The Best Old SFF Computers to Turn into Gaming PCs!! 

0:37 that must be painful to look at

You saved me 1 hr of research , thanks

Man, I like this video. I hope you keep growing. I think your editing is spot on.

Times are certainly tough, but don't by any means think your work isn't valuable. Others get more for stupidity. I personally applaud you and good luck in the near future. Thumbs Up.

Thank you!!! Keep up the great work!

Keep going you know your stuff thank you for the information

They can also be killer computer for families too ! For not too expensive, you can buy a computer like this and put a little bit more on other peripherals.

I really hope you get more subs in the next months! You deserve it!

Thanks for this summary. I am actually building a PC for AI experimentation rather than gaming but the need to add a graphics card (GTX 1650) is the same. For AI, I also need to know whether it has an M.2 or spare PCIe slot for a Coral TPU card. Videos like this help because it is surprisingly difficult to figure out from manufacturers specs the basic questions like: will a GTX 1650 fit? Will the maximum bandwith PCIe be available? Is the power supply big enough? Can the card be powered directly from the PCIe slot (as opposed to an extra adapter)? Is cooling sufficient without drilling holes etc? Dell Optiplex are the cheapest in the UK at the moment but apparently have a rather awkward layout for the graphics card so the max bandwith cannot be used. HP are cheaper than Lenovo right now. There are also HP 600 and 6000 series about, but I do not know what the differences are. It would be good to see the graphic card insertion into each of a range of models. Such a video would be popular with AI experimenters as well as gamers!

Just subscribed, good luck!

Love the fact that this channel considers people on a budget ! Keep it up!!

My rig I just finished building is an older model of Dell's Optiplex 790 with a 500w power supply I put in it and a RX 570

awesome video! might end up doing this

Dude I loved this video!! You, DLM Tech Garage and I should do something together. It would be so cool to do something with some other small Tech RU-vidrs like ourselves. Great Job Dude!

Liked, subscribed! Very useful and well documented. Keep up the great work, buddy! Happy New Year!

Greetings I congratulate you on your video, I have a Lenovo m92p I would like to know what you recommend apart from a gtx 1650 low profile which ram would be compatible? And what other things could I add to it to play warzone, apex Legends decently? If you can help me with some links to know which ram is compatible, solid hard disk adapters for this model, do you recommend?

Ahh SSF stands for small form factor. Learned something new today. Thanks Tech Round Up

Well I ended up with the Dell Optiplex 7040 Minitower version, not the SFF version. Just a bit bigger I think but it saves me from having to hunt for those rare low profile GPU in my country. Managed to snag a used RX570, add RAM into 16GB and add 480GB cheap ssd as boot drive and it runs with the i5 6500 really nicely. Total power consumption in heavy load is around 85-90% of the 240W PS capacity, yet so far so good no sign of instability or overheat whatsoever.

I have the HP EliteDesk G1 with an i5 4570 and a GT 1030, I know you said I should go for the GTX 1650 but I just couldn't find one at a good price, and I didn't really like the price range at all, so I went with a GT 1030 I found on Amazon for $100 CAD, the pc is still very good, ranging around at least 75 fps on Fortnite, 144 fps on Valorant, 600 - 850 fps on Minecraft, and 160 fps on cs:go with a 75hz monitor, I don't really think you can play warzone on it, which was the only lowlight of the build, but the pc is already pretty good for my needs, its just all I can afford at this time as a teen, I'll take what I can.

Lol nice editing dude

why didn't you edit the last part of the video? anyway you got my sub. cheers up!

I'm looking for a small cheap computer for writing and taking notes for school what would you suggest? Preferably vintage but I don't mind if it's newer

Very cool. Thanks !!!

I got an HP Elite 8200 SFF with an i7 2600 for 80 USD. I cleaned it, replaced the fans and added an SSD and RAM from my old PC.

For my daughter i built a hp g1 600 with an i5-4570 (?) in it. Added a straight 1050 I got off ebay and dropped in 2x8GB sticks. I got the hp for 95usd shipped, but have to buy screws for the 3.5 and 2.5" drives.

@Tech Round Up, how about turning a HD pavilion p6 2100 series, can i convert it into a gaming rig for cheap

i have a standard size zotac 1050 ti and my pc is a HP ProDesk 600 G1 SFF .. i know the card is to large but if i used a PCI extender would this be ok to run power wise?

Thx for compare but I recently got lenovo m92p sff but it turn out it can support one hdd and one dvd. But I needed to support 2 hdd with dvd or 1hdd with 1sdd both with dvd As this issue was not a problem with my old hp 8300 sff. Later I needed to add gpu as well. How can I add more hdd and ssd without over loading it. Or should I return it and go for hp 8300 sff instead I have 3120 Pro. Plannin to I5 3570, add 4 gb more to make 8gb.

I have HP Elitedesk G2 800 SFF, with existing NVIDIA GT730 DDR3, will DDR4 or DDR5 will work?

bro until that graph could be reached with this HP EliteDesk 800 G1 computer How about what vram, for example, could the 1060 of 6vram have? or higher?

I found a few Lenovo M82 SFF with i5's for $50 each.

Hey, thanks for the video! I have a Lenovo M92P-Tower, can I put the GTX 1650 LP? Because I read that the BIOS couldn't read the 1650 LP and the limit to the 1050 - 1080 ti so i don't know if there's a solution and I hope that you can help me with this doubt, thanks!

The graphics card in my hp elitedesk does the job just fine for emulation using Batocera. Even plays Wii games very well! I think if you're looking to game online then yeah, get a graphics card, but if you're using it for emulation like I am, just use what it comes with. Saves some time and money. :)

Awesome vid! Just picked up a Dell Optiplex 3040 SFF i5-6500 16GB RAM on FB Marketplace. Looking for a Low Profile GTX 1650! perfect 1080P gaming rig.

What about the HP Elite 8200 i5 3.2Ghz? Is it as good as the 8300?

I imported an pretty beat up NEC Mate PC from Japan on Buyee for a bargain, including shipping for around ~400 reais, the equivallent to only ~74 dollars (remember this is worldwide shipping) an i3 4130 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz, 240w 80+ power supply on a generic H81 Lenovo motherboard with an empty PCIe slot that I'm thinking on getting a GT 1030, since the 1050/Ti, and the 1650 are too expensive in my currency here in Brazil, and maybe in the future upgrade to 2x4GB of Ram (comes with 2x2GB unfortunately) I need it to study and work, gaming is just a bonus...

Nice ending,.lulz Thanks for the info

Can u have a vid with actually installing it to them....like does it fit into the m92p

Thank you Sir, you just saved me $100 and I'm able to get a better machine.

um quick question doesn't the board only power 75w total ??? on the 8300

1650 low profile models run very hot.. I have Gigabyte D6 1650 low profile card installed in 8300 SFF & it reaches 90 degree very quickly.. Nothing wrong with its thermal paste as it cools down very quickly once you stop gaming. So the problem lies with card itself, more precisely with Nvidia boosting tech or by Gigabyte algorithm.. It boosts automatically upto 1950 very easily & stays there till its starts throttling. Plus it consumes full 75 watts of power from the pcie socket.. I tried even undervolting it, but that also can delay the temperature rise only till a point. Adjustment in fan curve etc is also not much helpful.. Anyone has any better solution??

800 G1 is a nice compact beast

Can you make a vid of how to install a graphic card for the i7 elite 8300

could i put an rx 550 on the HP 8300

Totally confused. Am looking at your superb vid of this upgrade. BUT, don't GT 1650 GPU cards have to have extra power connectors ? 6 pin / 8 pin ? , i did'nt see you connect this. I know nothing about GPU's so maybe i am comletely wrong here, but on all other vid re GT 1650 cards you always see the extra power connector that is usually stated as very important as the PCIe bus can't supply all the power for these cards. Again, GREAT vid, but TOTALLY confused. Keep up the good work.

I got an HP 8200 SFF for free, and upgraded the fans to Noctua fans, both for the cpu and PSU, also added 16 gb of ram, installed an i7-2600 and a gtx 1650 from gygabite and I was reaching over 60 fps at 1080 with med-max settings on Apex legends and halo infinite, a total monster for a 12 year old PC

What if mine doesn't have the removable slots for pci on outside?

Best old one is HP Z240 SFF and it supports i7 7th gen, so yeah with a i7 7700 it would rock and Gigabyte 1650 gtx 6D with Gddr6

So sorry if this is a dumb question but could I buy one of these and then rip out the motherboard. And put a new third party one in there?

Bro another question if u don't mind. My old hp 8300 sff mobo went dead. That why I got lenovo m92p sff. My hdd 3.5 1tb is Windows 10 64 bit oem of hp 8300 and my works in D drive. So do I need to install Windows 10 using the Windows 7 key on the box? As I did for hp 8300 or will it work without any issue. I used oem key to upgrade my Windows using my email account

how about the HP prodesk 400 g5,? The i5 8th gen procie with 250w PSU variant. EDIT: I just saw HP prodesk 400 G5 MT for 314 USD only

Jeez ur underrated

I just did a complete transplant with a SFF 800 G1 into a midtower PC case. Let me know if you have any questions, if youre not afraid of building your own PC then im here to help, I have a full sized ROG 1060 in this PC with excellent results (Witcher 3 on Ultra, etc.).

this was alot helpful because im fifteen and trying to gett a gaming pc before my family moves and i think the hp elite 8300 is gonna be my rig until i upgrade

I have a HP 8200 Elite core i5 runing WIndows XP for retro old gaming

i have a hp pro 3130 or 3120 sff (idk what one) and i would like to install 8gb ram (ddr3) an intel xeon x5650 with a 1650 super low profile. would i be able to use the original power supply (220w)?

I managed to scoop up 2 hp pro desk 600g1’s with intel i7 from work they were throwing them in the trash! Nothing wrong with them at all. Idiots.

I recently got an HP ProDesk 600 G2 $130 shipped. I5 6600 and 8GB DDR4. It's a mid tower so you can fit full size graphics cards. I did have to splice in pcie power wires for the GTX 970 I put in it. It's only got a 285W PSU, but it's been fine. 😋 All in with the 970 and another 8GB sick of ram it's less than $300.

Should I stay away from i5?

Hello I want to tell you I have a motherboard H61m-s1 rev 2.1 with i7 3770 8 gb ram and I want to ask you what graphics could be useful for me, since I tried an Rx550 and it did not recognize me, although the pc started normal, I hope you help me Thank you very much

I've got the hp 8200sff with an i5 2400, 16gb DDR3 ram, Gtx 1660 low profile ddr6. I get over 160fps on Fortnite low settings, solid 60 on ultra all at 1080p. I've got a cheap i5 3470 coming. I'm sure it won't make a big difference but it runs cooler and I like having extra parts just in case

i have a hp elite 8300 mid tower with a gtx 660 and it plays games at around 100 fps

Just the video was looking for. Having bad luck buying the mobos only on Ebay. All withfailure to post. Or 4 beeps no display.

If i buy this pc can i connect the adapter atx 24 pin to 12 change the psu to 600w can i than have a normal gpu not a low profile???

Windows 11 news kinda makes this moot, except for short term stop gaps.

Bro, out of these three which one is in the Top, Middle and Last for regular and for gaming. Out of these three which one is better for cooling and gpu. I though that only value select rams can work not these high brand rams. I hope you Can guide me how to add more hdd, ssd in lenovo m92p as it is easy in others. Otherwise I have to return it.

Looking to just add hyperspin, emulators and NOT new games. Just maybe up until GameCube!?

can a Dell optiplex 790 compete?

This is much harder outside the US, even in neighboring countries like Canada or Mexico.

What kind of wireless card would you add to this build?

Do any of these 3 builds support 16 gig ram?

daaamn. This is juts what I needed. I have a 800 g1 i bought some days ago but it comes with an intel pentium 4th gen, i think i will have to change that processor and buy a more powerful one. I also need to buy more ram and a ssd. what really bums me out is the price of graphic cards, they are so expensive right now. I will have to buy mine in another country.

3:43 1650 super doesn't come in low profile variants? Right?

Just got 3 Dell Optiplex 990 pc's from work. They were going to throw them away. Only i5's but much better than the XP pc I've been using. I upgraded one to its max 16gb ram, upgraded its OS from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and added a 2TB Sansung hard disk . Dell tech support told me these won't work with Windows 10, but they do work just fine. I wanted to add a GTX 1650 low profile card but they are no longer available new from MSI or Gigabyte but still listed on their web sites for about $200. And they are available used on eBay for about $400 on up and Walmart still has 4 new MSI 1650's in stock for a bit over $800.00 each! I don't know if this is a temporary shortage because of Covid or if these companies are getting out of the low profile video card business. The video tech support person I spoke with was also not sure. And I don't know enough about video cards to know if there are any other recommended brands or companies still selling them. Please help with any advice or recommendations you have. Thank you.

I dont know how you found that gtx 1650 so cheap! Amazon pricing right now $350

I bought a hp elite 8200 for $25 it’s great

I'm going to buy a 800 G1, that already have 16GB Ram, however due to the limited 240W, do you think it will be okay to add a Samsung 860 Evo 1TB and a MSI GTX 1050Ti Low profile? :) I already have a 1050Ti in another computer so i would just need to buy the SSD (and also the computer) :P Ohhh and subscribed! :D

7:20 quite false in this case, while the HP ones are usually propietary (That's why I would rather avoid HP if you have more choices), the Lenovo ones use a "TFX PSU" which companies like Seasonic and BeQuiet! made some, they are even rated at 80+ Gold, which is nice, I don't know about Dell or some other companies, but in this case, PSU is totally replacable with non propietary stuff!

Is the prodesk and desk elite the same thing

Could I upgrade the cpu past intel 4th gen while using the same case, psu, and other components?

I have a hp compaq 8300 elite is it possible to but a rx 570 in it

deja vu! haha

De Ja Vu. Ground Hog Day?

for that price i would get a hp z420 that is the same price or lower

Isn't the 8300 sff pci-e x16 rated for only 35w?

whish one is better ???

what is a better cpu a i5 3470 or i7 2600

So I just recently watched your video and bought the gpu but my pc gets a black screen and it shows the gpu on the pc but it's not working with the pc only shows a black screen for the second monitor, when I bootuo halo it's only using the Intel graphics card instead of the gtx any ideas on what could it be ?

i was gonna subscribe but after seeing another youtuber doing that annoying subscription ratio I dont realy feel like it

Will the PSU support for 1650 or 1560 because they need more Power

What if I just use the pc to just for streamlabs and I stream with elgato

I have the HP elitedesk 800 g1, and it is very good, but it should NOT cost you much more than $175 (Canadian Dollars) I got mine for $160, almost brand new

Does a Ryzen 5 3600G work with any of these PCs?

please a trust one in ebay to buy hp 800g1??

ok people for sff desktop get low profile only and for mt size you can get both theres your answer

So I recently got a HP Elitedesk 800 G1 with an i7. it has a small SSD for the operating system and a hard drive for everything else. You're saying if i install that graphics card, I should be able to run games smoothly? I don't need to buy anything for extra cooling or anything like that? I want this to be a budget PC, so I'm not to invest too much into this. And I don't expect to have off the charts performance or anything.

I found a HP Prodesk for 50 bucks on eBay

2ND EDIT: I tested a GTX 1050 TI LP on my 6300 and it seems to be drawing almost 70 watts from the motherboard (proof: imgur.com/a/WvuoLmn ) You didn't mention that SFF versions of HP (and maybe other vendors too) SFF's PCI-E X16 slot is limited to 25 Watts only. EDIT: It's actually 35W instead of 25W for the HP Elite 8300 SFF.

doaes it freeze

I got mine (non-sff 8300 with i7-3770) for 73 euros incl. shipping from a latvian online store, just so ebay could eat their own nutella