The Best Input Lag Settings You're Not Using 

New upload on the second channel also! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z4tbY2xhPF0.html

I love that you're into the competitive scene so you actually get what needs to be done to get the best possible settings and setup for competitive.

Mate, just props to you! This channel is awesome! So much info, so many practical tips here + the asthetics. Greetings from Germany! No time to play and build a gaming rig rn, but man, I have found so much inspiration here for when the time finally comes to build my own rig! Much appreciated!

TL;DW: Play on low settings and enable reflex boost if available.

Your comparison with facts and practical application is definitely something I look forward to all my life when judging anything tech related. Great channel & all the best!

oh heck yea. the entire reason i built a computer was for competitive shooters. Love that your channel is touching on this

Thank you for being a tech channel that gives Apex love! It's the reason why I subbed to you so long ago!!

great information. exactly the type of videos that need to be out there and how input lag is so critical

Always love to wake up to your videos on the way to work !

1. More frames = better 2. Maxing out your GPU is bad. 2.1. If you're maxing out your GPU, ultra low latency, or reflex will help reduce the penalty. 3. Framelimiter can be set to a value your GPU can comfortably maintain, improving consistency and avoiding maxing out the GPU. (4. With G-sync you'll want to limit the FPS to your refresh rate, or ideally slightly below to avoid tearing from running _above_ your g-sync range.)

you are legitimately the only channel I've ever listened to. I undervolted my 5600x + 3070 setup and couldn't be happier with the performance. keep it up

Thanks for the detailed testing. Good stuff.

I love your channel it’s very useful for things I find i need often.

Jeez this man is getting more swole

Would love to see a behind the scenes of how you hooked the mouse up!

Thank you, I learned something new today!

Great video! You should make a video about network and internet settings to address internet latency which is the other big killer for online gaming.

one thing good about reflex is the low input lag even with big fps drops helped alot when in certain fights i would go from say 240fps to 130fps

What if you cap the framerate and use reflex boost or any anti-lag solution at the same time? Would it matter?

Awesome video man, thank you for your work and for sharing :)

Great video, Would love to see the difference for input lag of mouse + keyboard between plugging to monitor and PC

Interesting that the framerate cap looks to be the best method, as long as you have sufficient GPU power to cap it at a high enough FPS. The results at 6:09 is especially interesting with the capped lower frames having lower input lag even though the higher frame tests didn't come close to maxing GPU usage.

When you used a frame cap, were you leaving reflex on or off? I'm curious because for example the 3070 results in Valorant at 6:08 show an fps cap being superior despite 60fps less, and gpu usage being very low in all cases. Yet reflex/boost latency was higher still. This has me wondering if enabling reflex/boost in an fps capped CPU bound scenario could slightly increase latency? vs fps cap + no reflex.

Great analysis. I had no idea reflex takes precedent over NULL if you have both on, great information to know 👍

your channel is super blessed and dope. ty my friend

Hey @Optimum Tech I was curious if you have ever heard of a software called Timer Resolution? It is suppose to change windows timings from default 15.625 ms to the set 0.5 ms which decreases input latency (when set up correctly). With this on in game, the user is suppose to turn off raw input. It does feel like my inputs are more responsive and immediate but, I am not sure if it is just placebo or it actually works. I am also not really sure how to test this nor do I have the equipment to test it. This has really peaked my curiosity and I was hoping for some help.

LOVED THE INTRO

great explanation! great video! thanks

Awesome videos man!!!

You could also use to show results with adaptive sync/frame cap, and add CSGO to the chart. ;)

Can you test the input lag on AMD card too? I think AMD also has its own latency reduction implementation on driver level

Great video this is info that the masses need to know. Thank You 😊 On a side note love the monitor. What model is it?

I learned something new, being extremely tech savvy , you never fail to amaze me with your knowledge as well as gaming skills.

i cap my fps at 280 in overwatch with reflex + boost. I have a 2060 and 144 hz monitor. Should i disable and reflex + boost and just leave it capped? It seems like capped is best according to this video. I cap at 280 cause its pretty stable, and i heard that unstable framerate can cause variable input lag which can affect aim.

I allways used these settings. It makes gaming so much smoother.

This video is absolutely fantastic thank you.

huge props to the testing

One of the few Tech Reviewers that's actually cracked LOL!

Great video, would've loved to seen the differences with vsync, gysnc, and freesync as well.

Thank you. Very useful

As a programmer seeing NULL threw me off. "Card + Nothing? Isn't that the first one?", I asked myself.

I’m somewhat amazed that ”battlenonsense” is always abcent from the comments in these types of videos ...he’s the frickin god almighty when it comes to latency etc.

Two questions, with framed cap, do you mean having reflex boost off? Also, what about camping and having reflex boost on?

I enjoy searching and watching info for my next build. The building process itself then swapping parts occasionally and tweaking software but on PS5 I’m less worried about if the other player firing at me knows these tips or if their rig and peripherals are better.

Nice lil bonus for setting a frame rate cap can sometimes yield lower temps. My gpu was pushing up to 79C w/ unlocked frame rate. I set a cap of 118 (my LG C9 can only do 120hz) and that dropped my temps to 70-72C.

2 uploads in one day? Thanks Ali!

Love your vids, bro

Amazing video bro!

Would be great to see a 21:9 vs 16:9 Video again but with the newer tech. So is 21:9 with 160hz better than 16:9 with 240hz for FPS games? Two years ago you talked about a nearly unfair advantage of the wider field of view while you just called everything above 144hz a very small advantage. But tech changed and you are more experienced now.

I have so much input lag on valorant I can't even hit a shift walking guy with awp

Hey dude very informative video overall. I am struggling with input lag on mw3/wz on my brand new pc. It is not insane but it is noticeable and the weird thing is that i experience different input lag on mw3 anddifferent on wz to the point that i have to use different aim sensitivity. I got a 4060 an m2 ssd 32gb ddr5 and a 7600x. Any advice would be much appreciated much love from Greece. p.s. i experience more lag when i use low latency on+boost instead of just on.

What about nvidia reflex + boost with framerate cap? Would that give less input lagg then just framerate capping?

So from my understanding, the best way to use all your hertz (given you can reach it) cap the fps at your refresh rate along with turning on low latency, and if you can't reach say, 360fps with 360hz, then cap it at a reachable number like maybe 240fps to get less latency.

I have a suggestion for a video: Full Tower vs Mid Tower - have full tower case manufacturers lost the plot? There are a huge number of"mid tower" cases which can fit three or more 360mm radiators at the same time. But if you look at "full tower" cases, which are supposed to be bigger, nearly all of those are designed for only 360mm radiators as well - at most they seem to offer one 420mm radiator slot, and even if they say they have multiple slots for 420mm radiators, when you check, they DON'T have the room to have more than one installed at a time! If mid towers are 120mm fan based, going up to 360mm radiators, then surely, by logic, the reason to pay the extra to go to full tower is to switch to quieter and more efficient 140mm fan based systems which can hold three 420mm radiators at the same time? If full tower doesn’t give full 140mm fan and multiple simultaneous 420mm radiator support (at least 3 at the same time), in the same way that mid towers already give full 120mm fan and multiple 360mm radiator support, then what’s the point in them even existing? Why would anyone buy them? Is it that much of an ask for get case manufacturers to add a couple more centimetres of room to fit these in so enthusiasts can have a zero thermal throttling solution to their overclocking top end thread ripper CPU and GPU custom water loops?

I do not understand one thing..do you enable NVIDIA REFLEX boost AND enable the ultra latency mode on a driver level at the same time? Or one exclude the other? Do you have a benefit to enable both or the boost reflex in game ( apex in this case ) does the job already without worrying about the ultra latency on a driver level? Thanks in advance

EPIC INTRO!! are those 3d rendered??

Thank u big man tech wizard. I will eat a raw egg in your honor.

Wow I have a 3070 and this makes me feel good af I’m glad I went with this over a 20 series

Very nice video, this must have taken some time to do..👍

What would be the results if I had a 144 hz monitor? You tested with 360 hz monitors and capped your fps to 360 fps at max. You I still get less input lag if I have more fps than my monitors hz?

For a long time I've wondered if g-sync affects the input lag from when you start moving the mouse to when things happen on screen. I'd like to have the Razer viper ultimate compared to the g pro ultralight in four ways. One way with both in the wireless mode and second a second time with the cable attached. With and without g-sync to see if there is any difference in latency using g-sync and wireless/cable.

You didn't touch on Vsync on or off as well as VRR.

thanks a bunch for the content

Thanks for the video!

Really interested in hearing.. did you cap the FPS in the driver or in the game when testing? I’ve heard input lag should be lower when doing it at driver level.

the SFF gods have blessed up with a double upload in a day

Thanks! It worked actually!

i have gtx 1080 with 87K cpu 240 monitor , so should i enble low latncey mode on Ultra + in game boost and in same time capping the frame rate on 240 would that be the best opstion for getting lowest latnecy possible or i have to chose between the tow capping fps on 240 or enabling the low latncy mode + boost ? i wish you answer me ty , great content bro keep it up

It would be very interesting to use that tool to measure latency in cloud gaming like shadow or geforce now

Would have liked to see with G-sync enabled, would the results be the same as an fps cap?

Hey man i love ur vids and i wanted to just put a question out there regarding input latency for pcs. I know this isnt the right video for this type of question but here we are😭. My goal here is to understand the best configuration of settings that will make my competitve games run the smoothest with the least input delay. I run on a school laptop. (Intel UHD 620) (10th Gen Core i-5 10210U) with 8 gigs of ram on a 60hz display. So for a game like valorant were i get 80-120 fps, with the lowest i can see during gameplay being around 60 what settings should i be using for the lowest input delay. I've seen your vids on frame capping but im not sure if that actually helps my input delay because what ive been taught is the higher the fps the lower the input delay so with my understanding capping to lets say 75 fps (because thats managable for 99% of a game) would be worse because 80-120 fps would provide lower frametimes but i do need someone to explain that concept to me. Do note my integrated gpu usage is always around 80-98%. I know vsync is just down right bad so i dont touch it but it is tempting as at 80-120 fps, screen tearing is pretty noticable but for that i have the option of RTSS Scanline which works to completley remove the tearing line of the screen with the only requirment being you must be reaching your monitors refresh rate in fps nearly all the time so for me that is 60fps at all times which i do get. The one concern with RTSS Scanline Sync and just capping fps with RTSS in general is ive seen some vids were the supposed benefits of capping fps to your refresh rate only works when you use the in-game fps cap and when the person capped with RTSS they didnt see the added benefit of it. So for RTSS I just want to understand if their frame cap gives you the same benefits of the in-game cap. Also one question with RTSS whats the point of just using the fps cap when you can use Scanline Sync which gives you the added benefit of no screen tearing while also serving as a fps cap. So now Ive come to conclude these 'presets/configurations' for my system. 1. Just bare uncapped 2. Cap to refresh rate / what i can achieve 99% of the time using in-game capper 3. Cap to refresh rate / what i can achieve 99% of the time with RTSS 4. Use RTSS Scanline Sync to eliminate screen tearing (it caps to refresh rate automatically) Now it is up to you guys and @optimumtech to help me decide and answer some of the questions I had. Help will be much appreciated. P.S One suggestion I could give to your input delay vids is have a section dedicated to testing the different input delay methods on a low end system because from what I know is the benefits of lets say nvidia reflex would be much greater on a lower end system as to a higher end system.

Hi thx for this video. Supersampling can add input lag?

What about if you have a frame cap and enable reflex / NUUL?

You should make productivity videos. I just can't wrap my head around the fact that you make this amazing production videos, are pretty good at competitive games and also swole af. Do you even sleep

i read some articles and i also noticed that, on the benq xl2411p, all picture mode settings have more input lag than the fps 1 and fps 2 settings, but fps 1 and fps 2 have worse colors

is it worth it to use all of them? or should I just go with reflex on apex

What about adding Gsync or Freesync to the mix? How much latency does Gsync add?

So if i play CSGO only, ultra latency mode off/on/ultra? Which is the correct answer? Trying to find it out for a while now.

GREAT VIDEOS. Quick question about input lag: 1- mice to monitor like "odyssey g7 240hz" VS 2- Mice to Computer USB3 port. Which one have less input lag? 1 or 2 in 2022. Is it true Mice to Monitor have best result and less input lag? (i do not talk about reponse time and keyboard, only input lag.)

Ok, but does it have any effect in game? if both enemy player appearance on screen and your shot will be delayed by same input lag? or if I have low input lag and I shoot much earlier than avg player how then game will compensate for it if hit registration is done on server side? (like in csgo) would be great to know

I tried capping my frames in BF4 after i saw Battlenonsense's video and the game just feels so much smoother. I use the powersaving tool in Radeon software and have set my min frames to 142 and max frames to 144. Night and day difference.

Thank you!

Great Video man!

What would you guys do if you had a 4090 with a 360hz oled. And in cod I travel from 250-330fps depending on map. Should I cap it somewhere? Or just let it be? Thanks! 🙏

I could have a thousand frames and 0 ping and I'd still be silver

sad fact : Apex Legends is smoother with 190fps cap vs uncapped

Question is Reflex On or On+Boost? With a 3070 and 3800x mainly playing Warzone/ModernWarfare and Fortnite. I play 1080p144hz max settings (prefer visuals over competitive)

What about the ULMB from the Rog Switft 360hz monitor? And will it stack with Nvidia's reflex boost?

Overwatch also has a native setting called "reduced buffering". You should have included it in your test since it probably overlaps/conflicts with those driver settings.

PLEASE with your input latency testing setup test borderless windowed vs full screen in todays games in 2022, like Apex, Valorant, Rocket League, etc. I’ve heard mixed reviews and would like it put to the test FOR SCIENCE! Keep up the awesome content. This channel has single handedly inspired me to dial in my rig settings and peripheral choices and get back into shooters and feel competitive in them again. Thanks from the USA!

Do you main the BenQ XL2546K for most your competitive FPS gaming nowadays?

Do I need reflex on in Ncp or just in warzone? And should I cap my fps? I have a 240 hz monitor but I only get 180-220 fps on rebirth

Would've been interesting to test a Windows 10 Exclusive Fullscreen fix as well (Windows broke this feature years ago.. you need a registry fix for it as well as enabling "Disable Fullscreen optimizations" enabled for it to work. This decreases the Input Lag M.A.S.S.I.V.E.L.Y for me..)

what so capping framerate reduces input lag? I've always been told the opposite

What about laptops? I don't have low-latency setting in Nvidia Control Panel. Would it work the same if I just cap framerate at equal to my display (for the games that don't reach 2x display framerate)?

How does this go with ps3/ps4? Is it ok just to go with default settings on the monitor itself? Will anything in the monitor settings help reduce input lag more?

I just realized yesterday that Nvidia's overlay was causing 3 layers of input lag; desktop capture and the streaming option. Turn them off! Even if you're not streaming, make sure you get them off in the options.

Actually, some games turning low settings get you no extra FPS gains. The message is more so take whatever setting is higher in FPS. If going from high to low only nets 1 fps...then probably just stay on high

It’s all about the GPU basically an where the Input of the monitor stands from the Calibration of the CPU and how much every GB of Ram can produce an entire class of Frames overall Well done mate I’ve learned a lot when I watch your videos 😅😊

can i ask a quick question i have a 3080 and i was wondering for the best low latancy should i have gsync on or off and if its on should i also put low latancy on ultra and vsync to on or just leasve everythin off? thank you