I bought a sapphire in base plastic once thinking I could turn it or at worst throw it straight. It looked just like yours. Pretty overstable... more like a 10/5/0/2. I like the mamba better for #1, it's much more beginner friendly. I was also impressed with a Discraft Thrasher and Westside Sword. Both more understable and great for beginners.
Great list guys. You’re so close to the 30k mark. Keep it up. For me and having a consistent 47mph backhand a 165g Fission Wave is my go to distance driver.
Champ Beast is what I learned on. Great distance driver for me at the time that also revealed issues with my form as a relatively neutral flyer. The Wave feels like a natural step up from the Beast and the neutron wave was the first disc I threw over the 400' mark.
I'm looking forward to getting a sweet Flippy jersey at the Swanky Time Open this weekend! My favorite distance driver is a lightweight MVP Wave in Fission plastic. I also have been trying out the MVP orbital as well, it seems super flippy even for my arm speed lol.
In my opinion, the best distance drivers for beginners are slower distance drivers like the Roadrunner or the Sidewinder as most beginners don’t need 11-12 speed as they don’t have the arm speed to get any additional distance.
@@metalisit I’m not sure, unless you are throwing 375+, I don’t necessarily know that going over 9 speeds will help a whole lot. Both discs I recommended are distance drivers as well. I don’t know 🤷♂️ what a beginner is in the context of this video.
@@toddkauk6099 I don't disagree with your logic there. I'm just pointing our that the video stated this is for those graduating up from a 9-speed ability.
@@toddkauk6099For some manufacturers, Speed 9 is still a fairway. And, i can't throw 375+, but i get farther with my 13 Speed than i get with my 9 Speed 😅
I feel things like the Freetail from Mint, Tumbleweed from Lonestar, Construct in Aura plastic from TSA, Innova Mamba and Orbital from mvp are the "best" beginner distance drivers
I would second the Mamba! Unless you are throwing over 400 feet, there is a plastic and weight to hit all lines necessary, besides maybe the super overstable
Ive thrown some of my best shots with a Tumbleweed, crazy tight really far turnovers to rollers so good your friends freak out. Great disc. My Aura Construct (168g) was always pretty darn stable, too stable for a beginner for sure but a really great mold. I lost it and do miss it a little.
I don’t think people give the Mamba enough credit. In the video you have what looks like a G-Star Mamba, not sure of what weight. Throw a heavier new Champ or halo Mamba and it is a completely different atory
The Sapphire was kind of disappointing for me. Definitely almost overstable in Opto with a very dumpy fade, which I hate with a passion, and bordering on finicky in Gold. Seems too nose angle-sensitive.
That's actually a good thing as frustrating as it is. It'll teach you angles. I'd say stick to throwing mids and putters for the most part. Practice throwing with understable putters in your field work and it'll all come together quicker.
It is not an easy disc to throw, but you can do a lot with it. My first throws was like wtf but then after a while, there it was doing the same as PD or CD. :D
Impulse is very underrated for a 9 speed. DD is amazing. Fission Wave should be first although the new run is more overstable and takes to a while to beat in.
.... advice for beginners, by beginners.... maybe a vote from people who by their own definition aren't good at the sport isn't a great source of advice to improve :| Also wait.... the Wave isn't on this list? Bruv. Wave is *the* first distance driver every intermediate player should try out (beginners shouldn't be touching distance drivers at all IMO, or in other words if you know how to actually use one, you're not a beginner). I also personally think handing beginners a Mamba is cursing them with never learning how to actually throw a disc. This happened to me - I was throwing with a horrible golf swing hyzer form and instead of fixing it, my friend said "hey just throw a Mamba" so I spent 6 months thinking flippy discs were the answer to distance while I could have been learning how to actually throw a real disc properly. That said, nowaways I love my mamba for insane tailwinds and super long distance throw rollers. You can also do some weird stuff with Mambas throwing them super high over trees. Also although I guess this is an opinion, 10-speed is still fairway. Sapphire isn't a DD - it just doesn't fly like one or feel like one in my book Fantastic for beginners though.
Luke, I prefer your videos over your partners. I’m not a hater, just stating my preference. I’m an on and off again subscriber. I’ll subscribe for a while then un subscribe because i get bored. I think more Luke would keep me engaged.
The best new distance drivers for beginners is a mid range. Do not get a fast disc. It’s pointless. You’re gonna throw your mid range at full speed similar to a distance driver. You need to be able to match the speed of the disc and that’s not happening w beginners. Period. Also, control. Not happening. Putters and mid ranges for beginners.
I like giving newer players lighter discs, so they still get the same feel with a similar flight. I’ve got a 147g wraith and a 158 insanity that are both super fun to use and have helped me work on my forehand
This. Even lighter Sapphires will (unless you throw 400+) not fly according to their numbers when new. But they do beat in to absolute bombers that still have some finish. While my fission Wave is my farthest flying driver, I more often go to my Sapphire since it's a bit more dependable, especially if there is a little wind.
A friends superflippy driver due to way too beat up is a good hand me down option, will often get a bit different flights than an original understable rim. The mold remembers itself being stable if thrown slower, better for headwinds imo^^ Ohh, and my Sapphire (Opto 164g) flies like my stable 9-10 speeds... white/bricht colors are supposed to be more stable in Opto/Lucid/VIP though. Need to hit some trees ;)
Man, really wish I could find a lighter weight Grace just like 167g or something. The two I have dont really have any turn at all. Had a first run that would turn quite a bit but it seems like they've gotten more stable??
Any time I take a friend out for their first few times I give them a decently beat up DX Leopard. The Discmania Genius works great too. Nothing like watching the look on their faces when they get the disc to turn and do a full flight.
The discmania DD is a weird one.. I'm forehand dominant and I've noticed that it basically has 0 torque resistance. In a tournament I tried a forehand turnover shot, threw it at like an 80 degree hyzer angle forehand, and it ended up flipping all the way over before it hit the ground and rolled 250 feet to the basket. Essentially an inverse forehand roller haha.
I disagree about the Mamba going out the bag for one reason. Rollers. Great disc to get the turnover and once it gets too flippy it's a good beginner roller disc.
Some 9/5/-1/2 discs are more understable than the numbers suggest! The escape from DD is the orange one that was thrown and it’s pretty deceptively understable!
@@SwankyDiscGolf just because the new supreme escape is understable does not mean that "some" are. cd1, tesla, undertaker, savant, dynasty, fx-3 are not. tha basically covers all manufacturers. but it is your channel and you can say what you want....
“Distance driver for beginners” just isn’t a thing. No beginners will be able to throw a distance driver faster or farther than they would a 7 speed or mid.
Yet i was throwing forehands 330 right away, when i started a year ago. First discs i owned were a PD, & a Majesty. So clearly overstable aswell, especially the Majesty, which is very similar to my Champion Boss. Only threw those. Couldn't backhand for shit(still can't), but forehand clicked right from the 1st throw. 🤷 . Had i tried to flick putters or some shit in the beginning, it wouldn't have worked at all. Of course, now i have learned to throw every type of disc. 330 with an overstable 10 speed is acceptable imo. Not massive, but enough to justify it's use.
0:55 For sure, I think he covers this when he says these are suggestions for beginners AFTER having experience w putters, midranges, and fairway drivers
I'm in my third year of playing DG and I'm just now fully accepting this fact. I can punch a 7-speed ALMOST as far as some of my higher-speed discs, but the consistency and accuracy is way more reliable with the 7.
presumably anyone who begins throwing distance drivers would qualify. I came to disc golf with a frisbee background and had no problem throwing distance drivers when I started.
