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Matt Reeves' The Batman finally released to give us a new Batman in form of Robert Pattinson. And despite the insane expectations, it still managed to deliver, getting great a great reception from audiences and making loads of money at the box office despite tough circumstances. Which isn't that surprising because it draws a lot from one of the greatest murder mystery detective thrillers, David Fincher's Se7en. I touched on Se7en back in the day in hopes that The Batman would learn a few key things from it, and a lot of it did learn, but other things it did differently. So today, let's look at The Batman in comparison to my earlier points about Se7en and see what it follows and what it does differently and why. Here's a few tips to building a great murder mystery detective thriller movie.
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The Batman (2021)
From Warner Bros. Pictures comes “The Batman,” with director Matt Reeves (the “Planet of the Apes” films) at the helm and with Robert Pattinson (“Tenet,” “The Lighthouse,” “Good Time”) starring as Gotham City’s vigilante detective, Batman, and billionaire Bruce Wayne. The continuing saga of Batman finds Bruce Wayne during his second year of secretly fighting crime in Gotham City. As he uncovers a sinister plot that has some connection with his family, Bruce as Batman faces new enemies like the Riddler and the Penguin while discovering an ambiguous ally in Selina Kyle, also known as Catwoman.
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Se7en, Seven (1995)
Director David Fincher's dark, stylish thriller ranks as one of the decade's most influential box-office successes. The film concerns Det. William Somerset (Morgan Freeman), a homicide specialist just one week from a well-deserved retirement. But Somerset's retirement must wait for one last case, for which he is teamed with young hotshot David Mills (Brad Pitt), the fiery detective set to replace him at the end of the week. Mills has talked his reluctant wife, Tracy (Gwyneth Paltrow), into moving to the big city so that he can tackle Batman ending scene joker everything wrong with the batman honest trailer batman watch full movie online free 4k clip hd batman batmobile chase batman videos batman 2 sequel batman wingsuit batman only action batman best moments important cases, but his first and Somerset's last are more than either man has bargained for. A diabolical serial killer is staging grisly murders, choosing victims representing the seven deadly sins.

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@Filmento
@Filmento 2 года назад
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@tubby1833
@tubby1833 2 года назад
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@christopherlyons4923
@christopherlyons4923 2 года назад
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@Edgelord-rn9he
@Edgelord-rn9he 2 года назад
5:40 The Riddler is Michael Reeves?
@redtiger8275
@redtiger8275 2 года назад
Don't worry man, we still look forward to your videos anytime a good/bad movie comes out
@ricardovillon1189
@ricardovillon1189 2 года назад
@@christopherlyons4923 I thought it was hilarious. I couldn't stop laughing while getting ready for work.
@TCT24
@TCT24 2 года назад
The opening scene where Bruce has his monologue, the music blasting, criminals fearing the shadow of the unknown, and then hearing Batman’s heavy footsteps walking, was a masterful scene. Absolute chills.
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 2 года назад
I think it was taken straight from Watchmen
@isaiahvoss
@isaiahvoss 2 года назад
@@LuisSierra42 That's what it reminds me of when I first saw it.
@justonejlking
@justonejlking 2 года назад
The movie was trash
@BrokenBellsLover22
@BrokenBellsLover22 2 года назад
@@justonejlking okay, why?
@ishaansharma8215
@ishaansharma8215 2 года назад
@@LuisSierra42 a movie has narration - iT WaS TaKeN fROm WaTcHmEN
@AlexHLSB97
@AlexHLSB97 2 года назад
I like the ending. It is framed as the city being just as damaged as Batman, and now he has to responsability to help it heal.
@errwhattheflip
@errwhattheflip 2 года назад
I like it as well, but Se7en's ending is objectively better imo
@emekos_
@emekos_ 2 года назад
Not only a responsibility to the city but to himself and the wisdom to know how to do it. Really good character building here
@zamsparkle6883
@zamsparkle6883 2 года назад
@@errwhattheflip isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?
@errwhattheflip
@errwhattheflip 2 года назад
@@zamsparkle6883 how so?
@zamsparkle6883
@zamsparkle6883 2 года назад
@@errwhattheflip Well if it is your opinion then it's not really objective, is it?
@XGlite015
@XGlite015 2 года назад
This is the Batman film on his way to becoming a great detective. Sure, the Riddler was smarter, but this is Batman in his earliest years, learning and building up experience. Even his fighting and gliding skills are still raw. Some people didn't like it because it doesn't have a lot of fighting and action scenes in it. Probably the people who didn't like Batman as a detective. But, some of the greatest Batman stories ever involve mystery and him being the world's greatest detective.
@peach_total
@peach_total 2 года назад
imo it also makes sense that he’s in the crime scenes hearing the cops talk because he’s NOT a cop, he’d get a call down from gordon only after gordon had been notified. he doesn’t have any special privileges beyond the trust of the one commissioner
@gtagamerz5353
@gtagamerz5353 2 года назад
I loved this movie so much, they weren't enough of actions, but when they were, they were so well done... The ambiance of the movie was the best.
@themightycongueror8383
@themightycongueror8383 2 года назад
Personally, I like it when there is a balance between the martial arts side of Batman, and the detective side, rather than one, or the other. The Arkham games do a great job of this, the combat in those games are so satisfying, but there are also several times where Batman solves a crime, uses detective vision, some other gadget, or just using his intellect to solve a problem. Some people get too hung up on him being the world's greatest detective, and forget the fact that him being a martial artist makes it more special. Their are hundreds of detective characters in fiction, but how many are also billionaires, a martial arts, and stealth expert, and wears a giant bat costume?
@errwhattheflip
@errwhattheflip 2 года назад
@@Elamado97 There were other things like ciphers, clues, and him trying to figure out Riddler's endgame. I think the movie does show the detective aspect pretty well
@daseguin
@daseguin 2 года назад
How was The Riddler smarter?!
@TimeBomb014X
@TimeBomb014X 2 года назад
I like the finale ofThe Batman, yes it's a spectacle but it made sense and naturally builds on how the movie portrayed Riddler. Batman inspired Riddler to take action , and Riddler then inspired the discarded people of Gotham to be vengeance and take out the anger on the people they saw as the elites. All which makes Batman realize that he has to be more than an angry orphan
@breendart134
@breendart134 Год назад
And in this regard, The Batman feels like it's in the same thematic universe as Joker (2019). Kinda cautionary tales about the anger of the disenfranchised and the wrong way to impose change.
@eightleggedanarchist
@eightleggedanarchist Год назад
Instead of a symbol of violence and vengeance, he became a symbol of hope, leading the people of Gotham out of the dark waters and into the light. The cinematography in this movie really is brilliant
@pepsiisbetterthancoke6283
@pepsiisbetterthancoke6283 2 года назад
This film made Gotham City burst into the screen in a way no other Batman live action film has and I was holding my breath the whole entire time when watching it in cinemas. Masterpiece.
@justonejlking
@justonejlking 2 года назад
😂😂
@pepsiisbetterthancoke6283
@pepsiisbetterthancoke6283 2 года назад
@@justonejlking I died a month and a half ago. I'm writing this from heaven, surprisingly holding my breath for 3 hours isn't too good for me.
@HishamA.N_Comicbroe
@HishamA.N_Comicbroe 2 года назад
@@pepsiisbetterthancoke6283 That dude's a troll. Also I agree on what you say about Gotham.
@octiveon2968
@octiveon2968 2 года назад
I’ve watched it two times now, I felt constantly depressed (?). The whole city was constantly raining or night, it matches Batman and it felt fitting for a crime ridden city but it made the city feel sort of uninteresting. Once I see how it’s all rainy and gray I’m interested and it looks good but if that’s all I see I’m going to want more.
@justonejlking
@justonejlking 2 года назад
@@HishamA.N_Comicbroe is that what you call people that don’t agree with you? What’s next?, let me guess I’m a bot?
@thekingzhaul5914
@thekingzhaul5914 2 года назад
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@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 2 года назад
he's becoming vengeance
@Sosuke_Aizen2.o
@Sosuke_Aizen2.o 2 года назад
@@LuisSierra42 Ghost Rider💀
@AnnoyingMoose
@AnnoyingMoose 2 года назад
Filmento is the RU-vidr we need but not the one we deserve.
@romusa10
@romusa10 2 года назад
Is it possible to learn this power?
@Sosuke_Aizen2.o
@Sosuke_Aizen2.o 2 года назад
@@romusa10 Talking Ben: *no*
@adityadas5820
@adityadas5820 2 года назад
The ending, although filled with spectacle, is also quite intimate imo. Like batman's whole ideology was turned upside down and by the end his core values were changed. I mean you couldn't get more intimate than that.
@danlorett2184
@danlorett2184 Год назад
I couldn't take it seriously. Batman spends the whole 2 hours getting outsmarted, outclassed, and just outplayed the entire movie. Hundreds of thousands are dead and Gotham is a literal disaster zone, and Batman, who has literally accomplished basically nothing and in fact, ended up HELPING the villain execute his plan... and he's sitting there blathering platitudes about how Gotham has "hope". Excuse me, WHAT? What hope? The Riddler just turned Gotham into New Orleans during Katrina x1000, killing hundreds of thousands of people and flooding the whole city. You, the city's "hero", not only managed not to even slow the villain down - you unwittingly HELPED him do this. It's just the most narcissistic thing I've ever seen. In fact, this Batman is likely LEGALLY guilty of thousands of counts of negligent homicide or manslaughter for his part in helping the Riddler. I'm fine with Batman not winning, but man, show me some GROWTH at least. Batman just gets blown out the WHOLE MOVIE, never succeeds at all, and at the end of the movie he's standing in the flooded wreckage of the city he's supposed to be protecting with thousands dead around him and he's monologuing about hope. Just stupid and disgusting.
@ishmaaelbloodreaper6395
@ishmaaelbloodreaper6395 Год назад
@@danlorett2184 I think a third act with a desperate fight to survive ending with a promise to be better is a good thing
@mandatory055
@mandatory055 Год назад
@@danlorett2184 where does it say hundreds of thousands are dead? how did Batman help the Riddler kill those people? the only time Batman actually unwittingly helped was in the death of Falcone, but the Riddler had set those bombs up before then, and their detonation had nothing to do with any of the murders.
@danlorett2184
@danlorett2184 Год назад
@@mandatory055 so you flood NYC (basically gotham) to the depth where not even the first floor of buildings is safe, and you DON'T think there's going to be massive casualties? Everybody stuck in traffic is now either floating (bad because if they get out, they get smushed) or their car is underwater and they have to risk it. EVERYONE just lost power. Even emergency power would be questionable in places with that much water. BTW, this happens late in the day. It's going to be nightfall and there's a city flooded with 15+ ft of water, millions of people trapped (because they got no warning unlike a storm) and there's no power AND it's now night. There's no way you get out of that situation without massive casualties.
@Darkseidsolosfiction
@Darkseidsolosfiction Год назад
@@danlorett2184 write a better story or shut up
@captaintryhard5891
@captaintryhard5891 Год назад
See, I loved the fact he didn't know what the tucker was, and that he didn't do much investigation himself. Bruce is still a rich elite who sees himself as above the rest, (makes sense when you see the idolized vision of his father and think about how intelligent he is) and his hatred for criminals blocks his ability to understand them. He learns that he cant let his rage and entitlement blind him. His mission hasn't changed, but he knows he has to be more than this to accomplish it. The final fall into the water for me was a great visual metaphor for him coming down to Earth, where the people he wants to protect actually needed him. He wasn't fighting a criminal when he risked his life at the end, he was just being a hero. Seems like this sets up for a more philanthropic older Bruce becoming who he thought his father was, and helping more people than he can as just Batman. This can be the start of his real secret identity as Bruce Wayne
@aryandairshad
@aryandairshad 2 года назад
I love how involved Batman is in this movie. In previous adaptation you'd probably see Batman solving crimes by his lonesome, in the Batcave, comfortable all by himself. But here he actually comes down to the crime scene, already brimming with cops. These scenes are some of my favorite from these movies because seeing him investigate amongst officers and forensics really adds to his presence and role as a detective.
@williamphillips24
@williamphillips24 2 года назад
The cops reacting to his presence was a realistic one too. Stand, stare, and question his presence.
@ibanez9179
@ibanez9179 2 года назад
@@williamphillips24 And it shows how awkward is to see man dressed as bat for police even batman himself feels awkward....in Nolan movies you don't feel that.
@mjl11
@mjl11 2 года назад
bro why didnt police take of his mask or why does he trust the police when theyre known to be corrupt. plus hes a vigilante, which is illegal and therefore its dumb to go in police territory. other than that good movie. just a superhero 7 remake.
@jw1219
@jw1219 2 года назад
​@@mjl11 Why didn't the police take off his mask? Simply put: because of fear, even the police feared Batman and didn't know exactly what were his intentions or capabilities. For all they knew, he could hurt or even kill anyone who messed with him. We know he would never do that willingly, but they didn't. One of the cops did try to take off his mask, though. After Batman was knocked out by an explosion in a certain point in the movie, but he woke up immediately and didn't take it very kindly. As for trusting the police, I'd say he trusted Gordon only, and merely tolerated the rest because he was forced to cooperate with them
@mjl11
@mjl11 2 года назад
@@jw1219 i get the fear thing from the criminals pov. The beginning of the movie with all the criminals looking at the sign was awesome. But why would police fear him. Hes on their side, hes human and hes overpowered at least 20 to 1. That was the only issue i had with the movie and the fact he looked at the clock exploding instead if running away. But i really enjoyed it. Way better than i expected and the beginning was every batman fan wet dream.
@justanothervoice2538
@justanothervoice2538 2 года назад
While you’re not completely wrong about The Batman’s finale, and I would never compare it to Seven’s, it’s very misunderstood. It’s not just a spectacle, it serves a major purposes in the story. It is where the real key difference between Batman and the Riddler becomes apparent, with Nashton unmasking himself as little more than a pathetic breaker lashing out, rather than a builder with any vision for Gotham as he’s made himself out to be. Driven home by the last goon stealing Batman’s line, he realizes this is what vengeance looks like and it’s not the solution. It shows Bruce why he needs to change, by showing just how far the idea he sparked has spread and how destructive it has become. The army of goons isn’t just there to be beaten up, they represent everything the Riddler stood for and emphasize that he’s become more than just one man who can be locked up. The twist of the movie was realizing that Batman himself inspired the Riddler and gave rise to this force of destruction, but he desperately tried to dismiss the revelation and shut it out by calling Nashton a pathetic psychopath. It took seeing this army of his followers touting his mantra to realize that what he started has become a force of destruction he can’t just beat down, as there will always be more; he needs to change what he stands for. It did hit personal, it’s just that it got lost in the spectacle a bit.
@glassofwater281
@glassofwater281 2 года назад
I have nothing to say but "well said"
@Missjunebugfreak
@Missjunebugfreak 2 года назад
Your analysis is spot on.
@shianeruu4359
@shianeruu4359 2 года назад
This
@-opresiet-1414
@-opresiet-1414 2 года назад
There are two things good about this comment. First is that it's a spot on analysis, the second that mine was the 69th like.
@luciusnguyen2449
@luciusnguyen2449 2 года назад
I agree with all of your points, the army of Riddler goon symbolizes that Batman has inspired violence on more than 1 person, and seeing one of them saying "I'm Vengence" as a call back to the beginning of the movie makes Batman change. However, Batman's character growth is the only good thing about the final act. The fact that they target Bella Real is really inconsistent with what the Riddler had done, Riddler's entire goal was to expose the truth about the corruption of Gotham and eliminate those who fed on the Renewal Fund. Bella Real is not even corrupted, flooding Gotham also causes innocent death as well. For the major part of the movie, Riddler's goal was to expose the truth but in the final act, his only goal was to cause chaos.
@blacknapalm2131
@blacknapalm2131 2 года назад
*I loved how stripped back everything was, the costumes, the sets, even the music. It felt like a return to what Batman always was, a gritty, noir detective story. Amazing performances across the board also* Possibly my favorite thing that I'm not sure everyone picked up on was how Riddlers kills were all based on REAL serial killers and murders, from the 'Zodiac' killer to the surreal 'bomb around the neck' from the 'Pizza delivery man bank robber' it grounded it in reality as truth is always stranger than fiction.
@timtam929
@timtam929 2 года назад
The sound design was probably my favourite part of this already great movie. The music, The theme that sounds every time Batman makes his entrance, the sound of his boots hitting the ground, the sound of that car's engine starting up, everything just sounded so good!
@yanjirujan193
@yanjirujan193 2 года назад
This movie didn't just have mystery to solve, but it also have a character to develop
@orarinnsnorrason4614
@orarinnsnorrason4614 2 года назад
Yes. And the first part they did pretty good. But in the second part I felt it was a failure.
@liebertjohann8524
@liebertjohann8524 2 года назад
@@orarinnsnorrason4614 how ?
@chrisquinn3377
@chrisquinn3377 2 года назад
Nah it never made me think I actually think the story was the weakest aspect
@felipecorpuz2476
@felipecorpuz2476 2 года назад
@@chrisquinn3377 explain
@orarinnsnorrason4614
@orarinnsnorrason4614 2 года назад
@@liebertjohann8524 By only showing Batman and barely touch on Bruce Wayne. Also his relationship with Alfred was weird.
@StageInTheSkyCreations
@StageInTheSkyCreations 2 года назад
@5:05, I appreciated that aspect of Batman's detective work in this movie because it fits with him still being young and learning. Yes, he knows a lot of the answers to riddles, but he's not omnipotent. Having someone point out that the tool is used to peel up carpets is a nice touch, because Batman is still humans....as opposed to a character like Sherlock Holmes, who we're supposed to believe knows everything about everything...except basic astronomy.
@whythishappend3019
@whythishappend3019 2 года назад
Tbh, that's the funniest shit ever "I'm smart as shit, I'm smarter than everyone else- wait- what the fuck is a star?"
@Eralen00
@Eralen00 2 года назад
and it makes sense that its a trade tool that would only really be familiar to someone in the working class. And bruce never really had to work to survive
@peach_total
@peach_total 2 года назад
this and he’s still a civilian. he’s showing up to these crime scenes last bc he’s not an actual cop/detective
@BasketCase420
@BasketCase420 2 года назад
I personally loved The Batman. I am so excited it's getting a sequel. I want Mr. Freeze or the Court of Owls.
@FooeyMcgooey
@FooeyMcgooey Год назад
The Court of Owls on the big screen will be a game changer in Batman cinema
@3ggh3ad
@3ggh3ad Год назад
if your doing a murder mystery professor pyg, holiday killer, calendar man, or zzazz would be good hush (they did mention elliot family in movie), court of owls would be great for a deep dive into the corruption of gotham. (maybe hints of rhas al ghul)
@theirongiants
@theirongiants Год назад
Court of Owls is way too big for a sequel
@jomcabanilla3732
@jomcabanilla3732 6 месяцев назад
they made a somewhat realistic joker. so i think him would be a good villain for the next batman movie
@UnknownDude95
@UnknownDude95 6 месяцев назад
​@@theirongiants what about Ra's Al Ghul?
@tungduong7995
@tungduong7995 2 года назад
12:24 in defense, The Dark Knight was actually built upon Batman Begin, in which we had chances to get to know the city. I thought about this in your previous video about Seven, too.
@consumetheliving
@consumetheliving 2 года назад
While nothing will top "the Box" climax, I still think that the ending here is effective - Batman cuts the power cord and falls into the water creating a nice "baptism/reborn" moment. Especially when you see that beautiful top-down shot of him leading the people "into the light". Also, that same scene has several payoffs. I'm paraphrasing but, the last riddle tells Batman to "leed them or him into the light". This is a brilliant play on words, - part 1 - figuratively exposes Falcon then literally leads him into the spot where he is shot. Then you have the top-down shot of Batman leading Gotham into the light.
@consumetheliving
@consumetheliving 2 года назад
@GalacticGourd Yes sir, the progression of Vengence to Justice
@alypha737
@alypha737 2 года назад
@GalacticGourd lol this just proves this page has no fucking idea about films 😂😂 first they say john carter is boring, now he says batman is good? Its a piece of shit movie where everything happened cause 'it looks cool'. Lets throw batman here, falling, cause the shot'll look cool. Gtfoh, and the dialogue is dull af.. like a 7 year olds write them. To compare it to a masterful film like se7en is a slap to the balls.
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 2 года назад
Excellently put. This is also part of the reason I didn't take issue with the flood in the 3rd act, it's less of a pointless spectacle and more of a metaphorical plot device to show the old city being washed away and reborn as a city that's exposed tp its mistakes and will have the strength to rectify them because it has a symbol of hope now in Batman.
@consumetheliving
@consumetheliving 2 года назад
@@themadtitan7603 100%!!!!! We also get a nice splash of color at the end when Batman is carrying the girl. Further enforcing the warmth of security and hope for a new day.
@LegendaryLife
@LegendaryLife 2 года назад
Batman has the light himself and leeds them to high grounds not light. Please just for the sake of matching don't match useless words.
@creeperg983
@creeperg983 2 года назад
I really appreciate fleshed out versions of villains that were not present in the Dark Knight Trilogy like Penguin and Riddler in this new Batman saga. I hope to see more Batman villains without recent film adaptations given a good media portrayal through the sequel(s) to this movie. Maybe less of the supernatural ones until a bit later, though, unless they find a way to make that sort of thing work with this style of movie. Just give us more clever detective work and more gotham city to spend time in and I’d be satisfied.
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 2 года назад
Agreed, I love that the villains that weren't Joker actually got fleshed out and high quality characterization. With TDK trilogy, (with the exception of Two-Face) it felt like all the writing quality was devoted to Joker and Ra's and Bane got above serviceable portrayals or in the case of Scarecrow, had pretty spot-on adaptations but were wasted in the grand scheme of things. I won't mind more supernatural villains, Matt Reeves even expressed in them if they could be done in a grounded way; I could personally Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy working.
@bichlasagne3779
@bichlasagne3779 2 года назад
Gotta say that I'm not super thrilled the Joker is gonna be introduced, but I rly do hope they have other Batman villains make appearances. He's got such a huge rogues gallery of villains idk why they keep sticking with Joker.
@allenmurallo3730
@allenmurallo3730 2 года назад
The only thing I didn't like about Riddler in this is that his last name is Nashton instead of Nigma.
@buntado6
@buntado6 2 года назад
I like how the riddles were recontextualized, it always seemed like a silly gimmick, now they were coded instructions directed to who he thought would be his accomplice. His ego made him think he's alone because everyone's stupid, so "logically" the smartest guy in the city would understand and support what he was doing. It's still driven by his intellectual pride, but not to the extent of deliberately handicapping himself. Aside from that, the Penguin must be shown in his maniac desire to attain things he feels entitled to, in a way that separates him from the grounded mafia lords Falcone and Marooni. Many don't know how to do that since they see him as just another mobster wanting power, maybe "hoarder/socialite" would be the key words to understand him.
@thebenmidthun
@thebenmidthun 2 года назад
@@bichlasagne3779 maybe theyll keep doing what they did with the deleted scene. Batman just kinda uses him for information and ideas. Then he gets out for some finale or cliff hanger ending in the last movie
@tiagomagalhaes7032
@tiagomagalhaes7032 Год назад
In Dark Knight, not knowing the people is exactly what makes the ferrys act so great, because they become avatars of the audience. It's probably one of the strongest scenes ever in cinema because it is completely relatable. If we had seen that Gotham's population is full of diehard criminals or just pushed down civilians, then nothing in the scene would have worked. The big prisioner guy approaching the captain and using the clear threat of violance as he demands for the key ("give it to me and I will do what you should have done 10minutes ago") is a brilliant moment, because everyone assumes that he is going to kill the other boat (including the captain, who willing sacrifices his morals to live)...but then he throws key overboard, implying that he is a better person than the captain. At the same time you have the civilians boat, where people are openly discussing voting to kill people, which is how the average civilian would act, unable to be ruthless. We even see children on the ferry, which logically would mean that the clear solution should be to blow the prisoners ferry, but no one can do it. The military guy, that should all be about pragmatism, who is trained to kill, is unwilling to just kill some random people and is prepared to give it to the "only guy who has the balls to do what needs to be done", just some average working Joe, which is us! We all assume that "yeah, we would kill them all to live!" but in reality only a sociopath (like Joker) thinks that we are capable of killing random people.
@PJSO
@PJSO 2 года назад
Loved the crimescene walk throughs. Made it feel like the games and felt more immersive in the sense I was looking for every clue.
@Mistashiba
@Mistashiba 2 года назад
That shot of the riddler emerging was such a magnificently scary visual, really sets up the intense tone for the rest of the film.
@grzegorzmj4881
@grzegorzmj4881 2 года назад
True, it gave me a strong horror vibe.
@victoriadelacruz6183
@victoriadelacruz6183 2 года назад
until he starts spouting his monologue.
@alphaman5161
@alphaman5161 2 года назад
🧢
@epgamer1145
@epgamer1145 2 года назад
That scene alone was awesome. Watching him stand in the dark in the background was so damn good. Matt Reeves knows how to direct a master piece
@Indomitable_Alykat
@Indomitable_Alykat 2 года назад
100%
@skinnyman
@skinnyman 2 года назад
I really want Mr Freeze to be the villain in the sequel. I know they’re probably going to go for a more “realistic” villain like Joker, but they could do a gritty realistic Mr Freeze. His story is very emotionally heavy, I think it would work
@sunsetman22
@sunsetman22 2 года назад
we've already been down the "realistic" road before, something else would be appreciated
@claudiocontrerasgomez2949
@claudiocontrerasgomez2949 Год назад
It could be. But to me, the Mr. Freeze story from Batman TAS is too deep and true for a 3-4 year old Batman. We need Batman to face more trauma or villain just to build his empathy a little more just to ensure the sympathy towards Mr. Victor tragic story. Because i mean, Victor story from TAS is the most personal and greek tragedy-ish story of the entire Batman villain roster.
@fbussier80
@fbussier80 Год назад
Victor Zsasz's story would fit very well in the type of gritty realism.
@observant6953
@observant6953 2 года назад
Every time there is talk about Seven's ending I hope that people who haven't seen it won't get spoilered. I remember feeling the movie was okay (I was just a teenager without eyes for details), but the ending blew me away. Genius!
@kahlzun
@kahlzun Год назад
i mean, the movie is almost 30 years old now. At some point it becomes unrealistic to expect that you'll keep mum about spoilers in a film
@amberhernandez
@amberhernandez 10 месяцев назад
- He didn't _kill_ his father; he _was_ his father. - He was dead the whole time. He just didn't know it. - The other man isn't real. He becomes the other man to do the things he can't as himself. - He named himself after the horse. - He isn't hunting the killer. He _is_ the killer. Five random spoilers for anyone who comes across this comment down the line.
@kits9029
@kits9029 7 месяцев назад
@@amberhernandezyoure shit, good thing ill forget these by the time i decide to watch seven
@Dragonsecho3
@Dragonsecho3 2 года назад
you are right for the most part in that Batman mostly listens to other people solve things-he did solve some key things himself. He was the one that figured out the 'Drive' clue, the 'thumb drive', he found the UV words in the rat maze, he noticed the bat among rats to find the final letter. So as a detective he is on his way
@LycanVisuals
@LycanVisuals 2 года назад
Riddler being arrested was one of my favorite scenes. I hope he comes back and that they bring Scarecrow this time.
@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr
@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr 2 года назад
Honestly think scarecrow would definitely fit the atmosphere and vibe of “the Batman”
@glassofwater281
@glassofwater281 2 года назад
My main checklist is Bane, Scarecrow, and Two-Face. Black Mask could work too. I've heard Freeze is coming so that's exciting.
@dorianjareth9198
@dorianjareth9198 2 года назад
@@glassofwater281 Black Mask would be amazing, he'd fit right in
@YouCantDeleteDenzelL
@YouCantDeleteDenzelL 2 года назад
The thing about The Batman's third act though is that it isn't about "spectacle", it's the third logical piece of Riddler's puzzle. The Riddler's MO usually centers around his corrupt victims being exposed before being killed. At the beginning of the movie, the mayor is shown to be not a very good person before Riddler kills him. His next Savage, a corrupt police chief who he exposes for taking bribes from criminals and being on Falcone's payroll. Then the DA he exposes for having taken a mob rat under his wing, before exploding his head. Then Falcone he exposes as the rat, before sniping him. This all leads to Gotham itself being the final target, who he has just exposed as being part of the Maroni scandal, so he decides to flood the city in an attempt to "kill" it.
@rainier4258
@rainier4258 2 года назад
So logical that none of it was hinted toward for the first two acts of the movie lol They did the big ending because superhero movie. Imagine if Se7en ended with 40 people showing up out of nowhere dressing up in Kevin Spacey cosplay.
@dylana.9057
@dylana.9057 2 года назад
@GalacticGourd how did riddler know about martha wayne's history of mental illness & Wayne-Falcone's link ?
@rainier4258
@rainier4258 2 года назад
@GalacticGourd I did pay attention to the dialogue. Which is why I know the big 40-man group big set piece ending had absolutely no story leading to it prior to the third act. It's great. They did the last scene with Dano then suddenly remembered it's a superhero movie and has to end with big loud bangs and bright flashes, hence, here comes the Cosplay Mob we've heard literally nothing about for the last THREE HOURS.
@ironcladnomad5639
@ironcladnomad5639 2 года назад
@@rainier4258 lol, in Riddler's earliest videos he says he'll kill "again and again" until the "day of judgment". It wasn't hinted, he flat out said it.
@rainier4258
@rainier4258 2 года назад
@@ironcladnomad5639 I like that the plot of the movie is so completely twisted and incoherent that the main villain of the film thinks the hero is helping him. Poor Riddler must've been so confused to find out that the entire time the "detective" he's had to spoon feed answers to isn't actually on his side. Gosh it's just like Se7en! Except not even close to the plot of that film at all lol Oh well, it'll get five sequels because people love it. I just hope an editor gets ahold of the movies first so no one is forced to sit through three hours of bad 90s movie retreads.
@hycintadsilva8816
@hycintadsilva8816 2 года назад
The Intro was a banger!! The best thing about the movie was that it seemed like the film is just about the basic plot but in the end of the 2nd act and the whole 3rd act we find that it is challenging the character of batman not to be vengence but to be hope The movie was set so well and it didn't fell long or focused at one thing it did feel like many things were happening at the same time but the third act of the movie pulled everything back together
@ryanreviews8566
@ryanreviews8566 Год назад
wow, i totally missed the parts where batman and riddler were doing the same things like journaling and binocular spying. hella creepy and excellent writing on Batman and his growth.
@Zombiesnyder13
@Zombiesnyder13 2 года назад
Robert Pattinson came a long way since his infamous TWILIGHT days
@binewtv2214
@binewtv2214 2 года назад
In fact he is still half men half bat
@Themountain6197
@Themountain6197 2 года назад
@@binewtv2214 well at least he's a cool bat now
@SeaGLGaming
@SeaGLGaming 2 года назад
He was amazing in Tenet.
@thegamesforreal1673
@thegamesforreal1673 2 года назад
Honestly, even in Twilight I already thought he did a great acting job... He just had a shit character. You can see in the later twilight films that he was actually allowed to give Edward more of his own spin, and it showed in how likeable the character was *immediately*.
@bigbean1627
@bigbean1627 2 года назад
I think I’d be cool to see poison ivy as the main villain if we get a second movie. The Batman changed the riddler from a zany weirdo into a full on serial killer, and I think it’d be interesting to give another villain who’s pretty outlandish in the comics a darker angle.
@owyemen9367
@owyemen9367 2 года назад
Pretty sure Mr freeze is the main villian of the sequel as he should be but yes that would be amazing
@Neutral_Tired
@Neutral_Tired 2 года назад
Considering they're straying away from the supernatural elements, I doubt that would happen
@glassofwater281
@glassofwater281 2 года назад
I wanna see Bane, Two Face, Black Mask or Scarecrow really bad
@smnb6652
@smnb6652 2 года назад
@@owyemen9367 My bet is on Hush. Considering the reporter that got killed was Hush' grandfather and the word Hush! literally blinked on the screen afterwards (visible in this video as well)
@owyemen9367
@owyemen9367 2 года назад
@@smnb6652 that's fair too but the flooding is just literally perfect for freeze and Matt said he wanted to focus on him
@highwind1991
@highwind1991 2 года назад
While I do think that the action climax is the weakest part, the build-up is very very well done
@buggobricks
@buggobricks Год назад
That intro was amazing😂! Between the bully Maguire and the spoof on the Batman’s beginning! Just comedy gold!
@lonewalkerproductions
@lonewalkerproductions 2 года назад
The opening monologue is reminiscent of Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver, right down to Bernard Hermann's score. It's just beautiful
@tsnhd
@tsnhd 2 года назад
The way Batman goes for the Grappling Hook also reminded me of Travis Bickle
@tacomn
@tacomn 2 года назад
See that is why I feel this Batman movie was fine but effectively useless. Holy shit is Taxi driver such a better movie. That is an awesome example of how the city itself becomes its own cancerous animalistic character of its own.
@natalyamartirosyan
@natalyamartirosyan 2 года назад
wow dude you didn't just put these two movies in one orbit, did you.. oh god..
@jj590
@jj590 Год назад
I wish we heard more of it throughout the movie
@DongLongQua
@DongLongQua 2 года назад
I think the comparison to the Dark Knight on the point of "not seeing or meeting ordinary citizens of Gotham" is a tad bit unfair? Because we already saw that in Batman Begins. We already saw Gotham and it's normal citizens (the homeless person, the falaffle guy, the kid, etc.) We already saw how crime ridden (Gotham) is and how it is controlled by fear and desperation. There was no need to show it again in TDK. TDK instead shows how even the rich (bank manager and Bruce Wayne's party) and the powerful (the mob, Lau, and GCPD, the DA) are still vulnerable to one crazy madman: the Joker. So when the ordinary citizens stand up to fear, when they make the choice for themselves, defying the Joker (who was already established as an unstoppable force of crime and fear) it's a powerful moment. It validates Batman's belief that Gotham and its people are not beyond saving.
@SomeoneWeird-vx5jx
@SomeoneWeird-vx5jx 2 года назад
Also, Gotham citizens are very present in the dark knight. Here they are at Harvey Dent's speech, here they are shooting an innocent man to save a hospital, and here they are watching the Joker on the news. There are even minor characters that give their thoughts like at Harvey and Bruce's dinner and Batman and Harvey always talk about the symbol of hope, a symbol FOR the people of Gotham.
@jasonalv7436
@jasonalv7436 2 года назад
I don't agree with your 2nd paragraph. Mainly because Gotham in Batman Begins and in TDK are a completely different animal. TDK just kinda looks like any other city in the US. But even then, I don't agree with Filmento that the film never showed us Gotham. Because yeah, it never showed us any scenes where we can even remotely connect with them but I don't think it needs to. It's just like a regular city and I'm pretty sure anyone who lives in a city can feel some sort of connection. Same level of connection as if you're watching a disaster film. So it isn't a fantastical aspect of the film that the audience needs to connect with
@michaelotis223
@michaelotis223 2 года назад
There's been this recent TDK bashing; people just picking at it to justify why The Batman is their new fav toy. Its very sus
@jasonalv7436
@jasonalv7436 2 года назад
@@michaelotis223 it's probably because a lot of people are saying TDK is not only the best Batman film ever made but the best film ever made and if I were to like The Batman more, there must be a reason why and in the end, you gotta bash TDK a bit more than before when the competition is weak
@peach_total
@peach_total 2 года назад
re your second paragraph: it’s kind of funny bc a good portion of the themes in The Batman are saying the opposite. that wealth and class can have a profound effect on people in otherwise very similar situations
@Maybeyoudorho
@Maybeyoudorho 2 года назад
It killed me that I had to explain to my mother that Batman wasn’t JUST a rich dude but also a detective and that his costume was MENT to strike fear in the hearts of criminals. I loved the intro to the movie so much because you can actually feel that in the city.
@Movie_Games
@Movie_Games 2 года назад
Wow, I thought I was the only one. I compared Batman to Se7en months ago on RU-vid and people said I was crazy.
@werdazhel_9672
@werdazhel_9672 2 года назад
Then the people you were talking to were crazier
@Eralen00
@Eralen00 2 года назад
The parallels are pretty obvious. If you don't see that the batman was heavily inspired by se7en you're blind. One big difference is the ending. Se7en is a self-contained story so that's what allows the villain to win in the end. It wouldn't work in the batman universe, if they're leaving the option for sequels open.
@adamlane6453
@adamlane6453 2 года назад
Yeah, even from the trailers, this film wears its influences on its sleeve.
@enzodapan5016
@enzodapan5016 2 года назад
This is a good take that somewhat made me love The Batman more since I've watched it in cinemas. But I think the third act is already good to me, this and Se7en are different movies with also the ending with him talking about hope prevailing not vengeance is one of my fav moments in a superhero movie. I'm fine with standard action blockbusters like what the MCU is doing yet I'm more down in superhero movies drawing inspirations from different film genres. Like, Joker drawing inspiration from Taxi Driver and King of Comedy, Logan with westerns, and The Batman with Se7en with that neo-noir take on the character.
@titlasagna2172
@titlasagna2172 2 года назад
Exactly
@jwnj9716
@jwnj9716 2 года назад
The Riddler was basically John Doe, Jigsaw & the Zodiac Killer mixed into 1. Really enjoyed the film. 3rd favourite Batman film. My top 2 are the Burton films. Since we are getting a sequel, why not Bryan Cranston as Mr Freeze? Save the Joker for the very end, we don't need him now.
@robertschiek8120
@robertschiek8120 2 года назад
Nah he’s already dealing a different kinda ice
@bhasuda
@bhasuda 2 года назад
Court of owls could also be a nice addition
@binewtv2214
@binewtv2214 2 года назад
Burton over Nolan? Damn
@criss26565
@criss26565 2 года назад
Or we can get scare crow, and since these will have darker tones, scarecrow would fit perfectly
@hephsforge9236
@hephsforge9236 2 года назад
I kinda like the going theory of it being Bane ngl, I feel this movie was p weak in terms of actual character development despite being so long and the “Bruce is an addict” theory kinda would suggest they could do that in a sequel.
@hjue44
@hjue44 2 года назад
The opening is so amazing. You really get the sense of dread and its awesome. One of the most, if not the most memorable moment. Overall great movie. Went a second time and even though its a long movie and it was only a week since my first viewing, i enjoyed it more.
@superalatreon1
@superalatreon1 2 года назад
I do really like your channel and your film breakdowns have helped me in my fiction writing! Keep going strong!
@spider-man500
@spider-man500 2 года назад
As someone who was not a big DC or Batman Fan, I fucking love this. Out of all the Batman movies, it easily the most "Batman" of them all. And for the first time, Batman himself it the main focus. For that, it has become one of the first DC movies to truly have a place in my heart.
@ryanishungry7409
@ryanishungry7409 2 года назад
@@SPDRM the dark knight rises is the best Batman movie ever though
@messygamez5675
@messygamez5675 2 года назад
@@ryanishungry7409 cap...
@thedarkknight5239
@thedarkknight5239 2 года назад
@@ryanishungry7409 ummmm…… no
@pochita7004
@pochita7004 2 года назад
I don't understand, you say your not a big. Fan of batman nor DC, yet you can say this feels the most "batman"
@rodrigodelacruz2230
@rodrigodelacruz2230 2 года назад
@@pochita7004 Well, even the least fans know that it is the most "Batman" movie
@fishyfish6510
@fishyfish6510 2 года назад
I was more excited for NWH than The Batman but after watching it I have to say The Batman was a more satisfying watch to me.
@adjam1991
@adjam1991 Год назад
It was great to see Batman doing some detective work in this film. This felt more like what a Batman film should be more than any that have come before.
@JustPhasingBy
@JustPhasingBy 2 года назад
Didn't even watch the video yet but had to comment that the intro was perfect!
@madmartigan21
@madmartigan21 2 года назад
Like Columbo, the mystery is not who did it or how they did it. The mystery is how is Batman going to solve it.
@dylana.9057
@dylana.9057 2 года назад
& the batman didn't even solve it by himself. Furthermore the mystery to solve is lame.
@danielkiran8174
@danielkiran8174 2 года назад
@@dylana.9057 Why is Batman supposed to work alone in the first place? This is the beginning of his story, AND he always had Alfred to help him out in all versions of Batman. At the end of the day Batman still ended up finding the major clues himself.
@mjgfromdallas
@mjgfromdallas 2 года назад
Crazy, when I was watching The Batman I was getting Se7en, Zodiac feels. I feel maybe Matt got inspiration from those well done crime films.
@nagybecsarnai8502
@nagybecsarnai8502 2 года назад
If I know right, the director listed Zodiac and Se7en as inspirations for his movie
@tigarson4955
@tigarson4955 2 года назад
@@nagybecsarnai8502 he didn't....he listed chinatown , all the president's men,klute , French connection
@ibanez9179
@ibanez9179 2 года назад
@@tigarson4955 He said Zodiac was major inspiration for riddler.
@ibanez9179
@ibanez9179 2 года назад
@@tigarson4955 even Stevie wonder can see zodiac/Seven influence on The Batman movie.
@tigarson4955
@tigarson4955 2 года назад
@@ibanez9179 he said THE ZODIAC KILLER not the movie zodiac.. and nah zodiac is nothing similar to the batman lol
@oskarj5399
@oskarj5399 2 года назад
Been waiting for this video 10/10 as expected great video again 👍
@ICYKiD234
@ICYKiD234 Год назад
As a non Batman fan this was a good one. I watched it twice,fell asleep in the theatre first time but really didn’t miss too much. Then when I rewatched at home on hbo I was locked in all the way through. It’s a very realistic Batman and I’m excited about the next ones
@eye7051
@eye7051 Год назад
ikr i thought that the movie was bad when i first watched it
@ChrisPTenders
@ChrisPTenders 2 года назад
Brilliant intro and outro. Fantastic editing, as always. I always kept it to myself, but I felt unimpressed by Seven, so it was weird when I started hearing The Batman compared to it, because I adored The Batman and couldn't deny the connection. This video makes it clear why I like one so much more than the other. The stakes in The Batman are personalized throughout. I'd add that each of Riddler's riddles had little hints suggesting he knew who Batman was: from the Mayor's son, to "a rat with wings", to the orphanage donated by the Waynes... Each clue made Batman a little more paranoid, and you could see his ego sirens going off as he immediately thought of the Batman Bruce Wayne connection, and he would have to think up reasons as to why it wasn't about him... until he couldn't deny the connection anymore after seeing the Riddler's lair. And when Riddler confronts a primed for mind games Batman, he uses Batman's growing suspicion that he knows to toy with his mind and force him to confront his own similarities to Riddler, in an attempt to gaslight him into more fully embracing vengeance... And distancing himself from the shamefully privileged Bruce Wayne and the potential that figure has to affect real change, pressuring him to lean more into Batman and embracing the mask and it's limitless freedom as his true self. And a certain clown thinks Riddler's efforts were successful, so apparently Riddler got Bruce to a headspace Joker thinks he can work with. That deleted scene made me think the villains just want Batman to join them in Arkham or feel guilty for putting them there at the very least. I'm so excited to see what fascinating psychological battle Batman will face next... This was the most engaging battle of the mind I've seen on film in a long time.
@tylerbrowne9267
@tylerbrowne9267 2 года назад
As if you adored this but were unimpressed by seven, that's madness.
@tylerbrowne9267
@tylerbrowne9267 2 года назад
Engaging battle of the mind ? Riddler is juet literally guiding batman the entire film, they never have a battle of wits. Closest is the interrogation scene.
@ChrisPTenders
@ChrisPTenders 2 года назад
@@tylerbrowne9267 whoa.... opinion police, everyone scatter.
@tylerbrowne9267
@tylerbrowne9267 2 года назад
@@ChrisPTenders where did I say you couldn't have one? Pretty cringe aren't you.
@cothinker680
@cothinker680 Год назад
@@ChrisPTenders Bro se7en inspired this film I don't think so you watch se7en with open mind, people used to say that se7en city is more Gotham looking than dark knight trilogy before this the batman movie
@BjornsTIR
@BjornsTIR 2 года назад
I've never seen a movie convey the feeling of being in a club as well as this one, yeah. Good to see, that I'm not the only one who thought the ending was a bit underwhelming
@grzegorzmj4881
@grzegorzmj4881 2 года назад
But it's underwhelming only because the rest of the movie is really good and we expect something really special (like in "7even"). If it was an average superhero movie, we wouldn't have this conversation.
@useless_name
@useless_name 2 года назад
@@grzegorzmj4881 yeah but why didn't it get a greater ending than "Batman saves the day by fist-fighting the villains"? I'm puzzled why they couldn't do something more personal. To please the marvel audience?
@glassofwater281
@glassofwater281 2 года назад
I liked the ending mostly for its symbolism. Yeah it's a little underwhelming but reading more into it makes it better imo.
@Shiftarus
@Shiftarus 2 года назад
@@useless_name I think it was meant to show a change in Batman. He could have gotten "Vengeance" against the Riddler, but instead he had to protect the city and its citizens. Basically showing that his character has grown.
@grzegorzmj4881
@grzegorzmj4881 2 года назад
@@useless_name That's my point. The ending definitely could be more personal and less about spectacle but on the other hand it's true what Glass of Water and Tim White wrote that still there is some symbolism and growth in Batman during this final fight. Because for the first time everything he's doing is to protect and help others.
@boomerboi9642
@boomerboi9642 2 года назад
This video had me hooked from beginning to end I love not only the topic because batman blew my expectations but also the way you did it Your ending joke was amazing by the way
@alexandersilva3327
@alexandersilva3327 Год назад
the opening with filmento talking like batman was sooo good i thought it actually the movies beginning until he said different things,the voice was perfect
@Integrawr
@Integrawr 2 года назад
Glad to see you re-uploaded it as public, my heart was broken earlier
@isaiahvoss
@isaiahvoss 2 года назад
There's a reference to Robert Pattinson's Good Time. The store says Good Times a reference to the movie. The drop head wears a similar outfit as Robert Pattinson did in Good Time.
@IcyBloodFyre
@IcyBloodFyre 2 года назад
AHHHH I LOVE IT I've been waiting for this video to appear the moment I saw "Batman: Se7en Riddles" in the cinema and recognized it touched down on most of your previously suggested points. Great vid
@sihlerumo
@sihlerumo 2 года назад
Been waiting on this one. Filmento has been unstoppable.
@jakehoddinott5768
@jakehoddinott5768 2 года назад
What happened to the Og Vid?
@Ray-uu7cs
@Ray-uu7cs 2 года назад
Copyright probably
@lambro3001
@lambro3001 2 года назад
I knew I wasn't tripping. I was like, didn't he already make this video?
@diegowushu
@diegowushu 2 года назад
It was really good. RPats nailed it. Good reference to the Arkham games, that whole detective aspect was great in those.
@Sol-Butkis
@Sol-Butkis 2 года назад
Great video. that's got to be one of the best manscaped ads I've seen so far
@TheRealXenosapien
@TheRealXenosapien 2 года назад
Thank you for writing an ad segment didn't fast forward through on reflex. Fantastic breakdown of the film too I might add!
@LeonardoKlotz
@LeonardoKlotz 2 года назад
I liked GREG FRASER's cinematography But I would love to see MICHAEL SERESIN working on the sequel He worked on the last two PLANET OF THE APES movies with Matt Reeves
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 2 года назад
Why did you capitalise all the letters in all the proper nouns except matt reeves?
@GabesEdtiz
@GabesEdtiz 2 года назад
Ehhh idk. Greg Fraser seemed to understand the assignment quite well
@sevandobo
@sevandobo 2 года назад
God damn those 2 films are puuuuuurrrttyyy.
@liebertjohann8524
@liebertjohann8524 2 года назад
eeh...Greig Fraser has a better style imo
@MinecraftWorld1954
@MinecraftWorld1954 2 года назад
I recently rewatched it on HBO max and I think it got much better upon rewatch. Still my 3rd favorite Batman Movie behind The Lego Batman Movie for nostalgia resolutions and The Dark Knight for obvious reasons. Also, I got major Planet Of The Apes Trilogy in terms of dialogue and Cloverfield vibes from the cinematography, especially in the finale. (FILMENTO PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON CLOVERFIELD!!!) Also, that scene where he save the people was a huge tear jerker for me.
@RibusPQR
@RibusPQR 2 года назад
I just couldn't watch Lego Batman after learning Babs is the love interest.
@MinecraftWorld1954
@MinecraftWorld1954 2 года назад
@@RibusPQR understandable. Granted, that movie is a parody of Batman, so it’s poking fun at the “ship” But, yes, I get where you’re coming from and if you think about it, it still feels weird to think about.
@tacomn
@tacomn 2 года назад
Have you seen Tim Burton's Batman movies?
@MinecraftWorld1954
@MinecraftWorld1954 2 года назад
@@tacomn Yes. I have them both, as well as the Joel Schumacher films, in a 4 film DVD
@weirdadventure3525
@weirdadventure3525 2 года назад
You’re the best Filmento. I love your videos and have watched them all. Keep up the good work bother!
@vthenarheqa
@vthenarheqa 2 года назад
Loved this movie. At first I was somewhat miffed at how Batman wasn't all that great at solving the crime or puzzles -- "Worlds Greatest Detective" and all that -- but after thinking about it and rewatching I realized that no, it fits really well. This is a young inexperienced Batman. He shows he's obviously smart -- he notices a lot of details and figures out a few key bits like finding the thumb drive -- but doesn't quite grasp the larger picture. So I think he still has room to grow, which is exactly what this movie was all about. As for the ending, I agree it wasn't really my favorite -- though I do think it does hit a personal note quite well. When the masked vigilante says "I am vengeance", repeating exactly what Batman said earlier, this is a gut punch for him to really understand exactly what he looks like to others on the outside, and it's not pretty. Unfortunately that emotional gut punch is drowned out by all the other mess and action going on at the time, so I think it could have been a lot better. Also why the heck flood the city? I don't care if it happened in the comics, it seems so pointless and unnecessary. Anyways, loved the video. Great analysis as always!
@sera_sarzad
@sera_sarzad 2 года назад
He got some puzzles wrong, too. I loved that.
@yasmellrodriguez2632
@yasmellrodriguez2632 Год назад
the riddler is a lunatic, so him flooding the city isnt all that crazy for him to do. After all he wants chaos, he doesnt care to get the public on his side because he knows its pointless, he just wants to cause chaos because in his mind thats the only way to get at the corrupt politicians, even if it hurts the public too
@isaiahvoss
@isaiahvoss 2 года назад
The film is a Se7en Masterpiece but with Batman. It's so brooding to see a Batman that only wants vengeance and nothing else. It's finding the mystery in the clock of time like with SAW with its clues and traps. It's what I never expected in a Batman film. It's like this film wanted to riddle you to find It's true prime of justice. It's when the puzzle is flipped upside down as If The Riddler is John Doe and John Krammer in one with a twisted narcissistic mind. That's what makes The Batman very vulnerable compared to the other film.
@IncandescentWriter
@IncandescentWriter 2 года назад
I really enjoyed this film a lot. The mystery solving cases are what made the games good as well. It would be cool to see Hush or somebody like Calendar Man be the next Batman villain in the sequel. Someone who we haven't seen on the big screen before.
@pedrofernandez9506
@pedrofernandez9506 Год назад
I absolutely loved the publicity at the end of the video, the voice, music and script they are all great. And regarding the video: great work, as always.
@aliminator1310
@aliminator1310 2 года назад
I was WAITING for this one, especially!!
@luciusnguyen2449
@luciusnguyen2449 2 года назад
Personally, I think Riddler's motivation could've been made so that it's more personal. Edward was given hope by the Wayne's Renewal fund. However, that hope never came true because the elites and Falcone fed on the fund. This caused Riddler to harbor the hate for those who fed on Renewal Fund. He also learned of Thomas Wayne's past with Falcone which make him think that the Renewal Fund was all a lie to push his mayoral campaign. This put him on a path of eliminating anyone who fed on the Renewal Fund and uncovering the lies and corruption of Gotham. This sounds like a solid motivation for a villain. However, the movie just did not try to convey this message because Riddler himself didn't even attempt to reveal the truth about how the Renewal Fund was used to the public. He seems to care more about uncovering The Rat. The central clue of his victims was the Rat and Maroni Drug Bust, the renewal fund was barely mentioned in the movie. If the movie had focused more on Renewal Fund, it would've made Riddler's action way more personal. Like having the Renewal fund as the common pattern between his victim instead of the Maroni Drug bust. Have Riddler leave clues about how each of his victims launders money or bribe using the Renewal fund and have Batman uncover the truth. The Rat mystery is cool but it is not personal to Bruce and Riddler
@jewelaloo7831
@jewelaloo7831 Год назад
I really disagree with this take because he did both and both were very personal to him. Renewal was meant to help people like him but when it failed, in his own words, the orphans would become dropheads at super early ages. Renewal never saw the light of day because Falcone was using it to launder money and was peddling huge issues like drops, corruption, etc that made Nashton's life so terrible. He wasn't exposing the Maroni drug bust as a fake just because, he was exposing the cities biggest drug bust because it was prided by all the people who made his life so shitty as something good and a sign of change when it was a complete lie that he experienced first hand. Imo, he wasn't attached to any particular case or scandal whether it be Renewal or the Maroni Drug Bust, he was exposing general lies and false promises made by politicians, cops and the courts and how it all connected back to the mob. Maybe I'm missing something but overall I thought his motives were pretty solid and personal for him, plus Dano's acting sells it super well.
@fastony9659
@fastony9659 2 года назад
Of all superheroes that exist, truly only a few work well not quite as action packed comic book adventures, but genuine murder mystery/thrillers. The Batman is one of them.
@garykelley9027
@garykelley9027 Год назад
Wow, I totally hadn't seen it in so long I didn't realise til this vid (missed your other one somehow, shame on me). It had this familiar feeling, this video made it all so clear. Bravo!
@laurelsilberman5705
@laurelsilberman5705 2 года назад
THIS. This is the video essay about this movie I’ve bern waiting for. Also: your memes were absolute fire.
@parke4112
@parke4112 2 года назад
I totally agree with your opinion in the final fight because I felt like it was empty despite the high stakes, however, since they're doing a sequel I guess it would be to leave room for the riddler, and the joker I guess, to learn about the Batman's true identity. Great vid as usual.
@mr__music5719
@mr__music5719 2 года назад
I'd be ok with Mr.Freeze as long as it's somewhat similar to the animations and arkham games. I wouldn't mind a ending similar Arkham Knight's. Another good one to bring in would be Mr.Pyg, Clayface, Ivy, Dr. Strange, Deathstroke, Deadshot or a combination of them. Ik Reeves mentioned Court of Owls which would be really good too. Obviously we'll get more Penguin as he's the head of the mafia now.
@domhuckle
@domhuckle Год назад
The ending was superb - the assassin quoting "vengeance" back at batman and him realising that he has to be more - then the scene at the end where he holds the light and leads the crowd
@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw
@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw 2 года назад
The only ads i dont get tired of, i bought it with your code to help you amigo, a hug from Mexico 😁
@HishamA.N_Comicbroe
@HishamA.N_Comicbroe 2 года назад
Really great video. Your first video on the film when the teaser had released had hyped me up so much. Also I request everybody to read the plot Of Se7en in the description. It's hilarious but I understand why.
@KaipitainKai
@KaipitainKai 2 года назад
The editing in this video (the music in particular) is just on point and so damn funny
@ReviewBru
@ReviewBru 2 года назад
finally THE BATMAN review. been waiting on this one for ages from you
@smiledawg
@smiledawg 2 года назад
I have watched more Manscaped ads than I can count, but yours is far and away the best
@TheEvilGamingInc
@TheEvilGamingInc 2 года назад
I rewatched it recently and Ive come to the idea that Matt Revees took heavy inspiration on the zodiac killers outfit/psychopathy. The form of the killings though can also take inspiration from other killers both fictional and non-fictionional, with saw being the inspiration for the mouse maze but the collar bomb based of the killers of the same name.
@PK-ow1kj
@PK-ow1kj 2 года назад
Exactly. This version of Riddler works but I was hoping for a little bit of original ideas to make him memorable... Unfortunately he's just a mish mash of past fictional and non fictional serial killers with no innovation.
@excaliburknives3572
@excaliburknives3572 2 года назад
When riddler kills michell it gets me every time. Even though I know what will happen it still gives me the same feeling that it did when I watched it the first time.
@joecrawford296
@joecrawford296 2 года назад
You were, indeed, spot on with your prediction about this yonks ago - bravo, sir!
@interstaffing
@interstaffing Год назад
Your "Manscape" ad is the only one I've seen that _might_ make me consider buying it 18:50 is handled with just the right amount of humour considering the very serious issue. Nice one. cheers
@foal_ju
@foal_ju 2 года назад
I agree with you about the ending, the Riddler’s final plan felt a bit forced, and cliche, just to see batman save the day. Making it more personal would have been more coherent
@useless_name
@useless_name 2 года назад
People defending the ending should ask themselves: What did you feel witnessing the Riddler's prior murders and did you get the same feeling with these huge fighting setpieces? I seriously doubt that. I really like the Batman but we should criticize all movies for their flaws, especially the ones we love.
@EGRJ
@EGRJ 2 года назад
@@useless_name The scene wasn't actually about the fighting, it was about Bruce learning how wrong he was. He thinks he can do it alone, but he needs Catwoman (one of the few people he personally cares about) to save him, and she almost gets killed in the process. Then he learns that just punching bad guys isn't enough to protect people, and everything he's been doing since his parents died - every bruise, every scar he's taken - has been for the wrong reason and having the wrong effect. *That* was the emotional climax. And I was personally bought to tears.
@SomeoneWeird-vx5jx
@SomeoneWeird-vx5jx 2 года назад
I really enjoyed the ending for its symbolism and presentation of the movie's core message. The Riddler thinks Batman will join him, the Riddler's goon calls himself Vengeance, Catwoman wanted to kill Falcone, and Batman fights the Riddler's goons on top of Gotham's safe zone where the citizens are at. What does it mean? Firstly, the Riddler and his followers were inspired by Batman, but got the wrong ideas while seeming unblameable. Catwoman also taunts at batman saying that he is vengeance and it's justifiable to kill Falcone with what he has done. Batman realizes how much of a presence he has on the people of Gotham, and has to change that. Batman being on top of Gotham shows how much of a pedestal he is on as Vengeance, but once he chooses to change, he falls into the water. The water is usually used as symbolizing change or rebirth in literature, similar to the act of baptizing. The phrases "cliche" and "just to see batman save the day" seem like total misunderstandings of what the movie actually sets out. "Forced" seems sort of reasonable to me, as the ending did kind of speed by, but not too much. Experiences can vary though and I have only seen this movie three times. Anyway, Batman technically did not really win. Gotham is flooded, and he was the bad guy all along. In fact if it wasn't for the change in ideologies Batman undergoes, it would seem as if Batman was just a plague to Gotham. But Batman learns. But Batman doesn't give up. But Batman knows what he needs to do. I can't think of any recent superhero/fantasy movie in the twenty first century that has the character technically lose but bounce right back up. You may be able to think of one, but to truly rebuttal my pretty bold claim you have to least at least three. Then yeah I'll give it up, it could be a little "cliche" (my memory of older movies over the years always tends to get pretty foggy)
@foal_ju
@foal_ju 2 года назад
@@EGRJ @SomeoneWeird 2233 my only issue is that the whole movie is about Riddler wanting to take down corruption, and we can see that he is a reflection of batman. But in the end, he ends up wanting to kill innocents people and the good new mayor, leaving batman no choice, and no reason to question his vision of justice
@SomeoneWeird-vx5jx
@SomeoneWeird-vx5jx 2 года назад
@@useless_name Sweet Summer's kid, those are two completely different things: Horror scenes and fight scenes. I'm assuming you are comparing "dread," and not every fight scene in a movie has to have super high stakes or be super intriguing. For example, the Warehouse scene in BvS. That was probably the coolest Batman fight ever, but did anyone actually feel like Batman was gonna lose? No. But was it a spectacle? Absolutely. The first half of the movie may have been more entertaining for you, but rooting the problem of the ending half of the movie to a lackluster sense of Dread between two different styles of scenery, one of which isn't made to always have that sense of Dread, seems, well, very misguided. And they are better approaches to why the fight scenes didn't work for you than making such a bold comparison mate.
@dmc7906
@dmc7906 2 года назад
Am absolutely stunned you of all people didn't think this was half hearted garbage.
@HonISfirE
@HonISfirE 2 года назад
Agree, current filmento are questionable
@dmc7906
@dmc7906 2 года назад
@@HonISfirE very strange and comparing it to seven as if it were in the dane league? Mindblown.
@Fhwoarang
@Fhwoarang 2 года назад
You are so creative with the adds. I loved the whole video, but the way you advertised the shaving machine is awesome. 😁
@apathtrampledbydeer8446
@apathtrampledbydeer8446 2 года назад
The intro and he add at the end, well played!!!
@rickblaine9670
@rickblaine9670 2 года назад
I loved the movie, but the finale is my biggest issue with it. I rolled my eyes when I realized the Riddler’s final master plan was to shoot at random people and blow stuff up. I mean, it’s the freakin Riddler. Have him, I don’t know, kidnap Alfred or Selina and lead Bruce into a nightmarish labyrinth of death traps, for God’s sake. It’s not that hard. Perhaps with some crazy twist about his past or identity on top of that, I mean, why not. The point is that the ending should’ve been more intimate. The way it is, we basically have two action packed endings one after another, first Batman vs Falcone’s goons, then Batman vs Riddler’s goons. It’s redundant as shit.
@starc0unter
@starc0unter 2 года назад
The Batman reminded me of the Arkham Games, but took the detecting up notches and focused on that over the action. For a Gotham city that resembles the Arkhamverse, The Batman did a great job making it similar, but not the same. The on the ground feel with the rain and the music was super cool, but the thing that really made this movie was indeed the Riddler. He wasn't a puzzle-crazy dude boasting a high IQ like in the games, he was a genuinely terrifying antagonist on par (IMO) with the Joker from The Dark Knight. His intro was chilling, his musical theme is spooky, but what he did within the context of the movie was the real core of this character. I love when writers give the antagonist a strong point to leverage, in the case of The Batman, the fact that the city is corrupt. It's true, Batman knows it, the city knows it, but more importantly, so does the Riddler. He's the kind of villain that, mixed also with his portrayal and mannerisms, leaves an impression on you because of what his angle works from. He's not trying to take over the world, not even the city. He's simply trying to prove a point and expose what the people of Gotham don't want to take as fact. He's almost like a child really, wanting others to agree with him. Just like the Joker, he stands opposite Batman's quest for order: chaos. Both The batman and TDK could've gotten too political in that regard (depending who you ask they may already be so), but they did a great job to keep it pretty shallow. Like the Joker in TDK, you know their ideas and POV is based in a form of truth. A twisted one as villains often have, but they stand of relatively solid ground. A great hero isn't truly great unless they have a solid antagonist to oppose them. All the same, I wish the Pattinverse would've set up a new sequel antagonist besides the Joker. I love the Joker at the flip side to Batman's coin, but the DC universe has so many interesting characters that it seems a shame to do yet ANOTHER Joker. I hope they do something new or at least revert back to a more comic-booky style, like a mature version of Nicholson's Clown Prince. If they don't try a new avenue for the character, they can make up for it by introducing Talia. Yes please! - Starc0unter Video Essays
@loxul2239
@loxul2239 2 года назад
Best Manscaped AD ever... And the video analysis was good too.
@ginoongboyong
@ginoongboyong 2 года назад
Nice!! That's what I've been waiting for!! Hehehe. Thanks for this review!! BTW: Cool commercial at the end! Ahahaha!!
@argkitsune
@argkitsune 2 года назад
Se7en is still the better thriller imo.
@jwnj9716
@jwnj9716 2 года назад
Seen Resurrection? Very similar but it does its own thing. Highly recommend it, a hidden gem.
@argkitsune
@argkitsune 2 года назад
@@jwnj9716 I haven't seen it but I'll check it out sometime soon.
@excaliburknives3572
@excaliburknives3572 2 года назад
Well yeah. Because the Batman was kinda forced to be an action movie because there’s superheroes.
@ethanlinnjitsu
@ethanlinnjitsu 2 года назад
Well... yeah duh? Because this movie is not at heart a thriller. It's a superhero comic movie, with heavy thriller influence.
@argkitsune
@argkitsune 2 года назад
Just to clarify things, what year was it released?
@thedarkemissary
@thedarkemissary 2 года назад
I'd argue that the spectacle criticism is only on the surface. It does go deeply personal when he confronts Batman with his own philosophy of *vengeance* against the "evil doers" of Gotham. The difference is that Mills kills John Doe, whereas Batman doesn't. And yet it's also the exact same, because the protagonist is, in essence, the killer's last victim, forever changed. So, it does end up "deciding the future of Batman and Gotham City." In fact, he even has a monologue explaining that to the audience.
@TheForbiddenOne55
@TheForbiddenOne55 2 года назад
Nice catch and explanation.
@WhyAreYouLagging
@WhyAreYouLagging 2 года назад
Bro, that outro was fantastic.
@yesenlee1
@yesenlee1 Год назад
Thank you for your videos in such dark times. greetings from Chile
@dyliera.velazqueznidoknigh6089
@dyliera.velazqueznidoknigh6089 2 года назад
The Batman actually because my number 1 Batman movie, the gross but amazingly fleshed out Gotham and the way criminals are scared at night is fucking amazing. Those first 10-15 minutes are everything. Watched it again 2 days later even though it was long as hell, but it’s necessary because that extra run time really helps with the world building. So so good, hope they keep the same atmosphere and cancerous tumor aura of Gotham.
@thedark4301
@thedark4301 Год назад
Loved your reviewing style you got a new subscriber.
@delshi13
@delshi13 2 года назад
This was amazing!! I loved Batman already, but you video made me love it even more as I realised just how great the batman movie actually is.
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