The Best Lightroom Alternative? How ON1 Compares to Lightroom and Photoshop 

Adobe’s terms of service changes was blown out of proportion by the various media sources, so that is pretty unnecessary to cancel in my opinion due to that. Check out my latest video if you want to learn the facts about the whole ordeal: A.I. Scraping from Instagram and Adobe - What You NEED To Know ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yQqyIR3RpXQ.html

@@AustinJamesJackson Nicely done on the video. Helpful and informative. With respect to the ToS part though, you might want to have a close look at Section 4.2. It specifically states that you are granting Adobe rights to sublicense your work. Even if they never use it beyond Adobe, where does that leave you if you have an NDA with a client? You *might* be alright, but then again you might not. Even so, I've been trying to delete my Adobe account for 4 days now. Adobe keeps promising they will do it right away, and yet I still have an account. Seems they don't really want to honour what they are telling us. That alone is more than worrisome in the trust department, which affects my thinking about 4.2. Also, wrt the issues being overblown, it would seem the FTC takes issue with Adobe's practices, albeit for subscription services. Again, that leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth and an unwillingness to trust them with their ToS. I've switched everything over to Affinity Photo, and zero regrets.

France is very advanced in terms of laws concerning the protection of intellectual property. Adobe tried to steal the intellectual property of its customers and, faced with the outcry that this caused, had to change its strategy which clearly proves that on the one hand they were aware of their violations and that on the other hand, they are entirely possible to force them to change their user license They want to transfer the training of their AI to their stock photos. Always illegally, without informing the authors or asking them for permission. This is illegal, arrogant, snotty behavior from a large corporation. But Adobe is not above the law and particularly in France where the legal texts such as those of the Intellectual Property Code are very firm and clear about copyright (and incidentally the right to the image of people represented) The right technique is not to leave Adobe, but to force them to enforce the law. This is what scares them: being considered as thieves and people who violate the laws concerning the Right of Authorship and the Right to the Image of the people represented. Adobe does not impress French law. Adobe will comply with French law or be prohibited from selling illegal licenses, at least in France. Which can set a precedent for other countries. And if their lawyers are not yet aware of this, this will change quickly (their multiple changes of strategy recently demonstrate that their lawyers are very active in not putting the company in legal problems)

Thanks, will do!

Glad it was helpful!

@@AustinJamesJackson I signed up with your link! Thanks again, I am subscribing.

Glad it was helpful! I honestly think ON1 may be a good choice for you.

the ai tools are an absolute game changer

I love ON1 too!

To cover every single feature would span a video that is hours long. Unfortunately there just isn’t time for it. Have to parse down into the information that most people are looking for.

@@AustinJamesJackson Nah, most people that are about to switch from one expensive software to another want to hear about the features. Mentioning that ON1's denoise is terrible compared to Lightroom costs you 10 seconds. I'm not trying to dunk on you but you should take this kind of constructive criticism seriously, looking at the like/dislike ratio of this video. We all know ON1 does most of what Lightroom does from the website, but HOW does it perform? Show it side by side, analyse the quality, save your viewers some time. I haven't learned a lot here and seeing the affiliate link with your own discount code in the description explains why the video didn't go into detail.

Awesome! That sounds like a great plan!

That’s the luxury they have by being such a large company with the most popular product!

Worse still, you can't just keep using old versions because they won't support new cameras or lenses even if you don't care about AI masking etc.

They could have had some of my money, but because they don’t even have a month by month subscription , i give my money to somebody else.

The main issue with other perpetual licences is new camera/lens support. I don't care about new features but I want the program to still work when I buy a new camera. If I buy Capture 1 today, and decide I want to get the newer version of my camera in 3 months, C1 tells me I'm fucked. I think that's the difference to other editors, which are not dependent on RAW demosaicing. I can still use a 10 year old version of Gimp (let's assume I would have paid for that) with no issues today, but the same doesn't work for RAW editors.

Hope it helps!

Adobe’s new terms are nothing to worry about. See my video that is coming out this morning.

I think people are reading into it way too much and it isn't a big deal. I won't switch. It's important for me to use the industry standard as an educator so I'm stuck using Adobe, which is fine with me. I use many of the other apps in the CC.

ON1 has some great masking tools too, and I don’t think I prefer one over the other when it comes to masking.

I've been using ON1 for many years and recently started using PS and LRC. The ON1 no noise is quicker than LRC Denoise. But the masks in LRC are really superb. You can easily add and subtract from a mask. The remove tool in PS is superior to ON1 and is even better than LRC. And of course removal using Generative fill in PS makes the combination of PS and LRC a few degrees better than ON1. The filing systems, export and saving files in ON1 is much better than PS/LRC, which I find to be very confusing after using ON1 for years. Usually, ON1 catches up to PS/LRC with about a year lag. So if they catch up and there are no major improvements to PS/LRC, I'd stick with ON1. But for now, the masking and gererative fill is so strong, that I'm going to continue to use this combination for now.

Thanks so much!

You are welcome!

I’m not sure if either one has functionality to launch right as a plugin, but you could easily save and reopen a photo in the software.

Why not just export the image in a dng from topaz/photoraw and load it into on1? A dng is the same as a raw, just without some of the metadata

Yeah, it’s certainly a very well-rounded program.

On1 Photo RAW 24.5 looks to be a big update as regards AI masking, so that might be a turning point.

Good luck!

I’ve heard that before. I personally haven’t tried it but I’ll have to give it a shot.

I believe there is a way to do it, but I’m not totally sure how it works.

Agreed!

I’m not sure, but I don’t know why it wouldn’t.

@@AustinJamesJackson Some adobe products don´t work, I am sure they will patch them in time

I personally think ON1 is far superior to Luminar Neo. Much more complete editor. Luminar is great for AI features and more gimmicky edits, in my opinion.

@@AustinJamesJackson okay I'll go with On1 then.

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for batch photos stick to ON1 Raw Luminar is more of a glorified photoshop for people who prefer presets

@@AustinJamesJackson What about Capture One Pro?

Yeah, ON1 is great! If you follow the link in the description it should take you right there.

@@AustinJamesJackson Thank you Sir !

Cool idea!

Will do!

Awesome!

You can pay monthly if you want too!

It is definitely easy to use!

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Awesome! What do you think ON1 doesn’t have that makes it not as good for experienced photographers?

I haven’t tried it!

Only for the first year.

@@AustinJamesJackson I have been paying that for several years, so unless things have changed, I don't think you are correct. The $9.99 plan includes Lightroom and Photoshop, with only 20GB of online storage. More than enough for most people who don't want or need to store their photos in the cloud. The 1TB storage plan costs $19.99 per month.

Sorry you felt that way!

@@AustinJamesJackson A major part of LRs utility is organizing and managing photo catalogs and you only barely touched on that aspect of ON1. You did a good job of covering its editing capabilities but it would have been more comprehensive to cover the cataloging workflows which matter as much for former LR users.

Adobe doesn't own any of your work or train their AI software using your work. I will agree with your other comments, but it can be harder to find learning videos for the other software.

@@AustinJamesJackson They do train their AI software using your work. They just updated their TOS and it actually says that they will do that and they ask you to agree to it.

I'm not pro-Adobe or anything, but that information is purely false and was misinterpreted to generate a headline and news. Adobe clarified in a blog post earlier this week, which all of a sudden isn't being reported on anymore. You can see it here: blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2024/06/10/updating-adobes-terms-of-use

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Good luck!

True, but usually older versions of software stop being updated, so it would be odd for a new bug to be introduced on software that isn't getting updated.

@@AustinJamesJackson The only thing I say is that the software never belongs to the person who actually buys a "user license" (and not "the software") Having worked for years as a software developer I can assure you that yes, a bug can very well appear years later on an old version. The bug is "dormant" simply because the usage or temporal situation has never arisen. Believing that software is bug-free is extremely naive and gullible. And then there is the most famous "bug" that occurs sooner or later: backward compatibility. You update your OS and now your version no longer works on your computer, and will never work on it again. The license you paid for was granted to you "as is". And if this state of the software is no longer compatible with your computer, its OS or both, your version becomes inoperative and obsolete. Licenses sold without updates (if you want an update, you have to pay for it, this is also accompanied by a license update) have a limit that you should be aware of. Believing that you will “not be held hostage by the publisher” or that you will “keep your freedom” is a simplistic short-term view. From the moment you use software, you become dependent. If you leave one software for another, you become dependent on the new one. To finish, I would like to point out that just like you, I am a professional photographer and trainer and that just like you, I am comfortable with the industrial standard: Lightroom. Adobe's subscription payment licensing policy certainly has disadvantages, but it also has many advantages, notably that of having software that is always up to date, and which continues to offer advances (which we may or may not need). - But that's another debate). The functions of software are obviously important. but the user license policy is just as important. This is why it is very important to understand that not only does the software not belong to us, but you will ALWAYS be dependent on the publisher of the software you use, even if you have purchased a license. without updating (or with updates limited in time)

You must have it set up correctly. I’ve used it on some pretty old machines and never had an issue.

That's my experience too. After getting a 4K monitor, now I need at least an 8 gb GPU for Lightroom to run properly.