The Best and Worst Elite Fours in Pokemon 

Happy JPR Friday!! Which Elite Four is your favorite?

Malva was so weird to me. I never knew if she was joking or not when she said she was in team flare because they just never expand on it.

Coincidently there just so happens to be 4 types left remaining without an Elite 4 specialist. Here's hoping Gen 10 gives us a Grass, Electric, Normal & Fairy quartet.

Arguably one of the biggest crimes here is that Bruno still has an Onix in the Johto games. Disregarding that there are even more fighting types now, Steelix was literally introduced in the same gen! “But Steelix is Jasmine’s ace!” Hasn’t stopped other E4s from using gym leader aces before or after; Onix is literally Brock’s ace, they’ve been doing this since the start.

My favorite is the unova elite four. Their battle theme rocks and their personalities are so interesting especially Caitlin and Grimsley. Fun fact: For those to hadn’t noticed, their type specialties all counter each other. Marshal is strong against Grimsley, Grimsley is strong against Shauntal, Shauntal is strong against Caitlin, and Caitlin is strong against Marshal.

I’ll never understand why: GameFreak had Lance & Agatha specialize in dragon & ghost types respectively, when there was one fully evolved pokemon of those types in gen 1. Why Bruno had TWO Onixes when he could have had Poliwrath & Primape Why Karen didn’t have a Sneasel & Tyranitar over Gengar & Vileplume Why Phoebe & Glacia specialized in a type that didn’t have enough members for a full team in Hoenn Why Aaron have Beautifuly& Dustox over Mothim & Wormadam? And Flint’s DP team… It makes 0 sense 😂

Im still puzzled as to why they took the option to rematch the Elite Four out of Scarlet and Violet. It just seems like an unnecessary thing to remove, cause I don't think it takes up any extra space. So why remove it? Another fun video as always!!

To me, Kanto Elite 4 kinda specialize in 2 types- Lorelei: Ice, Water Bruno: Fighting, Rock Agatha: Poison, Ghost Lance: Flying, Dragon Unova's maybe my favorite, with Sinnoh & Paldea not too far behind, though the competition isn't stiff when it comes to E4.

I think the thing about Unova E4's type choices is that they are types that are strong against each other: Dark -> Ghost -> Psychic -> Fighting -> Dark

“Bringing an onix to the elite four is like you’re trying to lose!” Agreed jpr we’ve all seen the clip

As often in Paldea, the best part is clearly the characters. I love how they interact with each other between battles, and how they all appeared during the story, it really helps flesh them out. Though, the absence of rematches is kind of a shame. Sure, the Academy Tournament is here for infinite trainer battles, but they finally changed how the league works to address the plot hole of the old champion still being champion even after you beat them, and then they don't even do rematches.

“Gym Leader becoming an Elite 4 member hasn’t been done outside of Alola.” Is Koga a joke to you?

Prior to Gen 9, I find it kind of funny that the 3 cutest Elite Four members just also happened to be the 3 cutest _ghost_ type specialists. Having not played Scarlet & Violet, I outright burst out laughing seeing Poppi α show up.

They should've made a Grass E4 in Hoenn instead of Glacia. Also it's crazy still no Grass, Electric, Normal and Fairy E4.

Bruno not having Primape and Poliwrath still baffles me to this day and they didn’t fix it in either remake (ok edit they did half fix it in let’s go but he still doesn’t have primape)

I love the Alolan elite 4 music. That alone makes them memorable to me. But yeah, not being able to rechallenge the Paldean elite 4 is strange. It shouldn’t be that hard to flavor a reason for rechallenging them, even with the ace tournament. It’s just bizarre that they would remove the option.

Hot take I wish there were more dual type/themed elite fours, Kanto gets criticism for its members dipping into other types but all four characters have a theme and stick with it. Even in universe trainers that are on the elite level should know that restricting yourself to one type isn't necessarily good, although he is a champion Steven also does this very well

Johto had Karen she is not only a good waifu but an amazing trainer with some good statements about battling with our favorites,Sinnoh had a Ground Type Grandma,and Gen 5 had a Frontier Brain as a Psychic User.

you hated the alola elite four? whaaaaaaa? that one's great! I love the aesthetic of a crystal-filled cave buried in a mountain, and i think having the E4 being a group of people you've (mosty) fought before rules. Weren't you just complaining about some of the e4 having no backstory? Heck, id even go to bat for Kahili-she's one final surprise trainer before the end.

You know for a fact JPR has immaculate taste for putting Karen & Rika in the thumbnail.

I feel like Kalos' Elite 4 is so underrated

Not sure how Gen 5 ends with a neutral. One of the best E4’s out there

The worst gotta be Paldea, not because of the trainers i kinda like their designs and teams its the fact that they battle in a big empty shed, all the others had at least a room for each one since Red and Blue

I do appreciate how Wikstrom van catch you off guard by approaching you instead, especially if you tend to save scum right before you talk to them to initiate the fight

Galar by far has my favorite league. I love how it's an actual tournament and you don't always know who you'll be fighting.

I thought Paldea’s Elite Four had probably the coolest experience of any Elite Four out there. The interview at the beginning, and having each battle sort of overlap into the next one with characters actually interacting with one another made it way more than just a set of battles. Not to mention it features a goat design character in Rika, a literal baby, freaking Larry, and Hassel who has tons of character, which also makes for one of the coolest E4 rosters ever IMO too. Idk where I’d rank them necessarily, but I’d say they’re at least top 3 if not higher.

I will not accept any larry slander

The elite 4 is one of the moments in pokemon i look forward too and I have to say, Hoen Unova and Alonan are my all time favorite. I enjoyed the music, I love the looks, I dont mind them using the same pokemon or lack of pokemon. So may of not ranked super high, to me these 3 were top notch. Difficult(hoen when i was a lot younger haha) Unavoa and Alonan were just simply amazing

Unova's E4 basically had the while rock paper scissors weakness chain like starter Pokémon

Malva deserved better, it's implied that Flare had control over the media and she was censoring their involvement, and her double agent role for Flare in the E4. Like, she keeps the region up to its strongest Trainers in the dark. But all of Kalos is wasted potential.

So the thing with Unovas types is the themes they have. Yeah I know, its still the same stick of dark, ghost, psychic and fighting but heres the thing: they all kinda represent the whole 'best of the best' thing and the four things that would make up an expert. Training the body: Fighting Training the mind: psychic Training the spirit: ghost Training the soul: dark The elite four of Unova are actually called the heavenly gods in japanese, so it kinda makes sense they would reflect that.

In defense of Paldea, we can say that it's the first Elite Four that, along with Alola appears through the story before challenging them, so they take their time to establish them and give them a personality, instead of being a bunch of four random guays that suddently you have to beat them before challenging the Champion.

I feel like Kalos’ elite four both should and shouldn’t be the worst.

When I saw the thumbnail it looked like Bruno was hugging Rika

-"Its cool that larry doubles as an elite four member and a gym leader. Thats never been done except for alolas kahunas." Rip Koga, you were forgotten in a timespan of 10 minutes. 😅

To be honest, and I don't know if this is sacrilege or not. But say what you want about Galar, the gym challenge in that game was incredible. A fun new mini game concept beforehand, interesting characters, unique gigantamax pokemon for every leader (except my guy Milo), A STADIUM, and a bracket-lile tournament at the end which has always felt like the correct way to determine your champion. It is an event and it is amazing.

My favorite E4s are Sinnoh and Alola. Sinnoh for being the most (and only tbh) challenging E4. Alola for being the only E4 with somewhat fleshed out roles (Kahili is still cool though). Paldea’s is pretty cool but Poppy is forgettable. Kalos E4 has the best designs and themes don’t @ me.

Unova Elite Four: we are the toughest trainers My Scrafty: I am become death

Glacia actually does leave the elite 4!!! She can found in the Battle food court in New Mauville! I never knew that Drake or Sydney left the elite 4 though, that’s cool!

I think it’s a cool head cannon that the unova elite four were healing their mons and had to use their weaker 4 member team since they just fought N. This also makes sense why you didn’t become champion after beating N

I understand most of your points...EXCEPT FOR ALOLA ELIT 4 MUSIC! WDYM ITS NOT THAT GOOD!? ITS A FRIKING BANGER!

My favorite thing about the E4 in Paldea is I walked in blind and yet my team had all their aces 😅

I’m convinced Hassel adopted Poppy after she followed Rika home from the hardware store one day.

Did some research into whether or not Nemona could successfully take on the Elite Four with her 7th Gym team, and it’s about as you’ve discussed in the video. Rika and Poppy are slow enough for a lesser team to run setup against, Larry is lacking some punch aside from Staraptor and Flamigo, and Hassel is such a step above the rest that it would specifically require a speed-boosted Quaquaval Air Slash flinching till she runs dry followed by everyone else with priority moves cleaning up after. Oh, and Geeta is so pathetic that the weaker Nemona would basically be an even match for her.

Honestly surprised gen 3 is considered one of the best considered how ridiculously easy it is to cheese every single member with a Plusle / Minun, or a Linoone.

I am not a fan of Scarlet and Violet, I played it for 150 hours and stopped. My favorite thing in the elite four was how Rika had a cool animation for throwing her ball

as a kid playing pokemon blue, I always assumed that the elite 4 in kanto werent bound by the same rules as gym leaders. If they had to use one type only then they really are just gym leaders by another name. The Kanto elite four use pokemon that suit their personalities while gym leaders use pokemon that align with their type preference. Bruno isnt a fighting type specialist, he is a fighting specialist and uses pokemon that a reclusive fighter in the mountains would use. He has fighting pokemon to train alongside and rock type pokemon to train against and practice moves on, like the fighter who trains alone in the mountain breaking boulders with his fists. Agatha is the witch who lives in the swamp brewing potions and pisons, summoning spirits and creating plagues and so she uses ghost and poison type pokemon. Lorelei is the oceanic scientist who studys pokemon that live in the ocean which include both water and ice types. Lance is the master of the sky, the guy who travels the world, soaring through the sky and uses pokemon that you would consider rulers of the sky which in many mythologies tend be leviathans and dragons like Gyarados and Dragonite. i also rather like the idea of the elite four not being type restricted, and being elite trainers who use pokemon that suit their personalities and lifestyle rather than having a type preference. Its also more challenging, and by that time in the game you clearly understand type matching, now you need to show you can win without relying on using one pokemon to sweep a whole team. Mono typing the elite four can make it trivial if you know what type they use, and having type advantages doesnt prove you are a better trainer or the best trainer. Beating Brock on your first try after picking Squirtle doesnt mean you are better than someone who lost to him on their fist try after picking Charmander. I would very much like to see the elite four in future games not be so restricted by type restrictions that make little sense, of course a trainer who is alowed to use any type of pokemon will beat trainers who only use one type, thats a huge advantage. If you were competing in VGC tournament and everyone had to use mono type teams except one guy, you would totally consider that an unfair advantage.

"This guy gave me fits bad enough to get my gameboy taken away as a kid, and I respect him for it" 😂😂😂 Such a relatable quote, honestly how I was with Candice in gen 4 😂😂😂 And yesss so happy despite gen 4s elite 4 being very forgettable that they're still some of the best 😂 we had to have the strongest elite 4 to go with the strongest champion! 💪

I actually enjoyed BDSP, and loved the wildly challenging E4. I drifted from Pokémon as a teenager so didn’t play the originals, but I’m glad to have gotten the Sinnoh experience that I got

Fun fact, Rika doesn't have a single Pokemon with a BST over 500. That is truly disappointing.

Marshal in Black & White gave me nightmares!

Would’ve liked to hear your opinions on Galar’s “Elite 4”. Yeah, while there isn’t an official one, it’s the same from a gameplay mechanic - you have to defeat 4 pre-determined trainers before being able to face Leon

Alola had a great league really and it was not really boring, it looked cool and very league like and it was interesting how they were suspended battle arenas. It is interesting aesthetically and musically and it does not really feel AI made at all. It is more polished then most past leagues and actually has people you care about and that affect the plot. It really is not one of the worst leagues.

The Unova Four were themed into two dark and two light types.

While truthfully listing all their faults, you forgot to mention the biggest pro for the Alola E4 you criticised elswhere: These character's arent one-offs, they aren't nobodies. We know these people. Most we've met several times. This is the best characterized Elite Four. We know where they live, what positions they had/have before joining the league, what their regular jobs are and a lot more stuff. We learned Kahili just came back from overseas for the league. Acerola just got in because Nanu turned down the offer. Hala was literally the guy who gave you your starter and watched your journey begin. Molayne started as a trainer together with the professor! This should have been mentioned. Also these Elite Four don't need to explain to you why they train certain types - they train them because they fit their background and characters.

I do actually agree with everything you say, I mean... Facts xD However I must say that the Alola League theme for the battles against the Elite Four is actually pretty cool! In my opinion, Hoenn, Unova, Alola and Paldea have really cool Elite Four themes. As for fav Elite Four... As a whole I'd say Hoenn out of pure nostalgia, Paldea because of how different and wholesome they are and Unova just because. And Karen is my fav Elite Four member.

Unova's elite 4 are also based on the character archetype of the 4 demon generals. Shauntel is death, Grimesly is greed, Marshal is Wrath and Caitlin is ironically sloth.

Am I the only one who found it a little odd that the developers reused a Gym Leader (Larry) as an Elite Four member, yet they had said character specialize a different type than before (unlike in Alola)? It's unique, sure, but a part of me felt like, at that point, you may as well have just used a new character.

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I love how the Paldea League really feels like a team or a family cuz we actually get to see them interact. Rika's the one keeping it all together, Hassel can get very emotional and needs to be reeled in, Poppy is wild and constantly needs supervision, and Larry is just done with it and wants to go out to eat. Personality wise they may be my favorites

Ngl Rika gave my all-time favorite (Karen) a good run for her money... In Italian (my language) she speaks with a heavy Roman accent, which is extremely funny to read and also a pretty cool and accurate adaptation of the original. That's why I'm here, hoping to see her appear in the anime😂

In gen 1 it appears like each elite 4 member has 2 types. Lorelai is psychic and ice, Bruno is rock and fighting, Agatha is poison and ghost and Lance is flying and dragon.

Okay so why are their so many types getting reused in the e4 instead of getting an electric or grass e4? For electric, it has only one weaknes with enough pokemon to play around that weaknes. Rotom, electros, lanturn, kilowattrel. Amparos is pretty bulky, jolteon is fast and hard hitting, magnezone having recistances thanks to its steel typing plus sturdy.....

Fun fact: when looking at typing alone, Scrafty is good against 3/4 of both the Unova Elite Four (both versions since the types never change) and the USUM Elite Four so if you catch one during your play through then you’re good for the Elite Four besides Marshall and Kahili

In personal defense for the Alola League... I personally think the Battle Theme for them is the very best. I love how aggressive it is.

Well, the four battles (Bede, Nessa, Bea/Alister, and Raihan) are mean to serve as the elite four battles before the champion in Galar

Elite Four’s could be themed not just type. Ex: Dark Type can use ghost or poison as well. Ex: Water Type can ice. Last Ex: steel type can use rock or ground as well

Wow a Wyoming shoutout. I'm actually more surprised how often this does happen. Most people forget we exist, even with how prominent we are on the map.

To speak on the Scarlet and Violet league some more, The Decision to not include rematchs hurts more when coupled with the fact that elite four theme looped after the first few notes due to a bug in the already bug and glitched filled games on release. So if you played and beat the games quickly, you missed out!

I actually really like the Alola elite four battle theme. Yes, movepool wise they are definitely lackluster, but at least I can hear a banger while I'm at it.

In regards to the first round for DBSP...i was using 3 legendries on my team, but playing on set mode and without healing in battle...yea the E4 of DBSP made me want to start using healing items...

When I first got to the Unova Elite 4 I was between 8 - 10 levels BELOW them. I have no idea what I did wrong since I encountered every trainer that I could, and my team had been fairly consistent throughout the run.

I heard somewhere the Elite 4 rematches and other important characters will be back in the dlc. Probably that battle arena we know is coming. If u notice lately we get subpar post games at launch. Clearly the main story is top priority. Because we play to credits first. Those of us who know which games have postgames and how to find them. Definitely care but first areas are most important and climax. Epilogue is important if u enjoy the game. Thirds versions and dlc handle postgame.

i would like an open world pokemon game where you had to seek out the elite four across the map to find them. Make one a powerful recluse that you find tucked away somewhere hidden. Another can be a very prominent and important figure in the region and you need to face their subordinates beforehand. Another can literally be your mom but she never tells you and you figure it out. And the last one is constantly moving around the map travelling and you have to track them down to challenge them.

Missed opportunity but scarlet and violet elite fours battle room looks like it could be used as maybe a hologram room😑why not just have the room themed to each member before each battle,could have made it funny if they made comments or something but go with plain yelling to the next member to come out...

I like that Bruno keeps his Onix, its a nice reference to the pokemon adventures manga

jpr might be the only pokemon fan to not know who rika and larry are. the two most popular characters that aren't rivals

Geeta: “I’m utterly incapable of holding back.” Brings out a Gogoat.

when I played brilliant diamond I fought the elite four and champion with some under leveled pokemon to give myself the challenge and won too on first try though it was still a challenge

Wow. I was kinda disappointed with the harsh criticism on Alola's League. It honestly feels like one of the freshest takes on a Pokémon League in the franchise, I love it. The fact you got to face Hala and Olivia in your travels makes them familiar faces, but also leaves you with this feeling of unease, since you know this is not the willy-nilly Island Trials play, they're using their real teams and full strength and knowledge against you. Since Nanu couldn't be bored to join the E4 (which is extremely on character, btw), Acerola, another familiar face as a Trial Captain that you interact a lot with during the Aether House plot (and also knowing she belongs to nobility), makes for an amazing alternative foe. Finally, while being the most uninteristing E4 member, Kahili is not at all a random guy or girl that is strong, she is the daughter of the owner of the Hano Grand Resort, which ties her back to a very distinguishable place in the region, where you can find her afterwards! She also appears during USUM when you acquire the Flying Z-Stone. Honestly, my biggest gripe with this line-up is the fact they choose Hala to be switched with Molayne in USUM, which might just be the worse choice to be taken out since he's probably "the returning face" in the E4 that hits the hardest to see there. But I digress. Banger theme also! It surprised me when you said their theme was not good, because I really enjoy it! It's not slow, doesn't have crazy build ups, it hits you in the face with amazing energy and rhythm, which makes it very comparable to the Gen 5 E4 theme, another banger! So yeah, these are my two cents about the Alola League. Probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite E4!

Black and White 2 Challenge Mode has a really good Elite Four because each member has 2 ridiculously powerful Pokemon added to their team

Funny story for me about Larry doubling as an Elite 4, during my play through of Violet, he was the only gym i had a huge problem with because his Staraptor or whatever had a move I forgot the name of that doubles in damage if it gets inflicted paralysis, burn?, or poison?, I forgot the other two effects that applied to it. Regardless, I did paralyze it and it started to sweep me. I actually had to put some thought into my actions and had to really utilize my ampharos since it was the only pokemon I had that was faster than the Staraptor. It got stupidly hectic. Anyways flash forward to the elite four, Rika asks what gym gave me the most trouble and I said Larry, so when he showed up as the third member, i thought the game used the leader I struggled with the most for it's third member and my heart sank a little. I soon realized that wasn't the case but I thought it was a potentially interesting mechanic for the short time I thought that. Larry really is a godsend

I hope there will be a spin off game in future where you play as a gym leader and elite four role.

honestly the best part about sword and shields elite 4 when i played was the glitch theme it was pretty good

The blueberry E4 is hands down the best. Their teams are actually competitive and have pokemon to cover up their weaknesses, are EV and IV trained, have held items, use weather/strategies, and uses tera in smart ways. I absolutely love them. I do understand that this video was made before The Indigo Disk, but man the Blueberry elite 4 are fire. 🔥🔥🔥

I love gen 6 since it was the first game I got outside of the google play emulators, but man I replayed it recently beat the entire league with nothing but a jolteon and garchomp. There are a lot of repeated weaknesses that both of these mons can cover.

8:42 and it is her villa and marshal left the chat

The Sinnoh Elite Four is really weird to me. Bland designs, 2 have bad team composition in Diamond and Pearl, and they hit you like a freight train in BDSP because it got INSANELY HARD out of nowhere. I’ve been playing Pokémon for years and that is BY FAR the WORST difficulty curve in ANY Pokémon game.

The thumbnail looks like Bruno is hugging Rika cuz he's scared lol

Just imagine if Geeta led with Glimmora and used Kingambit as the ace. That's really the only change she needs to up her difficulty significantly. Both of Kingambit's tera types would be far harder to deal with than Rock Glimmora. Having Toxic Spikes doesn't even need anything said about it.

I feel like powercreep plays a factor in the later E4s being pretty easy, especially in Gen 9. Skeledirge being an example you said yourself.

platinum aaron was one of my favorites even tho he's easy af. as a 10 year old i thought yanmega, drapion, and vespiquen were some badass looking pokémon

I think they shoukd do an elite 4 which focuses on the stats (i.e. speed, attack, defense and maybe statuses) rather than types

Gen 9 League’s was definitely the league I had the most fun in because every other one was you talk to them and fight. Here all the elite 4 talk and interact and I found it really enjoyable seeing their interactions.

The OG Hoenn elite four was definitely mid as I was able to constantly beat all 5 and become the Pokemon Champion with just a single lvl:100 Blaziken on my team when I was like 9 or 10. Move set I think I remember being Blaze Kick, Overheat/Fire Blast, Sky Uppercut and I wanna say Mirror Move but something also tells me it might be Flamethrower as well. I needed a lot of 1 hit KO stuff to even have a chance

You know, it’s funny how Pokémon Masters took the most nothing Elite Four out there and made them really cool characters. Siebold and Wikstrom are now my favorite Water and Steel-type Trainers in the whole series thanks to their portrayals in that game!

This must be the first video of yours I've watched since Ash retired, cause now I can't sit through your intro without feeling a little melancholy lol. Anywho, always cool to see Elite 4 talk since outside Pokemon Masters and Adventures somewhat, most aspects of the franchise heavily underutilizes these guys for some reason. My personal thoughts: Kanto: The characters themselves are cool. Lorelei is stunning, Agatha has the super intriguing Oak connection, Bruno and Lance also at least look cool. Yeah they're simple compared to later stuff but literally everything about Kanto is simple compared to later stuff. Not a flaw, just a natural aspect of... Later game entries in any long running series. Can't even hate for the pokemon selection for this reason... In GEN 1, idk why they're so adamant about keeping the teams so mostly limited in later iterations. Cool to see at least Lets Go remedied some of them a bit. Don't really disagree with anything you said here, I'd just rank them in the neutral, they are the absolute base template. Johto: Shared with Kanto but actually to it's benefit as it serves as cool world building. Being 3 years later you got some old faces, some new, Koga's promotion is a cool detail that for some reason hasnt been replicated. I also don't know why they chose Koga specifically, I know cause Janine took over the gym (more world building, our first familial gym inheritance), but they easily could've just had him retire in general and I have a hard time believing out of all the league trainers pf RGBY etc, HE'S the most capable. I mean former champion Gary is right there as a gym leader, i don't get the power scaling of it but whatever lol. Karen is awesome, stunning and of course wise iconic words. Will is interesting but to a fault cause it's like... What the hell is his deal, why do they never address or bring him back lol. Bruno is Bruno. Can't roast teams, just early generation syndrome of highly limited options, not a flaw but a... Natural symptom i guess. Overall i put em on good. Hoenn: This is where you kinda had me eyebrow raising a bit, particularly for the Phoebe disrespect. Maybe it was only in Emerald (and i would imagine ORAS), but she's like... The first on duty E4 that we see outside of the E4 in the entire series iirc. She explains a good bit of lore on Mt. Pyre when we meet her and her grandparents up there, I dunno how anybody with eyes can look at her and claim that's a boring design, and in ORAS she has the whole ghost girl in her room easter egg going on. A tad blasphemous there good sir. But slightly remedied for Drake love. I like Glacia too at least after the ORAS glow up. Her and Sydney definitely need more presence though. Teams affected by early gen dex limits again but most were very memorable fights for me, to this day like 10 years after playing Emerald. I'll say their good. Sinnoh: Again, little eyebrow raising here. No drip? I'll give you Aaron, but c'mon. Bertha is styling hard, she just on that old lady drip. The coat, the scarf, that's style for days for her age bracket. Flint I can kinda understand but I guess i just always saw him as a more "punk rock but not obnoxious about it kinda dude" so i always felt he fit that well. Plus he's just a cool guy with interactions outside with his friendship with Volkner and his little brother Buck. LUCIAN THO, "Will without the mask?". Really? I can give you my spare pair of glasses man, cause idk how you miss what is easily one of the best dressed characters in Pokemon with that suit, rocking shades and that suave mane lol. Comparing him to the literal clown. Sheesh. For teams, yeah the early gen limitation thing should be wearing off now, though i only remember Flint's og team being weird but they at least got creative with it imo with the movesets of the non fire pokemon. Plus he uses Infernape, i can't hate. Kept ya on your toes and of course great challenges all around, still remember my first time getting to them. Overall they're also a good one to me. Unova: Very memorable, I like Caitlin calling back to Sinnoh's frontier, though not sure why she's here in particular. But yeah they all look cool, all were challenges, cool cats outside the league but agreed, kinda overplayed typings. Not much to say that you didn't, easy good one. Kalos: so... I love Malva and Drasna with all of my heart. 2 of my favorite ladies in the series, both having great potential lore wise. Especially Malva, raises so many questions like how Diantha let who is essentially the 2nd in command of Flare be in her league. Actually,why is Malva 2nd to Lysandre when she's by all accounts objectively stronger than him But definitely, my ladies are carrying this league so hard on their shoulders. Seibold and Wikstrom i never cared too much for, kinda like Wikstrom on anime but not talking about that now lol. And they just were screwed over by the usual shadow hanging over Kalos being that they were just left in the dust bin. Alola: Very cool worldbuilding with us witnessing a league's creation. Though much as i love the kahunas, I'm mixed on them also being E4. It wouldn't be a big deal if Kahili wasn't intriduced specifically during the league. Whole new face, but only the one. Could've had E4 Burnette or something. I'll say "neutral" love the characters, just not as e4. Paldea: Poppy and Larry are funny, Rika just aight and don't care about teacher guy. Worst presentation, bland room, but. Just bland.

Kalos stuck with me a lot as i loved x and it got my back into pokemon wikstrom was the hardest for me coz of his aegeslash (constant swapping was pain lmao) drasna was great she felt like a caring aunt/grandma that was always happy see you when you came back to farm for money I loved paldeas league mainly coz of the e4 Rikas animation for throwing the ball was great and both of us using clodsire made me smile hes just a goofy guy Poppy was funny like who let this child in larry is just larry and bro even bugged out for me and was behind me while i fought geeta 😂 hassel was a fun reveal his class and the cook where the only ones i really bothered with

The gen 1 Elite 4 have the four types with the least amount of Pokémon. Gen 1 had 5 Ice-types and Lorelei has all of them except for Articuno which she does have on her team in Round 1 in Pokémon Stadium's Gym Leader Castle. There are 5 fully evolved Fighting type Pokemon in gen 1 Bruno has 3 and Chuck has the other two.

the sinnoh e4 + champ being universally regarded as some of the most difficult battles in the base games always makes me giggle. pearl's league is the first i had ever beaten and the moment the game said i defeated cynthia i cried for HOURS because it was my first time beating a champion. before that the closest i got was drake's last pokemon in ruby. i was 5 when i lost that copy of ruby, and i want to say 8 when i beat cynthia in pearl? i think back on it often :3