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The BEST Way TO Perform a Parasitic Draw Test 

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Parasite current draw tests can be a nightmare. When a car has battery drain proper testing is vital to finding the problem. This is the best way I have found to perform a Current Draw Test!
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@jc1796
@jc1796 4 года назад
This guy was clean shaven when he started looking for the draw.
@vdubskiee5356
@vdubskiee5356 4 года назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@Okie-Tom
@Okie-Tom 4 года назад
J C , oh now! He is just trying to help you! Lol!
@jaspernemesio3816
@jaspernemesio3816 4 года назад
Then his video is misleading. He said it can only take you 5 mins lol.
@dntlss
@dntlss 4 года назад
Ha ha ha ha,thats no shit,you could become a grandfather looking for these things sometimes.
@TheMezzy712
@TheMezzy712 4 года назад
Your comment was worth the 10 mins I wasted here. Cheers.
@steveacker31
@steveacker31 2 года назад
I chased a parasitic draw on my 2010 Ram for months. I even took it to a dealer and a local shop after I failed to find the culprit. They couldn't pinpoint it either. I checked everything...or so I thought. Just by dumb luck, I dropped something in the driveway at night and it rolled under my truck. I glanced up and saw a faint light in the engine bay. Turns out that the hood latch (and the hood light actuator/switch) was slightly askew. The hood would latch, but since the latch was out of position, the light switch never disengaged. Makes sense that this light would never show a draw as I would disconnect the hood light at the bulb connector since I had the hood open testing for current draw. Crazy stuff, but I learned a lot from videos like this one. Hopefully, my story helps someone out. Thanks!
@stallion78
@stallion78 2 года назад
Good share. I have a Lexus gx470 and still has current draw. I did the Eric the car guy method and put the meter in series with the negative cable and pulled all the fuses and nothing changed. So I’m a bit lost. I’ll try humble mechanics method soon
@killerbski9412
@killerbski9412 2 года назад
@@stallion78 if you have a draw with all the fuses pulled then I would next disconnect your starter main Cable and alternator main cable. I’ve had both of those cause draws on higher mileage cars. They corrode internally causing a faint connection to ground. Also people forget that a dirty battery case can cause a very small draw. Voltage can travel all the way across a battery top from post to post. It’s rare but is possible
@jeffclark5024
@jeffclark5024 2 года назад
Some of the new fuses now don’t have the test spots on the back because engineers decided that was too handy and they pride themselves in making things more difficult for us mechanics. Great video man
@xeronicus
@xeronicus 2 года назад
Never blame engineers....always blame bean counters
@ezwa9979
@ezwa9979 2 года назад
their ideal aim is to make things impossible for mechanics & diyrs, but the right to work attorneys need to pass a law that requires all favtories & dealers doing this to admit before sale, that the buyer now has no choice but to go to the corrupt, triple priced dealers every time- the headline of this warning should be, WARNING: we now own your S. 👋😒
@bt4291
@bt4291 2 года назад
I have seen test points extremely corroded esp living near beaches, I wonder if sealed fuses just make better sense. Only seen a couple, but some have corroded into fuse plastic. Never caused me issues but something to wonder about for small fuses especially
@twobeagles1365
@twobeagles1365 2 года назад
Some aren't really engineers, just placed candidates with a title and degree. !!
@mikeheintz6861
@mikeheintz6861 2 года назад
I'd just get new fuses. You can get enough fuses to do your whole car at the junkyard for $2
@bikerdave19148
@bikerdave19148 2 года назад
I've been a master tech for 25 years and never once did I think about physically latching the doors etc. And this is a great method for finding gremlins. I'm glad I found this channel, as unusual even as good as I am in still learning! Awesome video
@HumbleMechanic
@HumbleMechanic 2 года назад
Right on!!!
@rjbradlow
@rjbradlow 2 года назад
Yeah ok, and then there's most vehicles whose switches are NOT in the latch. Furthermore if you've got a drop across the fuse, there's a problem with that fuse. Sleeping vehicles should not be drawing unless you've got a module that's not going to sleep either because it's bad or somebody wired in (added) something wrong which is what I see all too frequently. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6xFo_oHFF48.html
@bikerdave19148
@bikerdave19148 2 года назад
@@rjbradlow pretty sure I didn't need the lecture. And testing for voltage drop is easy. I'm not sure what you've been working on but pretty much everything made in the last ten years has the switch in the latch. Wondering why you're replying this way to my comment, seems to me you either have a problem with the video, which I didn't make, or me personally which makes you a bit of a child
@dianefitzgeraldbey2856
@dianefitzgeraldbey2856 2 года назад
What are grimlin, oh god 😳
@mikekopisz1227
@mikekopisz1227 2 года назад
Yup...latching the doors will help with de energizing any accessory relays,which can backfeed a circuit, giving you false positive readings..
@clintlambert689
@clintlambert689 4 года назад
I’ve used this method with success several times. I’ve recently learned an extra hint to go along with this test. Prior to testing each fuse(especially with vehicles with a large amount of fuses), use a thermal image camera to look at the fuses. The one with the draw will show up warmer than the rest. Helps pinpoint the circuit quickly.
@ironduke6100
@ironduke6100 4 года назад
@You Wish I don't think so
@lithium270
@lithium270 4 года назад
Yes. The Caterpillar brand phones have FLIR cameras integrated with several models.
@transfixleo
@transfixleo 4 года назад
Valid tip but most don't have one. However, many have an infrared temp gun. Not as quick and easy but it too can point you in the right direction quicker.
@tackleberry933
@tackleberry933 4 года назад
Lmao I see new thermal scope in my future and tax write off.
@partyshorts
@partyshorts 4 года назад
@You Wish yes
@freddydee270
@freddydee270 3 года назад
I've been a tech for over 25 years. I thought I was pretty good at electrical diagnostics. This video set me straight. What a great technique. Thanks for these videos. I wish these were around in the 90's.
@HumbleMechanic
@HumbleMechanic 3 года назад
Always keep learning man. As you know it’s how we stay on too
@kevindixon1202
@kevindixon1202 3 года назад
@@HumbleMechanic About to buy an 06 without radio. Owner says radio is killing battery. Great video! Does replacing with aftermarket radio fix the battery drain issue?
@dwvw
@dwvw 11 месяцев назад
I am a 12v technician at a car audio shop. The number of dealership techs that don't know how to do a proper current draw test is mind boggling. I get a couple cars a month that are misdiagnosed because of poor electrical troubleshooting. If every tech watched this video the world would be a better place. And if you do this for a living Blue Point has a tool called the Amp Hound which does the fuse type current drop for you so it speeds up the job and makes you more efficient.
@cincinnatiman1153
@cincinnatiman1153 8 месяцев назад
get this i have 2020 nissian it will not turn on ault untill u drive car 8 miles. it also will trun off the ault doing driveing, as you well know batterys was not made to be ran all systems on all the time. now nissian tells me this car takes over hr go sleep and it will turn back on doing self checks. so what happen it distroyed oem battery and new battery i put in to it this car and battery are out speck, now we go to glass mat battery but we have another probem, these batterys requres charge voltage of 13.5 car can put out as much as 15 volts. now i being told the battery is sole reason for emmision control probem. well what was never documented they reprogram the auilt keep in mind at start up ault is off. checking it, it is now on. charge settings was change and never documneted so all others might have this probem will never know of it, and to note the battery they wanted to install is 3ed party not oem not a oem battery, as stated a oem battery is not able to stay charge long enouf so battery will fail. note year of car 2019 they had recall guss what same probem they have smart charge system but battery not made to do what it being ask to do, only fix is turn off this system. now can a low battery give emmision vacume leak error, if was any other kind error maybe this to detail in that two have nothing in common system has vacume or not .also motor coolet sencor was at -40 deg bad battery do to how was being charge ? throw none of this was documented, load test on battery not documented scan was not copy to files. so how do you fix a probem unless u keep detail recoreds on it, well that one thing they dont want do, as all cars up to 2023 will have same probems and only fix is remove ault from smart chargeing system
@andrewhaney8989
@andrewhaney8989 2 года назад
One small correction to note. 1006 in speaking of amps is 1.006A not .1A, simple mistake but for students it could be detrimental when they are struggling to understand 1000mV is 1V ect. Good video, glad to see other putting things out like this to help promote the industry.
@stever.9925
@stever.9925 2 года назад
Absolutely! ..."mil", meaning Thousand. ; "milli", meaning Thousandth. 1000 One Thousandths equals One(1); 1000 milliamps equals One(1) Ampere.
@getonthecrossanddontlookba5004
@getonthecrossanddontlookba5004 2 года назад
Repent to Jesus Christ “In peace I will lie down and sleep, for you alone, Lord, make me dwell in safety.” ‭‭Psalms‬ ‭4:8‬ ‭NIV‬‬
@Nelson4207
@Nelson4207 Год назад
@@getonthecrossanddontlookba5004 Nah...just live and get luvs
@Mr_PNW
@Mr_PNW Год назад
@@getonthecrossanddontlookba5004 You are using the wrong scripture for your audience. These people are dealing with electrical issues. Try, John 8:12 “Then Jesus spoke again to them, saying: “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will by no means walk in darkness, but will possess the light of life.’
@Mr_PNW
@Mr_PNW Год назад
@@Mark-gg6iy Did you even read the replies? I was simply having fun in response to another person’s post. You have been reported.
@wouterkellerman4458
@wouterkellerman4458 Месяц назад
42 years as a mech and never knew this. Thank you!
@mikewest712
@mikewest712 5 лет назад
When I worked as a diesel mechanic it was always aftermarket shit. Even high end GPS trackers that were tamperproof. Always start with aftermarket add ons.
@darrylplayer
@darrylplayer 3 года назад
lol, i haven't started to trace my problem yet, but i know it is probably the cheap aftermarket radio
@Viper81766
@Viper81766 6 лет назад
I feel we are blessed to have you and several others on RU-vid sharing your knowledge with us . Those who do not wish to learn and those jealous of your knowledge and capabilities will always try to discourage others . I am 51 and wish training videos like yours were available when I was in my teens . Truly truly helpful . Thanks for all your work .
@dianefitzgeraldbey2856
@dianefitzgeraldbey2856 2 года назад
Where can you get a thermo product and what type to have. And thank you I was thinking about changing all the fuses 🤷🏾‍♀️
@getonthecrossanddontlookba5004
@getonthecrossanddontlookba5004 2 года назад
Repent to Jesus Christ “In peace I will lie down and sleep, for you alone, Lord, make me dwell in safety.” ‭‭Psalms‬ ‭4:8‬ ‭NIV‬‬ h
@Viper81766
@Viper81766 2 года назад
@@getonthecrossanddontlookba5004 Amen
@mkfourgli1
@mkfourgli1 2 года назад
Don't watch he doesn't know what he's talking about. I know him personally and he's a fraud
@TeresaBuratowski-ls5rq
@TeresaBuratowski-ls5rq 8 месяцев назад
Where do I find the link to the tables in this video 8:10
@ronanrogers4127
@ronanrogers4127 5 лет назад
For new viewers, just an observation that 1006 milliamps is just over 1 amp, not 0.1 amp as was said at 7:06. Humble Mechanic has acknowledged that he mis spoke in old comments below.
@SumoLife
@SumoLife 4 года назад
Thank you. I was so confused.
@realSamAndrew
@realSamAndrew 4 года назад
I noticed that too. I'm glad to see a confirmation in the comments. 1 amp is not a small draw!
@ludicrousspeed9711
@ludicrousspeed9711 4 года назад
@@realSamAndrew But the mentioned discrepancy was .006, The remainder of the equations faulty fraction representation. And if this is the only fault in the presentation, of which the methodology is not just out of box, it ate it, Dude is batting 999.9? Divergent thinking is the undercurrent of innovation topping it off with someone who will actually show it to anyone/everyone? RARE!. This is better in so many ways and probably some I am not seeing . Props to ya and thank you HumbleMechanic
@realSamAndrew
@realSamAndrew 4 года назад
Ludicrous speed, I agree with you but you missed the point of my comment. I am not even concerned with the roundup which didn't strike me as an error. It was a typo which turned out to change the scale. It made a fairly insignificant amount into a huge serious amount. It also would lead the viewer to think that he was doing it wrong if he got a different answer. The rest of your comment is spot on the method is fantastic and the presentation was fantastic. Accuracy was the only small item and by correcting it it makes the video much better not worse. I am grateful for all sincere helpful comments and mine was meant to be that as well . I Thank the other commenters for pointing this out and also everyone who adds other helpful information
@ludicrousspeed9711
@ludicrousspeed9711 4 года назад
@@realSamAndrew I didn't even see it that way. It felt like just another comment section "stab you in the back to boost my ego" if you follow. I see it so much in videos where the maker is helping everyone and people say the most asinine shit and sometimes I feel compelled to say something only because it seems like the right thing. WOW the world would be so much better if we could all chill the hell out and simply be civil with each other,most of the crap is just misunderstanding anyway. THIS TIME I'm glad it was my mistake! Unfortunately most of the time I'm not mistaken. Nice bumping into you!
@b_gumm
@b_gumm 2 года назад
Electrical Engineer here; didnt realize that fuses has a large enough resistance to them to detect a significant enough voltage drop to calc amperage off of. Interesting technique. Thanks.
@burritos1000
@burritos1000 Год назад
They're meant to melt at certain current. So it would have to be resistive to cause heat, thus generating voltage across it prior to meltdown. Even copper traces on PCB's have significant enough voltage drops, thus we utilize Kelvin connections. 😉
@ih560na
@ih560na 5 лет назад
Had a draw on a skid steer. Not as much out there for help with equipment as there is for automotive. A fuse panel is a fuse panel so I administered your test and used in line amp draw method. Ended up being a bad starter. Thank you for taking the time to share the knowledge
@gregr1672
@gregr1672 2 года назад
Stewart W - was the starter drawing current when it was just sitting unused ? I know the old cars voltage regulators would do that at times. Was it a bad solenoid \ relay staying partly closed drawing current?
@klyddmeisters
@klyddmeisters 4 года назад
Its very important to check fuses before start metering. If a fuse is blown you might have 12v on one side and ground on the other (through a windshieldmotor or windowheater etc) and your multimeter might get damaged when measuring up to 300mV. Set meter to 20v dc atleast and do this test before switching over to 300mV.
@Napoleon_Blownapart
@Napoleon_Blownapart Год назад
I've done that mistake several times. My cheapo multimeter just says it's out of range. Nothing happens to it
@dubmob151
@dubmob151 5 месяцев назад
Maybe there's still someone out there using analog meters though- those will take issue with 12V into the 200mV range 😉
@dannydee9919
@dannydee9919 8 месяцев назад
I've been a master tech DIYer , weekend warrior, shade tree mechanic , jack of all trades master of none, under sensai mr Miyagi, for the past 30 years never ever seen such a great great video'. Thanks!
@nicksrandomviews1296
@nicksrandomviews1296 2 года назад
Found your channel through engineering explained and couldn't be happier I did. I love learning as much as possible about cars since I do all of my own maintenance as well as repairs when I feel confident enough in doing so. Looking forward to watching as many of your videos as I can thanks for what you do for us.
@scottellis5028
@scottellis5028 Год назад
Best parasitic draw video out there. One note: good test leads are not cheap. If your multimeter does not read zero ohms, Fluke says that is just increasing resistance as the meter electrical contacts, and the lead connections get dirty or corroded over time. If cleaning with contact cleaner, or isopropyl alcohol doesn't work, you can use the "relative" button on the meter to adjust for the increasing resistance. Set to ohms, touch the leads together, push the "relative/rel" button, and the display will read zero. Fluke says you only need to throw the leads away when the wires become exposed, or broken.
@dneedham8302
@dneedham8302 Год назад
Thank you so much for this video. My daughter's '06 Beetle convertible developed a parasitic power drain over the past month or so. Following your procedure I narrowed the power draw down to fuse 38. Driver and/or Passenger Door Control Unit. After sitting for 2 hours, fuse 38 was pulling about .8 amps. We had an issue with the driver side door about two months ago where the window wouldn't drop sometimes when opening, and then it wouldn't go back up. Dealership diagnosed it has being out of adjustment. It has been performing normally since then. Before locking the door mechanisms for the diagnostic procedure, I decided to remove the driver side door panel so I could have access to the window motor connector. After two hours of waiting, I verified there was still an approximate .8 amp draw from fuse 38. I unplugged the window motor and the draw went to 0. I plugged it back in and it went back to .8 amps. I may be mistaken, but I think I smelled a slight burnt smell from the window motor control unit when I unplugged it. I think this is the culprit. I am going to order a new motor tomorrow morning and see if this sorts it out. Thanks again!
@DeepakKumar-lv4te
@DeepakKumar-lv4te 10 месяцев назад
did it work out ? 800mA is a high draw, and sometimes the plugs on those regulators suffer from high current melting them a bit, so you can see where it's burnt and the plug may need replacing too.
@dneedham8302
@dneedham8302 10 месяцев назад
@@DeepakKumar-lv4te yes, we replaced the window motor which has the control module built into it. The current draw stopped, and no more issues with battery drain.
@m4cdemos
@m4cdemos 4 месяца назад
This guy is easy to watch and always adds little touches of experience that simply following an instruction manual doesn't give you. Always good to see a Humble Mechanic video appear in my Google search results...
@suedoenim216
@suedoenim216 5 лет назад
Car newbie here. I was super excited to try what you talked about. I had to do several adjustments and it took me quite awhile to understand everything, but I found out I had such a huge draw by my burglar alarm I had to adjust my meter up to volts from millivolts to get reading. I sure hope you have a video about this now. Thanks, a very informative video.
@TheUweRoss
@TheUweRoss 7 лет назад
I've tried to explain this technique in words to people on a number of occasions, but they generally do not get it. Thanks for the excellent video.
@danielskura4005
@danielskura4005 5 лет назад
great idea and great way to do a parasitic draw test. However, i will suggest(after doing all preliminary work you did with latching doors and hood) use of a clamp-on probe on negative side of battery with arrow facing away from battery and if you read any Amps then you have a parasitic draw. then you do same in positive cables and when find which positive cable has the draw then trace it. if it goes to front distribution box then you do voltage drops on fuses as you did and go with the chart(great tool by the way). if positive cable goes to rear distribution you do voltage drop there and no need to waste time doing front or side or whenever the distribution can be. Modern cars have 5-6-7 or 8 boxes with fuses so will be a great idea to focuse on the power wires that supplies those boxes. when you find the draw on the fuse through volt.drop then you need a wiring diagram to see what that fuse powers because can be 3-4-5 different components. after you find diagram start unplugging one by one the components and when you do so on the bad one you hit the lottery and and your fuse will change reading to 0V.
@steadyeddie7453
@steadyeddie7453 Год назад
Good post. In the electrical world we called it divide and conquer. Keep breaking the entire system down to isolate the area. Then once in the right area ( fuse box #XX) do individual testing until you find the draw. Then Bobs your uncle.
@MojoPup
@MojoPup 11 месяцев назад
Oh my lord! Great Video! Didn't even think about 'putting the car to sleep', Thanks Charles! My wife's 2007 Toyota Corolla is suddenly draining the battery if not driven every day or two. Replaced the battery, did the 'disconnect the battery cable' parasitic draw test and found only about a 30mA draw. Charging system 13.4-14.2VDC, no idiot lights, however I believe it's the OEM alternator (only about 78K miles)...so still not ruling the alternator or regulator out. But never thought about latching the doors and putting it to sleep...outstanding advice.
@gjmarsh8787
@gjmarsh8787 4 года назад
Mr. HM, you are excellent at presenting and maintaining your audience. I love learning and your videos are just that: excellent learning tools. Cheers!
@TheHDPerspective
@TheHDPerspective 7 лет назад
Learned something new today. Used voltage drops many times before for troubleshooting but never thought of using it to find a parasitic draw. Great video!
@gawebm
@gawebm 5 лет назад
Thank you so much for this. I have been trying to figure out how to do a parasitic draw on my homebuilt aircraft and none of the aviation sites were any help. I've been looking for exactly this info for weeks. Seems so easy once someone explains it to you. I appreciate you taking the time to post this.
@garytarpley3771
@garytarpley3771 2 года назад
Many thanks for the phrase easy to see when explained/ true even for experienced/ informed person. I have been an electronics technician since 1972.
@TheJustinM
@TheJustinM 2 года назад
Qualified automotive electrician for 15 years and have never seen this method before! Seems way superior! Never too old to learn something new 🤙 cheers!
@amhr58
@amhr58 Год назад
Ran into problems trying to do parasitic draw test after watching videos where they pull the fuses. Aside from forums (TDI Club, VW Vortex), this has been the most straightforward explanation on how to see if anything is draining my battery. Thank you!!
@chrisroberson3344
@chrisroberson3344 7 лет назад
Thank you. This is the first video (that I have seen) that is accurate and considerate of late model diagnosis. Thank you for stressing the importance of leaving the fuses in place. You briefly mention the interconnectivity of data buses and how one module can wake up another module. You should expand on this in another video. Maybe talk about a draw that is caused by bus activity. A basic video on isolating busses. Sometimes ALL the fuses have high current because nobody goes to sleep. Maybe too complicated for people that aren't techs, but so important for young techs. Again thank you
@socram321
@socram321 Год назад
For older cars, you may have to tape the door ajar button on the door frame instead of flipping the latch.
@moniqueelwell560
@moniqueelwell560 Год назад
I was wondering about that. Thanks for bringing it up.
@jeromeneely202
@jeromeneely202 8 месяцев назад
yeah and I don't think even duck tape could even keep em pushed. those things are buff.
@andik2329
@andik2329 Год назад
Great video and information. I personally disconnected the battery + and put my amp meter between the plus and the plus cable (10 A setting). I looked the doors and after the car went to sleep I saw a parasite draw of 250 mA. I reconnected the battery locked the doors and checked every single fuse like you did in the video. No draw found. I disconnected the battery again and hooked everything up like before. Then I disconnected the alternator lead from the alternator and the draw was 25mA. So my parasite draw was from the alternator. Since the alternator in my car is not fused I wouldn't be able to find the fault with your method alone
@sollykhan2385
@sollykhan2385 2 года назад
Thank you so much for producing this video, decent 'HUMBLE' people will always appreciate the effort and tenacity that kind and knowledgeable people like yourself have produced content for others to glean from, and further their own insight learning from everyone else, take care, and please keep churning out these great video's, BLESS 😇
@happysawfish
@happysawfish 4 года назад
Best explanation on this subject I've seen! Especially like the attention to detail, and memory precautions on taping over the doors in locked positions so you remember NOT to close them during the test. Excellent, sir, excellent. It is noticed.
@HumbleMechanic
@HumbleMechanic 4 года назад
Thank you
@dubmob151
@dubmob151 5 месяцев назад
I do that on a hatch lid to allow the lights to shut off when using the back accessory outlet for charging, but I don't trust myself to notice tape so I put a small block of foam across the latch to keep the bonehead from closing it onto the striker.😜
@nabun00bs
@nabun00bs 3 года назад
A fuse as a power shunt! Never thought of that until now, but makes perfect sense!
@thisolesignguy2733
@thisolesignguy2733 8 месяцев назад
I wish I had seen this before I went through our bucket truck and started replacing parts...After spending over $2,000 on parts, I finally did this test and found out that our power inverter was the problem. A $2 external power switch, and problem fixed. Thanks for this video! My fault for not googling this before hand lol
@Sammy-ci3pj
@Sammy-ci3pj Год назад
I have a 2004 Chrysler Crossfire. Over the last few years two seemingly unrelated things started to happen. The first was that when driving on hot days - say more than 33 DegC [91.5 DegF] - the Security Alarm would start and would eventually stop after lifting the bonnet (to cool things under there down). The second was that the virtually new heavy duty battery would not hold its charge more than about a month or so. I finally decided to address them with the battery-drain being the first; and, following this video’s instructions to the letter, found that all fuses gave less than 0.1 mV EXCEPT the one which combined the interior roof light, the boot light and the Anti-Theft Alarm Unit, which gave a reading of 0.6 mV. Upon disconnecting the Alarm Unit the reading on the fuse (No 9 in my car) dropped to 0.1 mV. Obviously the Alarm Unit has a fault, which I’m going to follow-up. So, THANK YOU VERY MUCH “The Humble Mechanic” for your really useful method of finding battery drain problems. In my case it’s solved 2 problems at once!! 😊😊
@thisoldjunk5752
@thisoldjunk5752 6 лет назад
I learned a few things for sure. I always test my leads before checking continuity, or ohms. Didn’t think about checking them EVERY time. Solid advise though. Sometimes it’s the little things that will drive you mad. Just had a bad battery on my F100 that passed a charge and load test because it was literally the first thing I checked when my truck wouldn’t start. I knew I had a dead short somewhere. No off gassing, no swelling, no amp draw on the terminals, or fuse box. Truck would not start with a jump. Tested ground cable, solenoid, starter, positive cable, starter cable. Replaced parts that looked sketchy, serviced others. Took a few Saturday afternoons to find before the battery finally stopped taking a charge. Put a new battery on and all problems went with it. Apparently it was only shorting bad enough when I went to discharge it by starting. Otherwise it was powering everything else and showing 12+ volts after a charge....until it didn’t. Let it sit for 3 days to verify that draw was gone.
@stevenkerwin4041
@stevenkerwin4041 Год назад
I had a bad battery connection that allowed all electrical components in the car to work but not start or start poorly. Once the connection was fixed, no problems. I wasn't suspecting a loose battery connection since headlights, etc. were fine.
@vduber03
@vduber03 6 лет назад
As a vw master technician myself, this has always been useful. I now work for audi, been there 3 weeks and taught my shop foreman how to do it this way...he was so confused at first lol then he made sense of what we were looking at. He found this easier.
@josejrsilva4054
@josejrsilva4054 3 года назад
Can you help me out? I can't find the shortage
@vduber03
@vduber03 3 года назад
@@josejrsilva4054 this is for a current draw not finding a short.
@mikecrowley3102
@mikecrowley3102 3 года назад
@@vduber03 It might still be useful. ...If Jose had a 'dead short', then he'd know the faulty circuit by the fuse blown , however , if it's a partial short , then it can be a low current leakage and isolated as shown in the vid. If he does have a dead short then replacing the fuse with a mini circuit breaker breaker helps in the diagnosis procedure .
@lukebarnes2293
@lukebarnes2293 2 года назад
Best video I have seen on this. Working on a kia that we just cant figure out. Changed starter, alternator, battery, power steering and pulleys. Still having draw and cold weather starting. Thanks for the resource.
@psychocycledad
@psychocycledad Год назад
Ive always done amo draws pulling the fuse. I didnt know it could be done this way… thanx for posting
@Anonymous-it5jw
@Anonymous-it5jw 6 лет назад
Thanks for this quick tip, particularly about verifying your probes before beginning to test circuits. That alone is worth the price of admission. As DmcHartsoe pointed out, you might want to say something in your notes, or add something in the video, about the math issues relating to the proper identification of tenths, hundredths and thousandths of a volt in measuring the typically very small voltage drop across an active fuse.
@AlessandroGenTLe
@AlessandroGenTLe 3 года назад
Basically you're applying the principle of a "shunt" normally used into voltmeters and other devices to measure current. Well done :)
@edwardcook6747
@edwardcook6747 2 года назад
My silverado has a screwball terminal style where it screws into the battery. I had no idea how to do a proper draw test with those, but you gave me a solution. Kudos to you, my good sir 👏
@cvanhook85
@cvanhook85 2 года назад
Excellent tutorial. One of the most overlooked issues out there. Bravo sir!
@petemo94
@petemo94 4 года назад
Well done! No extraneous talk, just the facts 👍
@Stambo59
@Stambo59 7 лет назад
Wow, I been in the trade for over 40 years, I have a lot of experience with auto electrical and diagnostics and I still learned something today. Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I must admit I generally click on these videos to pick holes in them and occasionally post comments on what they are doing wrong if it is extreme and obvious. :-) Nothing to pick on here (apart from a wee math error :-))
@HumbleMechanic
@HumbleMechanic 7 лет назад
+Stambo hahaha. This may be my favorite YT comment of all time. :)
@MH-vf6he
@MH-vf6he 5 лет назад
Stambo Yeah ironic isn't it the old method for me has been working for 35 years but it's always good to know something new
@famousforever8556
@famousforever8556 5 лет назад
Wow, a RU-vid professor that acknowledges his motives. Never understood what the draw is of basically acting like the know it all each family has that we avoid like the plague and talk shit about whenever his name comes up.
@dedskin1
@dedskin1 5 лет назад
probably because no one does this , im not a mechanic but i am electrician and long time driver , never saw it . If i had to do it , i would check across the battery
@100zacci
@100zacci 5 лет назад
I have Citroen c4 grand Picasso 1.6hdi semi automatic after shift could not get reverse but managed to drive home I notice while driving service light keeps flashing what could be thaEexact fault
@rojosloho
@rojosloho Год назад
You’ve made a hard problem easier. Thank you. I’ve watched 20 videos to get to suspect problem.
@stevetocci
@stevetocci 3 года назад
Thanks for being so specific in your process. Ready to give it a shot with confidence!
@walkerm777
@walkerm777 7 лет назад
Great job. Some things I didn't know. I remember we used a test light, before the meters. I miss those days. I was the third generation working in a auto electric shop. we started in 1936. And sadly ended in 2006.
@kent570253
@kent570253 6 лет назад
Never heard about this technique before. Will use it from now on. Thank you.
@codyyfenter1041
@codyyfenter1041 3 года назад
Really one of the best most informational videos I’ve seen. Subscribed!!! Thanks man keep it up 👍
@joeramos7616
@joeramos7616 7 месяцев назад
This video was extremely helpful. The guys at the auto shop couldn’t troubleshoot the problem and I had 3 weeks to wait to get it in to the dealer, so I did this test myself and found a failed rear wiper drawing current. Thanks for the help!
@flyingtjar007
@flyingtjar007 7 лет назад
I've seen this method before, I've actually printed off the charts from power probe myself. Had a company training trip to Lincoln tech in colorado, the lead electronics instructor taught us this method.
@kstinson
@kstinson 6 лет назад
I learned on older cars where you start pulling fuses. This actually makes a lot of sense and I can see where it would be very handy. Thank you.
@mrhilma
@mrhilma 2 года назад
Very cool. I am amazed that cheap fuses have very similar resistances and also that someone has measured it to make that chart.
@cosmicmirror1320
@cosmicmirror1320 3 года назад
Wow ,good advice for the volt meter and the leads. Your special Charles and I appreciate the gift of having you. Pesce, respect, blessings in abundance to u and your always my VW car go to guy . Humble indeed
@SketchyAntix
@SketchyAntix 6 лет назад
Thanks for the video! I've been chasing a parasitic draw down for awhile now and this video made it easy to locate! Thanks again man, you're a life saver
@frankd.brennan6520
@frankd.brennan6520 4 года назад
I wish they would have had something like this 30 years ago. Now I'm to old to do it for the most part. Great stuff
@labradormcgraw
@labradormcgraw 4 года назад
Great advice. Very clearly explained too. Gotta love The Humble Mechanic.
@lanceuppercut2483
@lanceuppercut2483 25 дней назад
One of the best produced, and informative videos I have ever seen. On any subject.
@luisgordillo1695
@luisgordillo1695 2 года назад
great video , just remember to always make sure your diagnostic scanner is not plugged in and also make sure that key fob is far from the car as this can make some car systems to stay awake.
@TheSMedema
@TheSMedema 4 года назад
If you do this method to the main battery fuses you can also pin point which fuse box is the problem. Each big fuse goes to a fuse box so you can eliminate probably 80% of the potential problems by measuring 5 or 6 fuses.
@floofsale
@floofsale Год назад
True but the big fuses have covers on them and are not like the small ones with the metal contacts
@CM-kl9qh
@CM-kl9qh 2 года назад
Me “car” is the new house batteries in a C-class RV that would alarm low voltage when used overnight after a full day of driving / charging. This will be a great help! 👍🏻
@robertodom9145
@robertodom9145 3 года назад
Hey you have just gotten a new subscriber. You have went over things that if you are not really thinking, those little things could and would have never entered my mind . THANK YOU, THERE are only 2 people that I watch for auto mechanic repairs.That is you and scott kilmer
@patmccloud1141
@patmccloud1141 7 лет назад
Great info. One thing to keep in mind if you are looking at older cars, at least through the 1980's with American cars, the dome light switch is in the door jamb by the hinge so closing the latches wouldn't make a difference. Then again, those old cars you could just pull a bulb or two and be done with it.
@rontiemens2553
@rontiemens2553 4 года назад
Yes you have to tape those down.
@malibuman8941
@malibuman8941 4 года назад
Some cars has the door jamb switch as well as the latch switch. These circuits are more complex due to alarm systems and to tell the computer that the latch is activated.
@charlesrichards5389
@charlesrichards5389 3 года назад
My 1995 Sentra dome light has an off switch (and nothing else comes on).
@greggeis918
@greggeis918 6 лет назад
Thanks, I’m swapping my radio and this is exactly the technique I was hoping to find to see if the new head unit has a draw issue.
@aspect42
@aspect42 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this, Charles!
@bunberrier
@bunberrier 2 года назад
Ive checked for parasitic loads many times but didnt consider all these subtle things. Learned a lot.
@anthonybreshears198
@anthonybreshears198 5 лет назад
Thats exactly how I check for a draw. Nice work.
@paradoxdea
@paradoxdea 4 года назад
"Humble Mechanic," you humble me. Great video!
@HumbleMechanic
@HumbleMechanic 4 года назад
Thank you
@chumadoshi6987
@chumadoshi6987 3 года назад
Humble with a touch of sarcasm hmm
@plovell2259
@plovell2259 3 года назад
This is one of the best ways I have seen to measure parasitic current draw. Great job on the explanation, I am now a subscriber. I am an electrician and also sable in mechanics and any electronic repair and I found your video to be very helpful!
@HumbleMechanic
@HumbleMechanic 3 года назад
Thank you
@powerbeast5691
@powerbeast5691 3 года назад
These are great methods! Will try it tomorrow. My Mercedes has two batteries and I havent found an instruction how to troubleshoot that, but your method does not rely on battery disconnection. Great!
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 7 лет назад
You covered this topic very well. Since I don't own a German made car, I love these videos that cover "all makes" .
@HumbleMechanic
@HumbleMechanic 7 лет назад
Awesome! Thank you :)
@bobroszkowski
@bobroszkowski 7 лет назад
Great video! Basically you are measuring the the voltage drop across the fuse just like measuring across a resistor in a circuit. To take it further, if you don't have that handy chart with you, you can always remove the fuse, switch to ohms on meter and use ohms law (V=I*R) to figure out the current draw. It might be a little more accurate as you have real numbers to calculate. Use the battery voltage and divide by resistance. This will give you current in amps. I personally have not used this method but I see that it would be far more superior than other methods. Math never lies. :) Now I am tempted to go to the car and document every fuse draw and save to a list. So if there should be a problem in the future, I know what circuit values should be. Thanks again.
@blueplasma5589
@blueplasma5589 2 года назад
is that asterisk a X? lol
@gasman10169
@gasman10169 8 дней назад
Thank you. Great video. I am an Engineering Tech and never thought to measure the fuse drop to calculate the circuit current.
@211212112
@211212112 2 года назад
I tell you what a light with two leads can be really handy finding a short to ground. Hook one side to battery +. Then start by pulling out a fuse. Connect the other lead to the + side of where the fuse plugs in. Do that with each circuit. If the light comes on you have a short to ground in that circuit between the battery and the fuse. When the light goes off the short is fixed or just not shorted out. You can use the light and jiggle stuff, close doors, etc to see what causes a temporary short. I did this to isolate a short in the passenger side back door. A yellow wire to the window regulator had missing insulation and would short against the door sometimes when it was closed.
@ke6bnl
@ke6bnl 7 лет назад
very good video and useful information
@larryheller6963
@larryheller6963 6 лет назад
Great video - even as an electrical engineer I didn't know the fuse voltage trick! But a slight misstatement regarding your first chart reading - you had a current draw of about 1 amp, not .1 amps as you said.
@jjjsss3869
@jjjsss3869 3 года назад
you beat me to it
@steadyeddie7453
@steadyeddie7453 Год назад
Good video. Always know the equipment you are using. I always change my meter out of the auto-ranging default when turned on. What looks like (example) 500 ohms could actually be .500 (1/2 ohm) if you are not watching the floating decimal point. What can look like 119VAC can can actually be .119VAC. That conversion chart is a blessing. And yes you tubers, it can take an hour or more for all the systems in a vehicle to go to sleep. Crazy times....
@claytonchar9232
@claytonchar9232 3 года назад
Thank you for your video. Your presentation was very helpful. I'm currently dealing with a parasitic drain problem on my 2000 BMW Z3. It's a small drain because it takes about a week for the battery to die. I have load tested the battery and it's good.
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 7 лет назад
I've been doing this without the charts, then going for the circuit with the biggest drop. Thanks for the charts! At first glance I wondered if they actually measured these values, or whether they used Ohm's law, calculating the numbers. A quick back-of-the-envelope check on a couple of chart numbers shows variable resistance depending on amperage, although strangely resistance was lower at higher current for a few. The numbers are really small, so slight corrosion at the tip of the probe might change values. I like your idea to trick the computer into thinking the doors are shut so it will go to sleep.
@spheth8895
@spheth8895 5 лет назад
W
@DavidWilliams-xl7wp
@DavidWilliams-xl7wp 5 лет назад
I would expect a lower voltage drop on a higher amp fuse, after all it does have to carry more current requiring a larger internal fuse element. bigger element carries more currrent without overheating, ie blowing out.
@burritos1000
@burritos1000 Год назад
It's not that strange to find lower resistance for the higher rated fuses. Fuse is meant to blow at certain heat developed by current flowing across a resistance. Heat is generated by power dissapation in the resistive material. Power is the current squared x the resistance. Simplistically speaking, if you had same resistance for the higher rated fuse, say 30A, that fuse will blow just the same as the 1A fuse. Of course, they can use different materials to change characteristics of when the material melts with different resistance/current combo.
@markharvey7463
@markharvey7463 Год назад
Wow! What a great find this Humble Mechanic is. I'm a fairly good mechanic from years of fixing my own cars, but always learn something new and very useful on this channel. Great explanations, no wasted time! Thank you!
@lar7905
@lar7905 2 года назад
Not a techie myself....but I learned 2 things , er maybe 3. How to check the fuses with the probes , how to check my ohms reading on my voltmeter. And to hold on to my 2005 Highlander because it's not as high maintenance as the car you were checking...lol...P.S. ...great presentation . You stayed on point in a highly technical subject . You didn't waste time with lengthy introductions . The length of the video was about the optimal time I want to watch. Others spend 20+ minutes and don't deliver as clear and concise info. Great job.
@rustypotatos
@rustypotatos 2 года назад
Bro…. You rock so much. This just opened so many mental barriers
@danetsuryatama6419
@danetsuryatama6419 4 года назад
Parasitic draw is everywhere these days, especially when our cars become electric. Thanks for a nice video
@metoo3918
@metoo3918 3 года назад
7:05 Where did the 35mA spec come from that he speaks of? Also, aren't there some things that are supposed to be drawing current at all times like the receiver that listens for or detects you key fob, etc.?
@mattt945
@mattt945 Год назад
"Always check the leads..". Sound advice thanks.
@DGinNC
@DGinNC 3 месяца назад
Thanks for this method much better than the pull fuses method (which works) that takes soooo much longer as you have to wait for the car to go back to sleep upon reinserting the fuse. Absolutely brilliant.
@warrenzevonsangryghost6055
@warrenzevonsangryghost6055 6 лет назад
Electronics tech here...might mention that it does take a pretty decent meter to get anything like a semi-accurate reading when getting down into the low mV range. If you are considering trucking over to Hazard Fraught to shell out a whole $10 on a meter, you will certainly get what you pay for. IMO, everyone ought to have a decent meter that they can trust, so maybe a used Fluke on eBay or a Owon or Triplett from Parts Express. Stay away from the $10 stuff.
@rickcperry
@rickcperry 6 лет назад
VERY good point!
@crpth1
@crpth1 6 лет назад
Jr McDonald - While I totally agree on the quality of the equipment/tools. The fact is that in real life car workshop environment a top of the line ($$$) is a pure waste of money. You want something cheap and simple, that someone will trow a wrench on top and you don't get an hearth attack to see the dollars flying out of the window. Don't ask. LOL :-) With this said the need for very high accuracy in most car testings are not even close to a electronics repair lab counterpart. Some 98% of the work is just like in this video. It's more important to keep the lead tips clean and tested. So, not the $10 for sure, but the $20 should be just fine. ;-)
@felixcat4346
@felixcat4346 6 лет назад
Yes I agree. BTW the cheapest Harbor Freight multimeter will accurately measure down into the micro volt range with complete safety.
@Ghettoblasterhp600
@Ghettoblasterhp600 5 лет назад
Go back to grade school bud.
@bobbg9041
@bobbg9041 5 лет назад
Jr McDonald ever open one of them 10 dollar suckers up to see what Fry's them? Pretty scary shit. I wouldnt use them on High voltage. Might be your last test. But they make a good door stop in a pinch.
@rickcperry
@rickcperry 6 лет назад
Chart not accessible with link anymore.... Came to this video with doubt and ready to blast you in the comments but left with a little more wisdom. Thanks for this great information! I do electrical work on hotrods and this will be my GO TO method from now on!
@grassroot011
@grassroot011 5 лет назад
Is now, I just got it and copied out.
@teddbobb4672
@teddbobb4672 4 месяца назад
I love that you still have your UTI DMM
@Veghead
@Veghead 3 года назад
Great video. The best. Just got a 95 g30 RV. Thourough, smart & complete. Thank You.
@poellot
@poellot Год назад
Remember, some modern vehicles, as well as most older, use a door jam switch separate from the latch that activates the dome lights.
@libran58
@libran58 5 месяцев назад
yeah I have to jam mine, it is 1991. I dare not latch the doors open it will have a fit. Have to close doors and leave drivers window open.
@johnb1121
@johnb1121 4 года назад
Can you make a video just on how to use a multimeter PLEASE
@hairpunut
@hairpunut 2 года назад
This is alot better then the old school method i was doing. Im gonna try to out instead. Because like you said pulling fuses was disturbing my test. So im going to have to use this when i get a chance. Thanks for the info!.
@firstmkb
@firstmkb 5 лет назад
Awesome, good procedure, great "small" tips like the tape. One of the videos that I'd like to give more than one Thumbs Up to! 👍👍
@mikeward2890
@mikeward2890 5 лет назад
Nice. Never thought to check the voltage drop across a fuse. Thanks
@jimm9991
@jimm9991 7 лет назад
thumbs up for power probe charts and humble for posting the info. Thanks
@HumbleMechanic
@HumbleMechanic 7 лет назад
Rock on@
@edsnyder5488
@edsnyder5488 3 года назад
So glad I stumbled onto this site. Nice Job HM.
@HumbleMechanic
@HumbleMechanic 3 года назад
Thanks
@ecartbunch8562
@ecartbunch8562 3 месяца назад
Your DVMM is exactly the same as mine. Thanks for sharing.
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