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@@Thomas_Angelo what? Yeah if you’re mentally challenged it’s hard to explain🤣😂Keemstar started his career as a troll and instigator, hes been doing it since cod black ops 2, started his RU-vid and rose cause of controversies /reporting controversies , but then people started waking up and realizing it’s probably not a good idea to support a problematic gnome, and he fell back down
Oh good I thought I was the only one, Turkey, Lanzo and even Illuminaughti Documentaries are great for passing time. Do wish TRO released more often though.
@@brenscott5416yeah but thanos dies, Keemstar is like a cockroach 😂 whenever he's close to dying he always comes back. Maybe he's more like William Afton from FNAF lol
Damn, kinda gotta disagree with the public view about the D'Angelo Wallace response. I think his lack of response to Sneako was the best response in that situation.
Agreed. I don't know in what circumstances "This guy's comment triggered me so bad I needed to rant for thirty minutes about how badly he got under my thin skin" needs any kind of response.
I don't much like D'Angelo but he seems like a more genuine and kind person than sneako. I hope his mental issues are being taken care of and he gets better. D'Angelo, not sneako. Though I hope sneako improves as a person too.
Bruh same, I had no clue since I haven’t ever touched tik tok, but that clip is quite literally pretending to fuck someone who is obviously more than unwilling what the actually fu…
Gotta love how a man says that the guy who was simulating fucking, slapping, and choking a woman who he disagreed with to entertain his child audience “didn’t deserve to be banned”.
I mean this guy also liked a comment on his sssniperwolf vid where someone was saying "this is why I don't talk to women", so... idk. Not saying he should be cancelled/called out or anything, but maybe as a yt commentater, practice what you preach or don't preach at all.
I’m pretty sure rape threats, no matter how serious, should be a bannable offense. I also think bomb threats, no matter how serious, should be bannable.
@@RealNick04 RU-vid is a private company that makes money off of Ads. Those companies that put Ads on RU-vid will simply pull their Ads if they believe that the content is spreading misinformation or hate speech. He messed with RU-vid’s bag and payed for it.
@@banksrail ur not wrong but idk if Sneako was spreading misinformation about Covid, but its upsetting how RU-vid can ban anyone for vague reasons and not follow their own rules that they enforce and ban whoever they want, although Sneako was being a douchebag to that one girl named Chad Chad in that one clip along with making stupid accusations towards Brandon Buckingham.
The implication around 51:00 suggesting senority means they deserve security is INCREDIBLY dangerous. Sneako should've been wiped, as you said, way earlier.
There’s a difference between dark/edgy humor, and spreading misogyny, disgust, and hatred. Tate and Sneako spread that, they weren’t trying to be funny. They thought they were smart. They faced the consequences for being ego filled jerks, and real social commentary is nothing like what they did.
Frfr, honestly Turkey’s actual takes when he breaks away from simply reading a timeline of events just feel like he doesn’t actually know what he’s talking about. Just taking some summarization of what happened than try and spitball his own takes with what he knows(not a whole lot apparently) like sneako’s ban is not only justified but to try and say that it wasn’t means he either doesn’t know the full extent of his bs or simply doesn’t care/partially agrees with some of what sneaky says
And the difference is exactly where my feelings begin and nowhere else, they shouldn't have crossed that line and deserve everything bad that happens to them because they didn't toe the exact line I like.
@@regulagianci2231 Well then you could say this with literally anything. Isn't that what a lot of law is founded upon? Isn't that what makes certain things socially acceptable and others not? Isn't what you're saying ironically the exact same thing you're doing by leaving a comment like that?
keemstar is the type of person who holds the door for someone as you enter a restaurant, and then proceeds to tell you how generous an amazing he is for doing it.
So he tells Mr Beast he can't edit videos due to ADHD, Mr Beast advises him to hire an editor like every major RU-vidr... and he FREAKS OUT, gets so offended he creates an "expose video"... literally acting like the stereotypical women he hates so much, extremely emotional fatherless behaviour lmao
51:16 the problem with that statement is that shutting down someone's ability to incite violence and spread hate is not the same as taking away someone's freedom of speech.
@@jtzr1371 It isn't though. He has every right to go outside and yell his bullshit on a street corner. The private company has every right to ban him from their service for breaking their rules.
@@jtzr1371 it looks like you don't know the definition of free speech. It doesn't include threats, calls to violence, doxxing, or hate speech. Because those things infringe on the freedom of other people. Your freedom ends where another person's freedom starts. If you're verbally endorsing ideas that put other people's safety in danger, or trying to intimidate them with threats, you are crossing a line where your freedom to say what you want is much less important than the protection of the other person's basic human rights.
@@jtzr1371 Damn, this guy over here thinking he can go out and scream racial slurs, and how he's going to murder everybody and say that's free speech, I think you've mistaken free speech for a ticket to prison for life.
Not really, only thing that changed is that he started streaming. He’s always been quite vocal about his views, once he started streaming as a faster way respond to repeated criticism he just happened to fall into the same space as people like Andrew Tate, The FreshNFit cast etc.
Man used to have good videos now all he does is shill politics calling people bots while listing his bot talking points that he's been brainwashed to believe
No, I don't agree that banning him or Tate will bite anyone in the ass. I can without a doubt say that society is easily bettered by banning them and I don't find it convincing that this is even a mild threat to free speech
The issue is that when we ban these people, they don’t just disappear. They go somewhere else like 4chan. They all end up in this same place together and they create a massive echo chamber with people that just further radicalize eachother without anyone to challenge their ideas. This is how you get to people driving their cars through parades to kill the chads and Stacy’s and going to mosques to kill people because they’re scared of the great replacement. At least if we’re sharing a platform with these people, it’s much easier to combat their rhetoric
censoring ideas only makes them stronger. covering something up always results in people asking why it was buried and looking into it hell, I've become something younger me wouldn't be able to comprehend for that reason alone
@@jadeblade865 see, this is the shit I hate about people like Tate. They always promote degenerate behaviour and use the shock factor as being "the waking up to reality", which I personally like to call it the "anti-woke wokeness". I don't even think they fully endorse it, I genuinely think they do it for the insane views they get. But then you have young teens, their lives' are shit, and they fall for this crap. And then people like you have your warranted reaction. And now people fight over how much of a pos they are
@@jadeblade865 Pffftttt,there's no need for that! If he's really an Andrew Tate fan then there's next to a 0% chance that he'll ever even get a girl anywhere CLOSE to to his wee-wee.
Sneako is the Perfect example of what having an ego can really do. It ruins everything. He had the looks, talent, chances, work ethic, ideas and threw it all (Damn I got a lot of insults cause of this comment 💀, wont be responding to any cause ultimately it is pointless and I cannot change how people think, however it just goes to show the toxic side of sneakos community)
Sneako being banned is the equivalent of your sibling getting in trouble. You feel bad for them and don't want to see them punished. But at the end of the day, you're not surprised because they were told this was going to happen if they kept acting out. Sneako was told he was going too fast. He didn't listen and he suffered for it.
I feel like the consensus for sneako is that people just found him mildly entertaining and agreed with a few things, I’d say it was about 50/50 but personally old sneako is better.
how did you make this entire hour long video about this guy and arrive at the conclusion that he didn’t deserve to be banned? i’m honestly floored that’s where you ended up. i’ve watched your content for a long time and really love your style but that’s such a whack conclusion to end up with. :/
yeah, I’m not subscribed but I was considering it until this, how can you show a clip of him doing and saying stuff like that about chad chad and then still stay he didn’t deserve his ban
Yeah this made me sad, I had a sneaking suspicion Turkey Tom was a bit of a shitty person with some of his previous vocabulary he used but I just wrote it off as me reading too much into things. Only to find this video of him depending a completely amoral shithead who literally advocates rape and sexual harassment for kicks as "free speech." Weird hill to die on.
Yeah, the only way to make it rational (and this is quite a stretch) is maybe he meant sneako should be allowed to stay because he humiliates himself being a lolcow and an example of what not to do? idk, even that’s super flimsy. funniest part though is how sneako wanted to fight Tom irl after this, and he accepted, then sneako bailed out last minute and hasn’t talked about Tom ever since
Exactly what I was thinking. He absolutely deserves a ban. How do some people not get that? This isn't about free speech. Tom's videos are alright, but they aren't entirely objective and I wish if he was going to be neutral, he'd at least understand that hate speech and general speech in public forums *are* always going to be subject to potential removal, ban, deletion, blockage, etc. Because *that* is a protected aspect of free speech. Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean you can just say whatever you want without consequence then cry, "but mah free speech" when your content is removed. If it's public, you will always be held accountable to somebody. To top it off, it's evident Sneako's speech was full of hatred. Double-whammy against him.
@@Ionilas turkey tom probably has some pretty sh1t views if we got down to brass tacks. You can see a little bit of it sneaking through a lot of his videos.
@@equinox_night not the guy but pretty sure that it feels like he appreciates edgy content/creators. The way he speaks about 2013-16 youtube seems to be in a tone of nostalgia and loss because of how the social media landscape changed, and many times he seems to kinda dislike personalities that have grown beyond that (like the guy of content cop, for example).
To be fair, he did pretend to SA someone who criticized him on a livestream. It was a warranted ban, as that is straight up s3xual harassment no matter which way you shake that stick. I'm honestly impressed that Chad Chad didn't respond to such an awful clip because you know they saw it. You know his fans blasted Chad Chad with that clip. I do think the platform has a sh*t system when it comes to giving out punishments, where it misses the mark 90% of the time, but this was definitely that 10% where it didn't miss the mark. You don't pretend to SA someone just because they criticized you and that hurt your feelings, especially on a livestream surrounded by people you know cling on to your every word. He had a responsibility and a chance to show people how to appropriately respond to criticism and he honestly could not have responded in a worse way. Now, being unprofessional itself should not be a bannable offense, but pretending to SA someone on a livestream? Oh yeah, totally. While we're at it, let's get the police involved and put him on The List. He can be a woman-hater until his little heart bursts with joy, but that was 50 Shades of Never Okay.
Honestly this! I'm getting sick of both side aguing and arguing and arguing abt this that and blah blah blah But yeah honestly threatening SA in ANY way should be a ban. Like u said outside of that yeah other reasons can be messy alot of the time but I think we need to be careful with censorship AND letting ppl say what they want. Either one gone too far can end disastrously. And that's coming from someone who really values the "say what you want to say" mentality, doesn't mean consequences don't exist, but there's nuances to that like everything.
the rise of sneako and tate-like people is a direct consequence of the demonising of traditional masculinity. the people that hate tate the most are the people responsible for his rise and influence when you erase normal masculinity, it leaves only the more extreme, warped, and inflated parody of it that tate pedals. tate became famous because he's the only mainstream source of masculinity of any kind left. these people have nobody to blame but themselves for tate and his clones rising, and I'm only surprised it took as long as it did
The audacity to say that the ban isn’t justified is crazy to me, making literal rape threats and CLEARLY breaking TOS doesn’t get a “well it’s free speech imo” like come on. The free speech conversation has gotten so diluted from people openly admitting that they just want to say slurs and marginalize people. You don’t sit there and say “oh it’s okay we just don’t see eye to eye”, especially when given multiple chances to correct said behavior just to double down.
Lol calling that a “threat” is reaching hard. Me and every single boy I knew in middle school made the exact same jokes about the girls and female teachers in my school. Especially the Karen teachers. It’s called locker room humor
@@SchmuelGoldstein-mj8rk That's the thing though it's "locker room" talk not "post a video to thousands of impressionable children who idolize you" talk. There's a time and place for dark humor but to say that had no negative impact is just ignorant.
@@RealSweatyGamer well anyone who takes sneako seriously, I agree, he does have a negative impact. But how many people actually take him seriously? At this point he’s basically a lolcow
@@SchmuelGoldstein-mj8rk Well earlier on in his career he was actually considered a pretty reasonable guy. His following also primarily consisted of 16-24 year old males that weren't particularly fond of women and thought themselves much smarter than they actually are. Basically he was apart of the early sigma movement, and his derailing into this nonsense lead to thousands of young impressionable men adopting his views. With all that said, I don't believe he should have been banned, It's our responsibility as consumers to "cancel" those who have destructive views.
Boy I have news for you a ton of men especially Teens are very insecure so they latch on to "Masculine" men that are actually hacks and leach off of them.
How do you think TikTok is so popular? Or Instagram, Snapchat, only fans etc Weak minded people are the core of our society, hence the reason society is the way it is.
When I was 16 or so I used to love arguing or "debating" with people for little reason. Thankfully I grew out of it or I might've ended up like sneako. I don't understand how someone can go through their life being so disliked.
i really hope this saga of unfunny bait "argue just to argue" trolls die out glad you got the human decency to grow out of that i was like that one too everyone was the problem is that everyone just doesnt stop
@@bendlhk7421 Why would anyone spend days or weeks on the internet arguing with a stranger about if Bridget is a boy or a woman? I see stuff like that as pointless.
@@AdachiCabbage what the hell is bridget ? and no i don't mean strangers i mean like friends or familly members etc i mean you can learn a think or two from them
i could not stop laughing at sneakos blatant bisexuality but him trying to play it off for the andrew tate audience EDIT HOLY SHIT THIS GUY WATCHED HIS GIRL GET BANGED IN FRONT OF HIM LMAO
"But it's about how wrong soyciety is for sexualizing children! You're so indoctrinated by the left wing media that you can't even see that!" -Sneako probably
He simulated an SA on a fellow creator on his livestream in front of hundreds of thousands of impressionable kids. If not a ban then what punishment would you propose Tom? Should we have a 3 strikes policy on simulating SA on fellow creators in front of children? The "free speech" argument doesn't fly here and never will.
The problem with RU-vid moderation isn't really the rules, because the rules they do have makes sense. The problem is how they enforce those rules. They demonetize channels who say swear words in the first 15 seconds of their video (even if the videos are meant for a mature audience) while allowing channels like quantum tv to foster toxic communities
i think the punishment should be on youtube - because as far as i can tell it's their responsibility to stop "impressionable kids" from getting to content which may radicalize them in the first place. of course, since youtube kids didn't take off it's better to bubble-wrap the entire internet just in case somebody gets offended. oh well, happens
He's a very real example of falling down the "whatever the fuck its called now" rabbit hole. I've strayed close to it before but seeing him fall down it so much harder and faster than I even thought possible really woke me up. Especially since I used to really respect him.
@Zoomer Imperator personally I see it as the "politically active, philosophically intrigued 16 year old male on the internet to bigoted egotripping minor online celebrity" pipeline. Almost fell for it myself, so I'm definitely projecting from my past there, but I think it fits adequately (at least in this case)
@Zoomer Imperator He's probably talking about the "Whatever is famous at the moment" cycle, small/medium size youtubers want to gain popularity quickly? They'll copy every single mainstream topic at the moment, and then fall into being forgotten about, the thing that killed sneako was the fact that he spoke too much about a topic with little to no information to back up his whole lot of bullshit
@Zoomer Imperator probably means that he wanted ti gain more popularity so he tried to get them by acting like whatever was popular wich was Andrew tate and his type of content
It's never been popular to whore your girlfriend out to another nìgga, then watch her moan in ecstasy while dude is deep donging her, & you're just sitting silently in your cuck chair with tears pouring down your cheeks.
Anyone who pantomimes themselves raping another content creator DOES deserve to get banned. There was no “disagreement” with Chad Chad. He was reacting to one of her videos. He did what he did completely unprovoked…not that pretending to SA/R someone is ever excusable in any context. Chad Chad seems like a very nice and drama-free creator, and she didn’t deserve to be humiliated and threatened like that.
@@Junk8 yall talk about how a lot of flaque being given to sneako is just because people disagree with his views but then say someone else is slandering just because you disagree with her views
@@Junk8 That's the style of her content. Like Danny Gonzalez or Kurtis Connor, the point is to take the blanket statements and make funny skits. Most of her content isn't supposed to be educational, more of a funny skit about things that are going around.
Yeah, I really liked his earlier stuff and he had a lot of actually high quality videos and great takes on a lot of things rarely addressed. I consider myself pretty left-leaning and disagreed with a lot of his views, but I still very much respected him and watched a lot of his videos. Was very disheartening watching him go the way he did.
sucks that he wont listen to anyone but himself and his retarded brain. Would be great if he took the meds but you know.. "that what the illuminati wants you to do" lol
Lol I like the part where he whines about the way he felt watching his gf bang another dude. Bro just cheated on someone cuz he couldn't keep it to himself for 3 weeks 😂 he totally deserved the karma & gets no sympathy from me
sorry but i gotta say it - banning someone for threatening r and spreading ideologies that actually hurt people, isn't killing freedom of speech - it's taking a threat to safety seriously. sneako can say whatever he wants, but that doesn't mean he's free from the consequence of what his words mean.
@@KN-hg2nv freedom of speech does mean freedom from consequences of that speech, unless you're going to argue that saudi arabia has free speech because "you can still openly blaspheme the royal crown, you'll just get publically beheaded for it :)" It's entirely within youtube's right to not host sneako on their platform as a private company, but this crap about "freedom from consequences" doesn't track and it's dishonest.
@@regulagianci2231 free speech in the US just means freedom from government persecution. YT and other platforms are private entities and if you violate TOS then you’re out. Not complicated.
As a 13 year old girl I can say that sneako and Andrew Tate (along with all the other alpha male red pill creators) have heavily effected me and so many other girls. It feels like the boys I grew up around, my own friends, have turned into total strangers. I know very few boys in my grade who DON'T like sneako. It doesent matter if he is "just playing a character", because you cant deny the fact that these creators are effecting us every day. I wish more people would listen to girls like me who are actually experiencing the real world consequenses of his actions. I'm just scared that I'm gonna continue to grow up in an environment full of horrible men who don't respect me. I dont want to have to tolerate it. I thought the world was getting better but to be honest it feels like we're reverting back to old ways.
Yes the young men and boys are being taught to behave in a way that is totally unappealing but sold the idea that the only problem that needs to be fixed is that they are not rich enough. Not sure what 13 year olds are supposed to do with that information. There is a video of Sneako with his girlfriend at dinner with Destiny and his girlfriend and Sneako acts in the most respectful, beta way imaginable (not that there is anything wrong with that). What would your solution be? Obviously age-gating would be sensible but doesn't work with other content. What would be the criteria to ban red-pillers?
@@michaelh878 Honestly I'm not sure what I would do to stop this. I guess it's somewhat inevitable that these creators will exist but for some reason, they've recently been gaining a larger platform of impressionable young men. The thing that draws them in is usually the fact that these people are everything they arent; rich, successful, and free to do whatever they want. This makes these boys look up to them. Maybe if more celebrities that they look up to start speaking out against this type of thing, they'd listen. I also think that banning dangerous ideology from easily accessible platforms (like RU-vid, TikTok, and Instagram) and limiting it to specific websites could work. Said websites could include something like an age verification system where you have to show an id or something. Clearly, this is somewhat of an unrealistic solution, but it's a pretty tricky problem to solve.
Here's a hint: Not all societies/ countries (not even all regions in your country) are full of such degenerates... If you can, move away. I live in a big German city and here you also have so many of those gen Z teens, who are copying all those social Media clowns.. it's sad and pathetic. But I can't change these people. I will have to move away eventually.
few years ago I came across Sneako and I actually enjoyed his content. He seemed like a chill kid who I could watch while drawing, doing hw, etc. I stopped watching him a year later (not for any reason just started watching other people). I noticed him becoming popular and I was happy because this youtuber I use to watch was growing, until I looked more into everything. I noticed my favorite commentary youtubers talking about him. It's sad to watch a kid slowly grow into a very angry and overall narcissistic person. I don't miss the old Sneako at all because old Sneako would eventually grow into the Sneako we have today.
Sneako is a sickly animal that had driven itself into a corner out of fear Twisting and turning, scratching at his eyes and head while his pupils shake violently within his own head, it’s almost as if a movie reel is spinning within his mind replaying every event in painful detail. You can practically hear his grinding teeth. To him, the world is shattering, crumbling, maybe even burning. But for us there is no such tension. We walk past calmly, ignoring the rapid creature in the corner that through strained eyes is begging for attention. He’s waiting for the moment somebody reaches a hand, gives him a chance. Let him jubilantly grasp their hand, squeezing the life from it. He knows that he shouldn’t be squeezing, cutting the circulation from their arms. He needs to keep his act together, but he can’t help it. Such aggression just leaks from his temple. He needs something justify his existence. He needs something to break, to prove to himself he is not weak, that he can stand on his own, all he needed was a target to approach him so he can break their legs and stand on top of all their successes, stealing everything they own. What he doesn’t realize is that he’s always needed people to lean on, to prop him up. Without them he has no ideals. What is an actor without his script? Nothing. So he sits huddled in that corner, ever immersed in a paradox of his own design. There are more broken people in the world, just like him. Well, that’s enough 3 AM rambling for a comment, hope you found it interesting.
@@kadenk9298 that’s the problem why is this spoiled weak beta kid preaching masculine alpha stuff? At least tate been through hardships been a fighter and his old enough. What has sneako done? Get cucked?
"Evil" doesn't exist.. there are only actions (decisions) that are morally or ethically right or wrong. Everyone is capable to kill somebody (like billions are capable to kill an animal)... but not everyone will choose to do so for reasons like greed, egoism etc.
@@oliveryt7168 "Evil doesn't exist.... there are only actions (decisions) that are morally or ethically right or wrong." *So basically your saying "evil" DOES exist...*
I can't get passed the fact that he literally threatened a person more than once and people think he shouldn't have faced action for it. Like I do love all of the points made in this video and I agree with everything else, but I don't get that part.
I really hate the “he didn’t deserve it” narrative in this video. He literally falsely accused another creator of r*pe, said if there was only one woman left on earth she’d be r*ped because tHeReS nO cOnSeNt oR pOLiCe, and graphically imitated a sex act on a female creator on his stream. His audience and content was centered around hating women and general misogyny, he most certainly deserved it.
One throwaway line in an hour long video that basically just says “hey this dude’s banning might serve as a cautionary tale about free speech in the future” is not a “narrative” nor does it mean “he didn’t deserve it.” Tom even says that sneako was exposing his audience to some very dangerous stuff.
I remember watching him back in 2018 then just not even hearing his name until late 2022. He had changed so much. He used to be most people would call insecure but open about his thoughts. Half his videos had themes about mental health, there really was an "old Sneako". It was insane coming back and seeing what happened to him after the years.
Honestly, imo, I miss old Sneako. His old videos where he used to set up a table and talk to people around NY was honestly the most genuine and refreshing content he has put out. Over the years I've fallen off, especially with his podcast, but there once was a time where he was making golden and wholesome content. Ion know. Dude wasn't always so bad
It's weird how most of us living on Earth will never meet or even acknowledge each other's existence. For example, if you're reading my comment; this is probably the first and last time you'll ever see me.
I like your content and agree with you on a lot of issues, but I also have to say that I think there's a difference between free speech and brainwashing teenagers into thinking things that these huge creators are promoting. I mean, there has to be some kind of line drawn, and I think that when their content is directly inciting physical violence, that is probably too far.
it's a consequence of the time. traditional masculinity has been demonised for over a decade now, leaving only the comically inflated parody of it remaining. it's the sole reason andrew tate blew up in the first place. young, insecure men see no other showcase of masculinity than tate, despite it being a facsimile of real masculinity and roles. to pretend otherwise is delusion
@@Sillimant_ the big problem is now people are realizing that young teenage boys are the best way to grow and audience and make money from their insecurities. The fact that they probably don't even agree with anything they're saying arguably makes it worse. At least the other way they would have some set of moral values.
Incitement to violence isn’t even protected by the 1st amendment however the problem is that what exactly counts is up to opinion so RU-vid isn’t going to get rid of anyone but a small creator unless they feel their hand is being forced
@@redoak4543 Incitement to violence is a felony offence. so on the offhand someone that uses RU-vid as a platform gets a charge under "Incitement to violence" whose main 'incitement' is using RU-vid videos, it could bring RU-vid into a Felony charge. coming from a purely business view, RU-vid probably realized the severity of his hatred online and also realized if they continued to platform him it could bring them into hot water if someone was to try to bring him into legal trouble. (which it being a streamer who basically only was relevant because of Andrew Tate, was un-probable but still a possibility)
@@Sillimant_”traditional masculinity” is your synonym for toxic masculinity, that thing that most assuredly is bad and erodes the happiness and well-being of everyone Yes, it is rightly demonized But an important thing to note is that Toxic Masculinity is not a standin for masculinity as a whole Masculinity *can* be very good but it is very often used to exploit and abuse vulnerable people
whenever I hear "open relationship" my mind immediately goes to that Alex Jones clip "YOU'VE CHOSEN THE PATH OF PAIN!!!!!!" I just don't get how anybody can think making their intimate relationship not intimate is a good idea.
@@juliusevola2116 Yes, you can. It's not for a lot of people, but better to have an open relationship than having a mono relationship that ends up with one or both people cheating and causing a bunch of sh*t. Humans are one of the most diverse species on the planet. It's only logical that we're also diverse in how we romantically love. Forcing/shaming people for being involved in different kinds of relationships is only going to hurt people because it suppresses research on how to have these relationships and still be healthy and happy. Open relationships are going to happen no matter what. Better to at least make sure no one gets hurt than to try and shove it in the dark where something truly insidious can happen.
@@gem9535 I highly doubt this, I really can't see how an open relationship is anything other than a suboptimal contract agreed upon because either one or both parties aren't truly content or compatible. An open relationship seems to be de facto cheating and that's basically ironclad evidence the relationship won't work. I see encouraging open relationships as the dangerous route since you create the illusion that this toxic relationship can work and provide some lasting happiness which it definitely cant. Often times the people in such relationships would truly be better off breaking up with one another and finding a more compatible personality type which is of course easier said than done.
@@feshpince7181 How many open relationships last more than... 10 years? "Works" is a very relative term there are plenty of examples of lifelong marriages though they're becoming rarer unfortunately. Can the same be said of open relationships or is the timescale highly myopic and short? I believe they can "work" for a handful of years but the idea that anybody is happy in an open relationship is dubious to me and that they'd continue to be happy when both parties are in their 40s or so sounds practically mythical to me.
I think what most people understand is that freedom of speech means freedom to say anything without government interference, not freedom to say anything without backlash from people and businesses. They don’t have the right to dictate what you say, but they have the full right to take you off their platforms or tell you your opinion is garbage.
The thing people always seem to get wrong about freedom of speech is that it does NOT mean youre safe from consequences. He deserved getting booted off the side for his disgusting behaviour, shit like that should not be tolerated in any situation.
@@arnavpandey3779 So people should be fine with assholes in their vicinity or idiots spreading harmful stuff on the internet? And last ive heard its not our decision to kick someone from the plattform but Googles/RU-vids. If you are fine with ppl like tate or sneako on yt thats your opinion, youre entitled to that, but nothing more. RU-vid decides what content they allow here, if the rules change so be it. Nobody is entitled to this service, especially not those that do not agree to the rules. Do i like it this way? Not really, but its the reality we live in, and i wont loose any sleep because some dipshit wannabe tate got the boot from yt.
@@klown463 Of course its free, nobodys preventing people from saying stuff. But just as with everything else we do, we have to live with the consequences of the things we say. If you tell your boss that he sucks at his job he has every right to fire you, but youre still allowed to say it. Its a very simple concept that people love to get wrong on purpose to suit their needs.
massive respect for being one of the few commentary RU-vidrs that actually respects free speech and thinks deplatforming/bans should only be reserved to absolute extremas
Sneako is a pretty big asshole but not one deserving of a ban. He is a pedo apologist though so I cant say I give a actual fuck about what happens to him
I get the vibe that Andrew Tate’s rhetoric (if that’s the right word) directly took advantage of Sneako’s vulnerabilities. Goes to show how dangerous those mentalities can be.
No, I think you’re trying to make it sound worse than it is. The reason why, is because that “mentality” got Andrew banned before sneako even did, so they got the same punishment, Andrew even worse. And if sneako really was some sort of clone, it just shows the extent that “they” want to shut that stuff down.
@@davebuilds7261 Sneako and Tate offer no secret info. I’ve heard their rhetoric from incels and the redpill community for years. The only difference is that Tate was the first successful person to spew the same rhetoric I’ve heard for years. You can’t act like Tate is like Julian Assange who is the owner of Wikileaks. Tate has managed to make u into a beta by bending over backwards for him
@@alexfp5980 what a backwards way of coping, all I’m saying is that it’s wrong to silence them. You giving the benefit of the doubt to the big guys is soo dull
it's almost surreal to see sneako have his own trilogy before becoming an andrew tate clone, i really did not expect the guy to make videos much earlier before this and let alone have a loyal fanbase
“I lost half my life savings on a GameStop meme, I’m just like you” Like it’s implied he’s like you because he’s “broke” now, as if everyone had a life savings to put into GameStop on a dumb stock meme to begin with. Just like us
I waited 6 months to see the love of my life again after having to move apart. Fuck I'll wait as long as I have to. 3 weeks, those are rookie numbers my boy.
His arc was predictable, but I think I'm less sad for Sneako than I am for anyone who actually took anything he said to heart. Or that took his advice seriously. Or bought his worthless course. Etc.
My brother acts like this. Very ego driven, and takes offense to things that aren't even offensive to cause drama and chaos. It's toxic narcissistic behavior.
I rly don’t get the hate, while he doesn’t specifically add quality advice he actively laughs at status quo. Even if person will not follow him they may take conscious notes of underlying issues (which don’t try to lie to yourself are real) it is tempting to claim moral high ground today but I advise to consider whether you are sure you’d still be right after 100, 1000, 10000 years.
I have so much time on my hands that I watch mini-docs on internet personalities that somehow have less character than I do and I'm not even in the script.
I think it doesn't matter how long the someone has been on the platform. If you essentially make threats like he did and hate speech then you deserve it. Guy totally did it to himself and I am very glad that "seniority" didn't save him. The rest of the video was very good but in my opinion that was just a bad take.
@@The_Funniest_Cut Disagree. Hate speech can tip so easily into extreme territory and he was feeding that speech to millions of impressionable people (idk why people were hanging off of his every word). Multiple people told him to chill out or else consequences would come fast and he said, "Let me speed run my downfall."
@@thxwanderer Well that’s his own fault. Hate speech is a good thing specifically because it shows everybody else how dumb these ideologies and concepts are, let them make fools of themselves so they lose support and influence. But, you make a fair point. I take back what I said to some extent, it definitely can be a bad thing, yes.
Bro, I didn't even know that he went after ChadChad. Her videos are so well done and hilarious, and she is someone who blew up so fast because she knows how to make stuff funny and relatable. That was just an uncalled for attack :(
@@darlenetroise7079 "Gas chamber for these fucks" 💀 I agree those are sick fucks but at the very least it shows he still an edgy teen who'd soon grow out of his Sneako phase
Wow, his attack on Chad Chad made me feel physically nauseous. Thanks for your coverage, it’s always great to watch your content and get the facts on everything.
@@purpleseer5323 dude its hilarious, yes its a threat but Sneako is so Vain glorious and insecure it just makes him look stupid same with Tate they are both stupid grifters.
@chillaxer8273 if that's your idea of comedy and funny jokes then your standards are in the fucking dirt. Might wanna go dig those back out, you need them
