The Best Backpacking Stoves, Tested in Cold Wind

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In this video, Adventure Alan overviews the best backpacking stoves, explains how he tested them, and highlights his favorite system. Read more about these stoves in our comprehensive stove buyer's guide: www.adventurea...
FrankenStove - the most efficient stove system possible - combines the Jetboil Stash Pot with MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe burner for optimal performance in all conditions. Learn more about SuperStoves such as FrankenStove: www.adventurea...
Safety Warning: Modifying the Jetboil Stash Pot or using it with any other burner is considered hazardous, voids the warranty, risks product damage due to overheating, and may result in personal injury. Anyone using the Stash Pot in any way other than exactly as intended by Jetboil acknowledges the risks they are taking, and is wholly responsible for their own actions and safety. See Jetboil Stash User Manual For more info on safe and proper handling.
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@Charactermatters650 6 месяцев назад

Just bought the soto windmaster from REI - 20% off for members so got it for $55 and free shipping! I had rewards that are now online and so it was essentially free - bought the Olicamp heat exchange pot for $32 plus tax and free shipping on Amazon - so the whole thing for $87 plus about 6 or 7 bucks for the canister so about $93 for everything - Thanks for your ratings - saved me a lot of time

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

Nothing comes close to Soto WindMaster + Olicamp in terms of value. Hope ya dig it!

@pesky-media 7 дней назад

Thank you! I wasn’t aware that the stoves came with pots so great to know!

@baroque9983 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for doing this. There are many reasons to buy a system - cost, performance, versatility, etc. If this is about time to boil water in cold and wind, please try the MSR windburner. It should be at the top of the list given those conditions are what it was designed for. Also, the MSR deluxe burner is a design copy of the Soto Windmaster, not the other way around.

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! In our experience and testing, MSR PRD + a heat exchanger pot is more efficient than Windburner system, which is also heavier and more expensive. MSR PRD did iterate on SWM design, not suggesting otherwise. We simply prefer the MSR iteration.

@Funkteon 6 месяцев назад

A wider pot base and a windscreen is all that matters... Tall pots always boil slower than a wide diameter pot with the same amount of water in it. This is why nobody tries to boil water in their metal drink flask, and instead, they boil the water in a pot and then transfer it to the bottle. Surface area is critical. The more the better (within reason).

@georgeleakos8376 6 месяцев назад

Agreed. Simply using a wind screen on most of the these stove/pot combos will increase efficiency by 1000%. Besides, under freezing conditions I always take my liquid fuel stove.

@freeforester1717 6 месяцев назад

Fire maple FMC X6 750ml pot, plus your favoured burner. Cost effective.😊

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

Agreed with wider pots. Always prefer that when we can get it. Some folks have been draping short micro wind screen skirts from their stove arms which seems like an interesting idea, but you have to be careful about full wind screens containing heat around the fuel canister - this can be very dangerous and all manufacturers warn against doing so.

@georgeleakos8376 6 месяцев назад

@@adventure_alan_co of course, you should never fully enclose the canister

@justintuttle137 6 месяцев назад

😊

@johnellis4129 3 месяца назад

I love my Jetboil Stash but it struggled heavily at -8°F on a trip. My go to for three seasons is the OmniLite Ti and white gas. My best four season and storm performing stove is a Trangia 25 with a Nova burner using an amish mix of kero and white gas (75/25). The Trangia works in 80mph sustained winds with up to 140mph gusts (tested during a hurricane). My absolute performer, ease of use with a glove, etc stove for cold weather and 100% reliability is an Optimus 111 burning kero.

@ek8652 6 месяцев назад

I’ve been totally happy with my Jetboil flash year round.

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

We had trouble keeping it lit in Alan's 35F, 5mph wind test. The flame kept blowing out.

@mikepoff9451 6 месяцев назад

Soto came out with the regulars many years ago. Put canisters in a fish aquarium with water, then add ice and see with one burns with high flame. Soto!

@Northeast-SouthwestOutdoors 6 месяцев назад

Jetboil mightymo £40, firemapel petrel hx pot £20 with a wrap of foil as wind shield wrapped around pot with a bottom overlap, poke 3 holes for excess pot stand £0. That's my frankenstove👍🏻

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

Love the hacking! We excluded MightyMo, since it's like MSR PRD and SWM, only without a concave/cupper burner head.

@SMafam5 5 месяцев назад

I’m surprised Bulin remote canister stoves don’t get compared in these line ups - at a lower price point they offer similar systems to that MSR reactor & jetboil with faster boil times.

@SMafam5 5 месяцев назад

And safer being lower to the ground (with remote system).

@ryanburke4868 6 месяцев назад

I have the last stove it's perfect it fits perfect in my dualist

@AdventureOtaku 6 месяцев назад

You left out the best Jetboil! The jet boil Mighty mo, is the same stove as the pocket rocket deluxe for $15 less.

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

There's a distinct difference in that MightyMo does not have a cupper/concave burner head, which drastically decreases its performance in wind.

@eric55406 2 месяца назад

Great review; thank you!

@krimke881 3 дня назад

Can someone tell me, what other burner a Jetboil pot fits? I know the Jetboil pot stand fits amazingly onto the msr windburner. Facts please! 🤗 Im thinking maybe Urberg Rogen, and also the MSR Reactor?

@jimfromoregonusa9899 5 месяцев назад

Great reviews....very helpful!

@adventure_alan_co 5 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@michelstronguin6974 6 месяцев назад

Love the comparisons! My only two cents is that the Soto Windmaster with the tri-flex is the lowest weight for the best performance. The pocket rocket deluxe is a copycat made by MSR to compete with the Windmaster, but its igniter is less reliable and it weighs significantly more than the Windmaster (when paired with the tri-flex). The Windmaster’s igniter never ever fails, it’s like magic, I don’t know how they do it.

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

To each their own and we get it on the weight saving. Alan and I both prefer the MSR PRD for being less fiddly and better balanced than triflex arms, regardless of whether or not the burner unit on the whole is an iterative copy design. We view the quality of the pietzo ignitor as largely inconsequential. PRD's ignitor seems fine and works well enough in our backcountry use. Even if SWM's ignitor is better, that's not a key feature to evaluate based on, and we still have a lighter as backup anyway.

@brandonspurlock430 15 дней назад

Just read your whole article online - very helpful! I've got an upcoming trip to Montana in early November, and was planning on bringing my Whisperlite (it's what I already own) but am considering your SuperStove option for weight savings and ease of use. But, seeing as I already own the Whisperlite and the fact that it's likely to be cold, should I stick with what I have? Going to a canister system feels risky given the possibility/likelihood that weather could be 0-30 degrees. Thoughts?

@adventure_alan_co 15 дней назад

Thanks for that! There's a lot you can do to keep fuel canisters warm, such how they're placed in your pack, stowed in sleeping bag over night, kept in a jacket pocket, bathed in water, etc. If you're an avid outdoors person, we would strongly encourage you to assemble a SuperStove because it will be huge upgrade over whisperlite for most of your trips and what you'll use most of the time. But for this trip specifically if it's really getting down to 0F, you may be better served sticking with a liquid gas option.

@brandonspurlock430 15 дней назад

I think I will definitely build a SuperStove, in general! For this trip, my buddy is bringing a Minimo, so I’m thinking I should stick with my Whisperlite so we have the best of both worlds between us, no matter what the weather throws at us. Thanks for your input!

@adventure_alan_co 15 дней назад

@@brandonspurlock430 Right on! After discussing this a bit more, we feel that between 0-15F is the transition point where a standard canister stove configuration (like superstove) is at risk of failing. If you are able to bathe the canister in water while cooking to keep the fuel at 32F, that can probably get even lower. To pair with your whisperlite, we would still recommend an heat exchanger pot. And to correct one other thing, inverted isobutane canisters are generally preferable to traditional liquid fuel.

@brandonspurlock430 15 дней назад

That’s a great idea. Do you have a recommendation of a heat exchanging pot that would pair/nest with the Whisperlite well? I currently have an old MSR Blacklite pot that’s about 10oz.

@adventure_alan_co 15 дней назад

@@brandonspurlock430 Have an old whisperlite universal and just placed a 1L Fire Maple FMC FK6 onto it (same size as the Olicamp XTS). It fits, but just barely and is almost too narrow for the arms. Haven't actually tried it, but the slighter wider and larger fire maple feast 1.5L is likely a good fit amzn.to/3B57Nb9 for a whisperlite. The bummer though is that it's larger/wider than you'd want for a standard super stove setup and may not fit on the shorter arms of MSR PRD or Soto Windmaster. Let us know what you settle on and how it goes!

@jeromebullard6123 Месяц назад

MSR reactor is not just for mountaineering. It’s an amazing backpacking stove because it boils water faster than any other stove and it’s also more efficient than any other stove. The only drawback is the price. I’ve used mine with one small fuel canister and it lasted over a week of use before I needed another fuel canister. That’s blowing the others out of the water just with that.

@adventure_alan_co Месяц назад

The MSR Reactor is an impressive stove compared to average, and has good boil speed and fuel economy, but it's not the best thing going, and it's also heavy, bulky, and expensive. A SuperStove (link in video description) is lighter weight, less expensive, faster boiling, and more fuel efficient.

@tiagocosta1623 6 месяцев назад

And what about multi fuel?

@nelliespinney2664 3 месяца назад

have you tried the Denali One Backpacking Cook Stove?

@adventure_alan_co 3 месяца назад

Not personally, but looks similar to all-in-one models from Jetboil and MSR. Generally good heat output and fuel economy, but not quite SuperStove/FrankenStove levels, and twice as heavy.

@freeforester1717 6 месяцев назад

$25 Fire Maple FMC X6 750ml pot, plus your favoured burner. Cost effective.😊

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

Fire Maple is on our radar, we'll be testing the Petrel this spring! Looking at the Firemaple site, they are only selling a 1000ml version (which we definitely like, and which identical to the Olicamp)

@n0dedotorg 6 месяцев назад

Optimus Crux Weekend HE is very similar to the Jetboil Stash at about half the price.

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

Haven't tried that one! Thanks for the tip. It does look Stash-like. First impressions are the burner unit looks a cut below MSR PRD and SWM, but similar to Stash. Don't love a frypan lid, but you could of course fashion a foil lid of your own to replace. Interesting...

@rickallen8743 6 месяцев назад

What about MSR WINDBURNER?

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

Heavier, and slower to boil, less fuel efficient

@phillipwitt4433 6 месяцев назад

@@adventure_alan_cothe windburner being heavier is a valid point, but it boils ridiculously fast and is much more fuel efficient than any jetboil because of its wind performance.

@spartanpatriot3163 6 месяцев назад

Some people like to waste their money on over priced MSR

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

While the Soto Windmaster is a slightly better value than MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe, to call PRD a waste of money is hyperbole. PRD is the best burner we've ever used, and our current go-to based on performance and user-friendliness.

@andreameigs1261 5 месяцев назад

You've got a major flaw with your methods. You didn't control for gas canister size. The smaller canisters are going to get cold faster, and that is going to affect the efficiency to a higher degree, especially in the stoves without regulators. You should use all the same kinds of gas in the same size can with the same amount of gas in each can to control for those three variables. The level of gas in a canister can also have a large effect. Unfortunately, your data here is not good because you have way too many variables.

@adventure_alan_co 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for your feedback. The testing was conducted with the same 16 oz canisters as seen around the 7 minute mark in the video. The mixed canisters you're seeing in the intro are just for show.

@freecitizen7372 6 месяцев назад

The best backpacking stove? Snow Peak Giga Auto wins in my book.

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

There's a lot like about that stove, but not having a cupped burner head is a big knock against it.

@mikesalasek3603 6 месяцев назад

Why didn't you have a MSR Windburner, a excellent stove in both wind and cold.

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

MSR Windburner is really good (though we have a slight preference towards Jetboil MiniMo - a very similar stove), but the bar is higher now than either of them. SuperStoves like FrankenStove are lighter, boil faster, and more fuel efficient.

@Chris-ov4zc 6 месяцев назад

So glad to see you posting again! I really value your opinions on outdoor gear!

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for saying!

@crankshaft007 18 дней назад

You might not remember but jetboil had a recall or issue back in the day with the bot heat transfer fins. As you described if the item inside the pot didn’t transfer the heat it would melt the fins on the bottom. A lot of people had this issue

@aramboodakian9554 Месяц назад

Lots of reviews on line; yours is top notch. What especially stands out is your mix and match idea.

@adventure_alan_co Месяц назад

Thanks!!

@RGB872 6 месяцев назад

Did I miss the results somewhere? I watched, rewound and watched again and was hoping for some actual data.

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

You can view graphs with test results by clicking through to our stove buyer's guide.

@kingdo22 3 месяца назад

Hey Allan thanks for doing this deep dive

@Dave_Outside 6 месяцев назад

Well I think a white gas stove is certainly the best in very cold conditions. Not to mention it's more environmentally friendly without all those throw away fuel canisters.

@adventure_alan_co 6 месяцев назад

This video is not intended to address extreme cold weather cooking.