This great swing video is also a lesson in "feel" versus "real". After years of mixed results playing as a Hardy 2 planer with level shoulder turn, I tried this tilted turn one evening. First couple of times it "felt" as if right shoulder was pointing to the sky. However, after videoing a few swings with this tilted turn, I found that what felt like pointing to the sky was really my shoulders at a perfect 90 degree angle to my spine tilt. My power and consistency have both improved a lot thanks to this video. Thanks Eric.
Left shoulder down then right shoulder down has pretty much given me everything else I've been struggling with for free. Your last few videos have me really excited to get on my SIM, if only Pickleball wasn't taking up so much of my time.
I knew this was my problem after smashing my driver against the low partition at the range, on my backswing. Criminally under addressed topic in golf that should have way more views than the pursuit of lag. Great explanation guys!
Jess has been preaching this for a long time, and everyone thought it was stack and tilt. It’s not it’s the way a person should swing, so now other instructors are realizing how important this is in a persons swing , and talking about it. My question Jess, and I confess I have sent you my swing along time ago and you helped me a lot with your feedback,but my question is I think standing up out of posture in the takeaway is the real reason a person can’t side bend not the lead arm externally rotating improperly . In your opinion, what causes a person to standup and get out of posture in takeaway? Cause if you do, and I’m fighting this now with driver, your automatically gonna have a flat shoulder rotation.
Hey Wen Ill answer in case Jess doesn't see. Its a bit of a chicken or the egg If you turn your shoulders flat your arm will have more internal rotation/flat shaft If you have more internal arm rotation and flat shaft you COULD still have the tilt so I would say the TILT (side bend) is the engine and the arm rotation follows ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dAq_cokO4TI.html
Hi Eric, Hello from the U.K. Just come across your videos and watched this and a few of your others. As a beginner, I really appreciate your tips and drills. Love the guests that you have on and the extra insight from that interaction... also love your no B.S. approach from the early videos all the way through to today. One thing I like to do is watch the first video posted, and the best have a really great contribution from the beginning - which you surely do! Like! & Subscribed with all notifications so I don't miss a thing! Thank you! 👍👍👍
AWESOME!!! 3 observations. 1. The stick shows how not to over rotate, stopping point, guilty here 2. You should have shown how to do it off mats by putting the rod in the basket as I’m sure majority are hitting off those 3. Eric - each time you are with Jess you hit your best shots.
This was/is a tenet of Jim Hardy's one plane swing in "The Plane Truth for Golfers" written in about 2005!! He advocated pointing your shoulders (I think) no less than 36 inches beyond the ball on the downswing, ideally only 18 inches beyond the ball.
Hi Eric and Jess- One small point you skip by but do mention as if it is not that important. To me it was a great revelation and changed my perspective enormously on how to execute the back swing. You correctly point out that if you externally rotate the lead arm in the back swing you will swing on too flat a plane. Excellent point but even a better point is to ensure you rotate the lead arm internally in the backswing to ensure you get that lead shoulder under your chin that also provides you with the right amount of shoulder tilt that is more vertical and not too flat..
Glad you enjoyed this one, Russell! Here are a couple videos you might like to check out on the trail shoulder: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5wQrp8jXlb4.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8efZMUpSu6U.html Thanks for watching the channel!
Almost as great as your guys' "missing link" tilt vid, which is a classic. I loved where he pointed out that it's not just on the backswing--wish there was more elaboration on that, but I'll check old vid. It took until the 13th hole yesterday to I realize I wasn't doing it (i.e., left ear to the ground for left hand golfers). Tilting makes a huge difference in extension of the arms on both parts of the swing. If you ever do a 3rd vid, please explain how getting out of sequence in backswing (e.g., not moving hands then arms then shoulders) can negatively impact the ability to tilt.
When people talk about a “modern” golf swing (more tilt, one plane swing, body release, swinging the club around the body etc) I feel like there are some components that are similar to the stack and tilt swing with the exception of keep the weight forward vs transferring weight back and forward.
Eric & Jess, would you believe I had for 3 separate hour long lessons with a legit coach and maybe 2000 range balls tried to make this change. But what you have left out and so did the coach I went to, is the new match up and feels needed in the downswing since I'm in a totally new position. So whatever method I had employed with my old backswing to get back to the ball doesnt work. I was getting pulls and pull hooks with the new backswing. No surprise I gave up on the change. Whatever you change has result in playable ballflight. So hope you take this to heart, whatever new move or correction you teach needs to include the new match ups needed for the entire swing and on course ball flight.
Yeah I hear ya! The reality is that is true for YOU and I 100% am with ya. I've been coaching for 15 years now and have seen A LOT of people who DO NOT need to change their downswing.....their CURRENT downswing would work with a BETTER backswing (with more tilt) Again I hear your perspective....but while its true for you. Its not for everyone. All the best
I would say that was the vast majority, yes. I hear ya....but based on my current understanding of how people learn......and the motor learning science available.....I would say no. That would be TOO MUCH to do at one time.
Hey Sean this one should be perfect for downswing part (and backswing) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-F8FKcHA6sd0.html&pp=ygUpRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIEdvbGYgY2hhbmdlZCBldmVyeXRoaW5nIG9uZSA%3D
Hey Eugene! They would be a little different in terms of the AMOUNT, but the same general concept applies to all clubs. If you drew a line through your spine/back line at setup, you want to tilt your shoulders down about 90° to that initial spine angle line. This allows the golfer to keep their head centered. 90° to the back line is a good checkpoint throughout the bag. Replace the amount of forward bend at setup with tilt in the backswing. So if you are 30° bent over at setup, tilt your shoulders 30°ish. Since you are bent over more or less with different clubs, that will change that. So with a wedge where you are more bent over at setup, there is more tilt automatically in the backswing. You are less bent over with the driver, so 90° to that line will be less tilted over in the backswing. Hope this helps!
Sorry for any confusion, Tony! If you drew a line through your spine/back line at setup, you want to tilt your shoulders down about 90° to that initial spine angle line. This allows the golfer to keep their head centered. 90° to the back line is a good checkpoint throughout the bag. Replace the amount of forward bend (the amount that you are tilted over towards the golf ball) at setup with side tilt in the backswing. So if you are 30° bent over towards the ball at setup, tilt your shoulders 30°ish. Since you are bent over more or less with different clubs, that will change that. So with a wedge where you are more bent over at setup, there is more tilt automatically in the backswing. You are less bent over with the driver, so 90° to that line will be less tilted over in the backswing. This video talks through more details on this topic and I think it may help clarify it for you: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-itMUrdHkHm4.html Hope this is helpful!
Sidebend and tilt so important. For me it stop me from getting high hands. I know a lot of amateur don’t have enough sidebend or tilt will cause early extension. They don’t like tilt because they are afraid of chucking and thinks that the right arm is straight at impact. In fact the right arm should be bend at impact, if you don’t tilt enough you can’t hit the ball.
Hey there! You may enjoy checking out the video below for some helpful tips on swinging over the top: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qOQebVaJmOg.html Thanks for watching the channel!
Great vid gents! I've been working on this with my coach for weeks and I think this vid just reinforces what we've been working on. It solves the root cause of many golf issues.. Love the thoroughness of the video too. With this shoulder angle you can't really over swing either and you get good wrist hinge also.
