The Beautiful GENIUS Of Steven Universe 

Love this

*sad mega mind noises

Pretty effective and touching for characters like Peridot and Jasper. Extremely problematic for characters like the Diamonds.

I agree: the diamonds are in essence dictators of a spacefaring civilization that exterminated countless species of organic life , and yet they are forgiven so easily. SU tried to do some intresting things but the over all prodcut is, if not bad, at the very least lack luster.

Amazing

Yeah, wasn't it revealed that Mojo was his lab assistant and made the prof spill chemical x into the mixture?

@@DeathGodRiku the "anger" Mojo has was from a superiority complex and wish for chaos its not from a "tragic backstory" even though he frames it as such in the movie they made.

Most of the shows he referenced had already had a conversation. The show is the aftermath instead of the encounter. Honestly, MLP:FiM falls into the SU category because it's not old villains returning, it's new encounters trying to solve the problem. And to be honest, the later seasons of even Supernatural had Sam and Dean and Cas asking monsters why and trying to find solutions before the murder.

If I remember correctly Mojo got jealous due to the professor's obsession with creating the girls, it was semi-tragic but turned out to be mostly fueled by selfishness. The show tries to make him sympathetic but always play it off as a self-sabotaging gotcha in the end. You can at least tell he's supposed to be more like Browser or Eggman than an out and out villain.

Yeah the ppgs did talked to him before but he still decided to be EEEVVILL!

Same. I refused to watch it as a kid because of the art style.

Favorite

Sammeee

I just did the exact same thing.

Seriously, no show runs as long as SU without having a few dud story arcs. The overall scope of their accomplishment is still hard to match, especially how it really does answer all its internal questions by the end of the series. Not only that, but it certainly seems like they had most of the answers established before the show even started. It's honestly refreshing when far far too many shows get lazy and take the JJ Abrams "mystery box" approach rather than actually doing real worldbuilding.

@@jasonblalock4429 no excuses. most of the storylines from seasons 3-5 were half assed.

If we take away the half-assed arcs and incomplete and mediocre character developments, the lore is probably the most fascinating out of all the shows that came out that era

@@remyhavoc4463 adventure time is far better than anything steven shittyverse pumps out.

FACTS

Some of the negetive videos actually bring up interesting and valid points. I love SU but it annoys me when fans write off all of the criticism as "hate".

@@chiefbeef6251 People bring up the same criticisms every time lmao. It’s annoying. If you’ve seen the Lily Orchard video you’ve basically seen all of them.

@@FalconsWarrior Okay, I don't necessarily agree, but I do understand your point. Sorry if I came off as aggressive in my last comment, I was in a really bad mood when I wrote it lol

TBF the show does have flaws, and some people do feel that it does mar the show down for them. But yeah it's far from the worst thing ever, just something that could be better in some aspects.

@@PlahaKumar Agreed

I like your approach. Most superhero writers nowadays would go the opposite direction and make their "heroes" edgy assholes because "it's more mature" and "nuanced". I was writing a fantasy story about a character that could "feel" the emotions of all people, particularly the negative ones, and felt moved to help them as a result. This was a very grimdark setting where horrible things happened to everyone, from wild beast attacks to cold-blooded torture, and this character had photographic memory, so it was always a terrible day. At one point he asks himself if he was helping others because he truly felt empathy towards them, or simply because he was selfish and he wanted the negative emotions of others to stop tormenting him... In the end, he finds more characters like him and decides to help them by cutting their connection with the emotions of others and taking them with him... Something that makes him go around in agonizing pain all the time... But turns out, he was truly wanting to help all along.

@@DonVigaDeFierro Awesome I'd love to discuss our stories together someday although preferably in a more private setting.

I was thinking that as he listed off a bunch of shows and Steven's character traits. >Tries to appeal to enemies moral sense or emotions. >Most of his enemies become his allies >Cries a lot Two out of three of those paired interchangeably describes about half of the most popular action cartoons and anime from the last 15-20 years. lol

@@OgIKidd It's almost like he's a shounen protagonist.

@@OgIKidd and that’s why anime is fucking dominating the western market rn. (That’s not me trying to be a fan boy it’s literally topping the charts rn shits wild)

@@theblackoutexplorer2658 @MangoTek The point that we're making is that Nerdstalgic presented these details as if they were unique to Steven as a character and Steven's Universe as a show when in reality.... these are just qualities and characteristics that carry most popular franchises to becoming successful in general. Hell, the things that people love so much about anime just comes from traditional literature and common storytelling. Invincible's big season 1 climax saw Mark defeat his merciless father by appealing to the man's heart and humanity when his fists absolutely failed him.... That came directly from the comic. Japanese manga and animation just happen to get away with it more broadly in today's market because Japan is a country with a more relaxed history regarding censorship and their Federal guidelines/laws than the US is. They never had a Comics Code, a Hayes Code, or a Christian Code of Authority/Decency restricting their creatives. Which is something that writers, artists, and animators still have to deal with (fuck 4Kids and the FCC) here in the US even if those particular organizations don't exist anymore. We're only just now being able to find ways around these common and highly enforced standards due to the modern convenience of the internet and Adult Swim. So basically, Steven isn't a "shonen protagonist," he's just "a" protagonist who's finally (mildly) free from archaic US censorship practices without fear of being slapped with an X rating like Frits the Cat was when it was released. lol

Absolutely, Optimus would always be diplomatic first, but it dries require good faith of both parties and... I mean, they're called the Decepticons. Good faith is basically unheard of.

Right

Yes

Sorry I don't like it

@@jamesaaron8578 that’s okay :)

What are wrong reasons you can like this show?!

The thing about White Diamond’s pivot is that it’s fascinating for how quick it is- the *instant* she perceives herself as anything other than perfect her entire worldview crumbles, and there’s something true to life in that being a very fast process, even if it’s not necessarily narratively satisfying.

To put it best when it was good it was amazing and when it was bad it was awful.

To be fair when the studio tells you your show is over because gay characters aren't allowed on tv you don't have much of a choice between a rushed ending or just making an unresolved cliffhanger ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Naw the characters and story suck.

@@buster3041 Not really, most of the characters are fantastic and the story is great its just the writing that brings it down on later seasons along with the not so great characters being poorly handled.

No its not even top 10 but i respect your opinion

I don't like it. I don't really hate it either, but I rather watch literally anything else. Why? Excluding the obvious reasons * cough coughthefandom cough cough * there are things I really don't enjoy about the show. The animation for example. Which is a shame because Rebecca Sugar isn't a bad artist at all... (And before anyone says "hurr durr just watch it!!"... I have up until episode 70-ish and then gave up.)

@@DonVigaDeFierro Yeah the fandom thing isn’t completely true. This happens with every fandom. A handful or hundreds of bad fans and everyone thinks all the fandom is toxic. You’re telling me the thousands/millions of people who are fans are toxic? No it’s the loud minority. I’m not saying Steven Universe didn’t have toxic fans but it’s more nuanced then people think. Also, a fandom shouldn’t colour anyone’s view of the show itself. Not saying you should enjoy the show just dislike it for tangible reasons.

@@highvoltage7797 I don't like the show and it's for tangible reasons, not because of things outside of it. Now, I didn't really want to, but addressing the fandom problem: Even a small and loud minority can ruin the whole thing for all people, and toxic fandoms are the exact reason why many people hate the show without having seen it, and the reason I never bother talking about my interests online. Still, I never have and still don't condemn _all SU fans_ for what a bunch of lunatics did. So, if you had that idea, you can rest easy because I don't think like that.

@@DonVigaDeFierro The animation of s.u. is great , not a master piece but very nice in its movement and colorfull; if the jokes dont get you or it boring to you is just your taste and its fine ; but the fandoms arent a thing to judge a show; literally u can just wach all the series and its done no one is gona magically know it and talk to u about it, u have to search for other people opinions, personally i never do that, i just wach if i like it and thats all, if u want something more dark wach infinity train , its great

@@damianamigo6630 "The fandoms aren't a thing to judge a show" *That's exactly what I've been saying and repeating, holy fu....*

I never knew that!

@@fantasticnerd7978 I just recently finished the series so it's fresh in my mind, but yeah Bloo got married to Sloppy Moe on a dare, and it surprisingly wasn't ever annulled (but it also isn't mentioned again in the 3 episodes after). So, like I said, not played seriously like the SU wedding, but it did happen

@@mattiesavannahpahl9934 Does it really count if it was done on a dare though?

@@mattiesavannahpahl9934 It's a dare, ofc it isn't serious cz bloo isn't gay

Well, some say the show has bad pacing.

The pacing is literally the show’s worst aspect

I found it a lot more enjoyable to just watch all the clips here on youtube

watch out for the end of season 5, that's when Cartoon Network was pressuring the crew to finish up and they had to cut a lot of corners to wrap up the plot

Don't start from the beginning lol it kinda sucks at first

You're in it for a ride, might as well enjoy!

So , did you like it?

Somehow no one complained about Catra and Hordak being redeemed despite them committing acts far worse than The Diamonds. To add further insult, no one called them out for their actions.

Yeah, i read that news but i'm afraid that news is a fake liberal kowtow and the show's crew lied to the interview to the point calling a show "Get woke go broke"

Yep empathy for lesbian space nazis

*fight

@@thelaw7701 no

@@ThePonderer good fite lmao

Yeah the show was written well in season one, but god damn so many issues with the writing. Season 5 with white suddenly being good........ Really?

100% this. Steven himself ruined the show for me. He gets rewarded for making mistakes that are, in reality, downright fatal. It only ever really works out in the end because everybody else cleans up his mess for him, or that he uses his powers that somehow just works when it's convenient for the story without providing any satisfying explanation at all as to why it resulted that way. His idealism is the worst type of idealism that should never be shown to kids: hyper-optimism. Things don't just become "okay" just because you think they'll turn out okay. Frankly, his optimism would make everyone around him suffer in real life. Thankfully, he's just a cartoon character but I'm quite afraid of the thought that kids of today would start to emulate his unsavory personality in real life.

My problem in the show actually stems from the forgiveness aspect. Like, sure, people like Peridot for example were just a cog in the machine, no need to be too harsh on them if they wanna flip sides, especially since the prospects for defectors were startlingly low and their exposure to non-gem races appears to also be rather low. But the diamonds? The diamonds were genocidal space nazis who didn't care if a planet had life, they'd go full planet wipe if it meant the continuation of their master race. That their kintergarden ships look exactly like viruses is not accidental, they're literally intergalactic parasites that drain planets to husks to continue their species and expand their empire. All that's not even mentioning what they do to their own kind via gem hybrids and forced fusions. You don't just forgive that shit just because they were going through some emotions.

I remember the exact moment I realized I the show was going downhill. It was after the Cluster episode where Steven was able to bubble it. As much I genuinely loved that scene, I felt such a strong shift in the writing of the show after that made me think “Wow, I’m gonna finish watching this show because I’ve already come SO FAR after so many hiatuses… but I’m never rewatching this show ever again”. And I still stand by that statement. I can respect the show, the voice actors and Rebecca for what they did to show to make it a safe haven for us gay kids during that time that it was all the hype, cuz that’s very much why I loved it. But it took way too long for this show to end, and that was kind of It’s downfall cuz it’s audience were all grown by the time it finished, and we were now old enough to finally see just how flawed it was. But in all honesty, despite the fact that I can now see it’s flaw, it still has its place in my heart and in our community. And I’m okay with that conclusion. I’m not unsatisfied with what this show ended up becoming, my best memories of mainstream television come from this show

See people love bringing that up. When they say that I feel they just watched a rant video and not the actual show. Because Steven didn't just forgive them. He considered them tyrants and was always still weary of being around them. He was just working with them and making them reverse as much damage as possible. And after he was done with that he wanted to go back home and not see them again. Ye he was using empathy to see where the root issue was with the Diamond conflict so he could resolve it. Doesn't mean he liked them and never said he forgave them. And the show doesn't make it out like they're redeemed. Just added more depth to them that shows their side of the issue. You can tell they're more or less going along with it for Steven(Pink's) sake. If Steven wasnt Pink Diamond they would all be dead. And Steven knows. Like he literally had a hallucination of murdering White cus of all that she caused. So ye he definitely didn't just forgive them.

Why would it be too late??

@@Nerdstalgic Omae wa mou shindeiru

was that a.... a threat?! lol

@@Nerdstalgic So many people been dieing this year and in 2020, and I just feel like I should tell you I like your videos before anything bad happens or something. 😅 Sorry if that came out the wrong way, but yeah, that was all though

@@bigbubbus No, that was not a threat

That is a bad thing. Cartoons aimed at children should not be indoctrinating them with political messaging

​@@folofus4815 "Gay people exist." isn't a political message. If anything, the ones who should stop "indoctrinating" children are the cartoon networks who insist on denying that non-hetero relationships exist.

@@folofus4815 the fact that you think gay rights is a political thing is hilarious. Holy shit dude

@@koops7719 It is explicitly a political thing. Just because it’s your politics doesn’t make it not political. 10 years ago nobody except leftist activists supported this perversion.

@@folofus4815 Then the people that didn’t suck, so who cares? Love isn’t political, and if it is, maybe that’s a bad thing?

Every large community has that one bad side

Lemme know what you think

@@Nerdstalgic I thought it was a very accurate summary of why I like Steven Universe. He prefers empathizing for his enemies rather than beating them up and calling it a day. Good work!

@@Jokin_Jake and he cries a lot too

Lots of people are on Thai bandwagon unfortunately

The dimonds just shouldn't of turned good. It was completely out of left field.

They weren't forgiven, they were given a chance to right the wrong they made/ to fix the damage they made/ to change for the better/ to be better.

@@iancacal6852 but those characters did something so horrible, no matter what they do it won't make up for what they did. They are god damned space nazis. The show was stupid to even attempt to "fix" that level of horribleness. Even if they were willing to change, they dont deserve that option.

@@KumaChrisVT fr

Granted tho he dose beat the shit out of people if he has to then asks what's up.

Good comment and i hate people calling it "SJW propaganda" and saying any people that enjoy it are as worse than autism and compared to SJW's

@@garibaldibritann1240 but it is SJW propaganda. Many of the gems are LGBTQ which doesn't add or change anything to the story.

Copyright probably

Ye, it was probably copyright claimed for the song

Agreed. It could have been, But it’s not.

Good thing it’s not your video then.

@@ThePonderer Yeah, It's all a matter opinion, agree to disagree.

why you so hurt over a show that can't even draw their characters in a consistent manner season-to-season. Good thing not everyone has to share your opinion.

"it would just be nice to see more actual criticism over just saying Steven universe sucks" That's the thing, there IS actual criticism. I've seen lots of people criticize this show with actual valid points. People don't "focus a lot on politics and use it as an excuse to dislike the show over writing", they actually criticize the writing and bring up good points about the shows flaws

@@chiefbeef6251 ah no i know that. I do think there is lots of valid criticism to made on the show, it's far from perfect. It's just that a lot of the arguments people were making in this specific comment section was focused on some of the more political things,while there was some good arguments to be made (example: white diamonds redemption being rushed) that makes more sense.

@@c.mdoeseverything1736 Ok yeah, that is true

Imo killing is never not bad. Sometimes it can seem (or actually be) necessary, but it's never not bad. Anyway, different worldviews aside, I do agree that the show could've done a much better job at handling that plotline. Maybe it would've, if it would've gotten more episodes (heard the studio wanted to stop the show cuz gay stuff bad or something?).

I'd say they're more space colonialists than space nazis, but more importantly, they're basically gods, and Steven can't actually defeat them with any conventional means. To say that he went easy on them is a bit weird. He used empathy to convince the gods to stop being evil. And as SU Future shows, he doesn't redeem them as much as he tolerates them because that's the only way to get them to give up on their conquests. He doesn't even seem to like them and he usually tries to avoid them. Also, I don't recall where I saw this but in a video that discusses how SU is a trans allegory, they argue that the diamonds, although when taken literally are evil space conquerers, are actually an allegory for family members who at first refuse to accept Steven (they call him Rose, i.e. his "deadname") but eventually learn or at least try to be okay with the idea. So if that's the allegory, should Steve and thus trans people kill their family members who refuse to accept them as trans? Probably not.

@@ShirDeutch I do believe the "Diamonds being an allegory for unsupportive/un-empathetic conservative parents" was very intentional, I could be wrong so please don't quote me on this but I think I saw a RS quote that confirmed this at one point? Would love a fact check on that

One thing the show never addresses that I really wish they would have is what the gems do in the "new age". Killing the planet was a side effect of them "giving birth" to new gems. Are they just... Never creating another gem ever again? It is a rather big question and makes the whole rebellion much more nuanced because they weren't killing the earth and humans because they were evil, but because that is their life cycle. Could have been an interesting plot to explore

@@Chaosmancer7 I have always wondered about that part of the show. I just made the theory that maybe they're gonna create gems through other means now since they're stopping gem production at the cost of a planet's life. Or they stop overall. Who knows?

Why?

@@ThePonderer its bad

@@orlandotheg1923 debatable

@@ThePonderer ok well not just the finale, the final pieces as a whole were awful, future, white diamonds bad character writing, rehashing of old arcs that were established to be over, a treatment for shattering, undeserved endings for certain characters, and just Change Your Mind as a whole except for its few incredible moments, this is coming from a place of love, I just felt so let down by one of my most favorite shows ever, you know? And there's way more that this show does wrong, but also a lot that it does well.

@@orlandotheg1923 Get a life dude, stalking comment sections making sure you let everyone you disagree with know it is p pathetic

Nope

Remeber they had 100 episodes a season...If that isnt enough time to make a character arc in a monster of the week show then they have NO Character to speak of.

Thank god Steven Universe had only 5 seasons instead of 8, otherwise a lot more filler than the plot and that will cause people to critize the show even more.

How do you know?

The last episode of the main series be like

Appreciate it!