THE BATMAN - SPOILER TALK | Double Toasted 

The most hilarious moment was Riddler doing his vlog and saying "Hi guy's " 🤣 🤣 🤣 I died

"The Riddler is calm cause he always think he's the smartest person in the room, until he feels like he is not, then he flips out..." I didn't know that, but that's pretty damn good characterization for a Batman villain.

The sequence where one of Riddler's followers echoes the "I'm vengeance" line from the start of the film, and the shot of Batman realizing what his crusading had caused was so powerful without a single piece of spoken dialogue. Matt Reeves does a lot with showing the audience without telling through directing the actors to portray their characters physically in all the scenes, and it was a beautiful progression of his character arc. The epilogue scene with Batman carrying the victim to the stretcher to be treated was incredibly well done. This film was basically as close to my ideal Batman film as I could've possibly hoped for.

My friend turned to me a few times and said, "This batman is terrifying" and I laughed cause he's right and it was during the chase scene. When Batman walked him down with the flame behind him, I turned to him and said, "Bro he is Michael Myers to these criminals". Also took my favorite thing in the Snyder run where it's so gothic and feels like batman is one with the shadow at times.

Scarecrow would be amazing. He was severely under utilized in Batman Begins, and considering how well Reeves made the Riddler’s murders disturbing. Scarecrow’s nightmare sequences could be amazing.

The point of Bruce not being Bruce who’s snobby and smooth with the chicks is because this movie was him realizing the city needs Bruce as much as it needs Batman. It sadly took riddler to realize that.

That prison scene with riddler and Batman was brilliant. He was talking about Bruce Wayne, not to Bruce Wayne. The way they tricked Batman and the audience was amazing.

That scene of Batman leading those survivors through the flood waters with that flare was gorgeous. Beautifully shot and really shows that Reeves understands the character. Batman is not just a vigilante trying to stop crime. Gotham is his. Right or wrong, he feels responsibility for the city.

Fans: This movie is too god damn long! Also Fans: You know, I really wanted to see more Riddler, more Falcone, Catwoman, Gordon, Penguin, and more Alfred.

I like that he's not a seasoned detective yet. The Batman we're used to seeing, has been through years of fighting crime. He's seen it all. That experience is why he's able to piece things together so quickly. But you have to learn that over time. It would be unrealistic for him to be that guy at this stage of his career. He shows traits. You can see he has the instincts, but it's not refined. He's like a promising rookie at this point. All these people saying it's a negative of the movie that he's not a good detective are missing the point. He's learning how to be the Batman we're used to seeing.

I am so glad Chris brought up the comparisons to the telltale series that many have been overlooking. I mean there’s definitely other storylines that do follow the corrupt side of the Wayne’s but I kept thinking of the telltale series, and it’s sequel “The enemy within”. The traps the riddler sets up kept making me think of that

Since this is a spoiler review, the biggest feature that I've seen many viewers miss is when the Riddler in Arkham first starts talking about Brrrruuuuuce, and The Batman thinks his identity is blown, but they miss the transition where Riddler is actually mourning missing one of his targets and still thinks Batman is his sympathetic co-conspirator. I loved that The Batman was a changed man by the end of the movie, with the potential to change still more. I loved that he strode out of the shadows, a gunslinger without guns, and it sounded like he had spurs when his feet hit the pavement. I hated that The Batman waded into gunfire like he was wearing Beskar, like he was wearing Iron Man's caveman suit.

When Batman emerged from the darkness with those slow heavy steps was dope; the movie score was a 10/10 for me.

When I saw Riddler on his website and he started by saying "Hi guy's" like he is a RU-vidr I laughed so hard 😂😂😂😂

Let’s give credit to Giacchino’s score, this is probably the greatest Batman theme I have ever heard

I feel like they going to have Joker recruiting everyone Batman locks up. And all of this will build up to a Arkham Asylum movie.

Personally, I like that they didn't have Bruce/Batman "grow" in this movie..and instead saving it for the sequel. I mean, they DID show how he's learned that he needs to be more than VENGEANCE..and that he can do good things as Bruce Wayne..righting the wrongs his father did..and "fixing" the Wayne legacy. Plus..from that embarrassing crash he had after that Bat-FLIGHT...we sure can see how he'd improve his mastery of his own gadgets..and fighting moves. I see this as the second movie Nolan should've made instead of The Dark Knight..which should've been the third movie. That whole Bane and the return of the League of Shadows crap were just the WRONG direction for the third and final movie.

That opening monologue literally gave my wife a full blown anxiety attack. That’s how legit it was

My biggest complaint is that they needed more Alfred. I was instantly fascinated with Serkis' version. Also re: Paul Dano, it's DAY-No, not DAN-O!

I watched about 3 different sets of people walk out with their kids in the first 10 minutes 😂😂

In The Batman, Bruce is still trying to establish himself as someone/something to be feared. If you noticed, only petty criminals feared him. The police, Falcone, Penguin, Catwoman and Gordon did not. Falcone even jokingly called him Zorro

I'm pretty sure Matt Reeves can figure out some kind of science-y explanation for Freeze to exist in this universe, and I'm totally on board with giving Freeze another chance on film.

The Riddler was a great enough choice, I for one don't really want to see another Joker. I mean there are so many other great Batman Villains that can fill in the shoes like Scarecrow, Two-Face, or Penguin 🐧 any other more grounded characters. They all have potential.

That segue to Better Help was hilarious and you handled it perfectly. Jokes are okay and then you were serious when you needed to be.

I think my biggest issue with it - was the relationship. Personally it seemed Selena had more love and care for her friend. Batman had more romance with Gordon.

Martin and I laughed at the same thing. As soon as Alfred opened his eyes Bruce was there giving him the third degree. I was like "Damn, Bruce. Where's the love you rotten bastard?"

Glad to see someone finally tells the truth about billionaires. It's impossible to be in the billionaire class without having stepped on the necks of others and stolen money from the labor class. Kudos to Reeves for injecting some realism into the Wayne family legacy.

Penguin was hilarious. I loved his henchmen too can’t wait to see the new hbo max series

Also in the Flashpoint story where Bruce is shot instead of his parents, Thomas Wayne becomes Batman and Martha Wayne becomes The Joker

For me, I would want villains we haven't seen on screen, aside Bane played by Dave Bautista. My top 5 would be Hugo Strange, Mad Hatter, Deacon Blackfire, Scarface and Ventriloquist, and if they really want to fuck with folks, Professor Pig.

For the sequel, I hope they introduce Nightwing as a fledgling vigilante in Bludhaven, trying to recreate what batman is doing in Gotham. Batman finds out about him and a few others and that's how we eventually get Batman incorporated. Not by him raising Dick Grayson as a ward, but by being a mentor to a young guy that's already on that path. I think that would be much more compelling. And I love that idea of keeping Joker in Arkham and consulting him like Hannibal.

When the Batman realized that vengeance was not the way to go, it reminded me of the "Justice League: The New Frontier" when Batman changed because he desired to frighten criminals, not children.

The Dark Knight is still the best Batman movie, but this is one of the more ambitious movies. Just by being a detective movie first and foremost, it does more than most other Batman movies.

I think they should continue a war for the city plotline in the second movie and have Penguin vs Black Mask vs League of Shadows or do the court if owls. Have some other villain cameos in there. I'm sure they could make a grounded Mr. Freeze work too.

My fav scene hands down has to be Batman walking towards Penguins car upside down

I would love to see a full fledged Scarecrow. Make a near horror movie with psychological effects on Batman and Gotham.

Btw that little boy seems to be a hint that he could be Robin.. Especially the ending where Bruce pulls him out from the flood. I really want them to do court of owls in the next. The hints abt them were in this movie with the owl cards by riddler.. And I'm reading the comics now n Bruce do wear those eye contacts

“Batman isn’t sloppy, Batman doesn’t mess up” Let me put you on to Batman: Earth One. A series of graphic novels done by Geoff Johns. One of the other inspirations of that film. In this continuity Bruce’s mother was an Arkham, he was trained by Alfred, and he kind of sucks at his job.

Hugo Strange would be great main antagonist for a sequel.

Second best Batman after TDK. If people don't get what Matt Reeves was doing with the difference between Bruce & Batman they're determined not to get it. There is no Bruce Wayne character here...he only recognizes himself as Batman he's focused on how to be a symbol of hope & justice not rage anger etc. He's only 2 years in he's still learning like if people don't get that that's on them. Like it's great to not see Thomas & Martha Wayne's murder its great to see a much younger Batman he's not the polished Billionaire playboy. He's not 10-15 years into Batman like people are so used to seeing the samething they can't appreciate a fresh take. 10/10 for me along with TDK 🤷🏽 it is the Joker Matt Reeves confirmed it

It was penguin who intentionally hit his car against the side of one of those which caused the whole domino of all those trucks getting fucked.

Mr Antifreeze. Lmao 🤣 man I could watch that clip over and over again. Martin damn near broke out into a full laugh.

Loved all the points and comparisons that were brought up in this review. I can't wait for the second movie, which I would be on board if it goes with the Court of Owls concept mentioned. Though I would also be on board for a Mr. Freeze villain plot, Batman sees the part of Freeze who just wants to save his wife. Great video as always, Double Toasted!

I love listening to you guys. It's like hanging out with my friends talking about movies. Unfortunately we're all older with children and don't have as much time anymore.

The Batman delivers the gritty noir style crime thriller I've always wanted to see in a Batman movie. It's a true detective story that explores the corruption of Gotham in much deeper way than we've ever seen on the big which extremely impressive following Nolan's trilogy. Of course all the performances are top notch and Robert Pattinson KILLED it as Batman! I think he succeeded in silencing many of the ignorant idiots and naysayers that were bringing up Twilight who clearly hadn't seen any of his work outside of that franchise.

I hope we get a training montage in the sequel where Alfred teaches Bruce how to be suave as fuck while simultaneously yelling at him for being an anti-social bum.

It's still a comic book character so I enjoyed everything. Car chase was awesome..but the character I need is CLAY FACE..I've been screaming for him.

One thing I disagree with on y'alls take (though I love this video) is the lack of emotional involvement. Though it's not as nearly as emotionally intense as The Dark Knight, I think this take was dead accurate in portraying someone who is legitimately traumatized. They will appear very closed off on the surface even when there is a great deal underneath. In some ways this interpretation was more emotional for me than other Bruce Wayne's because of the psychological accuracy. Though I can see how it would be difficult to identify with this character if your not an emo white dude from a wealthy family lol.

I want to see Mr. Freeze done right and Matt Reeves could make it work. He has to freeze people Korey, it's in his got damn name. A comic accurate Killer Croc or Clayface would be a dream come true.

So glad you guys did a second video on this one, it was worth multiple watches for me.

31:43 32:15 Korey's High pitched voice is hilarious to me for some reason along with pretending to be Catwoman is amazing here

The white dude ALWAYS says the most creative things 😭 ! Every breakdown and/or idea he says, I’m always like “YES !”. His understanding OF great movies AND putting together a great movie is insane 🔥

It would be AMAZING if it was revealed in a later movie that one of the people close to Bruce was Clayface the whole time. Like Gordon.

I love how if Batman had taken Intro To Spanish, we wouldn’t have had that chase scene lol

Absolutely loved the film so much. There are so many shots of Robert as Batman where he just straight up looks like Batman from the Arkham Game Series. Like the scene where he asks the twins to see Penguin at the Iceberg Lounge entrance.

This movie had a deep message and it made me take riddler way more serious like the Arkham games

Batman doesn't have disregard for human life, he avoids hitting any other cars, it's the penguin hitting cards, making them whip and flip and Batman is avoiding all of it all the time, I'm pretty sure the only thing he hit was a trash container. Pay attention if you're gonna make a point out of it.

Scarecrow would be a breath of fresh air to see. I would also love to see poison ivy especially if they keep with the theme of the renewal plan being a hoax. I think both would be great to watch in this grittier darker version

My only real other issue with this film is I didn't understand how a great detective with pointy ears, a symbol of a bat on his chest, that calls himself the Batman, took half the film to consider that a "rat with wings" might possibly be a bat. He actually didn't even figure it out....the Penguin had to clue him in. He answers most of the other riddles in a manner of seconds or minutes but the flying rat thing threw him off. Hopefully I missed something...maybe I nodded off at the 2 hr mark.

the BIGGEST part of the puzzle from the Riddler... Batman found out through the TV reporting on the Wayne's background.... Great detective work, Bats!

Given the family revelations in this one, it'd be interesting to do a Bane story that follows when he thought Thomas Wayne was his father and went to Batman for help figuring it out... And I keep hearing it, but Court of Owls is an OLDER Bruce story - if you do it without an adult Dick Grayson, it alters some very fundamental parts of that story...

I had a really good time with it! Finally getting Batman into a gritty detective story on the big screen was a good move. And seeing this type of Batman was also great, young and still working through his demons. The runtime was long, but I guess it felt justified given that there was so much ground to cover with the Riddler and Falcone. Selina was definitely underdeveloped and her kiss with Bruce felt really forced, and I agree they don't give you enough time to care about what she's going through. I'm not even sure if she and Annika were lovers or just friends or what. Also not enough time with Alfred either. So that's a bit ironic considering the runtime lol I am one of those people who believes this movie should have been rated R. I just don't see this as a movie for younger fans of Batman. There's nothing here for them. It's a very reserved movie all things considered and not the stuff younger kids wanna see in a superhero movie imo. If I was a kid, I think I would have been a bit bored tbh But that's just my take on it, I could be underestimating the kids and teens of today. But still, I firmly believe that more violence, more blood, etc. could have been the cherry on top for this movie. 9/10, excited to see the next one. PS. I left the theater and realized he only used the Batmobile once and I wasn't sure how to feel about that lol 😂

I just whish the mystery was more clever, I never really got that "Woah! WTF! I would have never saw that coming but it all makes total sense, how did I not see that!" moment I get with some of the episodes of the Batman the animated series.

I loved this movie, but some story choices took me out. How did a car crash into the wake of a dead mayor with all those cops in attendance. What type of security and police force does Gotham have where one mayor gets killed, another shot and then a funeral gets rammed by a car? Batman was scary and lurking in the shadows but no one was really scared of him. Paint face goons got beat up but they charged him with no fear. The cops weren't scared of him. Every goon in the movie wasn't scared of him either. They all fought him head on.

The next couple of series will be leading up to the court of owls-- remember even the criminals didn’t say who was running the show they would rather die🤔

Right. He messes up because he still hasn't healed and this is only year two. He hasn't mastered the Bruce facade yet. He hasn't mastered Batman yet. Like a year two teacher is still gonna make a lot more mistakes than a year seven teacher

I thought the person in the cell was two face. Dave Baptista would be great as Bane.

A good villain for this world is a calender man, that would make great detective work. Solving crimes that are holiday related.

Maybe I’m reaching but that scene where Batman had to put his hand over Catwoman’s mouth to stop them from being heard & her erratic reaction being even more justified with the context we’re provided with later in the film.

i’d like a Mr Freeze that worked at a morgue and kept his victims in those body chillers. It would be cool if the deal with his was was that he was an abuser and accidentally killed his wife and keeps her in one of the chillers in the morgue so that he still feels close to her or something fucked up like that.

Yo I fell out when Corey hit us with the better help.🤣

Two Face could totally work in this universe! And yes! I'm definitely down with a live-action adaptation of Scarface. How about Killer Croc? Or Black Mask?

My pick for a sequel villain would be Prometheus. He's the other side of Batman where his parents were murdered by cops. I think that would be great especially if you bring in real world issues like BLM and police brutality into the sequel.

And the most emotional I got and I loved it was when he saved the mayor and the rest of the people. Just him reaching out and taking her hand got me for some reason.

Alfred stated he learned some tricks back in his days "in the circus". Alfred will be the link between Batman and Robin.

THANK YOU DT…. been waiting for this! 😂

Only just started the video but I feel you've already miss-characterised the Waynes. They weren't in bed with Falcone or the mob, it was only in one moment of weakness that Thomas Wayne asked him for help not realising how far he'd go. It was also implied they died because they were about to expose him.

Honestly I'm still waiting for Man-Bat in a Batman movie. It can either be a really cool creature villian, or hilariously dumb. And I'm down for both

Opening monologue was perfection. And I really thought that was two face and not the joker. It really looked like the other half of his face was different.

Thank you Chris for mentioning the maybe venom. I lost my mind when I saw that and whispered to my buddy that’s venom! Bane is my favorite Batman villain and I think you have another movie where it shows Bane in prison and showing that origin. It would be nice to see a prison system in the Matt reeves reality of this world

I think one of the reason why we didn’t get too much into Bruce Wayne life is becuz. This version of the character doesn’t want to be Bruce. He believes the Batman is the only way to aid the city. It’s only by the end when he decides he has to be more then fear vengeful monster. This movie was so good. I really like it.

Enough time has gone by and after multiple watches I can honestly say this is my FAVORITE BATMAN FILM

You know when they were talking about the chase scene and killing a bunch of cops, I recently watched Gone in 60 Seconds and they went out of their way to show that the cops survived these horrific crashes as they were chasing the Nic Cage character. Literaly had a cop car get slammed by a wrecking ball and thrown throw a wall, and the cop driving it walks away!. The movie even made fun of itself and was like "Are you sure you're okay? You went through a wall?"

One thing the animated series did great with was showing how Bruce is not only Batman but a detective so I feel like to play this character you have to play 3 people. Pattinson nails it. I’m excited to see what he does with this character in future films if he comes back. And also adding on how it pushed the R rating; this film did something unique with doing tasteful violence that was partnered with great characters that you rooted for including the villains. Hollywood, using Alien vs Predator 2 as an example, thinks that to make an R film we want violence sex and gore but this film proves you CAN have a great story with all these things even with a PG-13 rating. So freaking well done

Mr. Freeze is probably one on the hardest characters but probably one of the best batman villain. There has not really been that sympathetic villian in any batman movie the Schumacher films tried it but it was a bit campy for the darker tone of what Victor Fries is and how he could further evolve the character of batman as well. With that said especially since these are more like detective movies, we need a court of owls movie.

Double Toasted is one of my favorite channels. You guys really have a lot of insight, and film knowledge I find very entertaining. You dive deep in and have fun with it as well. The Batman seems like an awesome movie. I might check it out one day. I have a great idea for a Batman movie, I’ve had this same idea for a Batman movie for over 5 years, but I’m too afraid to comment about it, because I get a feeling a lot of desperate Hollywood types look through the comment sections to get ideas. Lol.

Corey: "This isn't for selling toys..." Me: *sees a The Batman LEGO set in the store.*😂

When the Batman had its intro my theater was shaking more than any I’ve ever been to and it was absolutely an incredible experience

I just wish we could get one Batman series where there is no joker.

Id love to see Black Mask come in and try to elevate the mob aspect in Batman to semi-supervillain levels. He would be a good foil for a newly established Penguin. Then in the 3rd movie the court of owls can come in like oh all of that didnt matter because we have always been in control.

To be fair I thought Batman used venom to recover from the gunshot. Annnnd Chris just brought it up 😂

I've really enjoyed “The Batman” and it easily became my favorite Batman movie so far. But I have to say I am pretty biased. It is based on the Long Halloween and Year One, which are easily my two favorite comics. Two things: Regarding the Joker: I totally understand that many people don't want to see him, because in the past few years he has been done excessively. Many people say, that they don't even need him in this universe at all, which I understand. However, I believe if you do not include Batman's arch nemesis in some way, a lot of people would get the feeling that “something is missing”. I don't mind that Matt Reeves has revealed that the Joker indeed exists in this universe. I am even quite happy about that. But I don't want to see him in the next movie. Maybe the 3rd one. I also would love to see another Two-Face. Aaron Eckhart's Two-Face was great, but he barely got any screen time. It always seemed to me that Nolan was rushing the character development from Harvey Dent to Two-Face, because he desperately wanted to include him in the second half of the movie, only to kill him off at the end. Such a waste. Court of Owls would be great as well, because it is a quite new and unused thing. Bane is one of my favorite villains, but I don't need him in this movie. I cannot see how Reeves could do anything innovative with the character, and don't think he would fit into the general Noir-esque theme.

That would be incredibly interesting if the sequel has The Joker as a Silence Of The Lambs theme.

I just watched The Batman and Robert Pattinson definitely was badass as Batman. Paul Dano as Riddler was creepy yet like how he bought his own take to the character. Zoey Kravitz as Selina Kylie was good. Definitely excited for The Batman 2 where it goes from the cliff hanger. Colin Farrell as Ozwell Cobblepot was amazing.

Why are people insinuating the explosion that occurred during the chase is Batman's fault? If I remember correctly, it was Penguin who caused the tanker to explode, the only thing Batman did was take advantage of the ramp. If he did not speed up, he would have died along with anyone else caught in the explosion.

That better help ad 12 minute got me 💀

Funny, this was my first venture back into a theater since COVID, and there were a group of teens that talked through the entire thing. They've probably been cooped up at home, so I didn't have the heart to tell them to shut up. I can't wait to watch it at home.

I loved the use of something in the way by nirvana in the movie. It set the tone so well.

That's not Batman chasing Penguin that's Vengeance. He becomes The Batman by the end.

John Turturro steals every scene he's in. He's the scariest version of Carmine Falcon put on film.