Okqay ... what are these 'private issues' exactly? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for helping people buuuut ... there's A LOT off stuff people tend to do that forbids any help to be received
@@Oroberus yeah I know what to mean, I lot of shady stuff out there. I'm not sure what to say because I don't want to put his personal stuff out there. He didn't ask for this, I did this on my own so I guess it's possible he made it up but I really don't think that's the case because he wouldn't have anything to gain from it?
I personally prefer the "mismatched tournament prize set", that includes Sturgian helmet, Vlandian armor and Batanian shoulder pieces and together makes you look like a rugby player.
Because I often run a build that's not just great for tournaments, I found in the early days of this game that that was PRECISELY my best option. Rusty chainmail chausses ftw. If I'm "being real," it might also bear mentioning that I kinda suck at parrying and chamber blocks so. But I can run in a circle and bash with a two hander with the best, and my horse archer skillz aren't too bad compared to most people I see.
Vlandia has such cool armors that their troops don’t wear, imagine banner knights with actual shoulder armor, that would look so much more intimidating than a green cape. Or how the voulgiers only have a scarf
Wow what an amazing collaboration! I really want to encourage people to donate- seriously think of how many thousands of hours Flesson put into helping us all out with info! Even 2$ is helpful bc it really adds up! Let's smash 1500$!!!
Hey, glad to see you're back! I'm a loot goblin who doesn't like to spend money on gear (hardly ever), so I just equip the best of whatever the enemies drop (high Roguery ftw). I play on easier difficulties anyway so personal protection is less of an issue. not the most useful video for me personally, but I appreciate the work that went into it. definitely interesting to see someone test the effects of armor firsthand though. also yes, let's give Flesson a hand. thanks for setting up the fundraiser.
Thanks! It's been a long time it feels like. Lol I know the feeling, my last campaign was 90% looted gear too. It's a lot of fun trying to collect a good set that way :) For sure, he really does deserve it.
22:43 Strat Gaming: "It's difficult to fight while outnumbered." Also Strat Gaming in previous videos: "This is me killing 20 gang members on day #1 while naked!"
In my experience, big armor values are more worth it than the tests here would make it seem, since the player would most often be fighting troops that are tier 2-4, outfitted with weaker ranged weapons and mainly cut-damage melee weapons, like swords and axes. The diminishing returns would only show themselves when fighting rarer tier 5, 6 troops or enemy nobles. I definitely tend to choose form over function with armor and love all the mail hauberks, especially the Sturgian ones with the golden/bronze rings and lamellar covering the torso. It's just the right amount of real-looking protection and lavish style that would befit a warlord. All the Vlandian helmets work perfect for this end, with their mail and face masks.
truly a Great video of 2 great RU-vid presenters , thank you for the amount of work you both have contributed to this video...Flesson19 and Strat ..... its amazing when this level of harmony can produce this type combined ..........
It's not dimishing returns AT all in term of survivability : if you lose 5 less hp out of a 20 hp hit, that means you took 33% less damage. Adding the fact you have at most 200 hp it means you die in 14 hits rather than 10 (again around 33% more). But a lot of shots are grazing you going form 3 to 1 hp or better 6 to 1 : in thoses cases the increase is huge. Of course if you take couching damages your a gonner anyway because thoses lances are deadly (rightfully so).
Unrelated but the way you introduced flesson as the big bro in another video for some reason thought he was a bigger youtuber or something, randomly checked yalls subs and saw the difference, youre a good guy strat 🥂 showin love to smaller channels
Something I noticed about the Khuzait and Aserai is that a lot of their leg and arm armours are technically from other factions and so don't show up in shops, but their troops regularly wear them (Various mail and splint armours come to mind)
I watched it twice, first as a fan of Flesson19 and Strat Gaming videos. 12/10 :) Second time paying attention to details, like why does the best armor not give us more protection against missiles. I got some good armor and cant even lower my shield, to shout out orders to my troops, without risking that I take a shot for 40+ damage through my superhero helmet. I am now on the lookout for a Lordly helmet that would give me +8 armor. With such a super rare helmet I might only take 39 damage :) For people wondering, Lordly gives +8 to each stat on an armor piece.
The potential armor value if these have the lordly modifier is insane, but you couldn't really acquire the best in slot armors with the lordly tag, cycling towns is a crapshoot at best, even items that are usually in high supply (say 20-40 at most towns that sell them) it can take forever to intentionally find even 1 upgraded variant, let alone a lordly one. The most reliable way to get Lordly items is through the roguery skill, because in after battle loot, item modifiers are seen much more consistently, but that brings me back to the first point, many of the top tier armors are not worn by any units, like the "reinforced ornate pauldrons over scale" I dont believe are worn by anything, so they could never drop as battle loot, but some second best in slots do drop, and the lordly versions 2nd best items would still be far stronger than the best items default stats.
I found it very hard to find the lordly gear I wanted, led me to believe certain pieces can't even roll as lordly and nothing I could search online gave me any info on it at all... getting the best gear takes a bit of luck, getting the pieces to roll lordly is effectively impossible without min maxing your chances and grinding for hours. If it's even possible.
Just look out for Lordly Armor. Boots can go to 34 Armor, Arm to 32 Armor, Head to 57 Armor, Chest 24/22 and Body is like 52/22/26. Except Body and Head which are at 100-200k each. The Rest is mostly under 10k. The best I had was 57 Head 76 Body 76 Arm 60 Leg I felt like I had Damage Reduction on had to double Check after battle. I was on realistic... Arm and Leg is actually avaible at Day 200 already, just gotta be lucky. My favourite is still looted Bandit Gear that make u look like a mix of Searaider and Mountain Bandit.
I’ve managed to find the sturgian lamellar armor. It seems to outclass every other armor set in the game. The only armor I found that was better than it was the lordly version of itself.
thank you for this interesting and time intensiv video with the other bannerlord youtube god flessorn19. once i wandered around calradia i watched out for the best looking armor and i realized some parts are very rare. at least i now know that it depends on the armor and weapon smith but what happens if you have in every city a weapon and armor smith? you know, buying 2 workshops, changig the production and selling them again and so on. my suggestion: the price for iron will get a massive boost and not every shop will be producing. ' so what is the most effective way to get those super rare tier 6 armor pieces?
I dont play since a bit of time, but i remember after a battle against Sturgians, a drop of a "god" saddle (cant remember the name). Was very light and bring more armor than the cataphract. No mods, history mode and more than 600 days
Interesting, I've seen a few in the cheat menu that are above the cata armor, but I've not been able to find them in game. It makes sense that they would be a rare loot drop!
Cool video, lots of work, thank you. I dunno about these parameters though. Wouldn't it change from game to game based on what loot caravans move around? (Not sure about Lords) I'm pretty sure that i've found a complete cataphract set in the Empire lands by lategame.
Thanks for watching! So the armor sets are made at towns when they have enough materials to do so. If they have a smithy it's even more likely to be made, but even a town without one can do it, but they still need to materials (iron, leather, hardwood). So in this case, when we bought everything from the towns, they didn't have it in stock which means it was either consumed by the town (prosperity consumes goods including gear) or it wasn't made due to lack of resources.
Although damage testing was limited, considering the difference in damage between the armor values I guess my biggest take-away is that I should just have my armor looking bad-ass.
I hate how the weight of armour basically does nothing to speed. it feels so much different when you have armour compared to not wearing armour. can Usain Bolt run 44.72km/h with an additional 30kgs? this is bad for not only immersion, but from a gameplay standpoint because It doesn't matter if you have heavy armour or not. also I also love the viking goggled spectecal helmet too. infact, I have 1 myself. what do you think of the goggled cataphract helmet tho
But leather strips over padded robe better civilian gear for a body part then thick briganrine vest (actually i think it both not suppose be in civilian category. Gap just to high for other contenders). And ima sure u can get better gear on these stages as well but i guess u have that in mind. Good video either way.
These were the best ones we could find based on what was being produced. Do you recall which culture sells that armor piece? I'll do some research and see if I can get the towns to make it :)
@@Strat-Guides But you did show it lol. It was on the Aserai medium armor. Its the Aserai Infantry tier 4 bodyarmor. "Leather Strips over Padded Robe".
@@agroplode9680 yeah, that's why i was surprised. They showing it and... then here imperial stuff on civilian set. Which is better then others... but not overall.
@Strat Gaming and u actually showing it i believe in bow skill or perk guide as a peace of best civilian armor set. Probably from cheat trade. But thats a problem with this guide overall. This is showing best gear u find in towns, not best gear town actually can produce. I do believe stages not that important. Town start creating even ultra armor parts from beginning if they have supply of iron cause artisan workshop work that way. But how to investigate it? Sit in town 50-100 days buying all stuff before dayli tick happens when citizen consume everything from market and do this with each town simultaneosly?
I know it's just a game, but limb shots would absolutely ruin you in a fight. The devs just know having a game where the player could cripple the entire army by causing as much leg, foot, and toe damage as possible wouldn't be very fun.
Would have been cool to also show the actual best armor sets for late game including things you can only get from arena like the crowned helm. like it feels dirty to wear something thats not tier 6 unless it has a lord buff.
Good point! We were trying to limit our armor sets to things we could buy in towns, but you're right about the tournament prizes and even some rare drops from battle.
@@Strat-Guides its always good to have a concise scope. it was also interesting to see the RNG in action for town spawns over time. But there might be room for a part 2 though with some of your or flessons mix and matched favorites ;p
I did not see the male or so for the top cav for the empire and other equipment peaces as far as I seen don't show up at all unless you get lucky and loot it off someone in the battlefield otherwise don't appear in the market place. and this is as much as i saw supplying the smithies there top grade metals in the game along with the materials to make the things to. hopefully at some point we can craft armors as well for getting the top grade armor one can trully use in battle.
so just because a set of armor can be purchased in a town that is within a culture's borders, that means it is that culture's armor set? some of these seem mixed and matched, so i guess caravans are moving them around. the names of the armors do not indicate a culture. i often see a "set" as - "Lamellar" or "Chain" or "Scaled", which appear in different cultures equally
I really wish they hadn't changed the female armor to look so busty. All the waists suck into their body and the chest sticks out oddly. I remember when I first played the armor looked way more realistic on women.
Does excellent quality equipment (with the best stats or close to it) require any deadline or "criteria" to be commercially available? For example, time spent in the game, character level or clan tier? Or technically the player just needs luck to find the ideal equipment for sale right from the start?
The amount of work you put in this video is amazing for sure. Only it's kinda pointless IMO. First of all, do you really buy armor? 5-10 fights against high-tier parties and you are all set. Fight the cultures you want the armor from. Seriously, paying price of 2 workshops for a chest piece? Definitely no for me. Second, most people play with mods, and those either alter the numbers, or add entirely new pieces. So... I don't know. Pointless.
Heavy Scale Armor over Mail Hauberk outperforms the Mastercrafted Southern armor. It has 5 less leg armor, but has 6 more body armor. It also weighs 18.2 as opposed to the Southern armor's 23.8. Edit: Also, it's significantly cheaper. 133529 vs 210686.
Just wanted to say thank you for being not just a great content creator/tester but an empathetic human being who went out of his way to start a positive chain reaction. I'm new to all of this and am allergic to technology (it embarrassingly took me forever to find out where to go to begin typing this dang comment) - but when I went to the gofundme page to contribute, I was stunned to see it already completed. Tying in the community like that just goes to show how much of an impact creators like you and Flesson have on other peoples' lives even if it's just to share our love/hobby for games. I wish you all the best and I hope you pull through these rough times, that this positivity vastly outweighs the negative. Support, no matter the form, will always go a long long way. Thoroughly tried and tested xD. I wish everybody happy holidays and a happy new year, may 2023 hitch off to a lovely start to forget a bummer end... And cheers to more fantastic content/games! TLDR; cheesy AF, ya'll are fucking amazing people.
I appreciate you leaving the feedback on this! I know a lot of people feel the same way as you, but it's always nice to hear it out loud (or read it, you know what I mean lol). The Bannerlord community really pulled this one off and the timing was perfect, he got the funds well before the holidays and I imagine was a huge stress-relief for him. Thank you for the kind words! Yeah the end of this year has been a disaster for me lol I have posted 2 videos since November 1st and my channel tanked a bit, but I'm glad it had enough steam to help Flesson out. 2023 is going to be huge I think, I've got some really big changes in store :)
U can actually get unlimited money by just marrying (do the rizzlines so its very cheap) then make it that only u can survive then unstrip her/him of the armor after that make it run into hideout with u any bandit party (your welcome😉)
I am a sucker for the t6 sturgian and khuzait helmet. They look sick af. The best body armor is actually the Empire's Heavy Scale Armor Over Mail Hauberk (57/20/16) and Empire's Lamellar wih Scale Skirt as a very close second (52/23/16) but arguably more sick. The best horse I feel is the Asaligat (63/82/245). Wadar Hotblood (68/78/230)is amazing but only beats the Asaligat in speed.
As disappointing as the 2 second difference in the armor weight race, it could be that mobility armor sets affect acceleration and maneuverability in combat much more than maximum speed, which is arguably more important in a fight.
Perhaps they might have made it some kind of curve, making it matter more early on then less and less with more armor. To prevent players from going 0 speed and writing angry post on forum.
@@Strat-Guides Yeah make the race 10 times shorter and see what happens. Precise measurement is the tricky part here, might need a mod or something to help
It is true but not at the same time, perhaps the speed was limited but, in real history the armor generally did not impede my mobility, for example the medieval plate armor was A work of art mechanically, totally Maneuverable, the Romans for example, the loriga segmentata, and their arm guards were articulated..for which, the armor adds weight and limits your speed, but not so much your mobility, maybe vision (full helmet) anyway, Greetings
@@jaymorrison2419 so that means if i want to have for example the ornate desert battle crown i need to focus on figthing aserai nobles, specific unquid or in case of the khuzait battlecrown monchug
>Chapters will be added in a couple days, until then please watch the whole video :D it's been a few days and I see you leave me no choice hmpf hmpf 0:00 - Intro 0:10 - HELP FLESSON19 0:49 - Overview 1:13 - Aserai 2:16 - Battania 3:04 - Empire 3:46 - Khuzait 4:28 - Sturgia 5:09 - Vlandia 5:54 - EARLY GAME RECAP 7:10 - Aserai 8:23 - Battania 9:12 - Empire 9:58 - Khuzait 10:43 - Sturgia 11:27 - Vlandia 12:10 - MID GAME RECAP 13:43 - Aserai 14:52 - Battania 15:49 - Empire 16:52 - Khuzait 17:49 - Sturgia 18:41 - Vlandia 19:33 - LATE GAME RECAP 20:39 - Final Thoughts 22:08 - Bonus Build: Wimp Civilian Set 23:15 - Bonus Build: Daddy's Performance Set 24:41 - Bonus Build: Sigma Grindset Set (GetReal™Edition)
@@Strat-Guides Heya man, hope you're spending the holidays well with your family. And while we are here, I want to thank you for all these videos, it's been real fun to have some spreadsheet gaming and 𝓶𝓪𝓹 𝓹𝓸𝓻𝓷 videos to go along with my 4th playthrough :)
@@cavemann_ thanks man, I appreciate that :) yeah it's mostly been watching the kids and helping out parents while they recover from that RSV crap that we were dealing with last month. But we're all doing much better so can't complain.
The best headpiece I've had was 56 armor. The scaled arm/leg armor also has an improved version, noble or something. I wish they added master weaponsmith and master armorsmith branches so that we could craft full gear.
worth mentioning "Lordly" pieces of armor. I have some mail boots and gloves that each have 30 armor value. One was battle loot, other from a shop. No mods, about day 300
arrows use piercing, which means the armor is only half as effective. the slashing weapons is where the armor really shines. blunt now doesn't fully ignore armor, but armor is negligible. this is why most weapons with slashing, piercing, and blunt has the damage values that they do. basically low damage blunt weapons are really good against armored opponents, slashing weapons are for low armor opponents, and piercing splits the difference.
"we compared each culture's armor sets" Except you didn't. You didn't keep culture's armor, wearing Huscarl boots with Asarai stuff, and mixing sets like wearing scale with cloth. I was expecting better, but you DID show relativly the same armor values for each set, so hats off for that, but it's nothing the wiki can't tell you.
The only thing i truly hate about this game, is the way that every NPC just NEVER stop going after you in combat scenarios. They're always right in your face, never leaving pockets of air.
I’d be curious to see the difference in damage from the first set of bow attacks on the late game armour. Running headlong into Fian Champions is always a bad idea, but it would be interesting to see how much damage you can absorb from low tier troops
with no aditional modifiers, the best armor (heavy one) is warlord helmet 54 and brigandine over hauberk from sturgia 94, battania scaled boots and gloves at 26 each and for shoulders either vlandian or aserai ones at 32 total. With a high enough roguery skill you can grind for the lordly ones but it`s not that much better than the standard ones. With these stats no one enemy can kill you, you`ll even survive couch lance attacks
Don't want to advertise another Bannerlord channel (hopefully SG don't mind) but LyonExodus is doing really good job and deep analysis on armor. Basically for foot troops only body and head armor is relevant. For cavalry, leg is somewhat important aswell but again - most blows, arrows and hits will go to body + head.
I made this video before learning that correct pronunciation lol I got a ton of comments on my KCD run and corrected it since then :) Thanks for the heads up!
Where do you get that brigandine chest for town armor? Looks vlandian which is annoying because they're all dead and thus I can't get the modifier stuff
I think you didn't do enough justice to minmaxing armor by saying about diminishing returns: players may assume there was an implication that getting hit by pierce damage with above average base damage (e.g. your bow testing) is way more common than it actually is in-game. Playing with very high hitpoints (220 and up) on main character and total armor modifier on foot, which, I assume, a lot of people will do in their playthrough granted Endurance's power and popularity, going 5 points up in armor still increases hits to kill even against hight base damage troops, such as shock infantry. And it doesn't end there, because, as we go down the tiers of troops you're likely to meet on the battlefield, higher armor values keep pushing damage taken into negligible amounts: range of damage taken from common low damage output troops (such as militia) can vary from as high as 8 to as low as 3 just within tier 6 armor sets, which nearly triples our survivability. And, as mainly Sturgia player, I can attest that, if I get hit and combat and look at the incoming damage value, there's an above 80% chance I'll see a "-3" in easy to come by minmax armor with no prefix modifiers.
Yeah I know what you mean, my biggest issue was time constraint because it was already pushing 30 minutes long. In the next armor video I'll be focusing exclusively on real world implications of armor like you describe - early game armor vs early, mid and late weapons and late armor vs early mid and late weapons etc.
I did some testing right now (accounting for different attack and different body parts and probabiulty of being hit to different parts). So, for piercing damage average of 36-38 armor halves damage. Average of 69 armor (best gear)decreases it further 1.67 percents. Averaged low tier hit of 58.5 (to naked armor) is reduced by superb armor to average of 12.5 (accouning for different body parts). High tier bow hit of average 125 (to naked armor) is reduced to 28 (accounting for different body parts). From gameplay perspective, armor requires no buffs, I think.
In the next one i'll be covering that. I wanted to use only the regular armor pieces so it would be easier to compare them and see which ones were better without being modified.
Thanks for the video Strat! Greatly appreciated! Quick question tho: why do you prefer and rank higher the Mastercrafted Southhern Scale Over Chain Hauberk and not Heavy Scale Armor Over Mail Hauberk? The HSAOMH has a higer body and leg rating to the MSSOCH ( 57/16/20 vs 51/25/16)
Great question! So we put these sets together based on what was available so it's not a true min/max guide but more a realistic representation of what a campaign can look like. We didn't play 500 days but just used 200x speed to get there so it's not 100% accurate I guess, but we didn't want to just open up the cheat menu and dress people up :) It's a good point you bring up though and I agree with you.
@@Strat-Guides Awesome! Thanks for the clarification! :) Just wanted to know if there's a hidden quirk somewhere cause I go for the HSAOMH 100% of my playthroughs. Thanks again for the useful video and keep up the good work!
Lordly Lamellar Pauldrons weigh 5.0 body armor 24, arm armor 14. I'm also surprised for civilian the Fine Thick Brigandine Vest wt 4.5, BA39, AA13, LA 7, in Amprela for 5743 denar. Maybe later than you pulled data for this video. Funny I never find the Wadar Hotblood in the village of Wadar. Looking forward to some day when we can make or repair armor in the forge.
Lol that's true. I was just taking whatever companion was available and in some cases it was a female. It's all good, made for a good do you even lift bro moment :P
the fact you used tier 1 and 2 armours in the late game set completely invalidates all your results, really weird decision as no player would do that in game
Did you watching the setup for each test? We bought all the gear from each town owned by a specific culture and used those pieces to build the best armor set. We used what was available in game in a legit campaign, which is more valid than loading up the cheat menu and picking the best (lazy route). Also some cultures have terrible arm and leg armor and TW has a limit selection of arm and leg armor. They tend to add helmets, capes and chest armor, but not arm and leg. You're entitled to your own opinion, but I don't agree with your assessment that the whole guide is invalid.
@@Strat-Guides Sorry I only meant the late game results. I was just thinking about the scaling of the amours and if they end up better or worse in the late game. Comparing apples to oranges doesn't make sense to me. I understand the way you did the whole thing to give some semblance of realism. I just think even flat comparing tier 1 armours for early game, tier 3 or 4 for mid game and the only tier 6 for late game. Or even just forget what I said and add another tier for completely maxed out armour stats no matter the grind. I think that's main thing I was thinking before watching the video and was just confused when you stopped seemingly before the finish line. Appreciate your content, sorry for the weird hostility that the internet facilitates sometimes.
Is the Wadar Hotblood really better than the Asaligat? 5 more speed in exchange for 4 maneuver and 15 HP, they're incredibly similar, but the HP always appealed more to me. You say both "hands down best mountin Bannerlord" as well as "Best on the market" so, I'm not sure if you're referring to only mounts that can be purchased or not.
The problem with those statements is they are usually subjective. I still include them because it's what most people want to see, but if I was objective then I would break it up into different categories - maneuver is probably best for mounted archery, charge damage and HP for charging foot troops and horse speed for cav vs cav combat. But that's how RU-vid works lol gotta do what you gotta do :P
So all of the armor pieces were purchased in game during an actual campaign, so if something was missing it's because it wasn't being produced for some reason. I noticed some cultures were getting hammered and I think they were starving a bit for materials to make the good stuff.
Hey, I've been doing a playthrough and started a kingdom before I was ready. I don't know what to do now, I've been stuck getting into wars with 1000 power, and now I'm paying 5k a day to other kingdoms so they won't rape me. If there's a discord or anything that can help me please god, I've spent like 25 hours on this playthrough, I don't want to have to throw it away
The link to the discord is in the description! Yeah that's a tough spot, I usually recommend saving up tons of cash before starting a kingdom so you can pay for peace until you expand enough through the weakest kingdom.
Strat i just got into bannerlord and i have to say, your videos are a big help. I do have two questions for you though. 1. how do i use that overhead camera you use in your formation videos; is it just a custom battle thing, a mod, or did I just miss a setting? 2. If I get into a massive fight and I lose a bunch of my high level troops, how do I replace them? Do i have to go around grabbing recruits from villages all over again? I haven't gotten to late game yet, and haven't really touched settlements at all, is it something in there?
Hi Tyler! The overhead camera is a mod called RTS Camera mod. Generally high level troops shouldn't be dying too much - maybe at most 20 - 30% of the ones that go down will die and even less if you have a good surgeon. Best way to get more is to take them from a garrison. Next best it to recruit prisoners and only keep higher tier ones. Otherwise, just going around and leveling them up. If you're crashing your army into equal battles where high losses are expected, you might want to rethink you engagements a bit more. It's good to fight a few close battles from time to time, but generally you want to take easy fights to preserve your ranks.
Thank you! I'm going to do a follow up to this one in the future and go heavy into damage testing. I can use the min/max armor pieces for the late game damage testing then :)
well strat, this is nice - but Id like to see a best armour by appearance choices too. Embrace the Fashion lord! As you say the difference between super high and mid tier values is minimal in terms of protection, so - may as well concentrate on being dapper as hell. There are some really nice cross culture armour sets that look like they were meant to be worn together. EG: scale armour from batania + aserai work wonderfully.
