The Best (And Worst) Of Glass Cannons In Smash

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Download and play AFK Arena for free: bit.ly/2S4h60Z Use these bonus codes: BestRPG4BusyU and uf4shqjngq to get awesome rewards. | Glass Cannons are a very successful archetype in the Smash series, and today we dive in and find out why! Note that the upcoming Minecraft Steve looks like he may have some traits of this archetype as well, but due to the video's upload timing unfortunately can't be included if this is the case.
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Also yes, I already know that I called Fox a Falco clone a couple minutes in. I realized this weeks before the video was uploaded and could easily have rerecorded that line, but was sure it wouldn't be necessary. Everyone will know exactly what I meant, and feel absolutely no need to drop an "umm, actually" comment in response because we're all chiller than that. That's why I can safely put this information as an Easter egg at the bottom of the video's description. Right?

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@MrMockRock 3 года назад

Thanks for watching everyone! This video was sponsored by AFK Arena, you can download the game here: bit.ly/2S4h60Z. Fun fact: that Link/Samus clip in the ad wasn't staged, I've been waiting forever for an excuse to use it. Glass Cannons were a really fun archetype to tackle, and I'm curious to see which one gets voted for next. First, though, will be videos on Minecraft Steve and the Falcon Punch, so please look forward to those! -Twitter: twitter.com/MrMockRock -Twitch: www.twitch.tv/mockrocktwitch -Patreon: www.patreon.com/mockrock -Teespring: teespring.com/stores/mockrock

@Mr_Mimestamp 3 года назад

1:46

@shyboievris834 3 года назад

@MockRock For a character that messes with their own and their opponents health, check out Mycolich from the Rivals Workshop. Definitely my current main, and it's super fun.

@fupalover 3 года назад

Can you do a video analyzing every archetype and deciding which you feel is the best/most efficient?

@Samus-yz8of 3 года назад

Still loving the announcer voice

@andremorrison7626 3 года назад

Can I ask? If Falcon doesn't qualify as a glass cannon because of his weight and versatility, what would you call someone who, if put in disadvantage at any point, would be one of the easiest characters to combo to oblivion?

@soni-switch5270 3 года назад

The title is wrong, it should be "The Perils Of Playing (And Designing) Glass Cannons And Styrofoam Nukes - Super Smash Bros."

@soni-switch5270 3 года назад

Thanks for the heart! Really appreciate it!

@Champion919Games 3 года назад

Agreed.

@midnight2029 3 года назад

I always called them "Paper machine guns" or rather " _Papier-mâché_ guns "

@DeisFortuna 3 года назад

@@midnight2029 that makes more sense for when they're death by a thousand cuts type of thing, which is generally referred to as a Fragile Speedster, since a glass cannon can dish it out, but can't take a hit, whereas the fragile speedster can't take a hit or dish out singular big hits, but can either deal a lot of weak hits quickly or is good at running away or otherwise being too evasive to hit. Cannons do have more firepower per shot than machine guns do. Props for the creative wordplay though.

@bluehax6 3 года назад

Glass Cannons, Styrofoam Nukes, and Papier Mache Guns. Three pretty good names

@kirbo6437 3 года назад

DON’T GET HIT (unless your playing Lucario)

@Endershock1678 3 года назад

Or you're slightly below 100% as Terry.

@timidy5541 3 года назад

joker is not a glass cannon he's just a cannon

@keeshuunedited5678 3 года назад

@Wil E Or Little Mac, or Incineroar... or anyone with a counter/reflect/absorb really.

@floofbirb4436 3 года назад

@@timidy5541 no he's a pair of guns and a top hat

@timidy5541 3 года назад

@@floofbirb4436 you got me there

@liammccafferty5638 3 года назад

If you’re looking for a fighter that messes with health, I’d highly recommend taking a look at the custom RoA character, Mycolich. Phenomenal implementation of health pool based mechanics.

@lxchristhebuff1303 3 года назад

Will do

@EternumTagerMain 3 года назад

Killer Instinct's Mira and Under Night in-Birth's Carmine have specials that cost health but can restore their healths with certain specials.

@Tooaster 2 года назад

I thought of that character instantly when he said playing with health. That's one of my favorite Rivals of Aether workshop characters.

@thesteelsquid863 2 года назад

@@Tooaster Zetta main here. He can definitely be a pain to fight against..

@Staticsheep28 3 года назад

I can think of a self damaging, self healing glass cannon. Shadow Mewtwo from Pokken tournament. He has the lowest health in the game and half his moves deal self damage. However if you end a combo with one of those moves you can than use recover to regain everything you lost. However recover is move that requires a lot of commitment and if you get hit during it you won't regain anything. He's a fun and popular character.

@stitchowi 3 года назад

@localnekonia6830 2 года назад

Shadow mewtwo is actually surprisingly balanced as well many shadow mewtwo players live in crippling fear of Machamp XD

@killerbug05 2 года назад

@@localnekonia6830 I thought living in crippling fear of Machamp was a problem the who cast (except for the zoners) deal with 😔🙏

@localnekonia6830 2 года назад

@@killerbug05 hah i came name a few characters that can bully machamp (that aint zoners) like Pikachu, women pikachu, blastoise and weavile

@Luna19912 Год назад

Shadow Mewtwo is probably the best designed glass cannon I've seen in a fighting game, simply because being a glass cannon is so baked into his design

@KorporalKReephdmkiytrecv69 3 года назад

So practically everything about Little Mac, okay got it.

@definitely9353 3 года назад

I’m a simple man: I see a Korporal K. Reep comment, I like

@colinmeier8140 3 года назад

Bro I literally see u everywhere smash bros related

@ricocarpenter2189 3 года назад

It's even sadder since the whole point of a boxer is that they are a cannon cannon not a glass cannon

@gupmoment 3 года назад

WHY ARE YOU IN EVERY VIDEO I WATCH!

@ihavenolife8651 3 года назад

@@gupmoment cos you watch a lot of smash videos?

@agentdiamond9211 3 года назад

"A character that plays with your health" Steve is going to play with your health, alright.

@MannFace51 3 года назад

Idk, I wouldn’t really consider melee Falco to be a glass canon. More a plexiglass canon

@oricalu448 3 года назад

I feel as though a pokemon would be a really cool character for the "messing with their own damage" concept. Give them life leech moves, recoil moves and such, but you also have options like belly drum, which gives you a permanent attack boost for that stock, but instantly gives you 50% damage, or high jump kick, which is super strong, but damages the user a lot if it whiffs.

@trickytristan1 2 года назад

breloom could be a pokemon that works like this. It can learn absorb/megadrain/gigadrain, leech seed, and ingrain. While it doesn't learn Belly Drum or High Jump Kick in game, it's not too hard to justify it being able to use those moves in the context of a platform fighter.

@coolguyc4sey Год назад

@@trickytristan1 breloom using belly drum would be funny as hell

@Icemario87 Год назад

And considering that Smash characters have for Special moves while Pokemon have a set of four moves means you could pretty efficiently create a smash-style game that would be even more fun than Pokemon Stadium. Even in smash, alone, you could introduce various pokemon trainers. like Red, Lance, Agatha, Lorelei, etc.

@flaregamer64 3 года назад

Class canon mains summarised My day be so fine 😍 Then boom. Took a hit.

@lukasnoecker9873 3 года назад

JFK would main zss because of boobies change my mind

@electricenergy116 3 года назад

@@lukasnoecker9873 no, because you are entirely right

@FoxIord 3 года назад

@@lukasnoecker9873 Not in Ultimate. She got nerfed almost as hard as FF7 remake Tifa. Now the biggest melons goes to Jigglypuff or Kirby in doubles.

@lukasnoecker9873 3 года назад

@@FoxIord hard disagree if it’s not ZSS it’s Wii Fit

@FoxIord 3 года назад

@@lukasnoecker9873 It was a joke about Kirby and Jigglypuff being large pink squishy spheres. In all seriousness, or at least as much as this conversation allows, yeah probably Wii Fit. Wii Fit also has my vote for the single best move in the game with Deep Breathing. Yes, even better than Monado Arts.

@eriknelson3238 3 года назад

I don’t remember if you used as games as comparisons in past episodes, but I really liked the implementation in this video. Smash is the only platform fighter I play/watch and it’s interesting to see how other games go about it. Specifically when compared to a game that I do know, so I don’t get too lost. Great content. Love this series.

@nicocchi 3 года назад

You should totally pick up Rivals of Aether man. The roster might be small and it's lacking in single player content, but the gameplay is on point, polished to high hell, and the characters are so diverse and gimmicky that two players of the same character will always have a notably different playstyle, as their tools are all powerful and allow a huge amount of expression. I have more fun playing Rivals than Smash honestly, but the small playerbase coupled with the lack of meaningful single player content limits that fun somewhat

@ballisticboo7808 3 года назад

@@nicocchi also you have workshop to play as almost any character you can think or

@EduardoFlores-bt4fo 3 года назад

I thought zoners like Samus and Snake were next :( Oh well, I bet this is a swell video too, thanks!

@MrMockRock 3 года назад

It was very close between the two, zoners were brought back for another round of polling since they were the clear second place last time, I'll be doing that with most polling-based content.

@NVS_Snake 3 года назад

Snake is a trapper. But I suppose he can be considered a zoner. Just that his attacks are pretty good, and his projectiles aren’t fast. (Due to vulnerability of using them up close, and grenades having a timer) Piranha Plant and Isabelle also fall into this archetype.

@fion3il258 3 года назад

@@NVS_Snake plant isn't a zoner per se, just really good at staying just outside of someone's range while getting tons of damage and having good up close options

@NVS_Snake 3 года назад

Fion3il Thats why I said Plant and Isabelle are Trappers. Not zoners

@kyurei4478 3 года назад

Snake is essentially a zoner with trapper tools.

@dariusonly1384 3 года назад

12:52 imagine getting spiked by Little Mac. I'd actually quit playing if that happened to me.

@davidclout6286 3 года назад

I’ve been maining Mac since Ultimate came out and only pulled it off once one a Pit at 120.

@4whomittolz846 3 года назад

Look up Paper-Will, aka Air Mac. He is the proof that Little Mac has aerials

@armanroyai6601 3 года назад

ahh the styrofoam nuke strikes again

@TheEpicMeeps 3 года назад

As a Kirby main, I am flattered by the fact that Kirby was present in the image of the top tier ultimate characters...

@garlicbreadloaf 3 года назад

i mean its not ultimate but yeah

@jmurray1110 2 года назад

That was for every gage just using the ultimate art he was top tier with pickatu in 64

@jazzabighits4473 2 года назад

Kirby is top tier in Smash 64, like way top tier

@TDG386 2 года назад

@@jazzabighits4473 not better than Pikachu, but he is design to be braindead

@jazzabighits4473 2 года назад

@@TDG386 I'd argue Kirby is better than Pikachu is smash 64, Pikachu would be 2nd on my tier list. I could elaborate if you wanted me to, but I don't think anyone cares about tiers from a game from the 90s lol.

@Hernie819 3 года назад

I love this series.

@MrMockRock 3 года назад

Thank you!

@soni-switch5270 3 года назад

Me too, it's my favorite series now!

@Fives_Waffeleisen 3 года назад

All of his Videos are amazing and the best Smash/Nintendo content on RU-vid

@midnight_gmr8562 3 года назад

11:55-12:08 One example of this idea is in Under Night In-Birth. I'm primarily talking about the character Carmine, who has a multitude of life-leech and self-damaging attacks. He falls more into a trap-based zoner with the occasional burst of rushdown, but he is the best representative of your concept that exists in a fighting game to my knowledge.

@absoul112 3 года назад

I love that character.

@fryenchill2817 3 года назад

Mira from KI 2013 is probably a better example since she is a rushdown/mixup character with incredible tools that are only really balanced by their health cost and shadow counters

@midnight_gmr8562 3 года назад

@@fryenchill2817 I'm hitting myself for completely forgetting her. Then again I do play a lot more Under Night than KI but still.

@elivcdxv1852 3 года назад

Carmine is great, fun to fight against too.

@UnknownSpooky 3 года назад

Alternative title: The Perils of Playing Against Steve

@iamfat6164 3 года назад

No the phrase is clearly "Don't get hit on" especially in the smash community.

@elemangell2981 3 года назад

To quote the great Fawful's Minion on Mr. Game & Watch: "If you're ballsy enough to upgrade you glass cannon to paper bazooka, you've got an interesting Smash career ahead of you, man."

@sniv4780 3 года назад

7:26 Kirby: there is 1 imposter among us

@epicvoyager5938 3 года назад

imagine being a glass cannon, this post was made by ken

@trip9196 3 года назад

Haha ken mains unite! He has great recovery and he's a midweight, yet he can kill mario at like 10%. I don't know if he's actually balanced, cuz he requires a lot of skill, but it feels like I get too much reward. Not complaining tho 😄

@epicvoyager5938 3 года назад

@@trip9196 even if he's not balanced, playing him at a high level is super fun! And getting a touch of death combo with him is a whole different feeling entirely!

@trip9196 3 года назад

@@epicvoyager5938 yeah it's super fun. Starting out with ken is hard but I believe my best tip is to watch other people play. You can pick up a lot of things, and the reward from playing him is so cool.

@milansubotic7674 3 года назад

I remeber once i was playing as zss at my last stock at about 140% against a bowser who was at about 80% on his first stock, took him down to 200% on his last stock, didn't win but still proves a point

@ZXaria 3 года назад

Happened to me with Bayonetta, took Ridley to 200%+ and couldn't find the kill. And again with K. rool, 250%~. Belly Armor against Bayonetta's low single hit damage output is so annoying.

@it_a_me 3 года назад

@@ZXaria my favorite was when I lived to 250% as jrool vs bowser jr. Crown armor can tank most his moves/projectiles and I never had to leave center stage

@linguine4500 3 года назад

That one is one you, Ridley is lighter than samus

@ZXaria 3 года назад

@@linguine4500 All Bayonetta has in terms of Kill Power is back air, Smash Attacks are far too laggy and telegraphed. Down air can be seem from a mile away.

@papersonic9941 3 года назад

@@linguine4500 they are both still pretty heavy, though.

@BestgirlJordanfish 3 года назад

Ooh I can't wait to see episodes on zoner, grappler, or "summoner" design archetypes. I'd also be fascinated of seeing where the Smash series can go in a future iteration, since they always try to do more than just have more stuff. There are always fun side gimmicks, activities, and core mechanical changes

@floofbirb4436 3 года назад

i've actually only seen 3 summoner archetypes. mycolich and engineer from the RoA workshops, as well as keicho nijimura's mugen form. are there any summoner archetypes in smash? edit: i forgot olimar

@BestgirlJordanfish 3 года назад

@@floofbirb4436 I guess the "puppeteer" in rosaluma and ice climbers so there isn't too much there. I guesd now I'm wondering about design spaces and how new commander or puppeteer styled can work for an advanced wars character

@floofbirb4436 3 года назад

@@BestgirlJordanfish as i've said, keicho is exactly what you're looking for. during the fight, he can spawn units from a large pool that doesn't refill that do chip damage and small hitstun. he also kinda sucks at cqc but has a bow super that will fucking OBLITERATE you if it lands.

@BestgirlJordanfish 3 года назад

@@floofbirb4436 ahhh that sounds dope. Definitely that unit resource management that sounds engaging. Like how Robin represents that element of durability juggling, I'd love a fire emblem or advanced wars character that translates commanding or working in a squadron.

@Mr_Mimestamp 3 года назад

Turn on Final Smash Meter for any character to become a glass cannon! -Me, a filthy casual

@bensonhatch5423 3 года назад

Except the encourages you to get hit so you can get the final smash, so more like turns everyone into Lucario

@watermelongaming3698 Месяц назад

@@bensonhatch5423 Then high-Aura Lucario + final smash is insane. I have 0-to-deathed many characters/CPUs because I used Lucario's final smash while at like 80-100%.

@2tmb904 3 года назад

Hey mock, I hope you get through whatever you are struggling with, and I really appreciate that even through your issue you still managed to make an epic upload. Awesome video as always!

@Nokyyyyy 3 года назад

_Glass cannons can kill early_ Yoshi : yeaaahshi ! _...but it goes the other way too_ Yoshi : nope

@Denizu 3 года назад

Your script writing is as neatly written as it is all encompassing. How you manage to pack so much information in a rather short amount of time never fails to surprise me. Keep it up, and please do take care of yourself

@as-lb8rb 3 года назад

Dude, keep this up! This is such an interesting series, and seeing you continue it from the Heavies video is so cool!

@tyeus3673 3 года назад

I'd really like to see you analyze Rivals of Aether and how it relates to smash, considering you use it as a means of comparison in your essays quite often.

@BaconBurgerKing1 3 года назад

11:29 that “oookay_brandon” fellow really is something else! Haha, love that Artist gameplay! Huge fan!

@MDLZero 3 года назад

I hear he's quite the looker as well! Awesome to see another fan :)

@BaconBurgerKing1 3 года назад

@@MDLZero I'd hit it!

@JB_CY 3 года назад

Ooo it's time Best smash content creator there is

@Jack-dt7rw 3 года назад

AsumSaus would like to know your location

@Storm-jj6nq 3 года назад

Ikr?!?!

@richpichu1272 3 года назад

Just a SSB nerd who is that

@Jack-dt7rw 3 года назад

@@richpichu1272 a melee content creator that specialises in fantastic editing and rewatchability. He's a blast to watch. Although he doesn't upload very often

@Galaxia_EX 3 года назад

I mean, the beefy smash doods are also pretty good. And we wouldn’t get awesome character guides without Izaw.

@bluehax6 3 года назад

A glass cannon with healing, self damage, and benefit from damage would be a high risk/reward character. Make it so that they get ko'd around 100, and make 100 the peak of their benefit, then u got a good ol' glass cannon. Their gimmick could also be that rage not only increases knockback, but also damage. Devastating. But they would have to be on the lighter side. Maybe they could pull a Robin, and make down b tied to healing when it lands on another character, but down b temporarily weakens moves, making them even less powerful than they were at the percentage they end up at. They could have a neutral b that sets you on fire or something, but it would make your attacks stronger, as well as having a fire effect. As a trade-off, you would take damage over time for the duration of the effect, something like 10 seconds maybe. A high risk/reward character, with conflicting specials and a new but vanilla feeling gimmick.

@gilles4prezudent650 3 года назад

I've always described pichu as Smash's take on Street Fighter's Akuma. A character that gives you every tool you could ever want at the cost of leaving very little room for error on the player's part.

@nintentwins1867 3 года назад

I appreciate the fact when talking about Mac you showed clips of Peanut. That man plays like a god, and has been on VG bootcamp countless times, even winning tourneys like The Grind occasionally.

@themackie2763 3 года назад

Dude, that intro was so sick. Very well done video.

3 года назад

heavy would make for a good glass cannon that plays around with his own health: strip a teleporter on his back, so that most of its moveset consists of other mercs popping out of the teleporter, increasing his hurtbox, before using a specific weapon. His upB could be a rocket jump, and along other moves, you could build the character around the idea that having high mobility costs health, while his downB could be him summoning Medic, an AI that follows him while grounded, healing him, but doesn't have much health itself and needs to be protected (the summoning of medic could be a very slow move that deals 15-20% selfdamage)

@Kirby18 3 года назад

Every video that you make is extremely high-quality and goes into depth while remaining engaging/enjoyable to watch. Thanks MockRock for keeping up the good work

@lulu82o 3 года назад

I love those those video, some of the best on youtube. You show your hardwork and passion in a way rarely seen on the plateform. Keep up the good work

@PinkieOats 3 года назад

MockRock my Emotions 9:50

@jamesyoung4604 3 года назад

as a sheik main i love seeing videos about the hypest character archetype

@voidlayern9368 3 года назад

May I just say that the opening bit to this video hit HARD. THAT. THAT is how you open a video essay. Keep up the great work!

@ThunderSwordman 3 года назад

If you took a look at Pokkén Tournament's Shadow Mewtwo, he does fulfill two of the three aspects of health manipulation. Although he doesn't benefit from low health other than a blanket rage mechanic for all characters, all of his enhanced special moves drain his health with massive benefits, and his lost health from using those special moves can be regained through passive assists and a move that recovers health but renders him vulnerable for 3 seconds.

@bl0bbyb0i68 3 года назад

I'm very excited too see this series grow. I'm most excited for the zoners archetype video since I tend to main zoners. But this was good video nonetheless. Keep up the good work!

@Shredster7 3 года назад

11:59 I strongly advise checking out the Rivals of Aether workshop character "Mycolich" by Giik. The character can temporarily have all incoming damage dumped into a separate entity only to have it all dumped back onto them after passing a certain threshold, and they can also briefly reduce an opponent's damage to zero in order to facilitate combos, only to have all of their damage returned to them a couple of seconds later. They're probably also the best example of an aerial grappler in any PlatFighter, but that's besides the point.

@ADAJ342 3 года назад

Huh

@alphaaether597 3 года назад

Ragna from BlazBlue and Carmine from UNIST are two very interesting glass cannon characters. Ragna has low health in comparison to the rest of the cast but regains health when he damages an opponent and his attacks are rather strong. Meanwhile, Carmine is the closest character to the kind of glass cannon you wish to see created because he hits quite hard but damages himself like Pichu, however, he can regain health using certain attacks, and has low HP. However, I should state that Carmine is more of a zoner-trapper character, so think of him like Olimar, but with self-damage and regain health moves.

@bluehax6 3 года назад

I feel like Steve will be broken unless made a glass cannon. He's gotta be EXTREMELY light, otherwise he'll be *too* OP.

@henrit1902 3 года назад

End result: medium weight whose weakness is Rushdown. Firmly high tier, but not quite top tier. High aggression prevents Steve from mining and crafting, and if he exhausts his iron, he loses two very useful attack options as well

@eret3 3 года назад

I really want mockrock's next video on the series to be about zoners, it's not that i like them, but it would be great to have a more well researched and formulated opinion on this class of fighters. Pretty sure it's going to 🅱️ a really SPECIAL video for this community.

@yankee1147 3 года назад

Chrom as a swordfighter glass canon fits well He gets hit.....and dies....kinda like in his main series game.

@GrayyisGayy 3 года назад

FINALLY IT CAME OUT! Great job. I really like how you end videos with the preview of another video.

@mordykinz4228 3 года назад

I'm super excited to hear about zoners and swordies.

@methanebrain7375 2 года назад

7:42 lucario mains : "hey I also try to avoid getting hit.. kinda"

@electroshockgamer2733 2 года назад

One character I can think of that plays with their own health in a traditional fighter is Carmine in Under Night and Blazblue: Cross Tag Battle. I've never played Under Night, so I don't know the specifics there, but in BBTag, because he uses his blood to attack, whenever it disconnects from him, he loses health, but his 5A Smart Combo and his grabs recover his health. And he's honestly one of my favorite fighters in the game.

@ricodo1244 3 года назад

7:47 Sad terry noises

@krosshair450 3 года назад

A new MockRock vid on my feed? FeelsGoodMan

@explicitwalrus6489 3 года назад

12:34 was honestly the dopest video conclusion I’ve seen in a while

@inkyrain3844 3 года назад

Real good video! Tbh I'm glad that there is a video at all

@ragsdale5028 3 года назад

Everyone in the comments is called glass canons "styrofoam nukes". What about a bubble supernova?

@ADAJ342 3 года назад

Lets start a chain where we make up sinonims for glass canons. Egg-jugernauts

@scorinnotborin2652 2 года назад

Not a SSBU character but I think that Shadow Mewtwo from Pokken is an amazing version of this archetype. When they work they really work.

@splubber99 3 года назад

"Don't get hit" really had a different meaning to me by the end of the video. Really well said, Mr. Rock

@sarasaland4709 3 года назад

An analysis on Swordfighters would be a feature film.

@Winnarly 3 года назад

@pikabots123 3 года назад

A character I think would fit the description you made near the end of the video at 11:55 is Fujiwara no Mokou in the Touhou fighting games like Antinomy of Common Flower. She has moves that convert her health into recoverable health. The way I see from this gameplay is that the more she overextends the more harder her getting punished will be as she drains her own health (for example if she brings her self down to 1 hp a tap from anything could ko her). She can recover health she lost through a specific move. If she gets hit before using this move the amount of recoverable health she can get back will go down along with her remaining regular health to avoid her essentially getting a full recovery out of getting hit. Sorry for the big comment lol

@cranesalvation8391 3 года назад

Your videos are well edited and your perspective great. One of the few you tubers I’m subbed to

@FelineDeskFan13 2 года назад

I heard glass cannon and IMMEDIATELY thought Jigglypuffs rest ability.

@Jack-dt7rw 3 года назад

New mockrock videos are an instant watch for me

@owenstroud5656 3 года назад

Hey mockrock, it’s not a fighting game but Rex from Risk of Rain 2 is your exact concept idea of a character. He does insane damage with his M2 ability but it costs him health, but his high commitment alternative utility and R that both lose health if you miss gain you back health when you hit it. His M1 also heals you but not by very much. His gameplay is largely focused making sure you balance your damage vs your leech

@ghostly_key5539 3 года назад

1. We need more videos like this analyzing playstyles of characters likes this. 2. I want the spoopy cat

@prinnydadnope5768 3 года назад

You might want to try Roof Rage, also a platform fighter with diagonal moves and momentum usage, really fun.

@countertopconfessions9975 3 года назад

YES! I love this series! For a moment, I thought you dropped it 😁♥️

@dabiskitt 3 года назад

One thing I’ve always wondered is where do weird/off the wall characters fit into these archetypes? One that comes to my mind is Piranha Plant. He’s definitely too slow and has too little true combos to be a rush down character, he has good zoning capabilities but is rewarded for going up close, has tools for a lot of situations yet is too specific to really feel like a jack of all trades sometimes.

@mallowild 3 года назад

Theres a really cool character called 'Mycolich' on rivals of aether workshop - a slow floaty grappler that manipulates death for high risk, high reward gameplay. I'd definitely check them out if you get the chance. They have a lot of damage reduction/manipulating attacks, such as one that sets your opponents percent temporarily to 0 so you can rack up damage in quick combos, and a move that lets you make substitutes of yourself. Its really cool!

@moonpoff6456 2 года назад

Killer Instinct's Mira is a textbook example of your idea of a character that plays with their own life. They have extremely low health and extremely high damage output. On top of this, a majority of their moveset deals potential damage to themselves. If the opponent gets you in a combo, you're likely gonna eat most of your lifebar if you have a lot of potential damage built up. Mira however can use certain moves and combo enders to convert her self inflicted potential damage back into health. Would be interesting to see how something like this could be implemented into a platform fighter

@FedoraKirb 3 года назад

I love your sponsorship voice. Kinda wishing you did you Smash Memes video with it.

@ScribeAwoken 3 года назад

In terms of characters that play around with health, there are some neat ideas from Steam Workshop characters for Rivals of Aether Mycolich and Bird Guy do a bit of the opposite - playing around with the *opponent's* health, plus Mycolich plays around with its own health as well. Mycolich's side-special is a tether command grab that temporarily resets the opponent's health to 0, giving you temporary access to your low percent combo trees. Meanwhile its down-special places a mushroom that effectively defers damage taken - the mushroom will absorb up to certain amount of damage (I think up to 60% when I last checked), and when it either reaches that cap or Mycolich detonates the mushroom (whichever happens first), Myco will take that damage all at once. Meanwhile Bird Guy down-special is a high-risk, high-reward kill move that, if it hits an opponent who's at a lower percent than Bird Guy, will deal damage equal to the difference between their percent totals, with the caveat that the damage will slowly heal over time. Donyoku also does two of those things - many of his specials deal self-damage, and his down-strong is a life-leech move. As for the combination of self-damage, reward for taking damage and life-leech moves, I've seen some traditional fighter characters that have two of those, but not all three. Mira in Killer Instinct has multiple specials and an air dash that all convert a chunk of her lifebar into blood health, plus a command grab that converts a portion of her blood health back into normal health. Carmine in Under Night In-Birth also has a bevy of self-damaging specials and command normals, plus he recovers health with his normal throw. Raven in Guilty Gear Xrd has a special similar to Joker's Rebel's Guard - an armored stance where he builds meter any time he takes a hit. Any damage he takes in this stance gets converted into pink life, which slowly heals over time, but is lost entirely if he takes a hit outside of the stance.

@gurvaldemaziere6825 3 года назад

MockRock : remember don't get hit Sonic main : *yes*

@Wattmelon 3 года назад

11:55 Mycolich from the Rivals of Aether Workshop might kinda fit that bill? They don't heal themself necessarily, but they can not only place down stage control hazards which reduce their current damage, at the cost of taking more once the hazard is destroyed, but also temporarily set the opponent's damage to 0% to allow for early % combos on later %'s.

@HaloBro003 3 года назад

Awesome video! By the way I'm hearing that Crypt of the Necrodancer music, someone is a man of culture 😎

@cp00078 3 года назад

I wiuld personally like to see sordfighters be covered, nice vid moc

@kingrhoam93 2 года назад

The whole video I felt like he was giving an intro for the archetype.

@koliman1588 3 года назад

For the character you were talking about at the end there, I'd suggest looking at Rival's Workshop's Mycolich, while he doesn't do everything you mentioned his ability to play with his own and his opponent's percent's is very interesting. He is not a glass cannon however.

@averyplaysthegame 3 года назад

If you want health loss and health leech on the same character, Carmine in Under Night In-Birth and Brazile Cross Tag Battle fits that description. Using his projectiles costs health while his grabs all heal him.

@echorealistic8211 3 года назад

You deserve so many more subscribers I love your content

@archusdraisen2786 3 года назад

Grapplers would be an interesting topic

@hunterbeaune7626 3 года назад

Hector from Pocket Rumble does self-damage when attacking but can refill some of his health at any point during the match, provided that your special meter is full.

@CroqueNWO 3 года назад

Pichu and mac in a nutshell, now I NEED to watch this

@senpai2.054 3 года назад

when I hear glass cannon, I think of Deoxys-Attack. perfect example.

@Alenara12349 3 года назад

A cool example of a character who plays with their own health is Carmine from Undernight In:Birth, he spends some health to set up high damage and tricky moves and then can regain some health from certain attacks

@ragsdale5028 3 года назад

I like how Little Mac is on the bottom of the thumbnail like in your worst moves video

@bombs2848 3 года назад

Nice video, Maybe next you could do the perils of designing and playing zoners

@Rock-fj3qi 2 года назад

Your videos are great, I had assumed you were a lot bigger based of the quality.

@eyyy2271 3 года назад

New MockRock vid? hell yea

@jacobhdz127 3 года назад

I commented on another video about the Maypul in your intro and I can’t find it to fix it so here’s my correction: I like that Sylvanos hidden within all the smash characters

@epsilon9669 3 года назад

""Positive Force (Gamma Mix)" - VVVVV OST" You used a siivagunner video that's a rip of Kitsune^2's "Rock My Emotions" for background music. That's either an incredible deep cut or a really funny accident.

@usrnm9076 3 года назад

Sheik is definitely a glass canon though. The glass is her weight and the fact that she loses every trade. The Canon is that anything that doesn't contribute to her glass is incredibly good. Frame data, recovery, combo game, ledge trapping, edge guarding, mobility, neutral.

@rodgeers7347 3 года назад

I've been saying, sm4sh alternate title was "Glass canon, the game"

@Hawko1313 2 года назад

In guilty gear, there is a class of characters called “pixie” characters. Who are designed with unfair and best intractable tools, but are so comboable, fragile and close range that they die in 2 touches much of the time. If given projectiles and zoning capabilities, they’d be completely unfair. But these characters are balanced around forcing situations where they have the advantage repeatedly, where the opponents interactions and adaptions may give them the one chance they need to delete a health bar.

@shockal7269 3 года назад

8:37 This is a beautiful scene

@hankboog462 Год назад

I honestly think Samus could be the character that uses her health like a resource. Aeion abilities drain health when you're out of aeion, dread gives her a life leech option in her metroid powers. If you make more of her abilities aeion than they actually are in the games, it could be really interesting, especially considering it could potentially reference the resource management of the meteoid games by forcing you to think of her health as a resource to be used that's taken away if you play poorly and replenished if you play well