crafting material can be obtained by salvaging extra part 2 stigmata you dont need, at a rate of 2 salvaged stigmata -> 1 crafted stigmata.

The madlad actually rattled off (accurately) ALL the currencies in Hi3. Da Wei should give you like a scholarship prize or something. Hi3 is like that slightly hipster cafe with long history whose staff are so snooty that they'd rather you don't throw your cash at them because the amount you were prepared to shell out is too pathetic for their image. The crystal economy is also front loaded in that it's pretty easy to farm a few (Almost 10-ish, which is halfway to the pity, if you'd recall) thousand crystals upon return after a hiatus but once you run out, you might as well take another hiatus unless you really, REALLY like the Elysian Realm (Which is valid because I used to play it just for fun). I wish they would at least adjust their pricing scheme closer to their later games (which already isn't affordable in my book). The time frames you are looking at with this game is measured in months or weeks in order to farm up a single character at level cap unless you super-whale. This alone puts it in a strange af niche because the game simply won't let you indulge your instant gratification. Like a stern parent.

13:02 Correction: There is a relation. In fact, they spoil the ending of Part 1. If reading this after the temporary rewards for playing Part 2 story goes away, I would heavily recommend not reading Part 2 until you've finished Part 1. Part 2 is also disliked for its excessive jargon that it only exacerbated by not reading Part 1 first, though it does get better.

Personally my favorite of the 4 miHoYo games I've played, the lore got me to try HSR, but I ended up bouncing off(of Hi3) due to the immense amount of content to catch up on as a new player. I only barely touched it on launch, but that first level running on my phone definitely left an impression on me.

Hi, veteran player here (since 2018, just got my 2100 login days check lmao) 1st of all, pretty good review, it was pretty on point most of the time. I still want to add my piece 1st of all : you confused between Sea of Quanta & Imaginary Tree. It's traveling between branches of the IT that we can go to another world of the Honkaiverse, not SoQ Now about gacha... it was way worse before. It was 100 pull guarantee (still 100%) not 90 and the gear supply was the same as the focused supply you explained, it was hard xD With part 2 we gained 10 pull less for character guarantee and for part 2 gear supply, the guarantee only applies for weapon, so we went from 300 max max pulls to 150 (and the 1st character multi is 50% cheaper). Now, at the start of a new version, we get one free stigmata of the version character and all stigmatas of part 2 characters are farmable, only the weapon is gacha only (even if crafting one stigmata can be costly). B-chips... yeah worst thing ever, they don't even have the (get more by paying more, whatever the pack you buy, it's still 1:1 ratio). And yeah, even crystals are expensive. Most games have an average 30$ the multi and give 5-6 rolls with the highest priced pack (100$-120$). Honkai, with the same price, we get 5 rolls and 2.5 multis. It's too much... Now about the income, it depend of much you play and how well you perform but with many weekly (or bi-weekly) rotating game mode, you can stack a lot pretty fast, even as an early player. As a veteran player, I get effortlessly 1650 crystals with ER, Abysse & MA. But yeah, the powercreep is real, and it's been non stop since the early days. But it's not as bad as it seems. The powercreep mostly come with abyss weather & MA bosses, giving advantage to a valk or type they want, making people wanting to roll the last valk. Supports character are really powerful when full gear and can make lot of old DPS character shine, even compete with latest DPSs. And for lantern case per exemple, she powercreep HoF Kiana who came in 5.0, and we're in 7.5, Thelema (7.4) powercreep Bronya HoR (3.3) and those old character are still usable and powerful Sry it's a bit long haha

I gave up on HI3 when part 2 dropped, I just couldn't get into the story anymore and powercreep was really annoying for doing weeklies/half-weeklies. I have over 1.8k logins into the game and I don't think I'll comeback to this game anytime soon (also this game required over 30GB of space on my phone and my phone has only 128GB :/ (I play other games and HI3 was taking a lot of space))

I am a medium weeb. I consume a lot of anime content, but I am picky and usually do look for consistency and depth in writing. Ironically, as much as many might disagree, I found a lot of the game's plot to be built on sand, not really solidifying the tempo of the story, and it felt like they kept chucking story beats at the wall to see what sticks. The plot became too wrapped up in its own terminology, bound with sub par localisation, it often felt like it was almost there, but not quite. And yet, I kept playing the game. Hearing the main theme is easily one of the best and nost nostalgic feelings contained in one tune. Seeing Kiana depart on the train and witnessing the culmination of years of development in the trio aacending was truly emotional and I will likely never forget how it felt. They did something really impressive and it can only be seen after you trudge through some sludge, but it's absolutely worth it. I was excited for part 2, however I found the story to be facing the issues that bothered me the most about the game in the first place, and dropped it. It really feels like the game ended when Kiana boarded the train.

This was a great review! HI3 is one of my favorite games, so I'm really happy to hear you interested in more of the story. You're in for a treat.

good review agree with most stuff. I no longer play this game much after completing part 1 story. I am now trying other mihoyo games

8:36 Otto did not make Anti Entropy, it was the United states branch

Mihoyo has some interesting plans in play for their next games: - a farming game they proto-tested as the 'Captain's Ranch Tale' event in _HI3_ and; - an open world MMORPG they've started to hire for. People really liked 'Captain's Ranch Tale.' I just wonder how they could monetize that. Not like they can make it yet another gacha. Right? As for the MMORPG, it would seem that _Tower of Fantasy_ was just a little ahead of its time to compete with Mihoyo's entry. Oh well.

someone, especially you Psychie, talking about gacha games, their history, mechanics etc. just tingles something in my brain. Am I autistic? Amazing video as always.

The Hua outfit has actually had reruns, the wiki information for a lot of the game is just outdated or outright wrong. It reran around last fall, and is getting another rerun in the next patch again

bro i spit out water the moment you show the entire bakery and THAT infamous 'line' at 22:13. Such a gigachad.

I feel so nostalgic, great and partial review as always. Keep it up. o7

this is such a nostalgia, my first job, my first paycheck. I bought a decent phone compared to my potato that can only play toram and fgo. I saw my guildmate in my mmo play this and i tried to install, instantly blew up by the fact you can play 3d action game in a freakin phone. Not to mention all the otaku stuff and reference make it clear this is the game for my KIND. In facebook the group discussion usually goes around the lore, the waifu praise, and gacha salt. Nobody's complained about no representation, nobody's complained about ship wars. Constant fanservice post and nobody's cried about character being too sexy

the thumbnail still as awesome as ever

Applause to you for reviewing this game, its not easy to review old games like this since the game has live for so long there has been a bunch of change and "improvement" that at the time look like a good thing but now you look back at it and start thinking "yeah that was dumb" Even for day 1 player, they will still get overwhelmed by the amount of currency this game has, left alone new player, and the worst part this is AFTER they remove like 10+ other currency back in the day (yeah it was worst). But again, at that time, it was very common for gacha game to do this, its just so happen that HI3rd get it worst because they keep making new game mode every 6 or 8 months, each comes with their own currency, which result on how much "checklist" you need to do nowaday This is actually quite common on other old games, like azure lane, arknight, etc, but the thing is HI3rd is just so ambitious that they make a new mode twice as much as other (not to mention the game has gone through 2 full overhauls, each comes with huge change to the whole item economy) and while other game try to simplified it, HI3rd just keep doing it till today Another thing that might surprise you when you review older game is that how bad they price their "value pack" and gems. Again back then the whole concept of these kind of gacha game were not exist yet, so they literally did a shot in the dark with the price, and the bad part? Once you have set the price, you can't change it. Think about it, lets say back then 10 pull cost you 40 dollars, what would happen if you later on change it to 30 dollars and make better value pack? People will not like it, the result..... Battle pass..... Yes, those predatory monetization that they make exist because they have no other way on making better value pack, hell they even try to make something called "B Chips", which is like the same as gems but can only be used on different shop, think about it, a gacha with 2 PAID CURRENCY. Obviously like you said what they did is bad regardless of the circumstances, so just think of it like a fun fact. And if you wondered what would happen if they never make a new pack? Look no further than fgo..... 9 years for JP, 7 year for NA. Ever since the game release never make new pack whatsoever, never change their pricing, and the only thing you can bought in the game is literally just raw SQ (gem) as is, no material, no bs, just pure gems. The economic of the game? There are no daily mission, only weekly, what you get from weekly mission? 3 SQ..... Oh btw 3 sq is 1 pull.... Login bonus? Sure they have that, if you keep login consecutively you can get additional 4 sq + 1 summon tickets. For a whopping total of 7 sq + 1 tix each week (basically 3 pulls + 1sq leftover). Pity is 900 sq btw and reset every banner (pity also only apply to 1st copy, if you want dupes you need to go in with no protection) And the best part? You miss a single day and these login reset back to day 1, so you need to make sure to keep login every day, thats not the end, lets say they celebrate something like a new anime or big event with special login campaign, if you ever lost a single day of login, THE ENTIRE CAMPAIGN IS GONE, so in that game you only really had 1 job and 1 job only, never miss a login (this is why when they have that 24 hours maintenance incident it became a huge deal in the community). Im not trying to defend HI3rd here, i just want to warn you how much a wild west these old gacha games can get Now that i think about it, FGO and HI3rd is like the exact opposite in term of how the game progress. While HI3rd keep making brand new game mode and introduce new system that overload the game every year, FGO did..... Literally nothing. The amount of QoL and gameplay update in that game is very minimal, in fact the very first gameplay update in fgo happen in 3rd year anniversary (command code) and then 6th year anniversary (append skill) and then 7th year (Mighty chain ) and 8th year (class skill tree). You can tell they start making change nowaday, but it still hilarious how both side went to completely different route to the extreme which result on both game biggest flaw

Underrated channel, subscribed for sure! (Quality content and i can clearly see the work and effort put out, and the personal jokes and thoughts that i find refreshing while watching!)

I was waiting for this and first of all I want to mention that it is a really nice review, like you can see that you went pretty deep into the history and looked up many things to make it comprehensive. But I just wished you would've gotten in touch with someone who plays this for a long time (I think I also offered to review the script in the comments under a different video like a month ago), because there are some things that are wrong or you seem to have misunderstood (I dont blame you, the game can be really confusing, especially with the resource and banner systems). Also I would've loved to give some insights into the endgame, because Q-Manifold is not the endgame mode. It is just for levels 1-80 to have a mode, where you can scale your progression against, like see how you well you are building your characters and stuff. For levels 81+ the mode gets permanently replaced by something different called Superstring Dimension, which has only 4 stages. Btw. those modes are not 3 times per week, it is just twice. Also I think it should be important to note that unlike Hoyo's later games, the difficulty of both Q-Manifold and Superstring Dimension adjust towards your previous clearing times. So if it was too easy for you, it will be harder next time. And if your gear or your skill isnt there yet, it puts you into an easier tier. With this system, you can work on your builds and your skills on your own pace without the bad feeling of failing to clear the content every cycle.

YES, Ive been waiting for this

Fun fact The reason why the starting chapters were kinda funky when compared to the manga was because they were debating whether they want to keep a similar storyline as GGZ or continue as a different tale Fair to say, it went similarly and ended differently Also, SD isn’t a part 2 thing. It’s a part 1.5 or after part one but still not far off the finality and origin arc Also, the material system rant was both funny and… a pain… I remember getting into the game like 6 months ago and… man I was lost

Thank once again for the review, Man this is a game that for a reason or another it just didn't click with me but always curious to came back, and the story of MiHoYo is very interesting and inspiring.

Otto wasnt in Anti entropy. He was an oversear of schicksal It didnt cost life of both of her parents (2000 herrscher of the void) Chinese version is one month ahead. Not patch. 21:11 Depends... if you mean the characters right now it is true however sometimes there are released S rank characters that are farmable and any A rank is farmable however they might have stopped releasing A rank characters. About the battlepass... I have played this game for 4,5 years and never thought anything bad about battlepass, never was tempted to buy it but Im 100% free to play in all games so maybe its because of that but in my opinion its mostly bcs I can get all important stuff free to play. Btw the currency system has been simplified a lot... There used to be many more currencies and I loved it however they fused multiple into one. 32:28 WHAT? As a 100% free to play Im pulling every new character with full gear. And im not being lucky. You get over 22000+ crystals each patch. Just from superstring dimension 1040 crystals every week elysian realm another 500 and so many more in small doses in other events, dailies and modes. 33:25 You get so many stigmatas + they are craftable and you get a box each update with a new free stigmata to choose. Theres like 14% chancce for stigmata. I have never pulled a weapon in part 2 and not having all of 3 stigmatas since we only need to get 2 different stigmatas and 3rd is from the free box. 34:50 Its really not bad... Since every 10 pull is top tier gear... Imagine if you were getting 5* weapon every 10 pulls guaranteed in genshin impact. Would that be not worth pulling there? In part 1 I used to skip one banner to get the upcoming character fully geared so it really wasnt that bad. + this part 1 banner was undoubtly the most fun banner to pull on. Every stigmata and weapon sign was so exciting :D Im a bit sad its not in part 2 but atleast in part 2 I get to pull every new character with full gear. 35:17 The beginner banner is not worth. You dont know exactly what character youll get and its not the newest character and there is a constant powercreep in Honkai impact 3rd. Its not like one year old battlesuit would be unusable. Even 2+ years old battlesuits are best on certain stages but they will be powercrept sooner and dont have as much dmg as the newest. (For some people it might sound confusing that the newer characters are stronger but didnt powercreep them... Many characters even 3 years old are really well usable since there is so many specifics to the battlesuit which might be really great for different bosses. For example, you have newest fire bio dps which can attack pretty fast and 2 years old fire psy dps which can apply ignite and you have a boss which is is mech fire vulnerable and has a shield that can be destroyed by ignite. The 2 year old battlesuit will be much better bcs of countering type Psy>Mech and the fact that it can apply ignite to destroy boss shield. Different boss might have a shield that is destroyed after 100 hits and obviously youll want a battlesuit with really fast attacks to achieve score as highest as you can.) In memorial arena you dont move in bracket. You are just compared with all of other players of the similar level for example 81-88 and based on your ranking you get the rewards however you dont move in bracket. Overall I really liked your video and for a 30 days only player you know quite a lot. The only thing Ill really disagree with is the gacha and F2P friendliness. As I have already mentioned Im 100% free to play player and I can get every new battlesuit fully geared free to play and be in the Nirvana (Top rank of Superstring dimension - abyss like mode). I am sad that you gave this only 7/10 - the same score for for example tower of fantasy but I believe your opinion will change to better the more you play and the more you get into the amazing story since Honkai Impact 3rd is the best gacha game in my opinion for endgame players.

Welt Yang from Honkai Star Rail is literally the same guy, the 1st Herrscher, from Honkai Impact. 15:00 Never let her go... :(

I will always be annoying when it comes to Kiana Kaslana because she’s the best character Mihoyo ever made.

I started as well recently in 2024, and i have to say im in love with the game. For my reason, its a breath of fresh air and it has a new gameplay style that ive never played. From a standpoint like yours in this video, i personally would rate Honkai Impact 3rd a measly 5/10. Characters rely on their sgnature gear, and the lower grade gears have near none impact on valkyrie performance, somewhat similair to stigmata, newer gears are tailor made for specific characters lowering the usability of those pieces, and with AGAIN, the lower grade stigmatas have insignificant impact on important valkyries, including support valkyries. The resource management with Honkai Shards, phase shifters and other materials is ludicrous, unless you mapped out every single thing, you're either going to be short of these materials, or time locked away from these materials if you've already expended some of your materials on other valkyries. Certain banners like the begginer banner is actually very bad in 7.5, sporting Herrscher of Rebirth/Flamescion, these valkyries are very useful in later content, but they are mandatory to have their full gear and a specific team to perform at a reasonable level. And with crystals being relatively "sparse" or you could say not easily recoverable makes all the more those valkyries quite terrible for begginers, as building teams for those valkyries is unbelievablely expensive. The saving grace about the combat is that the tutorial is really useful and it allows you to practice with your own tempo. Bosses and enemies dont have such a huge spike in difficulty, and valkyries arent inherently hard to understand/use in combat. Thats what I would personally like to add on.

The hate towards part 2 isn’t because it’s generally bad. It’s because the hate Is from a bunch of OG players who are mad to see their favorite game change. Imagine you’ve been playing a game for over 7 YEARS! and it has literally become a chapter of your life, and you got to see the characters grow up as you grew up yourself. And then the company starts changing multiple parts of the game, and putting a bunch of characters you know nothing about in. We as humans don’t like change, and will usually have a bias to what we used to do. Example, how every generation hates the one that comes after it. So those players just hate the fact the game changed, not part 2 itself.

A game that gatekeeps itself, truly 10/10 for me

38:48 This doesn't make sense to me. Give it a "below expectations" if you really think its that predatory and convoluted.

This is an honest question to those who play these gacha games. No shilling. No grifting. No beef. I'm not being rhetorical this is an honest to god question from a place of deep curiosity. Why do you play this and how do you enjoy it? I've tried them, a huge amount of them, trying to find the joy. HSR, HI3rd, Genshin, PGR, Brave Exvius, FFMobius, FEH, Dragalia, SinOAlice, Nier:Reincarnation. I would have played Granblue if it wasn't so annoying to emulate at the time and Arknights just looks intimidating. My main takeaway every time is, that all of the potential is squandered by it's free to play model. It constantly grinds at my FOMO with exclusive banners that only appear every few months to a year with few if any ways of actually getting the characters you want, and even after that you are also at the mercy of rng to make them usable due to limit break/awakening mechanics that require multiple dupes or expensive materials to unlock at uncertain rates. And that's when the gameplay is fun. Other times, I just find myself button mashing mindlessly until the game suddenly decides I'm not strong enough to progress so I have to just, grind more. Stages are glorified stat checks. I have yet to find a single one of these where I didn't think "Yeah, this game would be a thousand times better if it was just a single 60 dollar purchase with DLC" That is all MY opinion of course, which brings me back to the question, what do the common audience for these games, the ones who come back every month to grind away, find enjoyable of them? Even in the reviews most if not all of them clarify that, yes, you can get by as F2P, but 90% of the experience will be endless grinding for 30 different resources and currencies until, at some point many years down the line you might actually reach endgame, in which you'll be thoroughly outclassed by whales anyway. Anyway, I've yapped enough, if I got something wrong feel free to correct down there, I really just wanna know.

I remember trying Honkai Impact three times over the years and each time I was never able to get past the beginning for the same reasons: - Confusing and unintuitive interface - So many different types of currencies that I didn't even know what to farm - Mediocre Story and Gameplay for the entire first part of the game (I understand that it gets better later but I need some part of the game to be decent right away to make me want to continue) - Almost all the playable characters are just variations of the same 4 characters Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the game is bad but the experience for new players is HORRIBLE and it's no wonder they had to revamp everything from scratch with Honkai Impact 2

Cant wait to see you get to the end of the story. This story was probably my favorite one out of all the gacha games I played T_T

This series is really cool, honestly I personally want to see one of these videos for Arknights, a really interesting tower defence which probably won’t happen but one can only dream

Finally Psy review the og game😂😭

Welcome, Pseychie to the Heartbreaking world that is Whatever the Hell Kiana Kaslana ends up involved in, have fun!

2:16 "Fly me to the Moon" sure can be an Eva reference but its basal referential material is from musician and vocalist Frank Sinatra's song: "Fly Me to the Moon".

solid review and I agree with a lot of the points. i'd be pretty interested to see you cover PGR if you decide to do so in the future, imo they are seen as quite similar to outsiders it would be cool to hear what you think after playing

For people that are just story and lore enjoyers that want to know about honkaiverse, maybe after playing HSR, the game is worth trying to play story only modes. After playing HSR, Genshin and other gachas, Hi3’s gameplay and systems are really unappealing that i refused to interact with anything excluding important story, good thing that it doesn’t require built characters. So, if you really value interesting, convoluted and dramatic anime story or you’ve played hsr and now you want answers to some lore questions and origins of that universe you should consider trying it.

I really liked this review and think that you were completely fair on a few points, one of them being the many resources that exist in HI3 (Trust me, this has been a complaint within the community for a long time, and it actually used to be worse). However, some things I'd like to note: 1. In terms of character progression, there are a few characters that you pointed out with the SP marking. All of those characters are free and are able to be bought from the shops using in game currency, and for those who play the game regularly, it is very easy to get a multitude of good free characters, and upgrade them to higher ranks. Although this isn't able to keep up perfectly with the powercreep, it is a very easy way for new players to get access to pretty decent characters, some of whom are actually used in team comps today 2. I agree on your point that the rate you get pulls is fair, however, it's also worth noting that in general, it does not take as many pulls to get an S rank and their weapon and stigmatas than you would expect. Unless you are truly unlucky, pulling is fine. It's also very easy to look ahead in terms of banners, as there are many resources out there where you can find future banners for global servers, as CN is ahead of the global servers by a fair bit. As such, you can easily find info on future characters and plan your pulls accordingly. Also for duplicate stigmatas, if you have 1T, 3M, 0B, unless it was changed, you are able to combine two stigmatas of the same name into a different stigmata type (T, M, B) using the forge. That way if you got something like the example above, you can combine 2Ms and change them into a B, granting you a full set. 3. Yeah many of the monetization systems are very predatory, thankfully there are resources out there that can help a player do more cost effective spending, one of them being in the HI3 discord server. 4. In terms of late game content, I really hoped you would have done a little more digging, as the true endgame is actually quite fun. In the memorial arena, the higher bracket you are and the higher level the boss is, the boss will get more complicated and way more interesting to fight. Looking at your footage you were still very early game, which means you would have missed out on the more interesting fights, which, as you pointed out, is not very unavoidable. 5. For the story section, for the one month you gave yourself, I hoped that you would have been further in the story, as with its current 40+ chapters, you're still pretty early in the story, which I won't hold against you as there are a lot of things in this game and you weren't solely focusing on the story. You mentioned at the end that you might play through the HI3 story casually, and I highly recommend you do so, as you've barely scratched the surface on how rich the story is. I kind of hope that you'll do a review of HI3 again later on, after you've gotten more experience with the story and a bit more with the mechanics, as the new player experience is definitely an overload.

Honkai Impact 3rd was the mobile game that changed my perception of mobile gaming. At the time (2018) there was nothing close to honkai impact 3rd. Edit: Captainverse not mentioned sadge.

Fun fact (someone correct me if I'm wrong though): HI3 holds the record for having the highest viewed video for a gacha game in Will of the Herrscher, surpassing even Genshin's highest viewed videos

This is the closest to perfection MiHoyo has ever come to. And to be real, it's only getting more bland and boring (worse is debatable) from here on.

HI3 YES! Otto Apocalypse the best antagonist in this series imo. Best character tbh.

Thanks for your content Btw It's actually many things you haven't experience: -endgame content. What you see is just content for player 1-80. At lv 81-88, we have rank for EX. EX Abyss and EX Memory Area actually interesting for me -story: what you see is just story wrote at 2015-2018 when Mihoyo bad at writing. You haven't follow all Kiana's growth(1-31), it pretty hype at chapter 25. You haven't try 1.5 story, when hoyoverse update boss quality and many(Vita boss battle and Sa boss battle is such a god feeling style). P2 is growing much, new chapter bring me an Indescribable feeling.

Good review from my experience! As for some other details: Farming in this game is such a deep rabbit hole that i just only stick to the stuff for weapons, stigmata, dorm and war treasury. The part 2 farming stuff is fairly simple its just genshin artifacts with some flowers being exp bottles for them and the red crystal being money for buying in part 2 shops(which you can also buy artifacts from) or lvling. Getting the ability to farm like once a day which like doesn't matter much cuz you dont rly need to care much for the artifacts here just lvl whatever looks good. As for the gacha generosity while they arent as generous (unless you do all of the content for the version for said bonus limited timed gems) they do frequently give like a free 5 star like every other version, usually old units that can still perform well. You also have war treasury which like idk the currency is easy to get from events or the game's version of abyss for me but its also a slow grind sometimes.

33:30 that is not true. All those stigmata pieces can also be crafted, you dont need to gacha for them at all. The only gacha-only gear you need to pull for is the weapon. Note that this is only true for part 2 onwards characters and banners. Part 1 banners worked differently and for fairness reasons, part 1 reruns still feature the old system, which is what you noticed when you showed the focussed supply. Here you have to get the signature stigmata through banners, BUT there is a system to exchange 2 duplicates for a piece of your choice (Wishing Well button), so here too you are not forced to keep pulling till you got each piece at least once.