The Beginning of the End for Deion Sanders in Colorado? | The Bill Simmons Podcast 

There was no way Bill and Ryen could have had this conversation without bringing on a black guy 😂😂

Nothing destroys a locker room faster than favoritism. Deion did it to himself.

This was a 2 year experiment to get Sheduer to showcase his skills and be a first round picks. Almost all of your freshman that you recruited have transferred. When you build a program, you develop the your young kids and build them for 3 years. This is not happening. All he is doing is swapping backups. If he was truly building a program he would have focused on his recruits and just filled in the blanks with transfers. But his son had 2 years to play so this was the focus: Showcase his son...

Saying you’re “about God” and then using your X account as a bully pulpit to chirp college kids is not consistent

I was born and raised in Boulder, so I have been following the team for a long time. There are criticism of Deion that are completely legitimate, but I didn't hear any of them in this segment. Van is acting like Colorado got killed in conference last year, and that's just not true. They lost 42-6 to Oregon and 56-14 to Washington State. Other than that, every game was within one score. Compare that to the previous year when they went 1-11 with an AVERAGE margin of defeat of 30 POINTS! Yes, it's messy. And yes, I would've loved to see them win some of those close games (the Stanford loss hurt the worst), but I can't tell you how much nicer it is to see a team go and be competitive rather than be one of the worst teams in the entire country. The kids that were on the team before he came in had to transfer out mainly because they were just bad at football. If you measure his tenure based solely on wins and losses, he has clearly been a massive success. If you measure his tenure on attention and revenue generation, you could argue he's the best hire in college football coaching history. Now, do I think he'll leave for greener pastures when his kid gets drafted to the NFL? Absolutely I do, and then the team will be back to square one.

DEION PRE-SEASON: "My luggage is Louieee.....WE HEREEEEEEE !!!!!" DEION'S TEAM POST-SEASON: "Are we there yet ????"

Deion just a used car salesman. Once his son get drafted he'll be done with coaching. i

The inability to coach up the offensive line in 2023 was humiliating. Prime’s lack of understanding about the importance of the run game, was/is embarrassing

Where's Bill's hat? If this were the Magnificent 7, Bill would be the first to die.

Coach Sanders @ Jackson State won 4 games in 2020, 11 games in 2021, and 12 games in 2022! Nearly 40 players transferred his first year at JSU. Would everyone please relax and let things play out😊

Dion coaching at Colorado is like a director/actor making a massive vanity project.

Bill didn’t get the memo 😢

As long as his son gets his 1st round selection that's all he cares about. He's not hiding this fact at all and will leave once his son goes to the NFL

Van Latham doesn’t know anything about football 😂🤣🤣

Shadeur is their identity! As long as he gets his stats, that's all that matters around Colorado this year

"Lavar Ball with a headset." 😆

Can not blame "learning on the job." Basic manners (There are plenty of new coaches each of the years since Twitter came into existence, none of them adults beefed with adolescents) should have prevented this mess.

Van R U serious?

Its all about deion and that will never change

“Do you believe?” “It’s not my job to believe.” Perfectly stated Ryen!💯

TBH, Deion Sanders comes off as the rich man’s Lavar Ball the more I listen to him. Obviously Deion is an uniquely accomplished athlete and his Bravado has more of a basis in reality, but the rhetoric, scandal ridden teams/leagues/schools built around your progeny, and the mid-game merchandising seem like a record I’ve definitely heard before.

We judged Deion based on the content of his character and we were ALL called the "Big R" word for it when this was always laughably obvious to ANYONE with even a shred of common sense. Deion is a hustler. It is ALWAYS about him and only him. He has literally been that way from the second he had the national spotlight put on him. And just to be clear, having kids who aren't actually talented enough to be on the team transfer off of the team and then having those kids react negatively to how they were treated IS NOT even the problem here. That's not even the red flag. As was said in this clip, finding disgruntled former college players from ANY program is not difficult to do. The difference is that Nick Saban never went to the media and trash-talked those former players after they were gone...NO MATTER WHAT THOSE PLAYERS SAID ABOUT HIM OR THE PROGRAM! You never saw Urban Meyer or any of the all-time-great college coaches EVER do something that trashy. That is because those great men are intelligent enough to understand that the glory comes from the success their programs have over an extended period of time. Nobody would want to hear Urban Meyer or Nick Saban talk about college football on TV if their programs finished with four wins every year and they didn't have championship rings on their fingers. Those coaches achieved fame and fortune BASED ON THEIR COACHING ABILITIES! Not their self-promotion abilities. Guys like Saban don't even WANT to talk to the media. Deion wants an entire media circus around him every time he opens his mouth. Deion is all about Deion. About drawing attention to Deion. About gaining more fame for Deion. And that is even true when it comes to his own son. He wants to be able to brag that HE turned his son into a high NFL draft pick and a good NFL player. It's not just about his son having success...it's about being able to take THE CREDIT for his son having success. He literally could not care less about any other kid on that team. Coaches like Saban, Meyer, etc, want success for ALL of their players. Deion wants success for his son, and whatever happens to the rest of the kids on his team isn't his problem. That's the difference.

Great discussion the Ringer is always on point. Deion has to produce this year with wins bottom line as you all stated. Hopefully the program will turn around.

I'm looking at Colorado Buffaloes 2024 schedule, and I see them going 2-10, 3-9 or if they're lucky... 4-8😢. They will catch a beatdown almost every game. You will have shows like Undisputed on Colorado campus interviewing Deion again. An that will lit that fire 🔥 in other teams and hype them up to destroy them. Listen to what I'm saying yall, Deion and the Colorado Buffaloes will have a more disappointing season this year than last year. They will finish 2-10 or 3-9😮

Bill- you watch undisputed? 😂😂😂😂 shots fired lol

Everyone saying chill it’s been one year.. Deion came in saying he had designer luggage and he’s here to change things now. He didn’t say oh in 2 years we’ll be good he came in putting more pressure on the team so don’t try to backtrack his comments now.

Wow!, really Van😡

Why does media act like they didn't know Deion was planning on leaving as soon as his sons went to the NFL? What's crazy is a college football program hired a guy just so he could be nepotistic for 2 years and then leave.

Deion was one of my fave players as a kid. He was cool, versatile and had great shoes. He also seems like a great dad. The coach prime /analyst/social media guy doesn’t do it for me. Can he coach? He seems like an And-1 mixtape coach. Just roll out the ball and get it.

My issue with Dion at Colorado is that his entire approach is so dramatically different to that from his previous stent at Jackson State. It’s almost like he got the Colorado job because of what he did at Jackson State, as well as his profile - but as soon as he got to Colorado, he completely changed his coaching and management style. If memory serves, he didn’t turn over the roster at Jackson State nearly to the extent, nor was he dependent on the portal over traditional recruiting and player development. I think there was more stability with the coaching staff, too. From an outsiders perspective, it looks a lot like he lacked the confidence to apply what made him successful at an FCS program while now on the main stage of a power five job.

At Colorado if you leave you didn’t want to compete yet there bringing in a whole roster that didn’t want to Compete at their previous school

Who would have thought that the "Prime Time Coaching Extravaganza" would have been more flash than substance

He’s been the coach of CU for 1 year. Y’all act like Alabama was built over night.

I will say it brings to light continuity of the program with players coming and going

Most of the Colorado fans are just looking at Deon's popularity his resume as a coach is not proven, but the fans and Deon himself must remember the players are the stars and not the coaches.

Deion's been there ONE F--KING YEAR and these 3 non-coaches are killing him

The "do you believe" comment was strange

Van doesn't even know what an I-formation is. Yet he can say a program is lost? "Losing transfer portal guys" They got better players coming in than those that left. The misinformation is the reason I stopped watching mainstream TV

Keep going Colorado! 💪🏾 They still watching and talking!!!

Colorado gave their program to Deion and his boys. When they're gone Colorado fans will look around and see the only thing that's changed is the crap they've always been standing in is to their waist and not their knees.

Cousin Eddie made a hamburger helper sandwich with no ground beef. Straight helper

There is no rule stating that you cannot comment back to someone that is commenting about your School and they retaliate by doing the same thing and it rubs you the wrong way so what. if someone tried to put a bad image on my name, I would defend myself if you’re feelings get hurt maybe you shouldn’t speak bad on someone’s name. As one of the best football players, no one can comment on how he go by things. He is already one of the best football players. his son will be in the first round Travis also. the player that chose to jump in the portal was a mid average player that’s the truth.most people don’t like the truth so they find things to more upset them. Some people expect for people to talk about them and not to say anything back. someone told me you can’t get upset because someone didn’t do something that you would have done. I will listen to a Hall of Fame player and a first round draft pick before an average player. If your feelings get hurt, or you don’t have enough confidence maybe you’re in the wrong sport

He did some of the same similar things at JSU during the 2 years he was there. Someone should interview some of his former JSU players. The God & family thing was a major topic at JSU. JSU did finish 7-4 with a depleted team, and all new coaches & trainers. Go 🐅

As you can see from my prior reply, I really did have something to get off my chest so I want to thank everyone for listening😂😂

I'm a CU/Deion fan. They weren't as good or as bad as people said last year. They've had turmoil, but they also have talent and real coaches. If they execute sound game plans (e.g., run the ball, and stop the run), they can win more than they lose. If Shedeur is a #1 pick, then they should win 8+ games. Anything short of that would be a disappointment.

repost check out prime academy fiasco before Jackson state smh....i was NEVER on board bc how he treated the kids and his staff!! Washington post article smhh

I listened intently to this entire conversation, and it appears that there is destain because of how norms are being challenged. However, none of the panelists seem to have a true understanding of how barriers are broken, especially in football. As someone who has successfully overcome obstacles and broken barriers as a businessperson, I would advise the panel to adopt a wait-and-see approach regarding Coach Prime. If the team succeeds and has a winning season, what could you say to justify your previous criticisms? How would you explain the discrepancy between your predictions and the team's performance? I understand that you're in the business of generating clicks and profits, which is perfectly reasonable. However, for those of us observing from the sidelines, we're in a wait-and-see mode after this season. If the Deion leads the team to a successful year, it will significantly diminish the credibility of the opinions expressed on this panel about his coaching abilities and ability to change a culture within a power five football program. Deion has been a winner all of his life and I would NEVER bet against him.

Van is an Oscar Winner, salute. Now! what happens when they win in the Big12?

The beginning of the Black College Football Coach HATE TRAIN staring 2 white boys and commentary from a random black guy which makes it OKAY 🤣🤣🤣

Jealousy is a disease get some help 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

Yal forget that Colorado only won 1 game the year before Deion got there.

Love Van But this what he does talk about other people for a living. Drake was right about Ozempic smh Pure Hate. Other coaches are doing and going through the same thing Coach prime is going through but because they aren’t Coach Prime no one cares. The Hate for one man is pure Jealousy and it is evident at this point.

Deion is a highly paid AAU coach who wants his fav kids to shine and will move on shortly to a new group of favorites.

How can it be the beginning of the end of coach prime in Colorado and the only ppl hating on him is everyone but ppl in Colorado they loved Deion . He is doing things his way and these media ppl don’t like it. I mean every school has ppl leaving big whop but ppl leave Colorado it’s national news like really. Then ppl say he did all of this in two years that to much turn over well this is a different times kids can transfer as they please meaning if they ain’t playing they leaving that not his fault coach already said he ain’t begging a kid to stay

Van, you’re doing what you accuse Acho of doing. Shame on you.

Like the guys said, I wanted Deion to succeed because it was fun. But, he’s conducted himself like a total jerk. Completely favoring his sons and mistreating players on the way out. No class whatsoever.

They got a look at me coach.

The hats are all I needed to know

How does guy in middle know what you can or can't do in today's College game..Never had unlimited transfers before...Well I've followed Deion and he hasn't cared what others say and i like that..

Using a black guy to speak sports but hasnt watched how sanders did the same thing at jackson state. I love the copout of i love deion sanders blah blah

Damn I didn’t know Van was on this show 🔥

Great breakdown. I was on the Deon train. And I still like him and the team. But...There are a lot of big questions and concerns

Best Buffs take on the dark sports Web. They were undressed after winning that CS game, which I won. Made a lot of $$ off Prime because like most of the casuals, Vegas didn’t get who they were either at the beginning of the season. Hope to repeat that with the first two games, that first game will be closer than Vegas realizes. Everything Van & RR said is not only 1000 but no other national pundits are talking about it at this much depth; their silence is deafening and they smell of fear. The shows that cover for Deion’s mistakes weren’t real sports shows to begin with and this subject only further clarifies their existence.

So last year the first year right ok I thought so and this year will be the 2nd right ok I thought so saying we don’t know what they have as a team doesn’t mean he don’t know what he doing or he don’t know what it takes to be a coach go look at every school transfer portal numbers they all have guys that have left so because Colorado has guy in the transfer portal and Deion is the coach is the only reason yall sitting here making content on it he shouldn’t say n do a lot that’s true but let’s not act as if that’s not the person you are a fan of who been very outspoken since the 80s

Bill not wearing a hat -- doin his best to remind everyone he's an only child.

These guys do know that Colorado has less transfers than other p4 schools plus this is year 2 nobody is expected to do anything till year 3 when you are doing a complete rebuild

Jackson State was Deion's Peter Principle peak.

I think people have a hard time understanding the type of home Colorado was in a program: They are behind UTAH for prestige in the last 25 years. They were worse off than NEBRASKA. They were 1-11 with an average loss in the Pac-12 of 30 points. Deion going there is GREAT for the program. At this point, I expect them to be probably 6-6 at best this upcoming year. Again, this is with 2 guys viewed as 1st round guys conservatively. Their depth is still an issue and will rear is head during the season. Maybe he stays, maybe he leaves but Colorado football is in a much better place regardless. I think they have a good chance to be viable in the Big-12 (to me they're 1 of the winners in the conference realignment).

FR Van kept it 100

EVERYONE IS LOSING PPL IN THE PORTAL. This is the new age in college football. Since when are walk ons big to talk about in a program

Now talk about Georgia and their portal bruh!, how many kid's are leaving? They never talk about that.

“You watch Undisputed??” 🤣🤣🤣

What was Bill talking about ? @9:54

Dieon was an amazing athlete and one of the best corners ever. Now....... Does no one have the balls to say He is there to get his kids to the league and doesn't give a damn about anyone or anything else.

Go and watch the interview Jason Whitlock conducted last season with some ex-Colorado players. The way they say Deion treated them is despicable. He should not be coaching young, impressionable men. His "building men" persona is totally overblown. And crying racism over every critique is a horrible message to send to hisplayers AND his race. There's already a huge surplus of victim-minded blacks.

bill got 8 cents of product in his hair, like hell he's gonna wear a hat.

They will be eating crow like a mf

It's been one year, and he took over one of the worst teams in college. Its gonna take some time.

Mentioning Deion Sanders in Colorado people think that brings them attention haters going to hate, but players participate, let's Buff

Skip Bayless catching strays 😂

Russilo's cowboy hat is on backwards

It APPEARS that they believe if you don't check your detractors you are weak. They need to be more tactful. Being tactful is not weak in my opinion. CU needs to hire a Public Relations specialist and do what the P.R. Firm tells them what to do. It worked for A-Rod and many others.

“Empty swag burger” gonna have to use that. There are so many people I want to call an empty swag burger.

"Deion is not a coach. He's a team mom with a golden whistle" - Uncle Lou

Bro. You selling out like that? WOW.

Everyone gets a mulligan their first year. If it still looks like this after year three, CU has to assemble a search committee.

I actually think Prime is a good coach but he's hindered by the fact he's also the quarterback's Dad. He will be much better next season.

Colorado has two 10 win seasons since 2001. 16 years finishing .500 or less… the 90s glory days of Kordell Stewart, Brian Westbrook, Rashan Salaam, Deon Figures, etc are loooong gone. Colorado has had no cache for the past 20-30 years. They haven’t gotten this much attention in God knows how long. Deion is safe. They’re generating money and attention. That’s all that matters to them currently. And, sports has always been about favoritism…. Deion is just doing what most coaches and leaders are afraid to do. He is, who he is

College football is not a mess the ratings this season were the highest they’ve been in years it’s a new time new era the players era

They Went 4-8 but they act like they won national title

Wow. Russillo looks way better, covering that dome with a hat.

Filtering players from a 1-11 team is different from filtering players from a 4-8 team. And its as simple as that.

Ryens hat is on point 🤝💯🤠

Where'd they find Cowboy Tom?

Who could have seen this coming?

Let's be honest here, this was always about getting Sheduer to the NFL. Once that is done Deion is good.

This a hit piece on coach prime lol. If I hear another person talk about players are leaving I’ll go crazy. This is the transfer portal area kids are leaving every program in America. Alabama lost a lot of there starters. Plus they never talk about the level of skill coach prime has brought to that program smh.

Deion is & always has been about Deion. He is there to protect & enable his overrated sons...His claims to be a Christian are the worst of all as I read my Bible...But ONLY the Lord knows...

So the same media who were trying to make Prime the next Saban are now saying it’s over, even though literally no college footballs has been played since last year and their main criticism is everyone rushed to judgement on Prime? Da F? Pot, meet kettle….

The roster is 10 times better than last year smh.