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The Best Ways to Play Every Sonic Game 

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@Pariah6950
@Pariah6950 9 месяцев назад
Forgot to mention, Sonic 3 AIR claims to require a Steam copy of 3K to be played. But that is no longer available... Fortunately, all it really needs to the right rom of Sonic 3 & Knuckles with the right name in the right folder. So if you just so happened to already have a rom of 3K that you acquired via totally legitimate means, you're good.
@urlhnd
@urlhnd 9 месяцев назад
hoo boy, what a good time to own a S3K copy on Steam
@floatyghost633
@floatyghost633 9 месяцев назад
Totally legitimate means
@evdestroy4121
@evdestroy4121 9 месяцев назад
Totally legitimate means
@TintFrenzy
@TintFrenzy 9 месяцев назад
You actually still can have it. The genesis collection (which for some reason has 3K) you can extract the bin file and boom. Or you can pirate
@hardboiledegg4193
@hardboiledegg4193 9 месяцев назад
You can find the files online lmao
@alexos9011
@alexos9011 9 месяцев назад
This video is literally public service. Would you be interested in getting subtitles in other languages for this video? I feel like this should get to as large of an audience as possible
@Pariah6950
@Pariah6950 9 месяцев назад
I'm not opposed to it. But I've never added subtitles to a RU-vid video. I'd have to learn how to do it. I also don't know any other languages. So others would have to provide the translations.
@alexos9011
@alexos9011 9 месяцев назад
@@Pariah6950 I could provide a french translation if you're interested. A Portuguese one too
@Pariah6950
@Pariah6950 9 месяцев назад
@@alexos9011 I won't tell you to do it. But if you do, I'll see about adding them to the video. The more people that can use this, the better.
@derickalexandrino1975
@derickalexandrino1975 9 месяцев назад
​@@alexos9011ai sim doido👌👌👌💯💯💯
@yall_girl_eve
@yall_girl_eve 8 месяцев назад
​@@alexos9011Ah eu ia me oferecer pra português mas confio em vc entt kakskaks
@sehtuk3953
@sehtuk3953 9 месяцев назад
Something for Sonic Unleashed Wii is "Werehog Wiimprovement" by SuperrSonic. It's a mod mostly focused around changing minor things, but it makes the very nice improvement of being able to disable the Werehog battle theme so you can just listen to the regular music (you can even change the music per act if you want). It also has the ability to switch to Japanese voice acting, turning off the glossy effect Sonic's model has and other smaller changes.
@Pariah6950
@Pariah6950 9 месяцев назад
I am aware of that. But it does not work with the 60 FPS hack. That kills it in my book.
@tnt3203
@tnt3203 9 месяцев назад
Does mod really exist? Where can i find it?
@YisuselPrime
@YisuselPrime 7 месяцев назад
Where do I get the mod?
@TheDiego908
@TheDiego908 9 месяцев назад
Glad to see an alternative to CD restored. I really didn't like the fact that you had to unlock the original soundtrack in that.
@MGLpr0
@MGLpr0 9 месяцев назад
Just get a 100% save
@aortaplatinum
@aortaplatinum 9 месяцев назад
Yeah that's bullshit, calling it "restored" but making people listen to your mashups instead of the actual fucking soundtracks is really shitty
@BoxoSpoons
@BoxoSpoons 9 месяцев назад
Best part is the comments on the mod page where the creator gets weirdly hostile to anyone who thinks you shouldn’t have to 100% the game multiple times to unlock the original soundtracks in the mod to restore the game to it’s original version.
@MGLpr0
@MGLpr0 9 месяцев назад
@@BoxoSpoons Who cares, it's free
@sackydzNG
@sackydzNG 9 месяцев назад
Wait you have to 100% the game to unlock the original soundtrack? Must be a new update
@revi6355
@revi6355 9 месяцев назад
For generations there is mod for cutscenes in 720p like ps3. Normally they are in 480p like on x360. And I also recomend mods like: Better fxpepile for better antyaliasing and mod "soft shadows" for ofc better looking shadows
@Pariah6950
@Pariah6950 9 месяцев назад
It's been added. Thanks!
@revi6355
@revi6355 9 месяцев назад
@@Pariah6950 please also add those 2 mods I write after editing
@elibonham4388
@elibonham4388 9 месяцев назад
​@@revi6355wtf is it in 480p xbox360 lmao
@evdestroy4121
@evdestroy4121 9 месяцев назад
@@elibonham4388 PS3 used Blu-Ray, 360 still used DVD. Less storage space for the fmvs, so they had to be rendered at 480p on 360. I imagine the reason they're 480p on PC is also to cut down on the filesize.
@lemonov3031
@lemonov3031 6 месяцев назад
The sheer аutism of the fanbase is what motivates me to eventually try to play the whole series. Good job actually making a spreadsheet, I wish a similar effort existed for other franchises I care about.
@NatetheNintendofan
@NatetheNintendofan 6 месяцев назад
Chris Chan I have autism and real life me dose too
@rando6677
@rando6677 6 месяцев назад
What is it with people calling Sonic Fans Autistic? It’s not funny tbh
@lemonov3031
@lemonov3031 6 месяцев назад
@@rando6677 don't try to argue that you aren't lol
@rando6677
@rando6677 6 месяцев назад
@@lemonov3031Well I myself believe I’m not but all I’m saying is I find it weird some people assume you’re autistic if u like sonic
@gothamgymnast4638
@gothamgymnast4638 5 месяцев назад
the only reason sonic fans spend so much time making all these mods and fangames and fixes is because SEGA is too lazy to do it themselves, other franchises dont get this type of attention because those games already come with these basic features
@Xan_P_
@Xan_P_ 9 месяцев назад
There is also Sonic Origins Ultrafix as an alternative for the 4 classic sonic games, which fixes and improves a lot of parts of Origins (such as the lack of arrow key support, sprite restorations and tweaks, and other fixes). I’d probably recommend this to people who want a more “purist” version as while S1F and S2A are amazing, some find it changes too much. Overall tho great video!
@harrisoncora4259
@harrisoncora4259 9 месяцев назад
Yay! Somebody said it!
@harrisoncora4259
@harrisoncora4259 9 месяцев назад
Your mod is now recommended on PCGaming Wiki. Isn’t that cool?
@bogusbogusbogusbogus
@bogusbogusbogusbogus 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the recommendation. I really don't like some of the changes in Absolute and Forever. The redone spritework just makes everything look cheaply "cute" and the original charm of the game gets lost as a result. The Hidden Palace omission is another thing that turns me off from the project. They removed it because they're annoyed that it wasn't "hidden enough". Whatever that means. I don't like when modders feel like they should have to one up the original devs. I'm all for people putting their own spins on things, but at least have the decency to make significant changes like that toggleable. The Taxman take on the Hidden Palace entry was commendable as a wink and nudge toward an infamous set piece in the game. It was smart to not be overly ambitious with it.
@spongebobfan78
@spongebobfan78 9 месяцев назад
Not an improvement, but there's also a mod for Frontiers, found in the Internet Archive, that adds the Japan-only DLCs. Similarly, SADX has mods that restores the original SA1 DLCs. 32:55 You forgot to mention that Riders has a PC version, as a side note, even if it's not preferable over the emulated Gamecube version.
@Windermed
@Windermed 7 месяцев назад
wait Frontiers has region-exclusive DLCs? 😭
@spongebobfan78
@spongebobfan78 7 месяцев назад
@@Windermed Region-exclusive store-exclusive pre-order DLCs
@EdalgmWasTaken
@EdalgmWasTaken 9 месяцев назад
You didn't mention Sonic's Schoolhouse, therefore all your opinions are invalid.
@WorksOfMagic
@WorksOfMagic 9 месяцев назад
22:10 In regards to Mania, there is a mod that's currently in development which aims to be what Forever and Absolute were to Sonic 1 & 2. It's called Sonic Mania Addendum, and it is a decomp mod which aims to fix oversights left by the developers like fixing character palette mess-ups (Mighty having a weird skin tone after turning Super and losing the Super transformation is an example). It also aims to add a shit ton of toggles like ones for the characters' moveset (Max control anyone?) or which character you'd like to have as a partner throughout the campaign no matter who you play as etc... It aims to even fix some very minor level design bullshit, and just overall tries to polish the game up further. Also, if you weren't sold on getting the mod, maybe you'd be if I told you about the addition of a playable Amy, complete with her own character slot? If you want to try it out, a demo was first released for the Sonic Hacking Contest. It's since been getting more progress, with the addition of CE+ skins being in the works, and even mobile support if you're into that kind of thing. I genuinely recommend checking it out.
@Kelps.mp4
@Kelps.mp4 9 месяцев назад
It's not exactly a Forever/Absolute equivalent as Mania, it's more like a Shadow Reloaded equivalent in my opinion. Although it is in fact the best version to play the game without a doubt.
@Mechanicalamity
@Mechanicalamity 9 месяцев назад
@@Kelps.mp4People really love saying that for some reason as if Forever and Absolute are the only points of reference
@wildberrysherbert3803
@wildberrysherbert3803 9 месяцев назад
Sidenote about Sonic Heroes: there's a mod called Sonic Heroes Adventure that fixes the scripted sequence problem (on top of a lot of it's own original changes)
@legoawcstopmotioner9435
@legoawcstopmotioner9435 9 месяцев назад
Another mod I recommend to people who are using any sort of volume tweaking mod for SA2 is the Transforming Scene Volume Fix mod. Cutscene Revamp and Volume Control are great mods, but it kind of ruins the scene where Sonic and Shadow power up to fight the Biolizard because Live and Learn gets drowned out. Transforming Scene Volume Fix addresses that problem. It might conflict with the other mods in the spreadsheet. I'm not sure. But just thought I'd mention it.
@Pariah6950
@Pariah6950 9 месяцев назад
Added. Thanks.
@virtualashez
@virtualashez 9 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for bringing more light to Shadow Reloaded. It's an excellent mod which fixes some of the only gripes I have with my favourite Sonic game!
@dreamsyntax
@dreamsyntax 9 месяцев назад
Hey there, if you have any feedback I would love to hear it . We are considering some changes based on feedback from 1.0-1.1.
@virtualashez
@virtualashez 9 месяцев назад
There is one bug where for a short while after using Chaos Control on the 16:9 version of Reloaded, the screen is squished together. Not sure what causes it, just know it's there. Other than that, it's a perfect mod I'd say.@@dreamsyntax
@dreamsyntax
@dreamsyntax 9 месяцев назад
@@virtualashez This is actually a side effect of my widescreen patch and Dolphin's aspect heuristic. You can prevent this by choosing Graphics -> Aspect Ratio (16:9 or Stretch to Windows, whatever you prefer). I'll see if I can fix this, but its low priority since its a dolphin behavior.
@virtualashez
@virtualashez 9 месяцев назад
Ah, thank you!@@dreamsyntax
@Tea-Slurper
@Tea-Slurper Месяц назад
Based Shadow enjoyer
@Canalbiruta
@Canalbiruta 9 месяцев назад
But... i like the werehog levels T.T no joke is the reason why i love unleashed so much. Sonic levels are as incredible as ppl say, but i also had a blast playing the werehog stages.
@elibonham4388
@elibonham4388 9 месяцев назад
There both great! The same in unwished
@lorenzoreigada9681
@lorenzoreigada9681 3 месяца назад
they are really fun but way too long for my taste, most werehog levels take on average 20-30 minutes
@Canalbiruta
@Canalbiruta 3 месяца назад
@@lorenzoreigada9681 i recall like 2 taking 20 mins to me, the rest were like 10-15, and i loved every second of it beside one specific session of arid sands night that had a secret fight that felt like it would never end for how many enemies it had spawning ome after the other. Despite that, i loved it so much! Maybe playing with the no battle music mod was the key lmao
@SunkythePootis
@SunkythePootis 9 месяцев назад
Another recommendation that can be made for Advance 2 is Sonic Advance 2 SP. It's a rom hack that not only reduces the special ring requirements from seven to five (along with more added special rings added to each level), but it also adds some new level layouts to reduce the amount of bottomless pits later levels can exhibit and in turn help make the difficulty curve more gradual compared to the original game.
@Pariah6950
@Pariah6950 9 месяцев назад
I'm aware of it. But level design and physics changes are things I'm very wary about. Usually I find they harm the game though a lack of understanding why things are the way they are in the first place.
@elibonham4388
@elibonham4388 9 месяцев назад
​@@Pariah6950advanced 1 has a fullscreen version of the game with super widescreen with shadow silver blaze and tails as a playability. The last time i checked there were only 4 levels available as far as im aware
@bland9876
@bland9876 8 месяцев назад
​@@Pariah6950there's a section in Sonic advance 1 where you basically have to go back and forth a bunch of times while you're climbing up this spot and it's super annoying and dumb because of how close it is so like yeah that should definitely be changed.
@BlueyXbox
@BlueyXbox 9 месяцев назад
Finally, someone brings up Miracle Edition. I always liked that one better and never understood why people liked Restored better, as that changed WAY too much for my liking.
@ViperAcidZX
@ViperAcidZX 9 месяцев назад
Not to mention the guy behind Restored, PimpUigi, is a massive prick with an ego who can't criticism over his project (he even disabled stamps on his account and uses a phony +7 agree signature to make it "look" like people are agreeing with his nonsense). The same can be said for the RSDK decomp developers (especially LittlePlanetCD who has been a massive SJW from personal experience) forcing people to pay for Origins Plus for features that _used_ to be freely available in mods up until that cashgrab of a collection removed the original games off digital distribution and they masked off against make people who already purchased Sonic 1, 2, 3&K, and CD in other forms prior to Sonic Origins. Didn't help that in Sonic CD Restored you're forced to play the game twice or speedrun it to unlock the costume soundtrack feature, which used to be available when it used to as Sonic CD Restored + ...And Knuckles add-on before these changes, and even still that mod it is lacking compared to Sonic CD: Miracle Edition's or the older Restored & Knuckles add-on's selection of music. For the people who DO want to get those features back into recent versions of Miracle Edition, Restored, certain other mods, and the decomps themselves since they decided to lock all this stuff behind an arbitrary paywall since the mobile ports 1, 2, and CD are F2P, you'd have to go through this tedious, time-consuming process of installing development tools (which eat up a TON of disk space to use, by the way), compiling this crap from source code, dumping the raw data files out of the RSDK files, extracting the missing audio files from either the mobile versions of 1, 2, and CD then adding all of the missing music and sounds from Origins Plus to the data files because the Origins/Plus RSDKs don't have any audio files inside them since sound is entirely handled by the Hedgehog Engine 2 in Sonic Origins or ripping the audio files from Origins Plus itself, hex editing certain files to make them work correctly in the decompilation ports... all this crap that some people who either don't have the time or patience to learn how to manually is why I definitely can see why Pariah (and many others) didn't bother with doing any of this stuff on this video for Miracle Edition. It's even worse for those who may not even have legitimate access to Sonic Origins Plus in their region as someone in GameBanana said, but you're screwed if you're in that situation because that's the """rules""" for the decompilation ports now. This is why I said Bethesda respected classic Doom and Quake fans better than Sega does with Sonic the Hedgehog, yet little miss LittlePlanetCD and others got so offended by my opinions on Sonic Origins that they gone out of their way to silence/censor my comments (by abusing GameBanana's site rules) and harass me. Great modding community of brittle-skinned bootlickers.
@keeby4
@keeby4 9 месяцев назад
@@ViperAcidZXhe seems like an asshole judging by some of his comments on the gamebanana page.
@urlhnd
@urlhnd 9 месяцев назад
@@ViperAcidZX There’s only one answer for you: legality. All these ways are legal ways of obtaining the games. Distributing these games in a new package would mean directly competing with SEGA’s current offering. Hence why all this tedious process is required.
@tylermannor4290
@tylermannor4290 9 месяцев назад
@@ViperAcidZX I agree with you that the CD situation kind of sucks, but the alternative is potentially illegal. The idea is so that SEGA doesn't start to act like how Nintendo does with fan projects. It sucks, but it's the only way to stay on SEGA's good side.
@TheGershon
@TheGershon 9 месяцев назад
@@ViperAcidZX Holy shit, I already hated PimpUigi's bitch ass but the fake +7 agree signature is unbelievably pathetic, I had to check it out myself and I can't believe it's actually real. So glad Miracle Edition exists, I haven't been into the CD modding scene in a while since I've been sticking with an older version of Restored that still combines with & Knuckles so I'm happy to check it out.
@saulw103
@saulw103 9 месяцев назад
This is such a nice surprise to see a new version of your old enhancements video! I’ve been using your spreadsheet for about a year now and it’s introduced me to so many QOL improvements for the whole series that I otherwise would never know about
@Far2Sega4U
@Far2Sega4U 9 месяцев назад
Recently I got a Steam Deck so this list is perfect timing now that I finally have this device and can play all these games
@stoneypride5460
@stoneypride5460 9 месяцев назад
Hey there is a really big mod for sonic forces called sonic forces overclocked It's basically a new game that looks really good! The full release is not out yet but it is close so I say keep an eye on it.
@PhantomOfficial07
@PhantomOfficial07 8 месяцев назад
I was a little disappointed by it but only because I expected it to be a remake of Forces not a sequel
@skeLPCgamez
@skeLPCgamez 9 месяцев назад
For Forces I would recommend the "Sonic Forces: Reimagined" mod. Even though it is somewhat of an overhaul they've also altered the physics slightly for Modern + Avatar and made the level design not only just more engaging but there are entirely new sections to make the stage length a lot more longer. Sunset Heights, Aqua Road, Guardian Rock, Network Terminal, Arsenal Pyramid and Iron Fortress are the ones that have new sections.
@justiceiria869
@justiceiria869 4 месяца назад
hard agree
@HazeX2
@HazeX2 9 месяцев назад
That sucks you have to buy a mediocre collection to get Knuckles and Amy in CD
@ViperAcidZX
@ViperAcidZX 9 месяцев назад
And thanks to Sonic Origins Plus and a toxic modding community, now mods require not only the Origins Plus data files for things that used to be available through mods _long_ before Sega even come up with them, but also compiling the decomps manually through the source code, a tedious, time-consuming, and a waste of hard drive space that's a hassle for a lot of people. It's especially unfair to people in certain countries who may not have legitimate access to Sonic Origins Plus at all and they're callously screwed over like this.
@revan9253
@revan9253 4 месяца назад
I really hope you see this comment because Dear god…… I’m literally speechless on describing the time and dedication this took it’s literally impressive probably for you was a piece of cake or not…. I really just know the basics of PC gaming I just use it for work on college and play only non Con lose games im just a “casual gamer” because I just play on console But just long short story I recently became interested in Sonic games by the music I found it by memes and then the chain of discoveries began and here I am Thank you for this Information I really appreciate it
@elibonham4388
@elibonham4388 9 месяцев назад
Now this is a christmas gift pariah. Merry christmas and thank you for the content you produce
@TommFoolery
@TommFoolery 9 месяцев назад
Your original video on this was my introduction to playing this series a bit over a year ago and it became one of my favourite franchises. Can't wait to update the games I haven't gotten around to yet, thanks for all this Pariah!
@elibonham4388
@elibonham4388 9 месяцев назад
What games have you played so far
@Far2Sega4U
@Far2Sega4U 9 месяцев назад
W awesome new Sonic fan
@TommFoolery
@TommFoolery 9 месяцев назад
@@elibonham4388 So far I've completed 1-3 (including CD and not including "& Knuckles"), Adventure 1, Unleashed, Gens. As for the games I've played for a couple hours but not finished, I've tried Sonic R, Heroes, Secret Rings, UnWIIshed, Colors and Frontiers. I have all the mainline games and most of the side games set up and ready to play via emulation
@TommFoolery
@TommFoolery 9 месяцев назад
@@Far2Sega4U Honestly one of my favourite communities to be apart of. So many passionate and talented people, it's really cool.
@aplsed
@aplsed 8 месяцев назад
30:34 Small thing about Sonic X-treme: There are several leaked builds of the game available online you could play, as well as a leaked dev build complete with the engine used to play it. They're better to play for the novelty of it, as these builds aren't entirely stable (or fun, for that matter) but they are a very nice look-through for those curious enough.
@Soniman001
@Soniman001 9 месяцев назад
Is it crazy to anyone else that Sonic Heroes, the sequel to SA2 is just….not available at all, outside the official release? 20 years ago?
@MattNL
@MattNL 9 месяцев назад
First off, fantastic video! I really appreciate your efforts here and look forward to trying these out. Something worth mentioning for Unleashed: if you don't have a good PC, and happen to have an Xbox Series X, Unleashed has a pretty good backwards compatible version. That version is enhanced with higher resolution, framerate and is overall much more stable than the original 360 version. It doesn't address any issues with the game itself of course, but at least Adabat doesn't drop to 12 fps anymore lol. I recently got to 100% it thanks to that and had a much more enjoyable time than I did originally on 360... still not my favorite though.
@DanialProhozdenia
@DanialProhozdenia 9 месяцев назад
I really like this video but with wii games you kinda made errors Secret Rings: ... Well that the only one that bassicaly same as in your video but there is no gloss mod so sonic wouldnt glow in game Unwiished: there kinda a whole gamebanana page of mods and there many mods that enchance the game Black Knight: This still has no gloss mod like 1st storybook game but there is now Full HD Texture Pack BUT ALSO mod that gives same treatment to it like colors dx albeit not automated and game will look A TON BETTER Colors: Well yea for now DX is best one but i think you should have mentioned Project Re-rainbow its a mod to Ultimate and makes Colors look like Unleashed and Generations and also improve fmvs and ext. Also there other mods to improve some bugs in SCU so in future best version will be Project Rerainbow Also Generations: that is not a wii game but you forgot to mention classic sonic improvement mod that is like in forces but much better so classic sonic plays a lot better and you will need directx11 mod and betterfxpipeline to work Edit: Chaos And Blast: Both of them have in development remakes like sonic 1 and 2 sms and they all in same engine but triple trouble left to die because 16 bit remake Advance: Advance 1 has a android port and it has mod called anniversary mod pack that adds fixes to original japanese android release of Sonic Advance Advance 2 has a mod Sonic Advance 2 SP By trackertd which deletes cheap advance 2 methods to make game harder and it also lowers sp ring requierment but only to 5 Advance 3 only thing i can recommend here is some gameshark codes for infinite life and 1 SS Ring needed codes Colors DS Has mod that adds widescreen to this game and also makes game on one screen + customization like Ultimate
@akaithehedgehog
@akaithehedgehog 9 месяцев назад
Colors Ultimate is gonna have a main mod coming soon that fixes its problems called Project Re-Rainbow
@spritvio639
@spritvio639 9 месяцев назад
Oh yes, I can not wait for that.
@AlmandMulk
@AlmandMulk 9 месяцев назад
its probably worth mentioning that soon there will be a mod for Sonic Colours Ultimate called Project ReRainbow which aims to improve the graphics and gameplay by a pretty large margin. It's being done by bluwolfblitz and it genuinely looks really good, too soon to say but it could probably end up being the definitive way to play colours
@millabasset1710
@millabasset1710 9 месяцев назад
Even though I still play my Switch, I'm pretty much PC only for the reasons you stated. Emulation is so much better than it was a decade ago, you can do it with minimal effort and even welfare PCs can handle them. My gaming laptop just has a 4060 inside, clearly an entry level machine and retroarch has no hitches whatsoever.
@jp5394
@jp5394 9 месяцев назад
As a casual Sonic fan myself, I have dismissed many of these games, but now, thanks to this video and your dedication of doing a list, I might do a Sonic binge over the holidays.
@kirbaran2039
@kirbaran2039 8 месяцев назад
Sonic 3 A.I.R. is kinda hard to use because you need a Steam ROM. It's the only way to go for Eukaryot and/or others because... sonic 3 was never on mobile anyways-
@QuartzQuadrant
@QuartzQuadrant 9 месяцев назад
As good as Project 06 is and as much of an improvement over the original as it is, I do not think it is a replacement for the original yet. Thank you for including that little bit about Legacy of Solaris, I wasn't aware of Shadow Reloaded so it's good seeing an improvement mod for the game. Great video and really good mods overall, legend.
@grthjryrd7552
@grthjryrd7552 8 месяцев назад
agreed people need to see how hilariously awful it is first
@QuartzQuadrant
@QuartzQuadrant 8 месяцев назад
@@grthjryrd7552 Well it’s also because P-06 is very incomplete and missing things from the original game, but I do agree that experiencing how terrible the original release (especially the PS3 version) is important and can lead to some funny moments.
@grthjryrd7552
@grthjryrd7552 8 месяцев назад
@@QuartzQuadrantthe first level of p06 is superior to 06 as a whole
@QuartzQuadrant
@QuartzQuadrant 8 месяцев назад
@@grthjryrd7552 A more enjoyable experience but not complete and certainly not a replacement.
@grthjryrd7552
@grthjryrd7552 8 месяцев назад
@@QuartzQuadrant it is cope
@stormysoup1083
@stormysoup1083 8 месяцев назад
Surprised you didn't mention the Xbox backwards compatible version of Sonic Unleashed, it's stable and it runs at 60FPS so it's arguably better and definitely more accessible than PC emulation, at least for now
@SPIDERKN1GHT0327
@SPIDERKN1GHT0327 5 месяцев назад
Sonic CD isn’t worth the hassle overall honestly
@FlashBiduan
@FlashBiduan 9 месяцев назад
There is a proplem with sa2 is that you can't use any normal or other platform Controller besides 360 Controller which is a proplem to me I don't have a 360 controller how to change it the launcher won't allow to use other Controller and mod loader can't help eaither
@GottaBGlitches
@GottaBGlitches 9 месяцев назад
As someone who doesn't own a PC, I can play a large percentage of Sonic games. (I count fan games separately). I use my Xbox Series S to play most games, but for stuff like Heroes and the original all-stars racing, I use my PS3 Super Slim, or exclusively for Heroes, I could also use my first model Wii. I don't have Sonic UnWiished, I can't play Shadow The Hedgehog, Knuckles chaotix, Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric, the advance trilogy, Sonic Battle, or Sonic Chronicles (because I'm not too familiar with using roms with my modded 2DS XL). Sure they're not the best way to play them and despite how I really want to play the fan projects (especially P06), I can't, because even opening google makes the fan so loud that it sounds like my laptop's gonna catch fire or explode.
@zanyunknown2564
@zanyunknown2564 8 месяцев назад
Honestly, I just want every game (especially shadow) to get Xbox ports.
@noamskplaying
@noamskplaying 9 месяцев назад
people are already working on making dream on other devices so keep an eye on it if you don't have an apple device
@DydexdaRobit
@DydexdaRobit 9 месяцев назад
Would ANY of this be possible with a laptop made for gaming, because I’m planning on getting one this Christmas
@Sydney_Angelyt
@Sydney_Angelyt 9 месяцев назад
A small addition to 06. I believe Xenia Canary is better for 06 and Legacy of Solaris. Also, no matter what you choose, if you're playing 06 on Xenia/Canary, occasionally the graphics will go haywire. When this happens, simply press F5 to clear the cache. Also, when using 06 mod loader, enable several patches including disable stumble, enable rapid homing attack and fix air momemtum, controllable bound attack, spammable spindash and others I've inevitably forgotten.
@evdestroy4121
@evdestroy4121 9 месяцев назад
Canary is generally just better overall
@HazeX2
@HazeX2 9 месяцев назад
Do those patches work with Legacy of Solaris? Only reason I haven't checked them out
@evdestroy4121
@evdestroy4121 9 месяцев назад
@@HazeX2 Do not use patches with LoS. A lot of those patches are already baked into the game, and many of the ones that aren't will break things.
@HazeX2
@HazeX2 9 месяцев назад
@@evdestroy4121 I figured, thanks for confirming. I've been enjoying LoS so far, so I wasn't too curious about them. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.
@erc3338
@erc3338 9 месяцев назад
Was the first version of this video deleted? I wanted to check which playlist I had it in to put this one in it too but I can't find that first video.
@ethanbosch3227
@ethanbosch3227 8 месяцев назад
Assuming the plumber’s legal team doesn’t come after you, it would be amazing if you made a video like this for other series like Mario, Zelda or Metroid. Great video!
@SRank2023
@SRank2023 9 месяцев назад
Awesome! But for Sonic Colors I would look out for bluwolf’s Project are-Rainbow project when it drops!
@jacobwetherall5740
@jacobwetherall5740 8 месяцев назад
No Rush or Rivals? 😏 Regardless, this is fucking awesome and I can't wait to try out some of the fixes you suggested
@luper_modder
@luper_modder 9 месяцев назад
26:44 I don't know how to use the rom patcher js to sonic 3D blast dc can someone here help me here please and also I don't know how to play sms port of tails adventure
@four-en-tee
@four-en-tee 7 месяцев назад
This spreadsheet is proof that Sonic the Fighters is a flawless game that can't be improved on :kekw:
@experienceevents6951
@experienceevents6951 9 месяцев назад
This was fucking amazing. I’d love a fan game compilation video like this too
@Pariah6950
@Pariah6950 9 месяцев назад
Check my 30 Awesome Sonic Fan Games video.
@CosmicSponge2004
@CosmicSponge2004 4 месяца назад
You didn’t tell me the best way to play Sonic's Schoolhouse Also SA2's Dreamcast Rail Physics and the ability to race 8 Chao isn't availible in any mods. Not a huge dealbreaker but useful to mention The Xbox Version of Sonic Heroes has higher quality FMVs so that version is absolutely a better emulation choice than Dolphin for those who can access Xbox Emulators
@PieStudios
@PieStudios 9 месяцев назад
Hard disagree on the P06 recommendation here. I get that you want to have the ideal experience on a second or third playthrough, but your first experience with a video game (in my opinion) should be free of modifications and alterations. People playing P06 and not the original is how we end up with revisionist history
@prof.ironic8226
@prof.ironic8226 9 месяцев назад
Amazing video, reaally helped me with SA 2 Mod recommendations (also, just gonna assume this is before Dream Team)
@kirbaran2039
@kirbaran2039 8 месяцев назад
I recommend checking out "The Epilogue Expansion" for Sonic 1 Forever made by Karl, DeltaConduit and other people. It adds Mighty, Ray and SO much more customization
@kirbaran2039
@kirbaran2039 8 месяцев назад
@@Ponki8 I think DeltaConduit's work is alright
@ChevySamk
@ChevySamk 9 месяцев назад
this mf plays p06 on letterbox mode HAH
@SuperChrim
@SuperChrim 8 месяцев назад
A mod for generations that you may or may not be on board with is Sonic Generations Redux. It's an improvement mod that tweaks a lot of things like lighting, physics, moveset, camera, sounds, and music. It's a lot of changes so I do understand if you think you don't get the core Generations experience playing it. But after playing with redux a lot, it's hard for me to go back to base generations. Especially with the zoomed out camera and extra jump height for Classic Sonic stages.
@GetemNewellRules
@GetemNewellRules 9 месяцев назад
Colors might be outdated in January with Project Re-Rainbow
@thewrathofrevan5999
@thewrathofrevan5999 8 месяцев назад
Saving this for future reference. I have a pretty big backlog to cover for 2024, so it'll be nice to have some of this on-hand for whenever a Sonic game shows up. Thanks for the list, broski!
@cococroako
@cococroako 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for putting so much effort into informing people who want to experience the best way to play these games. Respect.
@GSPScorp
@GSPScorp 4 месяца назад
*I tried following the instructions for the Sonic CD Decomp and got really confused and gave up ):*
@mr__switch1825
@mr__switch1825 9 месяцев назад
I agree with the beginning statement I got a gaming laptop some time ago. Mostly used it for just Sonic cause I could finally play some of the games I missed and even better than they originally were. Mostly the Wii games and 06. Gens mods are always fun ofc. And Lost World which was fine enough. Unleashed is the only game I don't really wanna play cause it just doesn't work for me. Fortunately I uave an Xbox Series so i'm good with that since I like Unleashed enough in it's base that I don't need any mods or something like Werehog Fury or having all medals. Besides that tho, habing a PC is amazing for Sonic. Especially Sa2 and Gens
@BomKosh1992
@BomKosh1992 5 месяцев назад
I'm not sure if you'll read this, but I've been keeping tabs on your spreadsheet for a while now whenever it gets updated, and yet I can't help but feel like this was intended for returning players instead of newcomers, especially with the inclusion of S1Forever, S2Absolute, SCD Miracle Edition, and Riders DX, which they sort of, if not mostly, deviate from the original experience, and I'm not talking about adding more characters, but rather change a lot of things, if I recall correctly. I'm also surprised that Classic CD Tweaks wasn't mentioned, considering it's sort of like CD Restored, but with more focus on restoring aspects from the original Sega CD game that somehow got lost in translation for the 2011 release. I still wish Tracker would finish his new revision of his "Sonic - Perfect System Collection" guide book, considering it's been obsolete since Frontiers released, but he seems preoccupied at the moment judging from his Twitter account. So for now, this video and spreadsheet will have to do. I also wish that William guy would update his Steam Deck guide, since the modloaders for Sonic Adventures 1 and 2 have been revamped and now require .NET 7, but he might be waiting for Tracker's guide to update as well. Kudos for not recommending BetterSADX, though. I still don't understand why anyone in this day and age would recommend it considering it hasn't been updated since 2021. I blame the Steam Guides.
@lucymorrison
@lucymorrison 9 месяцев назад
"Sonic Riders Zero Gravity is way worse than the original" "do you really wanna play the Werehog levels? Probably not" and I took that personally
@IconPNG
@IconPNG 8 месяцев назад
This is great! I'm trying to get a friend to play the whole franchise. I'd love an update with the Advance Trilogy, Battle, and the so called "Rush Trilogy" to have the definitive way to play almost all Sonic games
@syygnis
@syygnis 8 месяцев назад
8:16 For me Sonic CD with the & Knuckles mod is the best way to play.
@HazeX2
@HazeX2 9 месяцев назад
I like Riders TE because there's an option to keep the CPUs for when friends aren't over, wish you could do that with Regravitified
@brendanblair64
@brendanblair64 9 месяцев назад
There's a Classic Sonic improvement mod for Generations too, and it's so good. It feels pretty close to the Genesis games, and makes the game so much more fun. I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned in this video. I still really liked this! Even if I'm aware of most of this stuff, I get inherent joy from seeing someone talk about cool fan projects.
@Pariah6950
@Pariah6950 9 месяцев назад
I don't have it here because some of the level design breaks due to the altered physics. And I was encountering a lot of bugs using it.
@brendanblair64
@brendanblair64 9 месяцев назад
@@Pariah6950 Really? That's interesting, because I haven't encountered anything like that. I know they even altered some of the level design to accommodate the new physics. Maybe they didn't catch everything, and I just missed all of that.
@lukemayes5007
@lukemayes5007 9 месяцев назад
​@@Pariah6950it is worth giving that mod a replay. In its current state all levels have been modified to work with the new physics. It is not perfect, but it's more satisfying to play than vanilla classic sonic in Generations
@wildberrysherbert3803
@wildberrysherbert3803 9 месяцев назад
@@Pariah6950 You can disable the physics tweaks in the config.
@Pariah6950
@Pariah6950 9 месяцев назад
@@wildberrysherbert3803 Which doesn't entirely work. The jump physics are still changed.
@HazeX2
@HazeX2 9 месяцев назад
Glad Shadow Reloaded was mentioned, I've been meaning to fully play through it for a while, it's looks pretty nice
@AleK0451
@AleK0451 5 месяцев назад
the only mod i wholeheartedly recommend for mania is the removal of the super sonic music, that shit gets grating when you've heard it 50000 times and the level music is pretty much always better
@STikER326
@STikER326 9 месяцев назад
As for Unleashed on Xenia, it can actually be completed on the DirectX rendered despite occasional crashes here and there. It can get VERY annoying on Eggmanland and the final bosses because of those crashes, but it is doable. Also, for Generations, Classic Sonic Improvement mod is a must-have. It changes Classic Sonic's physics to being much more closer to the Genesis games and makes some level tweaks to accommodate those changes. Also the elemental shields become available as regular items in regular levels, there are some toggleable cosmetic differences and so on.
@Kacper42PL
@Kacper42PL 8 месяцев назад
I'm telling y'all, once you get into modding games with QoL stuff it can go into unhealthy habit. Started with modding Minecraft and Sonic Generations years ago and now I can't check out games without checking after a bit if there are any quality of life mods that I'd install instantly lmao. Thanks for the your work with this broski, gonna keep that spreadsheet saved for a long time. Also man, what a shame there's no care for Sonic Battle :(
@Windermed
@Windermed 7 месяцев назад
oh my god same. I went from modding minecraft to Sonic Mania then Fortnite and now I’m into modding Sonic again and the persona games too
@Sydney_Angelyt
@Sydney_Angelyt 9 месяцев назад
If I may add some to Generations Mods - BetterFxPipeline - Configurations Mismatch Fix - Higher Poly Gens Model - HD Icons Codes - Restore Right Stick Camera Controls - Fix Homing Trail Position - Fix Input Delay at Arbitrary Frames (Experimental) - Fix Loading Screen Stutter - Fix Skydive Collision Detection - Disable Super Sonic Floating Boost (Air Boost) - Disable Super Sonic Floating Boost (Ground Boost) ///These two are personal preference but I like Super Sonic lasting longer than 5 seconds, skipping half the level. - Allow Controller Hotplugging - Disable Artificial Loading Times ///Removes Omochao tips but that's not much of a loss.
@Amsel_616
@Amsel_616 9 месяцев назад
You could get a mod that reduces the rings used by Super Sonic (or modify it yourself).
@Sydney_Angelyt
@Sydney_Angelyt 4 месяца назад
@@Amsel_616I just don't like super sonic skipping the level. Although it's a well designed tool with pros and cons, I don't like just skipping the game. That's something I can commend for Sonic Forces for improving.
@saintrazor
@saintrazor 9 месяцев назад
For Sonic Colors, I also recommend checking out Project Re-Rainbow for Ultimate, wich enhances the game's visuals and makes it look much better (more Wii accurate). However, it's still in development.
@prism182
@prism182 8 месяцев назад
you should of mentions the Classic Sonic Improvement Mod for generations, if you didnt know it fixes the physics quite a bit giving classic sonic a good sence of momentom aswell as giving him his classic move set with the peelout and drop dash and the insta shield as an unlockable and it touches up a few of the zones here and there to make classic sonic over all more enjoyable
@TheshowmanZ
@TheshowmanZ 9 месяцев назад
Thank you so much man I have just recently bought a pc and I very slowly got into emulation I have dolphin and a Wii u emulator of the moment but diffently will give most of these a check out ❤
@rando6677
@rando6677 5 месяцев назад
Just saw something cool for Superstars It’s called the Superstars abilities mod it adds stuff like the Insta-Shield, Flight Cancel, A Glide more akin to the Classics for Knuckles
@YisuselPrime
@YisuselPrime 7 месяцев назад
You forgot to add that there is a mod for Classic Sonic from Generations that improves his physics, adds new models for Classic Badniks, Metal Sonic, Death Egg Robot, Dr Robotnik/Classic Eggman, Classic Sonic, Classic Tails and even adds Classic Knuckles in Sky Sanctuary like in Sonic & Knuckles!! Also adds elemental shields as Power Ups in levels, AND IT EVEN ADDS THE SONIC CD PEEL OUT AND THE MANIA DROPDASH!!! You should add it to the spreadsheet or add it to the description, the mod improves Classic Sonic a lot 😁
@LorenzoDoesntExist
@LorenzoDoesntExist 7 месяцев назад
You grouped the SMS 8-bit games together, but Sonic Blast SMS wasn't made by the same team as the others. Most SMS versions were developed simultaneously with the GG by Aspect, but SMS was an afterthought by a different company trying to keep the SMS alive in Brazil. Title cards, Special Stages, some bosses, and some parts of Acts aren't optimized for the SMS screen, so you have thick borders around the image with assets lingering around it. It's already hard enough to tell where the hitboxes are with those giant pre-rendered 3D sprites, and now you have things on-screen there that aren't actually _there._ Worst of all, the gradients and shading necessary for pre-rendered graphics are destroyed by the SMS's limited colour palette. It is absolutely the worst way to play that game. Yeah, the screen might be bigger most of the time, but it's such a slow and juvenile game anyway that you don't really need to see that far ahead like you do with something like 8-bit Sonic 2.
@CuriousGuy_
@CuriousGuy_ 8 месяцев назад
y'know ignoring the creator's shitty attitude on twitter, what do you think of Sonic colors project re-rainbow?
@koolcu1l
@koolcu1l 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for all your work man! Personally i prefer sonic heroes reloaded on the pc to the dolphin version
@daddykarlmarx6183
@daddykarlmarx6183 4 месяца назад
One thing i wish you talked about was if those versions of sonic 1-3 and cd had crt filters, something like sonic manias "crt soft" setting, that's pretty much my make or break feature
@ultimateshadeofwar
@ultimateshadeofwar 9 месяцев назад
Around 19:01 Believe it or not, i found someone that likes the night levels more then the day stages, it's a youtuber call Spontman, he has done some interesting videos of Sonic, i recommend watching then for an interesting opinion at less regarding Unleashed
@elibonham4388
@elibonham4388 9 месяцев назад
Weird i think the day time levels are better but i do still like thr werehog levels
@HyperSonic1999orJTH
@HyperSonic1999orJTH 9 месяцев назад
Awesome vid, now I know about cd me. I created the 7th gen buttons for heroes pc, so thanks for adding my mod to your spreadsheet! I made a few more button mods for heroes pc that use the original legends from the ps2, gc and og xbox versions and they have widescreen revamp support too. I also did one for sa2 that uses the legends from gens ps3, this one was created before hd gui so compatibility needs to be enabled for hd gui to work properly.
@katerina13aar
@katerina13aar Месяц назад
Hi, Pariah! I just wanted to say that Sonic Rush isn't on your spreadsheet and I'd really like to know how to play via emulator 😅
@Rasheed470
@Rasheed470 Месяц назад
Use melonds and search for the rom of it and if the framerate is terrible use retroarch
@BakerLegnds
@BakerLegnds 8 месяцев назад
18:23 i think if they just play the ps2 version on batocera or pcsx2 it would be better
@Pendulum-
@Pendulum- 9 месяцев назад
You should add hd texture packs
@JonyPlayz1
@JonyPlayz1 9 месяцев назад
Great video! This is quite helpful. Would you have tutorials on how to setup some emulators & games for low end PC’s?
@akaithehedgehog
@akaithehedgehog 8 месяцев назад
Let me tell you that for Unleashed don’t bother with Xenia because Xenia needs a beast of a PC I found out the hard way so either play the Generations mods or use RPCS3 the PS3 emulator tho you’ll suffer not great framerates as a cost but there’s a mod or 2 to help with that
@JonyPlayz1
@JonyPlayz1 8 месяцев назад
@@akaithehedgehog Alright thanks!
@TheAnimatedGamer
@TheAnimatedGamer 9 месяцев назад
I will absolutely play unleashed again specifically for the wherebog stages. I just wish there was a mod to turn off the battle music
@Pariah6950
@Pariah6950 9 месяцев назад
It's in the spreadsheet.
@phobosanomaly5383
@phobosanomaly5383 9 месяцев назад
My steam boutta be filled with a blue rat this really cool thanks for making this
@AlexVideoGamesandLongplaysYT
@AlexVideoGamesandLongplaysYT 16 дней назад
Also There Is Sonic Colors Re Rainbow
@gregtom3272
@gregtom3272 9 месяцев назад
i wish there will be a fan PC porrt of sonic heroes " not talking about the PC version " , as i heard that sonic heroes source code was built on top of that of sonic adventure 2 battle , can you imagine the sheer potentiel of having an actuel good PC version of the game in terms modding and changing stage level design , as seen recently in sonic adventure 2 in sonic hacking contest 2023 that expanded so much about the game , so why isn't their a fan decompelation of sonic heroes yet , i don't know
@Knightowl95
@Knightowl95 9 месяцев назад
yea I don't know why the sonic community has done more decomps because decomps will give them more flexibility for mods and u can be ported to other platforms but I guess it's too long of a process for the community to handle, but would love to see a decomp of Heroes Shadow & Unleashed.
@prodnw_0
@prodnw_0 9 месяцев назад
For mania, i recommend a mod called Sonic Mania Addendum, its basically adds new options, adds Amy as an extra characters and you can transform into Miracle forms! It's really cool
@A_Person_64
@A_Person_64 9 месяцев назад
Riders trilogy getting mod support is 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
@dorianlambert4808
@dorianlambert4808 8 месяцев назад
@Pariah6950 Do you have instructions on how to do these things on Linux, especially the Steam Deck?
@zylorixx810
@zylorixx810 8 месяцев назад
Something I want to say for forces is Overclocked mod Sonic forces overclocked i like a 2 hour campaign with new improved levels new bosses and better controls I haven't played it myself but I thought it would be worth mentioning
@Drydoctor-qo5wt
@Drydoctor-qo5wt 6 месяцев назад
I have a question. Can you get most of these mods working on Steam Deck?(I’m mainly interested in CD Miracle Edition, R Improvement Mod, SA1, SA2, Riders DX, and Shadow Reloaded)
@Drydoctor-qo5wt
@Drydoctor-qo5wt 6 месяцев назад
And I know Chaomix has a video on this, but it doesn’t explain modding, just how to get them.
@Drydoctor-qo5wt
@Drydoctor-qo5wt 6 месяцев назад
And I forgot this, but S2 Absolute
@Rasheed470
@Rasheed470 Месяц назад
Yeah you can
@christiantrammell6271
@christiantrammell6271 9 месяцев назад
Sonic rush? Rush adventure? Colors [DS]? DS emulation is already hard to properly recreate [visually]. Id love a widescreen resolution for those games
@ViperAcidZX
@ViperAcidZX 9 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for not only this update for great ways to experience each Sonic game, but also giving us a great spreadsheet to point us in the direction of various mods and fixes for each game too as well as emulation resources for certain games without a native PC version. Speaking of emulation, could I suggest using Genesis Plus GX for the original releases for the 8-bit Sonic games and its spin-offs? This emulator can overclock the CPU for those games and potentially alleviate the frame-rate issues those games had on original hardware and compilations/ports with those games (e.g. Sonic Adventure DX on GameCube and 2004 PC, Sonic Mega Collection+, Sonic Origins Plus). There's also a Sonic Triple Trouble SMS ROM hack by Glitch that turns it into a Sega Master System game with an expanded viewport and stereo sound.
@Pariah6950
@Pariah6950 9 месяцев назад
I already recommend Genesis Plus GX in the spreadsheet. But I've added a not about overclocking the CPU when playing the 8-bit games. Thanks. And the Triple Trouble SMS port is already in there.
@ViperAcidZX
@ViperAcidZX 9 месяцев назад
@@Pariah6950 Thank you. I got a couple of other suggestions for Sonic Heroes's PC version I want to send your way, although part of these recommendations are based on what I used to kinda trim down the amount of mods need to fix things with the PC version of that game. 1. *Icup321's (yes that's the user's handle) version of Console Restoration†* - This version of Console Restoration was updated and tweaked more than the original version by Brandondorf9999 that makes it more closer to the Xbox version while also including the Xbox-quality videos, audio, and FMVs. 2. *E-123 Omega Texture Fix (4X GUI Add-on)* - I noticed this was missing and figured this would also help for 4X GUI users if they're dealing with issues with Omega's textures with the aforementioned mod. 3. *HD Rings* - Improved and higher-ploy rings that not only includes the Heroes style rings but from other rings along with texture styles too. It also includes a fix to remove the LOD to make them render in full detail. 4. *Fixed Voicelines* - This mod fixes some of the missing or blank voice files from the GameCube version. 5. *Cleaner "What I'm Made of"* - This mod cleans up the sound quality of the true final boss's music. †The caveat with this updated version of Console Restoration is that it is sadly not available in a way separate from the game itself and included with the game already. Even though the game's pretty much abandonware, it's up the the player's discretion if they want to find this pre-packed version of the game with the updated Console Restoration. I have used this pre-packaged and I can say it is safe, but does come with a few things for widescreen support and controller support that may not work with Reloaded-II and its mods though they can easily be removed.
@TomTheyy
@TomTheyy Месяц назад
What frame rate issues do the games have in Origins? I can only think of a slight slowdown in S2 CPZ tubes.
@samuelmcl.9474
@samuelmcl.9474 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for this video! You’re awesome. Im a huge Shadow fan so Ill mention Cooler Sonic Plus for Mania and the Shadow mod for sonic 3 air.
@JoMaTo1
@JoMaTo1 9 месяцев назад
I totally disagree with playing the S1 and S2 8-bit remakes instead of originals. The remakes make so many changes, that they feel like half fangames not recreations. Also I personally found the physics to be way worse in the remakes. Totally suggest playing the Master System versions via emulation instead, if you want to see what the games are actually like.
@Pariah6950
@Pariah6950 9 месяцев назад
I used to think the same. But for this video, I played the originals and remakes, back to back. And I do think there is more than enough overlap that playing both feels redundant. So, might as well just play the better versions.
@zachawav
@zachawav 9 месяцев назад
@Pariah695 does having mods on SA1 & SA2 prevent you from obtaining Steam achievements?
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