The Best Budget Spinning Reel? Shimano Spheros SW 2021 review 

How you oil the line rooler? What’s kind of oil ? Thanks

@@anhdo1844 just put a drop of ReelX or other reel oil into the seams of the line roller and pull some line against it with light drag. This will spin the roller and help spread the oil Cheers!

@@AffordableWahoo thanks

his 14 spheros lasted 7yrs no problem, wonder if his needs oil-ing often? maybe the new one is not as good?

great review my friend im from malaysia and wanna get it one for boating yeahh0

The 8k size is a bigger body and rotor, the 14k is same as 8k but with deeper cut spool. 6k is good light line surf reel, 8k to 14k pretty much tuna jigging reels.

@@christianflores7583 yea, ive lightened up a lot my surf gear over the years fishing the gulf coast beaches. 5500 penn and 6000 shimanos on 10-12ft rods. i use 20lb JB hollowcore backing for extra capacity and 30 solid braid for the working line, + shock leader. im really liking the spheros since i got it tbh, landed a big jack and a few big overslot drum no prob, smooth drag. ive never targeted legit tuna fish, its def on my one day list.

Yea it’s a lot specially if you are casting lures all day

Does the Spheros 5000 have a manual bail flip like the Saragosa?

The 3000 size sucks

@@ulisesjaramillo9019 nah, it's good just less sealed

i was looking at a daiwa bg magsealed 8000 for scottish pollack but reading many reviews from guys who have got one has put me right off them, they say after 6 months to a year if you dont use the reel f😊 its going to be a spheros 10000 for me next month, i have used shimanos for over 30 years now and thought i'd try something different just for a change, in that 30 years i have collected 11 shimanos and not one of them has ever gave me one single problem, so its back to shimano for me, they do build good quality reels 💪🏼

It has a manual bail which means you need to close the ball by hand. Which is a better habit anyways in almost every way, especially in regards to tangles and rod knots and such, not that Shimano reels have to worry about that usually

I bought all the missing bearings from Shimano off the stradic fk schematics and now it's my go to reel. The only thing missing to me is the one piece bail

Same but me is for surf sharks in SPL IN TEXAS! We get big sharks here, but want a small reel to get some smaller sharks you usually catch 8ft+ here mainly tigers.!

I would love to hear more of your thoughts on the Slammer 4 vs Gosa. It’s been 4 months since you wrote. I am going to buy a couple of spheros for some cheaper rods I have, and I am planning on buying a 10,000 saragosa for another rod. Isn’t the swa you mention the newer and better sw? Would like to hear your thoughts

@@Colonel1Bravo the slammer 4 is heavier, not sealed as well, has a smaller main gear although made of brass, and is much more expensive. At the moment there seems to be a lack of reports on the slammer 4 regarding reliability, where almost none are needed for the gosa swa, its track record is established unlike the slammer 3 that had handle, pinion sealing and roller bearing issues, which were later fixed silently years later, none of which have yet been confirmed absent from the slammer 4. The Swa is a true upgrade, they took a great reel and made it better constructed with longer screws in better places, making the body stronger despite being a hybrid aluminium and carbon infused body, compared to penns that is full aluminium. its even better sealed, much larger cold forged aluminium gear and brass pinion next to the penn, its lighter, has a redesigned one piece handle for optimised cranking power that can handle higher loads, it has improved AR clutch mounting making it even stronger, the pinion and gears are changed to be more centred for more crank power, it has floating main shaft for better stability (infinity drive), requires less servicing, butter smooth dual drag albeit slightly lower rating than the penn, but retains the carbon infused rotor whereas the penns is metal. The new swa gearbox is more compact and the traverse block is upgraded for higher strength. The new swa delivers superior cranking power with tighter tolerances, has 6 minebea mitsumi Japanese made bearings compared to 9 non-japanese in the slammer 4. The swa isn't as smooth as the slammer 4 when turning the handle, but under load the swa is the more solid reel. The line roller assembly is also completely sealed to ipx8 and better designed in the swa. And it's cheaper to buy the swa. The larger SWA models 18k onwards have a spool bearing for added support and a backup antireverse. The gosa has brass bushings instead of bearings for the handle and oscillation gear. There's a new slammer 4, the DX edition, which has an upgraded stainless steel main gear and pinion like the okuma makaira, and depending on the grade of this steel, may be the only significant advantage over the saragosa, besides the metal rotor which only helps to yield a slightly smoother drag at the top end but milliseconds only. The DX is also sealed better than the standard slammer 4 but so far I don't know how it compares to the SWA. It may at least be to the standard of the previous model SW?? The DX is also more expensive. Durability wise the stainless steel gear and pinion of the DX is a strong combination and a formidable upgrade. As for the "whole package", that's dependant upon your preferences. So i leave you with this, how did they improve the sealing in the new DX? What was missing in the normal slammer 4? With the swa you are buying a stronger locomotive drivetrain version of a stella, in some areas even better than a 2019 stella, minus the aluminium rotor, hardened spool lip and less bearings due to having a different drive train. The only bearings that could theoretically be added to the swa are the secondary oscillation gear mounting, handle and spool. But their absence doesn't impede performance. With the spheros swa you buying a watered down saragosa with a less capable drag force and different 2 piece handle and other price appropriate changes. Same sealing however. Its about price. The slammer 4 may well only be able to provide a full aluminium metal rotor and body, a stainless steel main gear and pinion in the DX, a slightly higher drag, and a smoother experience than the gosa swa which is quickly forgotten under load. Does that justify the price? To read the full engineer's review of the swa, visit alanhawk.com and browse the reviews section.

@@vizionsys that’s an amazing write up and you have been so generous with your time and opinions. Wow, so greatly appreciated. I’m certainly sold on the Saragosa. I feel like trying the DX, yet my next thought is why do that when I could just use that extra money on more gosa’s instead

@@Colonel1Bravo you're welcome. You are right, the gosas are leading the way bang for buck. In all honesty, both reels will offer a pleasurable experience. The slammer 4 is a tank of a reel, it will take some heavy abuse no doubt, but at the end of the day it is really a personal preference. Sometimes it's a simple matter of going in to a store and seeing/feeling which one you prefer, but especially in the case of the gosa, it really must be used in the field in order to appreciate the feel and power of it. Although it may be the case that you can get a new slammer 3 for cheap, that may be an option depending on what the real differences are between the slammer 3 vs 4. If the slammer 4 isn't much of an upgrade, the slammer 3 may still be a reasonable contender if the price is right but it would to be priced in the spheros ballpark!. The only thing we don't know for certain is how well sealed the slammer 4 is. However if you don't plan on dunking or splashing the reel, the fact that it's full metal with a higher drag may be the more appealing reason for you to consider it. Perhaps penn will someday make a leap forward and increase the size of the main gear. I would have considered buying a dx later down the track if the prices dropped significantly if only the main gear wasn't so small. It bothers me personally. I highly recommend you read Alan's review of the gosa, where it is compared directly to the stella. He is the man you should be listening to, he keeps them all honest and calls out any nonsense in the fishing industry. Cheers and best wishes with your purchase. Regards.

@@vizionsys thank you so much. I already know I will definitely buy a 10k saragosa for my needs. One day, like you, I may consider a DX if the prices stabilize more. I’m sure that is sometime off. The 3’s that are listed as cheap here in America are not in stock, there are plenty of 3’s in stock yet at a slammer 4 price

Id def recommend the 6k for lures

I got the SW 6000 this week mostly for casting lures and of course you can use baits. I have the SW 14000 for fishing from boat. For live bait or bottom fishing I have the Thunnus 12000. And Yes, I'm Shimano fan! (My conventionals reels are Shimano too).

The 6k os definitely nore than capable. I've caught a ton of big fish on the old spheros 6k with 30lb braid.

@@BeachBomberFishing ok thanks bro. See you out there.

@@BeachBomberFishingwhat type of big fish ? And how much did these big fish weigh?

Bg sucks ass , good to hear

it’s 95% the same as the spheros

Also what is a good rod for it?

The Ultegra is a great reel but it will only take water splashes. It is really not designed to be in the water. It is designed for long casts and the 5500 is for light Surfcasting, with this I mean it should be used with maximum 4 oz sinkers and will handle moderately sized fish (up to 15lb or so). I have two and use them at the beach with great results but I would never attempt to wade often or fight big fish. Ultegra's casting performance with my 13-ft rods is awesome and you won't need to wade at all. At the beach, the Spheros will be ideal for those that like to wade and get closer to the water, it is a powerful and very rigid reel, so targeting big fish (Tarpon, Sharks, etc), should not be a problem at all. Spheros will not cast as well but not too far off the Ultegra in the right hands with the right rod and technique, it is not slow oscillating and its spool is of a smaller diameter (about 8-10mm comparing Ultegra 5500 vs Spheros 6000). However, Shimano has the best line lay in the market and the AR-C spool, you may loose 10% distance all things being equal. Both great reels!

@@christiancml yeah I was on shore in the surf but something big pulled it in the water with the rod holder and all... luckily it got wrapped around the base of another rod holder and didn't get pulled out to sea Craziness I know Use curado dc and vanford for wade trips Thanks for the info

Id get this over the spinfisher

@@BeachBomberFishing and it have wooble on the handle? I have an okuma surf 8k and it have lot of wobble and the spool also have some kind of wobble. Thanks for your advice I will get the spheros no doubt of your word.

8k

That's more than big enough lol

@@BeachBomberFishing Alr ye casue I only have uses 50ws,80ws and 130s for lbsf

if it says SW, then it for sure can be used in fresh as salt is the corrosive one of the two

Let me just save you some time: get the Spheros and don't look back.

Lmfao it did to me 🤣

Its a surfcasting trigger. Lets you cast harder with heavier weight, without the braid cutting your fingers

Most of the better reels bail arm will not automatically close...this is to prevent your lure from snapping off if you touch the handle by mistake while casting

That reel sucks imo

@@BeachBomberFishing friends have the 4000 and can’t complain about it,smooth as a stradic

@@BeachBomberFishing You just know nothing about that size. Its a rebranding of the previous stradic which is a proven great reel for inshore fishing just not surf fishing.

Its not on the reel, i put them on the casting aid.

This reel is 💯 better than the bg

Saragosa for sure

@@BeachBomberFishing Thanks brotha. Love the videos

im pretty certain the 5000 and 6000 are the same reel body with different size spools , like the 8k and 14k are the same with differnt size spools. look at the reel weights and drag specs. 20/30lb braid go with the 5000/6000.... 50lb+ braid go with the 8000/14000

@@qwiswaz9774 should get HG or PG?

@@fdsaffff SPHEROS SW A

SW 6000 is the way to go because the next model (8000) the weight is heavy for casting. I have the SW 6000 HG and SW 14000 HG models for different applications. If I need more power I use Torium HG and Tyrnos II for offshore fishing.

Ok well, go buy a sougayilang from amazon then. You have to understand that reels range from $50 to $1000, a $140 reel falls in the budget and value category.

@@BeachBomberFishing Reels definitely don’t start at $50. $50-60 is probably the top end of “budget” reels lol I would never own a Sougayilang or whatever that is either! Unless you dunk your reels in saltwater, there are awesome reels available in the $50 range. Shoot I have a handful of Shimanos that are beyond awesome, on close out, for $30-35 in the 3000-4000 sizes. You do you, but calling this reel a budget reel is beyond fantasy. Vast majority of people that fish spend nowhere close to that much money on their reels. That’s reality. Rich people do…and others that are convinced that you have to spend big money on a reel do. I am a hardcore fisherman and have been fishing much longer than you have been alive. Can assure you of that. Again, you do you, but this isn’t a fun get reel lol.

@@IWillNotArgueWithMorons Penn Pursuit or the Fierce is still the best budget reel for the money unless you dunk the reel and even then you can work on them rather easily.

So what is your recomended budget reel sir? Curious to know, and because you had so much experience. Tks

Hi joe surprise to see you here. New spheros 2021 is tick all the boxes. Compare to bg mq(which is difficult to maintenance) the new spheros is mile ahead

@@igedewahyuarsana yep...best reel so far..that I have field tested for GTs..and small game..

@@igedewahyuarsana yep the BG MQ failed pretty fast..