The Baby King Who Takes on Caesar

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Friends, is the Christmas story little more than a sweet, saccharine tale about a cute baby being born? Or do the Gospels present something more subversive and revolutionary, a battle between two great kings? That’s what Brandon Vogt and I discuss on today’s “Word on Fire Show” episode.
A listener asks, whose body is the Body of Christ in the Eucharist? Infant, crucified, or resurrected Jesus?
00:00 | Intro
01:31 | Bishop Barron at Good News Conference
03:56 | The surprising subversiveness of the Christmas story
05:44 | Christmas details-Caesar and his census
08:31 | Christmas details-“no room in the inn”
10:37 | Christmas details-swaddling clothes
12:06 | Christmas details-laid in a manger
13:36 | Christmas details-shepherds as first witnesses
15:47 | Christmas details-“do not be afraid”
18:38 | Christmas details-“heavenly host” of angels
23:47 | Why did God come as a baby?
25:16 | Listener question
26:43 | Join the WOF Institute
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@wendyfield7708 5 месяцев назад

Wonderful. Thanks. The more a disabled 90 year old like myself is “swaddled” through increasing immobility, the less distraction there is, giving room to a greater understanding and opening of spiritual things, if one gives it all to God. +

@changedlife1904 5 месяцев назад

Amen , I find myself in solitude right now just absorbing the good word

@arryserrano4373 5 месяцев назад

👏👏👏🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼♥️♥️♥️🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

@southpaw487 5 месяцев назад

Beautifully put, Wendy! A blessed Christmas to you!

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Evil has no substance. A good, tearful (out of "ontroering") smile is the whole World.

@MarkDiSciullo 5 месяцев назад

We are blessed to have Bishop Baron in our Church. Thank you for explaining how "Jesus slipped in behind enemy lines" The historical context leaves me in awe.

@rev.blakeevans3827 5 месяцев назад

I love St. Luke he uses Imperial Words so clearly to show a NEW kingdom of love is taking over; God bless all teachers of the faith.

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Everyone should parent each other, as long as the other isn't a degenerate. Many people are degenerate. Good fruits result from good trees. Good Fruit is a happy, tearful smile.

@marypinakat8594 5 месяцев назад

"It's when we bind ourselves to the other in love, when we wrap up our own egotism and we give ourselves to the other in love that we find real life and real Joy." *- Bishop Robert Barron*

@josiemascorro9701 5 месяцев назад

Amen!❤

@MrDarshD 5 месяцев назад

Love this discussion of how Baby Jesus was stronger than even Kings. That's the glory of our Lord and God

@minimaxmiaandme.4971 5 месяцев назад

Thanks Bishop Barron, another wonderful learning session for us. The baby with the angel army won! That sent a chill through my spine. God bless you and your army of evangelists.

@pheidipp 5 месяцев назад

The Peace of Christ be with you all, lovely people. All the very best for New Year.

@Hard_Car_Life 5 месяцев назад

Loved this! Thank you Bishop Barron. I pray the rosary with you on youtube. Your beautiful prayers of the rosary with the explanations of the mysteries seems to put me into another realm of prayer, and I often find myself weeping while praying with your beautiful rosary. Thank you for your wonderful ministry and may God always bless you!

@banquo80s99 5 месяцев назад

Wow.That indeed got me into reflection mode!!That a baby born in a manger has won over the powerful emperor and empire the world has seen.

@marypinakat8594 5 месяцев назад

The Mass, even the Christmas Mass, is always the memorial of the passion, death and resurrection of Jesus. In the Eucharistic presence we have the body, blood,soul and divinity of Jesus, with his risen Glory.

@ChildofGod98765 5 месяцев назад

Jesus give me grace and endurance this Christmas. As a single mother my number one priority, are my sons. Both of them are autistic so they require a lot from me. God give me strength as I struggle to provide for them. My faith in you is still strong! Even as I struggle to pay rent every month and I struggle to buy groceries for my children, I KEEP FAITH in you LORD. Jesus hear my prayers I’m so overwhelmed and discouraged because I’m also battling lupus and have heart issues. Lord give me strength because I want to give up. 😢

@charschuh7536 5 месяцев назад

Never give up! You are the perfect Mom for your children. Jesus will give you the grace you need each day! I will pray for you. Char

@alanabell853 5 месяцев назад

Your testimony gives me courage. I will offer prayers for you moving forward. I pray for full healing from your health issues. For your children to have the best care and a bright future. For you to have all the strength and peace you need in this life and for the ultimate Joy to wrap your heart and hold it forever. May God bless you abundantly today, this Christmas and always. Merry Christmas.

@marlenesabiooliva7667 5 месяцев назад

Your sharing is so powerful! Many people will be drawn to God. God bless!

@joserubio9615 5 месяцев назад

God loves you and we do too! God Bless you and your family. Merry Christmas! Ave Maria

@elainealbury6882 5 месяцев назад

May His very special grace be with you this Christmas as you faithfully continue your walk with the Lord.

@r-i24 5 месяцев назад

*One of the best perspectives on Christianity. Superb*👌👌

@TecOneself 5 месяцев назад

I love you in a spiritual way father, every breath is a miracle. 💜

@michelleharkness7549 5 месяцев назад

JESUS I TRUST IN YOU

@matthewmotyka475 5 месяцев назад

It's not only that Jesus won this one particular battle, but that He wins all battles over time... in His time to be precise... wonderful interview!

@sonja148 5 месяцев назад

JESUS, I trust in you.

@chasejennings4129 5 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas Bishop Barron and to everyone! I wish I can meet you in person one day!

@imnotanalien7839 5 месяцев назад

I loved this interview. It was so interesting learning the historical surrounding’s of the birth of Christ. 🎄🎄🎄❤️✝️

@TecOneself 5 месяцев назад

How profound and composing around what we''ve learned, stories of beauty and wisdom, so many people and masters, followers surrounding this symbols of meaning towards the Lord.

@dennisederer3594 5 месяцев назад

I always have been in awe about the massive Roman Empire. After today, I have a whole new perspective of a wreck. So interesting. Thank you Bishop Baron.

@maridambrosio523 5 месяцев назад

Thank you, Bishop Barron. I'm on my way to Mass

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

For the Eternal and Holy Catholic Church.

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

I do whatever I must do for the few people that are Good. And the children; let's see what they choose to be.

@juanmaperegrino 5 месяцев назад

Great listening to this marverlous interpretation of the Nativity of Our Lord. God bless you, Bishop Barron.

@lcojom36 5 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas Word on Fire team! May God bless us all ❤

@JW-kx4qp 5 месяцев назад

❤Subject Very Much Astutely Appreciated My Good Bishop❤

@lynnhale8752 5 месяцев назад

So appreciated the depth expressed by the Christmas story

@nicolasdedorlodot4984 5 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas to the WOF whole team.Thank you to all of you for your precious work.Greetings from the heart of Europe, Brussels

@SeptemberApril-io1hi 5 месяцев назад

This is an amazing talk!!!❤

@billkathleenalbrecht3414 5 месяцев назад

Bishop Baron, Not knowing where else to leave this comment I am leaving it here. Please help all of us who strive to understand the teachings of the Catholic faith and live a life in conformity with the teachings of the Church-- what does this blessing of same-sex relationships mean which the Vatican and Pope Francis have released TODAY. What has been released makes no sense in the light of the teachings of the church from the church's inception. Furthermore, doesn't this also now call into question the use of contraception by heterosexual couples who are not open to life. How will the Church maintain doctrinal authority going forth on any and all issues from here? Theologically this appears to be disastrous and socially suicidal. What in the name of Heaven is going on?

@KevinK-rq4ur 5 месяцев назад

Amen Awesome Amazing Mystical JP

@rev.blakeevans3827 5 месяцев назад

In Bethlehem a Jewish tour guide now Eastern Catholic told us that the shepherds in Beth. were actually staffers employed by the Temple, I found that very interesting, those lambs were the important lambs sold for Temple sacrifice; the seeing of the baby in a manger would likely be the feeding stalls of lambs; the baby born in the House of Bread is also showing he is lamb to be sacrificed and food for our souls.

@user-yn6on1rq2o 5 месяцев назад

Powerful, grounded in the Gospel and foundational for my faith.

@b8akaratn 5 месяцев назад

Wow, that's the first time i have ever thought about the feeding trough (manger at birth) paralleling the wooden cross holding His flesh at death, thank you... Can't help but then think that the Last Supper was also at a wooden table... 💙❣️

@kevinkelly2162 5 месяцев назад

Sorry to interrupt your deep thoughts but before plastic almost everything was made of wood.

@b8akaratn 5 месяцев назад

@@kevinkelly2162 u don't say!

@kevinkelly2162 5 месяцев назад

Don't you have some deep and meaningful reflection on plastic?@@b8akaratn

@b8akaratn 5 месяцев назад

@@kevinkelly2162 ppl like you think in terms of dead stops. Sure i don't go deep (in fact here, i elected for wide, y'know, looking for simple similarities or parallels)... but you don't go at all. Hope that keeps working out for ya! 😊

@kevinkelly2162 5 месяцев назад

People like you try to make the mundane deep and meaningful. What else would you expect a manger to be made of? The door was also made of wood. Oh yeah, Jesus came to show us the door to eternal life. The beams were made of wood. Oh yeah, Jesus came to support us in our time of need. Need I go on?@@b8akaratn

@mzarate6288 5 месяцев назад

Thank you Bishop Baron for this beautiful meditation on the Nativity of Our Lord. Merry Christmas 🌲🙏🏻

@margueritelangton6362 5 месяцев назад

I heard somewhere that the shepherds used to wrap yearling lambs which seemed likely to be chosen for sacrifice, to protect their fleeces. Our Paschal lamb was wrapped in swaddling cloths.....

@henrylimnyuy3195 5 месяцев назад

who else has noticed the Hey Brando trademark? ❤

@banquo80s99 5 месяцев назад

Couldnt help making a 2nd comment --- the lowly manger and the baby w/swathing clothes contrasted to the trappings of the power, the the imperial palace and ermine clothing of the Roman Empire....Wow --- what a Paradox and Irony....Love lots and Merry Christmas, everyone....from the Phils!!!

@tammygianfortune5295 5 месяцев назад

Bishop Barron- loved how you simply described in an easy to understand way the symbolism & story of the birth of our Lord Jesus!

@johnmartin4650 5 месяцев назад

Thank you , and a very happy Christmas to you and yours .

@atticusleeds3957 5 месяцев назад

I still hold that Ricky Bobby has more spiritual depth by wanting to pray to baby Jesus than his family who objects to it because "Jesus was a grown man".

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Life on earth is a trial. Can you turn it into Earth? Then you deserve Heaven. Not doing evil onto others is an expectation, and isn't in and of itself a Good.

@halfordmunene3121 5 месяцев назад

And now the great spirit dismantling babylon kingdom is the risen baby king.

@JW-kx4qp 5 месяцев назад

❤Blessed are you by Angels❤

@marcialaguinaldo1071 5 месяцев назад

Wow! All the explanations are so believable. Thank you so much bishop for sharing this knowledge.

@amexicanladyonthesoutherncross 5 месяцев назад

Thank you.

@mikee6220 5 месяцев назад

Blessed are we for the King of Kings has arrived

@anneturner2759 5 месяцев назад

Wonderful, thanks to you both …. Merry Christmas, He came , He lives . Just simply , yes , weirdly ,nothing better…. Caesar, see ya , wouldn’t wannna be ya… 🌲🎄

@Melissa-us4zk 5 месяцев назад

Alleluia!!!

@bukurie6861 5 месяцев назад

Thank you Lord,Thank you God!Amen❤🌍

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Father Barron, you should be Pope. The next one. This one is decent, I guess. ❤

@Adelina-bg3fc 5 месяцев назад

Champion!!!!

@arryserrano4373 5 месяцев назад

You Guys deserve this Ty for all you do🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 GBUA👏👏👏🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼♥️♥️♥️✌️🦋

@wendyfield7708 5 месяцев назад

To this day in this area animals are kept in caves/grottoes under the houses.

@michelleharkness7549 5 месяцев назад

Eastern Time Zone- Nortb America: btw: praying 🙏 for wellness of spirit ( SAV) for my BFF ( #2) who recently celebrated a special birthday 🎂: in thanksgiving

@praxidescenteno3233 5 месяцев назад

All cause i Saw a Saint since 13 years old passing by much and trying to be with Godself ever since 5 years old

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

I owe Tolstoy my life.

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

And not just yours - Gabriël.

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Angels are Righteous Fury.

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Amen - Gabriël.

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

The Truth can be far-right.

@michelleharkness7549 5 месяцев назад

Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe of Mexico 🇲🇽; Northern Hemisphere: btw: Our Blessed 😇 Lady of Guadalupe of Mexico 🇲🇽: Pure Blessed 🥹 Virgin Most Undefiled: Mother Immaculate: Intercede for us

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

I pray to Mary, for she is my True Mother. I pray to the Father. I am terrified of Gabriël. And Jesus is Lord. ❤

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Jesus went to Hell. And overcame it. That's why he is the Messiah. Jesus is Lord. ❤ (I am talking about the literal Jesus Christ.)

@susanparker767 5 месяцев назад

✨🙌🏼✨ … ✨💪🏼✝️🛡️✨ … Alleluia ✨🎶✨ Amen ✨🙏🏼✨

@praxidescenteno3233 5 месяцев назад

We can't stop to preach the comming from the baby David or Jesús Christ cause is the reason of our lifes to LOVE all one to eachoters as Jesús Christ did SO at Cross

@rypoelk997 5 месяцев назад

Amen. Christ is victor and the Church still stands. Interesting observation on the years of Christ's hidden life, patiently waiting for the time to reveal himself or perhaps taking the time to prepare himself. I'm also reminded of Odysseus when he returns from his tribulations and journey. Enemies have overrun his property and oppressed his family. Rather than jumping right into action, Odysseus disguises himself and goes undercover just to observe, plan and strategize. He takes his time to figure out the situation and what moves to make, finding the right opening to carry out a course of action. Of course, we shouldn't kid ourselves in thinking that enemies aren't doing the same thing. Think of the Omen movies. Often in history there is lots of espionage and years of secrecy predating the outright warfare for all to see.

@tappanzee3490 5 месяцев назад

THEY ARE RUINS!! A WRECK -- YES !!

@SilverLining1946 5 месяцев назад

A manger wouldn’t be ‘filthy’. It keeps the hay off the ground to keep it clean. It IS where cared for animals eat.

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

God is too Good to do Evil, that's what Angels are for.

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Amen - Gabriël.

@michelleharkness7549 5 месяцев назад

Pacific Time Zone- Nortb America: btw: praying 🙏 in earnest for my BFF ( SFO) who recently experienced a nice 😊 travel 🧭 vacation: special Intention

@marilynmelzian7370 5 месяцев назад

Maybe the significance of the shepherd isn’t so much their lowliness, as the fact that the symbol of kingship in the Old Testament is one of a shepherd. I have heard your description of the status of shepherd at the time of Jesus. Where is the source of that statement? Because I have also heard it said that it is possible that the flocks that they were tending were the ones intended for temple sacrifice, so wouldn’t that have been considered a necessary job?

@livin2themusick 5 месяцев назад

😇

@bernardwalsh9587 5 месяцев назад

Bishop Barron, thank you for your Spirit filled balanced message. What is the solution to those of us who are misrepresenting Pope Francis regarding same sex blessing? Recently even the BBC news have come out and made this bold claim that Pope Francis is now allowing blessings of same sex unions. Bishop we need your leadership. Too many of your countrymen are not honestly addressing the claim. God Bless and wishing you a joy filled Christmas.

@terryhopp645 5 месяцев назад

Serious question I hope I can get an answer too... we get a birthday cake for Christmas every year and sing happy birthday... now... can I have that cake blessed by the priest? Were planning eating it and I started thinking whats the difference between the cracker and cake? It's the symbolism of what were eating not the actually food?

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Bs. Robert Barron, a true Father.

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Mike Schmitz is Amazing.

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Also library Girl (with the dark skirt and the hair thing).... Soon... When I am out of this ward soon.

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Touch her and Gabriël will come. Amen - Gabriël.

@josipstipic8000 5 месяцев назад

❤️🙏

@andresteves4979 5 месяцев назад

The manger... take and eat.. this is My body...drink..this is My blood...The Holy Catholic church.. Mary Christmas Word on Fire cast and crew.. audience

@jojomcelwee1380 5 месяцев назад

❤️

@praxidescenteno3233 5 месяцев назад

Specially all poor people Even My Saints

@michelleharkness7549 5 месяцев назад

Archangels Gabriel, Michael and Raphael and All the Other Archangels: btw: Intercede for us ( Roman Catholic) : btw: ( world 🌎 wide)

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

De Vader is Ontzag (Vrees en Beven). De Zoon is Liefde. De Geest is (Inspiratie = goede vrouwen).

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Victims are made. Women and Men are within you.

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

But be patient. Not too patiënt, though.

@melvinshuster 5 месяцев назад

Do you have to be a Catholic to join the Word On Fire institute?

@ashleynovels 5 месяцев назад

No! Anyone can join❤

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Sex can be for enjoyment, in which case, you use contraception. However you never use people. Behandeld de ander nooit louter als middel maar ook altijd als doel op zich. But you get kids. Children want to stay children forever. Men and Women get kids.

@davidrowley8697 5 месяцев назад

hi marykate

@NickKowtko859 5 месяцев назад

❤😇

@InventorKnight 5 месяцев назад

Where is the outcry of blessing same sex?

@InventorKnight 5 месяцев назад

@@russellmiles2861 absolutely

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

True Faith is Blind; ask yourself "am I willing to burn eternally for this?" (This is what Kierkegaard meant in "Fear and Trembling). Pray to God: "God, dearest God, let me burn eternally if this is not Your Will."

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Amen - Gabriël.

@joeb2588 5 месяцев назад

I went back to the Catholic Church yesterday. First time in 30yrs. 1 day later they announce the blessing of same sex marriage. That was a short return. Not going back.

@sara505sings 5 месяцев назад

That's not what happened. That is a gross misinterpretation.

@joeb2588 5 месяцев назад

@@sara505sings then what happened exactly

@sara505sings 5 месяцев назад

I'm not sure exactly, trying to figure it out myself. I don't think it is a blessing of marriage, per se. One thing I do know is whatever you hear in the news regarding the Pope is not quite accurate. I would love to hear the bishop's explanation.

@joeb2588 5 месяцев назад

@sara505sings thank you. Me as well. The Catholic Church was always good upholding rules against abominations. Maybe you're right, and I'm seriously mistaken.

@sara505sings 5 месяцев назад

@@joeb2588it could be wishful thinking on. My hope is that the Pope is trying to extend mercy and kindness, not condoning necessarily, but also with an invitation for repentance and reconciliation. It's a very slippery slope. I'm sure we will be hearing more in the days to come. From every gamut, left to right. Hang in there! Remember, gates of hell etc.

@marcussmall782 5 месяцев назад

I think that the infancy narratives in Matthew and Luke perform the same function as the prologue John’s gospel, and indeed, the very short prologue in Mark‘s (This is the good news of Jesus Christ, the Son of God). All the gospels begin the adult life of Jesus with the ministry of John the Baptist. I think that the infancy narratives like the other two prologues are the gospel writers setting out who they think Jesus was and is. These are not biographies in the modern sense of the word biography, everything in the gospels serves to tell us the readers, who, and what the writers, and the communities in which they lived and worshipped, thought Jesus was.

@marcussmall782 5 месяцев назад

@@user-li6jo1su2x i’m slightly agnostic about that, they could be simply midrash, aimed at doing in a storytelling way, what Mark does, in a simple sentence, and John does in a poetic way, or they could be midrash with biographical elements. whilst it’s true, there are other virgin birth stories. I think the resemblance is superficial. The reason why we have the virgin birth in the story of Jesus is because Matthew was using a Greek translation of Isaiah 7:14 which uses the word virgin in a way that the Hebrew is a bit more ambiguous. I think finally that our age is rather obsessed , with the historical sense of scripture. That is a very modern concern.

@joe5959 5 месяцев назад

@@user-li6jo1su2xquoting zeitgeist bs isnt going to work out well

@marcussmall782 5 месяцев назад

@@RGlennon I haven’t watched the whole video yet, but I agree with Bishop Barron on the detail that we find at the beginning of the nativity story. What the story is giving us is that contrast between the most powerful person in the domination system of the day, and this child who is set to change the world. We see the exactly the same thing at the beginning of Mark’s Gospel, in a much pithier way , this is the victory proclamation of Jesus the king and son of God. We moderns tend to come to the text with the question, ‘is this historically true?’, whilst in early centuries people were not indifferent to that question, the more important question for them, and for the writer, was, ‘what does this mean? ‘And I agree with with Bishop Barron about the meaning.

@tgrufael2207 5 месяцев назад

Amen 🕎 💗 ✡️ 💗✝️💗🕎🌈🛐🛐🛐

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Adam without Eve was "honor" (kek).

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

The Catholic and Orthodox Bible is the the Truth. As is Tradition. But times change. A man can only step in a river once; for the man changes, and the river changes. (Some Greek guy said this, but meant something bs metaphysical with it.)

@michelleharkness7549 5 месяцев назад

Mountain Time Zone- Nortb America: BTW: praying 🙏 in earnest for the First Time Holy Communicants @ OLOL- SLC over twenty years ago: btw: bless, heal & protect

@0_3_6_9_0 5 месяцев назад

Do female angels exist?

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

For boys, after puberty: it's game. Let's not pretend the genders are the same. Different, but Equal.

@notloki3377 5 месяцев назад

where's the successor of caesar? i dunno, but we sure do have a lot of cool and normal shapes on the american dollar bill...

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

Jesus is Lord.

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

A bit weak - Gabriël.

@rali7584 5 месяцев назад

He doubted at the end. No suffering is too great to endure for the Father. To become One with Him is Honor.

@emekamarcel 5 месяцев назад

Hello Bishop Barron, I will really like to hear your viewpoint on Pope Francis’ approval to bless gay couples. I am a priest myself and many times I have encountered faithful Catholics who believe that Pope Francis is confusing them, that he is making them waver in their faith. One deeply concerned mother said to me, “Father, I really no longer know what to teach my children because of the Pope’s swinging between right and wrong.” Please, I really want to hear from you. Personally, I feel so distressed by what Pope Francis is saying and teaching. He does not own the Church. He’s not the founder of the Church. Sadly, I feel like he’s behaving like the owner and founder of the Christian faith. It’s so depressing.

@marlenesabiooliva7667 5 месяцев назад

As a lay person, what I understand about the blessing is on the person and not on the relationship. Because the Pope reiterated that marriage is between a man and a woman. As for me Pope Francis’ stand is crystal clear.

@docgillygun9531 5 месяцев назад

As a lay person as well, I wonder if perhaps the blessing is an acknowledgement that God still loves them, and despite the fact that they are sinners, they are no different as we are all sinners. It's the same as Jesus with the prostitute being stoned, he who has not sinned may cast the first stone. Us mortal sinners can render our judgment, but the real and final judgment and summation of an individual sinners life is not for us to render. Sexual orientation is 1 facet of an entire existence. But I do agree that God commanded that we reproduce and be fruitful once joined in marriage. Gay marriage therefore is a terminal end where in reality our species cannot flourish. But I agree, to see our most holy of elders arguing to the point of dissention is worrisome and my logical conclusion is divine intervention is likely not far off.

@emekamarcel 5 месяцев назад

On the issue of blessing gay couples, I vehemently disagree with Pope Francis. I don’t agree with him no matter how nuanced his case is made. Actually, blessing a heterosexual couple who are yet to enter into the sacrament of matrimony is qualitatively different from blessing a homosexual couple. The heterosexual couple has a clear path to getting married in the church eventually, but homosexual couple don’t. Usually, when I speak to heterosexual couples who are not married in the church, but want their babies baptized, I always inquire why they haven’t married: “Who is delaying it?” I always ask. But I cannot ask a gay couple the same question. The Catholic Church still considers homosexuality a sin. Isn’t it? In the areas of tackling climate change, fighting poverty, and addressing immigration etc, I support the Pope Francis. But on this matter of blessing gay couples, my response is No! This will definitely cause a “steady drip, drip, drip” shift towards the normalization of gay marriage in the Catholic Church. Watch out what’s going to happen. Blessing gay couples is a victory for gay advocates. Are they going to stop there? Not all! They will continue to push and push until who knows, Pope Francis or the one after him “bows to pressure” and issue a decree permitting gay marriage in the Catholic Church. I pray that many bishops and priests will resist this move.

@docgillygun9531 5 месяцев назад

I totally agree with you on that issue of not allowing gay couples to be married in the Catholic Church. That is absolute sin and a dead end to mankind. The Bible is very clear on that. And I agree, there would be creep if that, as well as allowing female priests was condoned. The Bible is clear on that. I suppose what I am trying to say is that God is merciful and does not expect a mortal to be perfect. With that being said, I would imagine God still loves each individual gay or straight. Therefore, I believe God, and any God believing person, can indeed make a blessing for a gay person or gay couple, and show them kindness and mercy without judgment and from a place of love and acceptance but also without agreeing with their free will. God is forgiving and always looking to guide and support. But the Bible draws a firm boundary, and that is the word of God, so it must not be crossed.@@emekamarcel

@praxidescenteno3233 5 месяцев назад

SO all mine but not just Baby David Every Baby and not born and all pregnants share mine

@pg6296 5 месяцев назад

The baby Jesus born in the fields of David, wrapped in swaddling cloth. Jesus the king born in the very fields where sacrificial lambs were bred and sold for temple sacrifice. The lambs like baby Jesus were rapped in cloth so they would be unblemished just like baby Jesus .