Cheers brother. Thanks for the video... rotating drum is the best way to go along with bacterial filters and the raised falls to oxygenate the water along with uv lights and RO systems . Tried other options and faced a lot of issues which made it hard to keep the balance. A tip all the koi lovers here: either built a tank and filter that’s of overcapacity for the numbers you want or understock the pond. NEVER OVER STOCK, NEVER COMPROMISE ON THE FILTER QUALITY & CAPACITY
Spent 20yrs faffing out with different filters, cloverleaf/nexus,never again, /sieve,bead filter,, now i have synergy 35 combi drum with backi shower with Sakura media, their both an absolute delight, best money I've ever spent on the pond.
Wow what a great collection. Beautiful showa. Nice and even pattern. Thanks for all the good info. Great explanations as well. I need to add to my filtration.
@@madaboutkoi As you should be happy with them. If you got them all at once it would take the dreaming and planning out of it. I add a few each year. I get a couple in the late fall early winter where they stay quarantined all winter then go into a separate pond for one year.. They get moved into one of two ponds after that. Mine are only domestics. I help the breeder cull in the summer and I get to pick a few for my collection as a thanks
Recently bought a QK25 combi from Queni Few teething problems to start with but now it’s hassle free. Submersible UV which is nice too, water quality is on its way up. Happy days
Thanks for showing clearly how the drum works. Intake goes through the middle of screen to outer outer part. Where are the intake and outlet on moving bed? Thanks
Thanks for the feedback Anthony. The moving bed inlet/intake is a 4” pipe at the drum outlet side. The pump you see on the video connected to the moving bed is the bed outlet.
Kevin the drum filter is expensive. Basically you need is the 300 micron sieve or wire mesh. It should be 300mm. I use it as a layer from first filter and last filter. The holes are super tiny that clear cleaning water flows through it. The only difference is just wash/rinse it once you see it full.
@@madaboutkoi yeah mate not that i have one, they are a lot of money lol, i run a sieve but my mate has one and the uv stops the brown build up on the stainless steel mesh!!. It honestly looks like brand new inside and hes running a 55 watt uv in the drum and done away with his evo inline uv because it does a better job of killing algae!!
Question? Is the water flowing into the bio material directly from the pond or is it coming from the drum filter? Also is the filter electrical hard wired or is it a standard plug? Thanks for the video.
Ive been looking at drum filters to make cleaning more low maimtainence need the combi like the queni koi 25 the oase compact and draco drum they look intimidating to put together though and i'm pump fed
Really simple to install. They do pump and gravity versions. I run Queni drums. Fantastic bits of kit and i know theres good support at hand if i was to encounter any issues
This sort of mechanical filter is not just for preventing suspended solids from getting into the biofilter. It is actually more important that it directly remove waste before it has a chance to get broken down by bacteria. If you are doing it right then the vast majority of the biochemical oxygen demand reduction is done by physical removal from contact with the water. This means that a continuously removing mechanical filter is a bit better than one with cleaning cycles especially if you have the intake designed to remove concentrated settled waste from the pond bottom.
Many thanks for that. Could you tell me, where does the waste from the drum filter go? Just straight down the drain or do you have another tank you need to pump it out from?
Enjoyed that video thanks for sharing, drum filters are a rarity in SA and if you can find them they are triple UK prices,so unfortunately not really an option, we mainly run old scholl filters which serve us well, a quick question ? What micron is the drum filter?
@@madaboutkoi I've noticed that people just lack the understanding that the pump isn't broke you just need to clean it.. Abit weird that. Almost as bad as the "came disassembled, sent back!" Reviews lol
Hi Simon You do realise the plastic that oase drums are made of isnt “UV safe”. Thats why oase dont provide an amalgam UV option. They are always housed units to stop the UV light attacking the plastic.
i got a great koipond however i can't get clear water ....reason i got 7 ducks in the pond too.....and that's a load of shit to deal with.... ps they are wild ducks so they come and go..... the ducks feed the koi btw lol .
Drums brake down occasionally and wear out over time, then are costly to fix. Not 'best' when it comes to that. Non mechanical never brakes down. You mention the nexus takes time to clean, less than 10 minutes, come on. Yes the water cleanliness is better, but the real question is, are you willing to pay for it ?
Hi Mirola73, I hear so many people say drums break down eventually and costly to fix. Ive yet to see a drum break down yet and if you buy a reputable system with good spare parts at hand then there shouldnt be an issue with any “breakdowns”. The principle of them is very basic. A motor, control panel, a cog and a shaft. They arent really that complex. We wiuldnt buy anything in this world is we were scared of them breaking down. Cars for instance, do you drive? Or do you take a scooter to work as it doesnt have a engine, electrics etc. Embrace the technology is what i say. The results are phenomenal compared to other forms of filtration. A nexus these days is £1000 plus new. Yet a basic drum can be picked up for similar money. The bio side can be made quite easily so the difference in outlay is marginal.
@@madaboutkoi Time will tell, my second hand nexus cost me 300 quid. Made some own upgrades to it increasing water cleanliness and auto fill, doing a sterling job.
Amazingly koi live and breed a lot faster in a mudpond strange how everyone boosts about there amazing grands worth of this and that lol brainwashed into spending 000000s they don't need to
@@madaboutkoi if they can thrive in a mudpond which is very cleary a lot murkier and without filtration why do people get told they have to have beads skimmers nexus etc etc
Because a man made pond isnt a mud pond…. The mud ponds in japan are constantly fed by fresh water. This ensures water “refreshed” constantly. Also scale wise they are vastly bigger than the average garden koi pond, therefore they dont get polluted by the koi waste as much as a garden pond. Koi are renowned for being “messy” and producing a lot of waste. This needs to be dealt with quickly in a garden pond to ensure water parameters and bad bacteria levels are kept at safe levels. You can keep koi on a budget using diy type filters but the negative side to this is they can be very laborious and difficult to maintain. The more you pay generally means the more simpler and less labour intensive the filtration becomes. So to answer you question yes you dont need to spend £1000’s on a pond…..but….. you do need to size your filtration correctly to your pond size and stocking levels. If you want to make life easier for yourself and sit back and enjoy the hobby then investing in a filtration system like a nexus or a drum will give you that. If you have a limited budget and are happy to get your hands dirty and be constantly squeezing out sponges and foams during peak season then a diy system may suit you better.
@@madaboutkoi I see and understand clearer now ty. I just put a 4inch t piece in bottom drain 1 pipe to filter other 1 goes straight to main garden drain controlled by vavles so when I notice waste I just drain a little bit top it back up and happy days oh a clean just a box standard pressure filter once a fortnight water remains crystal clear with no problems oh pond is 1000 gallon with 8 koi more than reccomened I know but what saved from them not needed extornatonate filters I bought a couple of extra fish
Yeah as i said it all comes down to what you want from the hobby. 1000g as you said is quite small for 8 fully koi but if they are small then you will get away with it. Sometimes doing it right from the start can save so much money in the future but again it comes down to budgets and your hobby goals. Hope all goes well with your setup this year 👍🏻