THE BEST LIGHTCONES IN HONKAI: STAR RAIL 

No it sucks…. Because I don’t have it 😭

@@wyattskyyskill issue tbh

​@@wyattskyyyeah i also dont have it... it sucks.

@@wyattskyy yuck

@@wyattskyy it feels good to have something that is kinda rare nowadays. but yeah it sucks for those who don't have it.

Next time

agreed, I stopped watching at luocha's light cone because of this

@@arvzg No, he stated his stance on the limited sustain LCs. I'm talking about some of the choices for D tier

@@arvzg louchas lighcone is not worth bad choices D tier

frfr

it's not

Great lightcone for her but so many better options to roll for than a sustain sig

The issue with her LC is that the only thing you really use it for is the energy regen. The other bonuses can be given from other light cone. I regret picking it up over saving my Jades. It's nice yes but there isn't a situation that that LC in particular will do better than others. You can use some of the other light cones with similar effect. Most of which help more than her signature at surviving.

its best in simulated universe content makes fu xuan an abundance character

@@Helperishere no other preservation lightcone gives hp, its still very good, at least A tier, and the energy regen its perfect for consistenly ulting cause recent moc has been shreding her hp like crazy with all the aoe damage, no other lighcone is cutting it for me with her, i will try to get it on the rerun

@@juan.argueta We Are Wildfire does but it's not per wave. It's still not a must pickup. It's just ok. If you use a taunting LC it's 10x better for keeping your team alive and also gives very energy for ult so the energy isn't necessary. I'd recommend not getting it bc you won't notice much. It's very passive. Better yet save for another LC for a dps. It's 10000x better for your account no matter what LC it is.

Very fair

The 10% crit rate is a godsend for me since my relics suck lmao

@@wyattskyy It's more comfy/more pleasing to the eye, but the difference in DPS is still not that big.

rm lightcone is very flawed outside of 0 cycling because getting a 3t ult is so inconsistent, you need to get hit 3 times or go sp negative to get enough energy if you're not getting the extra wave energy. the damage bonus you get is nowhere nesr enough to compensate for a 4t ult cycle in slower clears.

also sparkle lc effects are on paper similar to past and future but considering how saturated % damage boosts are a lot of the time the difference is way more in favour of sparkle lc for most dps. characters like seele IL qq ect are already sitting on like 100+% damage bonus without sparkle even existing so you get diminishing returns on p&f.

​@@omniboo1762this is why I prefer not using Tingyun with my Seele. She has so much dmg bonus with Sparkle on the team that I'd rather just use a Def shredder for more dmg. Mine isn't great but she hits 200k an ult if I have Silver Wolf Def shred on them.

They’re good lightcones for the characters but infinitely better to go for any other unit, lightcone or eidolon than sustain signatures.

Nope, that lc is trash. energy? Just use multiplication, and your luocha wont have any problem about his talent up time. 12spd for 1 turn after ult? Thats is pretty trash. Just use multiplication, and your luocha gonn be superb 👍

luocha's lc is bad because the buff it gives is only 1 turn after his ult. He doesnt really need a lot of ER especially if he has er rope because he can activate his passive most of the time. There are lots of good f2p abundance LC that makes him better. I like to use perfect timing because it makes him a effect res monster while improving his heals

You are missing the context, I'd say. Kafka wants a nice DoT of her own, but the way she works, the one thing you want most of all is to be able to implode all the dots by using Ult and Skill. Her Sig gives a straightforward, not-too-big boost to DMG and an additional dot, but the main thing is that it boosts her speed. A speedier Kafka detonates DoTs more, which is an overall team damage increase. It doesn't translate well to their calcs, which assume a character is solo. Black Swan's Sig, though, injects a ton of Effect Hit on her, letting her easily hit the cap for the damage increase from her Trace. while letting you stack even more ATK or Speed. The biggest thing is that it adds even more DEF shred that Black Swan already has plus her best set, and DEF shred gets better the more you get until the 100% cap. It's full turbo focused on her personal DPS. Granted, I haven't seen the numbers on people that aren't Black Swan when added to Prisoner's 4p effect, but that's why there's such a difference between Kafka Sig numbers and BS's.

If played super optimally perhaps. But overall cruising is much more comfortable

@@wyattskyy that is true, i just hate that i feel i'm wasting the atk buff since i use atk boots on ratio, so wasting a turn on killing a minion feels very bad

Your reasoning makes no sense. With that logic take out most of the dps and their own lightcone is trash. Acheron exists and she is broken, a lightcone that can potentially get multiple stacks every cycle for free is so damn good. A tier well deserved

difference is break effect + energy is a lot more valuable than break effect + self healing

@@soulofalbedo especially when gallagher is buit with enough BEa LC like Luoch4star on him offers more healing % cause Gallas talent has a hard cap of 150% BE which is easier than ever to get now with RM, HMC , his E6, relic sets and even supporters relic sets like watchmaker giving him more BE while he builds for a 2+2 BE Healing set

Said it at the end cause I forgot to put the picture lol. Probably the most worth out of all the sustain signatures but still not worth it imo. Prob c

Fr like pela c2 welt or dps sliver wolf has good use of it XD

I STOPPED PLAYING THE ONLY MONTH IT WAS OUT

Yeah, it should be S. That lightcone got to be the most versatile Nihility lightcone, 40% EHR and 8 energy for attacking debuffed enemies is so good, it's also free. The downside is being limited edition, maybe 😂

Argenti's LC damage bonus only applies to ultimates, the BP one is universal.

Post-op bis for natasha. Night of fright unused. Perfect timing bis for lynx, and post-op 2nd. Hey over here is 5th and night of fright is unused. Perfect timing bis for luocha. Night of fright, unused. Post-op bis for huohuo, sig lc close 2nd. What is real bis for gallagher, and post-op 2nd. Night of fright, unused. Sig lc bis for bailu, and post-op 2nd. Night of fright is 9th bis. Welp. Statistics show post-op and perfect timing are the best abundance lc’s in the game.

He shown that it is superior than trushcha cone

Pretty sure gnsw s2 or s3 is better.. and more versatile.. not hard to get it.

It’s not in my inventory 🥹

It will remain as a rare thing for older players

All the event cones have ugly artwork anyways

​​@@alexanderluna4598Keep whining Lmao

@@alexanderluna4598 u ain't looking at the LC's art when on battle dumbss

lmao

cogs is goated wdym

@@Kam1_9 memory of the past exist so you just can't put it at the same tier or above

@@mattgaleur4240 memories of the past is harder to s5 meanwhile cogs gives the same effect but as a 3 star, way easier to s5

@@Kam1_9 still doesn't make it a bad lightcone, if that was the question ruan mei's or sparkle light cone would be like B since it would be better to get something else

@@mattgaleur4240 memories is not a bad lightcone, cog is just more accessible for better effects unless you have an s5 memories which is kinda hard to do *besides on ruan mei where memories always wins

As long as the crit ratios don’t suck 😭😭

Seele LC? It's better than all f2p options for most hunt characters. Swordplay s5 does the similar dmg if not worse if you have 160 speed. Freeing up room for more crit dmg substats is an over looked bonus to crit rate buffing light cones. I'd take it over my s5 Swordplay anyway. The only unit I prefer it on is Topaz if you don't have signature