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The Bastards Who Killed Pat Tillman | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
Robert is joined by Joe Kassabian to discuss the death of Pat Tillman.
Original Air Date: July 23, 2020
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There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.
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Комментарии : 82   
@johnkeller2952
@johnkeller2952 8 месяцев назад
This whole thing just made me feel dead inside. I regret having been in the army
@seancain2216
@seancain2216 Год назад
"Which is a fair statement when you realize that you're playing football and The Forever War just kicked off." Nice send up for Joe Haldeman.
@Zetsubou738
@Zetsubou738 Год назад
Very in depth, great work.
@BehindTheBastards
@BehindTheBastards Год назад
Thanks for listening!
@function0077
@function0077 2 месяца назад
So basically if Pat Tillman had survived Iraq, and his brother hadn't, Pat Tillman would've become Mark Wahlberg in the movie Shooter. I love Chapo Trap House's review of the movie Shooter.
@garrettlogue4249
@garrettlogue4249 Год назад
I'm glad Joe could join you via Motorola walkie-talkie.
@Erisblackstone
@Erisblackstone Год назад
Via payphone
@JohnsonCocker
@JohnsonCocker Год назад
Via 2 soup cans attached with a string
@chellybub
@chellybub Год назад
I never knew this about Cpl. Tillman, I remember even hearing about this paragon in Australia. How insane... Very much what I would expect from the Bush administration.
@KaiTenSatsuma
@KaiTenSatsuma Год назад
I think the story broke a loooong time back, like 2010 or so, but the extra details here just make it *_so much worse_* I wasn't aware of the Bush Administration's Goebbels type Propagandist, for example. The *_One_* differentiating factor from the story as I recall it was that I think that it was originally framed as a conspiracy, whereas here it's just blind panicked spray and pray.
@WindupCrow
@WindupCrow 11 месяцев назад
The Tillman Story, an early documentary about it from 2010 was in fairly regular rotation on SBS for a while and it's how I first heard about it. Probably still a good watch but there's likely something more in-depth these days
@John-qv5ux
@John-qv5ux Год назад
Glad to see that Joe Kassabian was able to call in by AN/PRC-77 direct from the Lions Led By Donkeys bunker.
@kilakr13
@kilakr13 2 месяца назад
Ah...the old prick
@KaiTenSatsuma
@KaiTenSatsuma Год назад
37:00 - "It would be seen as this guy wasting money" *_Even at this particular stage of the invasion that was a ridiculous thing to be concerned about, "Saving Money" was already a long lost fight here_*
@justcommenting4981
@justcommenting4981 Год назад
That money is for Haliburton. I do kind of wonder if that's a real performance metric or just bullshit that is internalized by the command structure as one of their only metrics for success in a meaningless endeavor.
@YourBodyLab
@YourBodyLab Месяц назад
The name of native woman you’re referring to is Lori Ann Piestewa. There is a mountain and popular trail named after her in PHX.
@GilTheDragon
@GilTheDragon 8 месяцев назад
oh this is tragic. such a fucking waste, such a tragedy that he trusted (believed?) in the Nation and the State, which ultimately did nothing to earn that trust. what a fucking shame
@zeitgeistx5239
@zeitgeistx5239 9 месяцев назад
I love the butt hurt Fox News viewers realizing they knew nothing about the Pat Tillman saga. Tillman was incredibly disillusioned by the war and contacting someone that is known for writing about American imperialism.
@amazinkay4512
@amazinkay4512 6 месяцев назад
Oh yes it's those damn Fox News guys... Not those mouth breathing MSNBC viewers or those "educated" CNN intellectuals 😂
@stinkytoy
@stinkytoy 3 месяца назад
​@@amazinkay4512 Surely you understand that the truth about Tillman would be more upsetting to right wingers than left wingers...right? Which party has spent the last two decades reminding us all with stickers and banners to "Support Our Troops"? And which party wanted to crucify Kaepernick for daring to not do the pledge of allegiance, since that somehow was a direct attack on our veterans and war dead? What even is your point in bringing up MSNBC and CNN? Just a whataboutism because you have nothing to actually say?
@MidwstMakr
@MidwstMakr 3 месяца назад
Did you watch the video at all?​@@amazinkay4512
@someone_stole_my_handle
@someone_stole_my_handle 10 месяцев назад
Joe is so dedicated to what he does that he took some time out of his vacation to the bottom of the Mariana trenche to call in
@kansasgirl8371
@kansasgirl8371 Месяц назад
FYI, “people on the left” are military families too. We understand the assignment, the pressure, the sacrifice
@noahsabin7386
@noahsabin7386 5 месяцев назад
The amount of real life events which foreshadowed his death and faux martyrdom is actually kind of insane.
@RobertCarroll-by1re
@RobertCarroll-by1re Месяц назад
The military even burned his personal property rather then sending it to his family.
@andrewweaver2517
@andrewweaver2517 Год назад
Excellent intro
@stephanieharbin7989
@stephanieharbin7989 6 месяцев назад
Your comments about Jessica Lynch are grossly incorrect. Check her interview with Andy Stumpf- Cleared Hot #45
@andrewweaver2517
@andrewweaver2517 Год назад
The intro is not as good as Hitler! But its good.
@zachthompson9976
@zachthompson9976 8 месяцев назад
Fucking wow. The whole climate after 911 was just so disgusting. I was in the 7th grade at the time and I can remember them showing us the news footage of Iraq being bombed, DURING SCHOOL. I didn't fully realize how gross it all was at the time, I was influenced greatly by the propaganda. I remember feeling pride watching the footage. It wasn't till high-school when I got in an argument with a classmate after they said we should just carpet bomb the entire middle east that I began to realize just how fucked up it all was. Unfortunately many never had a moment like this 😮‍💨
@thejason755
@thejason755 3 месяца назад
It was gross. I was in grade elven in a canadian high school then, and the vibe was very much like “war, war, war, xD”. I wish our adults at the time knew it was gonna be a forever war. I’m not sure it would have changed anything, but in retrospect it would have been nice for someone to have thought it at the time.
@zachthompson9976
@zachthompson9976 3 месяца назад
@thejason755 It's super interesting that the climate was so similar in Canada. I wouldn't have guessed that. What was the outrage? Was it like "how dare they attack our allies" or so close to us? Or was it mostly just racism that had Canadians screaming for blood just like Americans?
@thejason755
@thejason755 3 месяца назад
@@zachthompson9976 at the time i assumed it was because we had something of an american sycophant in office. So you’d see people of the same political persuasion go along with it, because if the us was going to war surely it was the right thing to do.
@arthurmorgan7086
@arthurmorgan7086 Месяц назад
​@zachthompson9976 It was probably the Canadians thinking these goat husband could attack them next
@anselmenator
@anselmenator Месяц назад
What? They don't award a silver star for "extraordinary courage in the face of friendly fire"?
@Cautela
@Cautela 24 дня назад
I was in the AOR at the time this happened, I did extensive research on it because, like Pat Tillman, I also lack a belief in a god or gods so it was important for me. I was not as outspoken about it as he was, but I can't help but think his atheism had a significant role in the fratricide...
@Jay-zc7iq
@Jay-zc7iq Месяц назад
“ I’m pat fucking Tillman “ Brass flies … Tillman takes his last breath Rip pat
@Fox-419
@Fox-419 6 месяцев назад
Lions Led By Donkeys is a 5 star podcast, give them a listen if you enjoy learning history :3
@tongpangaonok3184
@tongpangaonok3184 3 месяца назад
The US army and politicians treat soilders like shit, yet they join the army
@FakeSchrodingersCat
@FakeSchrodingersCat 2 месяца назад
Politicians join the army?
@mkmcrevy
@mkmcrevy 5 месяцев назад
Um. PDT.
@heralds
@heralds 2 месяца назад
One of the worst things is going to ASU and the veterans center is called like, the Pat Tillman center and it makes me mad as hell
@TheBereangirl
@TheBereangirl Месяц назад
Well this sucks. I would like to think that Pat died by conspiracy of a different kind: that he knew of the US's protection and propagation of Big Pharma's opium poppies and was going to say something. "Fratricide"...so many questions...his journal is so important...SO important! As a mom, and genuine Christian, I weep for Pat's momma, Mary, and how her son and her family was treated.😭💔
@KAHOOSIER
@KAHOOSIER 2 месяца назад
That isn’t the entire story and you have to know that.
@jaemarcus4268
@jaemarcus4268 2 месяца назад
🤨Gossip guys..?Get a room. WTF fan boys why are you on his jock strap? just get to the story and get past his looks. That's shallow and weird . No one is that perfect to worship .,
@nosuchperson5578
@nosuchperson5578 Месяц назад
lmao what are you a child
@GarrettBradfordTX
@GarrettBradfordTX 11 месяцев назад
Highly shameful to call him “woke” especially now days. He sounds like a very normal young American and his political views would likely evolve. You are doing the same thing trump did, co opting his heroism to make some political point.
@zeitgeistx5239
@zeitgeistx5239 9 месяцев назад
He was literally emailing Noam Chomsky when he died. The guy who is famous for writing about how evil America is. This has been confirmed by Chomsky and Tillman’s family. Tillman is woke because he realized the evils of American imperialism, our insatiable blood lust.
@Supahdave1000
@Supahdave1000 7 месяцев назад
Of course the dumbest opinion on this comment thread would come from someone who would have the state of texas in their account name.
@billbrown8166
@billbrown8166 7 месяцев назад
Why do you guys hate your country so much? You do know you can move, right? Go.
@Supahdave1000
@Supahdave1000 7 месяцев назад
If you cannot hear criticism, you don't love something; you worship it. The reason why they stay is to make the country better, so losers like you don't get to control the fate of others.
@thomaswillard6267
@thomaswillard6267 5 месяцев назад
Actually they can't, a repeated criticism made within the show is how people cannot just leave the USA because of various economic hurdles in their way. You are not free, stop believing the lies of dead men who would have enslaved you
@rodneysmith873
@rodneysmith873 4 месяца назад
Why are you so stupid? You know you can learn things right?
@TheBereangirl
@TheBereangirl Месяц назад
@billbrown8166 why do you assume that these men hate the U.S.? They are telling the truth about the bastards in the military who hate the U.S., but love themselves, and money; not the troops - not the American people. U.S. troops, like all soldiers, are expendable cannon fodder, a means to an end: making and laundering money and drugs for their country. Those military brass bastards who lie in order to keep the ol' gravy train; their well greased war machine running, should be exposed as the war criminals they are. So these men should stay in the U.S. and exercise their right of freedom of speech. That's how you show your love for your country, you honor the fallen by telling the truth about what really happened to them, no matter how ugly it is. Poor Pat. He never got the chance to repent - he found out that God is real the worst way possible. He most definitely isn't resting in peace - he is not in a better place. That's the sad and horrible truth.😩😭
@anonihme5142
@anonihme5142 20 дней назад
did facts hurt your feelings cupcake? loving your country shouldn’t stop you from calling out its BS, or supporting those who do…
@stephanietabor753
@stephanietabor753 Год назад
Hmmm…was very interested in listening to your program. You lost all credibility when you started spewing your anti-America propaganda. Shame on you, but at least I now know which video to never listen to or share again.
@oMaJoJ
@oMaJoJ Год назад
muh anti america propaganda the biggest babies around
@speakergreene8269
@speakergreene8269 Год назад
cringe
@patrickryan7829
@patrickryan7829 Год назад
If you cannot hear criticism you don't love something you worship it. I want my home to be better. I wish Tillman could have been a leader not a martyr.
@winkythemagicpixie5637
@winkythemagicpixie5637 Год назад
If you listened to this and came away with "anti American propaganda" then lady,YOURE THE FUCKIN PROBLEM
@Zetsubou738
@Zetsubou738 Год назад
Very insecure.
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