The Best ELR Cartridge??? 

Thanks for distilling your experience down for us mere mortals! Happy Easter to you both!

I got inspired to extend my 22lr shooting.

Thrilled with this professional and well done channel. Thank you!

If you “only” have a mile or two. Here in my area I can’t find a range past 300 yards.

Recently found your channel (again) lol made sure to subscribe this time. I appreciate your pragmatic and realistic views on things. No ego, just logic and good shooting. Cheers.

Glad you nailed it in saying no one particular round for extreme long range. Myself I do lean toward the 7mm Ultra but it’s also a barrel roaster 🔥 generally speaking. Have examined a few a few barrels with a bore scope and interesting to watch the spider cracking and barrel erosion. Keep doing the stuff you do... We all enjoy living vicariously through you two. By the way, several in Georgia, USA have indicated they want to purchase an adjustable rear bag rest. If sales come through pls know I’m preaching your concepts. Still wanting to purchase a 4 port muzzle break for me 338 Lapua Mag

Really love Sam's giggle. And all the rest of your content also. Keep up the work.

I really enjoy your commentary. I appreciate that rather than giving an opinion about this is the best cartridge or this is the best rifle setup, you present ideas and concepts for the viewer to use. I know you don't consider your self an "expert," but, you teach extremely well. Thanks for the open ended ideas instead of closed minded facts.

Great that she gets so happy when you get a hit. Cool lady

thank you for a great conversation. even a 22 at 500 yards falls in there. and, one could afford to shoot lots!

Just discovered your channel. This video was really informative. Thanks.

Would be awesome to see ultra sub moa at 1760 yards. The infamous 1 mile shot, ultra sub moa project would be a great series to for you and Sam to do. Most of us wil never even get to attempt a shot at 3500 yard and beyond. I would define ultra sub as 1/3 moa or less. Consistently getting 6 inch groups at 1760 yards and then going into what is needed to do it. I hope you guys will consider doing some kind of project in this category. I truly believe it would be a huge series you guys can do. I also think there are so many people that have the opportunity to shoot at 1760 yards, and with that I also believe that the now infamous 1 mile shot is what most people believe to be the benchmark of long distance precision rifle. Thank you for the great content and I look forward to seeing episode 1 of the infamous 1 mile shot, ultra sub moa project.

That was a great shot. About 12 second flight times give or take. That loop is still amazing to me. You guys are making those shots with relatively light rifles. Our rifles weigh 60 pounds and use highly customized machine rests. Has anyone been “eccentric” enough to play with any old or modern 20 mm cartridges. If SKS industries are still in buisness, they could make a shorter case like the JDJ. JGS would make me the reamers. Maybe later.

Super interesting video, for me I was happy to get a 9 inch group at 730 yards with a 1886 lever action in 50-110 with the 500 grain cast Lee bullet at 1400 fps with Creemore sights like The one on the sharps rifle in Quigley down under

If you’re interested in a 7mm cartridge that shoots a 195gn @ 3000fps, check out the 7mm-300. It takes a 300wm case and necks it down to 7mm. I think it pushes a 180gn Berger @ 3150fps with a 26” Barrel.

Your comment on smaller calibers not giving as good feedback is spot on, I like shooting 22lr myself as my best so far has been 600 yards, so pretty much subsonic from the moment it leaves the barrel. Great point that larger calibers may show bigger splash and dust in the air which helps getting on target. I am always learning watching your videos, I may need a Charlie for my longer shots

Another great perspective on ELR! This is why I mostly shoot .223/5.56 in my area: if I only have 1400yds MAX then why waste the powder pushing a bigger pill? The concept of shooting that far with a .223 is no different than shooting 4k with a .338. And what you learn by shooting beyond your caliber's reasonable expectations is transferable to the bigger guns/shots--if you ever get that chance. I encourage my students to start with a .223 or .308 because you can learn these same lessons without taking out a second mortgage or selling your child's kidney.

You need to come to America and shoot King of 2 mile. I watch these guys with 50 calls that look like they are over 5’ long and weigh 40 pounds and shoot at a target that is 6’x6’ and if they catch an edge you would think they have accomplished the impossible. Mate you are king of things that simply amaze me personally.

Here in South Australia (Adelaide), a range that opens everyday is usually 300m max, we do have a range that goes 500m but they only open on 2 weekend each month, if it rains then back to 300m again, 22LR is really the best fun for buck you could get here

I love the thought of you guys developing a wildcat cartridge in 7mm at 3-4k FPS!!! I'd re mortgage my house to buy rifle in "7mm 4AW express" 😉👍

Mark and Sam - first off , I love your teamwork! So thank you for sharing your videos ! I really appreciate watching other people do what I enjoy doing with rifles. Going waaaaaaayyyy outside the standard “effective range” of a cartridge and running the numbers and having a blast while doing it ! Now that I’m moving up in the world (caliber) . I was hoping you can answer me this - at what range is your typical zero when you set up your rifle before you run it out to past 2000 yards ? Do you do something as simple as 100 yard zero so the math going up is predictable and the velocity and drop is still close to what it was at the muzzle ? Or do you run it at 300-600 for the initial zero ? Thank you and I wish you and your wife a happy and successful 2020 ! -Taren

So take the rife you have and learn to get the most out of it. The marketing guys must really hate you. 😂. Great video.

Hi Mark and Sam, great video and very informative as always, I’m currently looking at a couple of rifles chambered in 338 lapua magnum, I’m doing some research for various equipments to go along with it, I have a question seeing as you use this cartridge in your Sako TRG, what dies do you use for case prep when reloading? more specifically, brand? Part number for a set would be extra handy, there’s a few out there, but I’m finding mixed reviews on most of them, you don’t lead people up the garden path and I trust your view on these things, Cheers from Melbourne

mates got a 7mm .300RUM .WORKS REAL GOOD

Hi mark nice vid. What FPS SD do you usually aim for in your hand loads and how many shots do you take to measure it? I’m getting a tikka t3x superlite in 7mm rem mag for mainly stalking but also want to take it out to 750m if I need to in a hunting application. I know the barrel is super skinny so I don’t plan to sit there and have 10 shots. Is a 15SD good enough for that? I haven’t started loading yet but my .270 win was averaging a 12-20SD for the handloads I made for it

The best is the one you've invested time into to learn and can afford to shoot. Going to make a much better distance shooter if you get out every weekend to sling dozens of 30 cal rounds than if you save up for a .50 and can barely afford to feed it, or worse, never actually stretch its legs far enough to learn how to shoot at its further capabilities and actually learn wind.

I’m so glad I watched this. I’m going to stick with my .224 and work the piss out of it.

22 eley @600 is similar to 308 @1500. It is very fun.

nice video ,i have question what is that device you put front of scope lense?

I like the inverted "gun pit" so you can aim at the sun.

Hello Mark, I really enjoy your videos. Lots to learn. I am contemplating my next rifle build for quite some time now and would love to read your thoughts on it. I have a 2.400m range nearby (lucky me) and want to have a rifle build to reach farther than with my .300 Win Mag. The calibers in question are .300 Norma Mag and .338 Lapua Mag, both rifles otherwise being quite similar in weight and suppressed. I am currently leaning towards the .338 Lapua Mag because as far as I read up on it it would be affected less by wind and distances are known. I would love to read your oppinion on it. Thanks!

Now the 28 nosler is king along with the 30 nosler. 28 Nosler is still the 7mm bullet. 😁👍

I think a 6.5x55 Ackley Improved would be a great cartridge without being a barrel burner.

I have a .300 WinMag Ruger Precision which is a handy long range tool for sure. But to illustrate your point: I still think the hardest shot I ever made was hitting a coke can at 100 yards on a windy day with a .22 Weihrauch HW80 air rifle. That felt like a real achievement!!!

have you reviewed a victrix and if not can you please do so

Excuse my novice question here, but what is that device you have in front of your scope @5:40? I've seen you mount it on several videos, but not all. Cheers!

264-300 Weatherby Magnum?

I think I have the gun ... a Swedish Mouser shoots nice groups but 13" high at 100 m ...

At what distances can you expect a Hornady ELD Match 147gr. 6.5 creedmoor to go subsonic with a 2685fps at exit? I'm sure this is not an easy question with lots of variables.

shoot an old mauser 7x57 and a cz 455 22 lr on 100 m greetings from the Netherlands

is there an ideal body weight(human kg's) vs recoil kick, calculation?

should I buy a 300win vs 7mm rem mag? opinions? looking at a lefthand tikka t3x superlite for coyote /deer/elk in open hilly countryin eastern oregon usa

Watching this for a second time...

So My Take Is .50BMG Would Be The Best Universal ELR Rifle Caliber For 2Mile Shooting Because of The Ballistic Coefficient of The .50 BMG 😮🙂

Sounds like you're looking at necking down a 300 norma mag to a 7mm for those kinds of velocities.

In the army we shot 300 meters with the 5.56...... The wind would blow that cartridge all over the place I couldn’t imagine shooting a mile

hi Mark, ever think of shortening a 50 bmg and necking it to 375? should be more efficient than cheytac and faster if it's possible to do. might make that 5000 shot easier. Also I'm building a 6.5 saum and I'm wondering which mdt chassis is your favorite, the mdt acc, ess, or lss gen 2 xl, and also I was wondering how much lighter the lss is than the ess. Thanks and happy Easter!

What app do you use for measuring distance?

416 Barrett

My 2 cents for most peoples' range and budget limitations is a 243 or 6 Creedmoor in a 24-26" heavy barrel with a 1-7 or 1:8 twist. 6mm bullets in 105-115 grains are capable of terrific accuracy out to 1200 yards and ELR fun out to a mile or more, all with little recoil. If you have a lot of $ or a range longer than a mile then you are lucky and the sky is the limit!

When can we expect you guys to capture the world record longest shot?😉

I’m making do with what I’ve got..... turning my Sako M995 .270 into a tac driver at 500m! Have a laugh and learn something!!!!

14.9mm 👍

The Best ELR Cartridge in a rifle under 13lbs ? ?

Hey, I'm back to the channel from a long break......Man you have lost some weight......All part of the plan I hope.

Hi mate have you ever tested a .308 155gr Palma match round in 1in12 barrel

farthest i can shoot with my 22 is 300 yards. and thats maxing out my scope adjustments

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Use Alco bullets

Someone send mark and sam a Arken 6-24x50 34mm scope

Heavy artillery takes rotation of the Earth into account. Is that an issue for ELR?

For LR hunting here in Nevada I chose 6.5 PRC in 143 gr. Hornady Precision Hunter (ELD-X) cartridges. VERY accurate in my Browning X-bolt Pro rifle. Great on 1,100 yard steel at my range in Boulder City, NV but only for the 1st three shots, until the skinny barrel heats up. But hey, It's a hunting rifle and I should not need more than 3 shots on big game.

I don't know if you heard about the Canadian sniper who killed an ISIS member from 2.2 miles using 50 cal A MAX. I still can't believe it but it is already a confirmed kill from the first shot. from what I have experienced, the 50 cal become unpredictable after it goes subsonic and for the marksman to hit from 2.2 Miles, it would need like 3 to 10 shots depending on many factors. On the other hand, I never tested 416 Barett or Chaytac but both of them claim to have better stability on long ranges far beyond what 50 cal can do. Chaytac claims that with one cold bore shot, you will be able to hit the target. While Barrett claims that cheytac requires a special computer to really give you the precise calculations of elevation and winds while their 416 Barretts can be easily calculated by any ballistic software accurately which makes it the best ELR bullet ever. While both claims to be the best, you see the longest 3 confirmed kills were all done by 50 cal. it makes me so confused to figure out if I should stick to 50 cal for ELR or to try also the 416 Barrett and Cheytac. what about if I have to pick one of them ( either Barrett or Cheytac ) which should be the best choice to pick? A question that I am struggling in finding an answer for.

408 cheytac

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