The Big Come Up: The Black Keys Relive Their Accidental Start

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"We're young and road-ready,” the Black Keys wrote in a letter that accompanied their first recording. It was a bold statement; it was also completely untrue. Watch the band recall the random session that turned into the demo that scored them a record deal in ‘The Big Come Up,’ an exclusive documentary by Rolling Stone Films presented by Patrón.
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@johnprentice1474 4 года назад

"His band never showed up so we just decided to record some shit." Anyone who's ever tried to start a band can relate to this.

@dalejefferson3093 Год назад

You gotta check Samuel Blues - Grunge Blues Psychedelia. He is recording in his bedroom, deep under the radar

@FilipPandrc 3 месяца назад

@@dalejefferson3093 slovenac jebe...predobar je

@liamsmith3138 4 года назад

I love how Dan cringes and decides to leave out the 'naive' part when he's reading out their letter ..

@thomasrainbow 4 года назад

This could of been a 4 hour 4-part doc on Netflix and I would still be enthralled. I remember first hearing The Big Come Up record when it came out and thought Dan was an old black blues man. Incredible music.

@iancostigan5047 10 месяцев назад

Ok dude.. they hate u for saying that.

@pena.3302 8 месяцев назад

Tranquillo..Chill.Too much of a good thing.!-Feel that some have spoke of, [The behind the scenes.!etc."Leave a lil'bit of Mystery.'!]Agree.Also.if you know/buy.The Blk.Keys 'Live.in Sydney .06[?]Its great as theres an xtra.Feat.About How the got started.!&,Its basicly the same as here just more[ here,-'Beck.Led to Radiohead.&,Then Your up there With The Stones.@M.□'Garden'!] but To of Started out.A 2 pce.Lots of Touring playing.!❤Them.Their music.Tempted to add 'Like GARY CLARK Jr.These Guy's Are Keepin.The Blues.'Alive'#&,What 2 ppl can acheive.[Yes its only !]...Brothers.Attk n Relse.Blacrok.'Keep it Hid'.D.Aurebach.1'st.solo.'St Walkin'.But im not that in2 em'..😊😢😮😅 lso

@Iplaynfs1 8 лет назад

i laughed so hard when Pat said he bought drums so a drummer can come over and he can play guitar

@micahamyx 8 лет назад

+Catman He looked kind of bitter about that, haha.

@huntermacdonald6431 6 лет назад

EatingChildAbuse now he’s a kickass drummer lol

@bandwagonDan 5 лет назад

He knew how bands work.

@calebunderhill2456 5 лет назад

That's the worst part about being a drummer. Hauling your stuff around

@natewebb8106 Год назад

I did the same thing only it was so my buddy who could play drums would have a set and a place to play them, as he had neither lol. Unintended side effect was I taught myself how to play, seeing as how they were setup and just sitting there and the person I bought them to play on was flakey

@coleemmersonhallman5329 7 лет назад

"Dan was so good that I... Got sent over to the drum kit."

@ChewbaccaLikesMC 7 лет назад

Cole Emmerson Hallman He looked so sad about it lol

@smith8281 7 лет назад

Jonathan Amendola haha that's what I was thinking

@MrBluoct 4 года назад

Cole Hallman 🤘

@pocketpicker6613 3 года назад

He also got part of his pinkie cut off

@aaronflorian8150 5 лет назад

“A killer, bluesy Midwest two-piece duo who aren’t the white stripes” Lmao

@marlopaniro4447 3 года назад

😁

@tezzrterry7485 3 месяца назад

Yeah well, how are the Stripes going these days?

@JacksonDeshazo 2 месяца назад

@@tezzrterry7485Jack White is doing pretty damn good for himself

@tezzrterry7485 2 месяца назад

@@JacksonDeshazo Yeah I like both acts, but I don't think they are similar at all.

@michael.cschrubbe5879 26 дней назад

@@tezzrterry7485DAMN STRAIGHT!!

@jjmadrid23 5 лет назад

Dear Dan’s band, Thanks for not showing up that one day. Sincerely, The Black Keys fans

@jjmadrid23 5 лет назад

I like Pat’s nonchalant attitude: Dan: Hey I want to play the guitar, can you play the drums? Pat: Sure. Dan: Can my band and I use your equipment to record some stuff? Pat: Sure. Dan: I’m going to send this demo out? Pat: Sure.

@theCrimsonCollects 4 года назад

LOL! Accurate.

@maniackyjr 4 года назад

Pat is more chill than an Ice-e

@leinardesteves3987 2 года назад

But also Dan: wanna tour? Pat: no, hiatus

@Brotelho 6 месяцев назад

@@Marie-qv6on 2024, releases a new single to an upcoming album.

@Maxfilms99 8 лет назад

I was distracted the whole time by how well-directed this was. Loved it.

@faithfulslavepedro9501 8 лет назад

love your profile picture :)

@Maxfilms99 8 лет назад

Melih Vural holy wow bless you friend!!

@SHEMAGK Год назад

They were born for this .. this was no random accident. They are truly gifted

@ma-tv3207 4 года назад

4 star review :The Black Keys 2 star review : Good Charlotte Lmfao

@mickdanger1434 7 лет назад

God damn this documentary was filmed so well

@brutallyremastered4255 7 лет назад

Jemaine Clement No need for the swearing, Jermaine, Jeez. Kia ora though.

@tofuamour 8 лет назад

Pat's dad saying "holy shit", awesome lol

@thomasrainbow 4 года назад

He probably got him into blues!

@jonnyogy2872 4 года назад

@jesus ocando I love it, he is totally being himself! Encourages the best out of people when you are yourself

@MattEyesOn 8 лет назад

Thank GOD Dan's bar band never showed up...

@willschaumann3814 8 лет назад

I bet they wish they did now lol

@firstnamelastname-ct7nr 8 лет назад

ditto...

@dannypots 6 лет назад

The turning point.

@thomasrainbow 4 года назад

THAT. Right there is a huge learning lesson. Things that may seem "bad" or things that seem like they are "going wrong" are most of the time just redirecting you to something better if the light you're shining is positive.

@matthewhorizon6050 4 года назад

Life is a trip. Everything can change w one minor flake job.

@mikeblanc5391 3 года назад

I’m a 67 year old Akron native. I knew this band’s name and they were homeys but never took time to hear them. Just figured, how good could it be, you know? My son got us tickets to the Turn Blue tour performance in Gund Arena, so I had about a 3 month wait and started listening and buying their vinyl, backwards till I had everything. I was floored how good these fellas are and by the time the show happened, I knew all their music. The show was one of the best I’ve ever seen. And I go back to The Concert for Bangladesh, Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars, The Who playing Tommy with James Taylor and The James Gang openers. Thanks, son!

@juliewilson9002 Год назад

I'm 52 and just tuned into TBK recently. I can totally relate, have downloaded several albums already and plan to know all of their music. They are of another time, I feel grateful to have finally tuned in...

@Oh_JUTURNA Год назад

Man, would love to see Turn Blue live.

@evetsiksatu 9 лет назад

This may be the best thing the internet has ever produced

@jaesolo8834 9 лет назад

I can listen to them every moment of every day.

@dirtywater5336 9 лет назад

Jae Solo I pretty much do. I play records when I get home form work and I'll almost always end it with an older Black Keys Album. Just can't get over the raw and unpolished sound they had.

@SHEMAGK Год назад

Sameeeee

@omaraaron6973 8 лет назад

Damn i love the old Black Keys this is so beatiful.... I wish one day they come back to the blues, this is a jewel.

@RhythmGrizz 6 лет назад

Omar Aaron ... they never stopped playing blues

@fastony9659 7 лет назад

Dude, thus was legit. Loved every second of it. We need a full on docu about their life, records, and current. Also, I feel like no enough people say this; thank you, so much Mr. Patrick Boissel, for giving two nobodies a chance.

@alloneword154 8 лет назад

Back to the basement I go

@RhythmGrizz 6 лет назад

alloneword154 yep. Me too.

@andrewr7982 6 лет назад

I'm a drummer, I need a guitar player

@anthonyperez1698 6 лет назад

Bojo David im a guitarist looking for a drummer

@TimFitzwater 9 лет назад

I remember some pretty fun nights in that basement after the bar was closed. We'd all just pick up an instrument and drunkenly jam. Still can't believe how big they got.

@thomasrainbow 4 года назад

Ha hell ya. Thanks for sharing. Those are the golden moments with friends.

@jtheprospector.1458 2 года назад

One of the greatest bands in modern rock history 🤘🤘 The keys are rock legends.

@jorgec.3698 4 года назад

I was introduced to the BK's by a co-worker at our college's library where I used to work over a decade ago. Need to find that dude and thank him again.

@WaliG 8 лет назад

Have a passion for sound, audio recorder, jam with friends, make a tape, send hand written letter and demo to multiple record labels. Tour. Aim to sell 500-records in a month. Make music videos. Get into Rolling Stone ...And that is how to create a band business. Good stuff.

@chazmichael7967 7 лет назад

24 hipsters didn't hear about The Black Keys until Gold on the Ceiling

@siri-onrefusee1520 7 лет назад

or turn blue

@joachimnicolas6795 7 лет назад

Fucking true ...

@psynon6750 7 лет назад

sadly thats true

@brunoramirez2602 7 лет назад

Have you seen the comments in Turn Blue? Its full of Hipsters talking about how mainstream or underrated the band is and which genre is it based on their vas music knowladge. Wtf happend?

@DeadFlowers69 7 лет назад

When I first heard them, I thought they were ripping off the White Stripes. Then, they put out "Attack and Release" with Danger Mouse and was like "hmmm, this is interesting. Good stuff". So I went back and listened to the old stuff and realized I had been wrong. Though rooted in the blues, they always had their own thing. Great band all around. Long live the Black Keys.

@liquidsolids9415 3 года назад

Saw them in a small club in 2004. Freakin’ awesome!

@jdcrow6 5 месяцев назад

What amazes me is that they keep coming out with great music. I love bands that never stop producing great music. Most bands had a time they were great and live off of those songs for ever. It's rare that greatness can continue this long. So many great songs.

@Scyber_Official 4 года назад

I was lucky enough to work as a stagehand directly under their stage manager when they played The Bradley Center (RIP) in Milwaukee in September, 2014. Got to meet the whole band and crew, everyone was friendly and down to earth. One of the most memorable concerts I've worked.

@matthewhorizon6050 4 года назад

The Big Come Up is one one the most badass raw rock-blues albums ever. Last month I saw/heard a car full of college kids bumping Thickfreakness and it made me feel better about our youth!

@graysonsargeant 2 года назад

Makes me so happy to see some people from Akron make it big in the music industry. Especially with their roots to blues and jazz music. Reminds me of Elvis the way he would blend genres and cultures. Love y’all work keep it up for us in the 330.

@ohiomike204 2 года назад

Their music appeals to people of all age groups. Wonderful to see fellow Akronites make it.

@Axeheavy322 4 года назад

“It basically sounds like we’re huffing gas-in a good way.”

@grabasandwich 4 года назад

Did you watch them on Rogan's podcast yet? It's awesome, and Pat's like a natural comedian. I think I'll watch it again.

@mma1st105 4 года назад

Grab A Sandwich Did you catch Sturgill and his band on Rogan? He's awesome chech him out if not already. Peace

@gregphillips2827 4 года назад

This album still holds up. Also, I wish they’d go back to being a two-piece.

@Benjabola 4 года назад

The Black Keys are the best band I have heard in a long time.

@jimmynikriket848 7 лет назад

If there's ever a movie to be made about the The Black Keys, Jake Gyllenhaal should play Dan Auerbach and Ed Helms as Patrick Carney.

@iv0rysh0es39 7 лет назад

Jesse Eisenberg as Pat?

@jotagalvan 7 лет назад

Nice combo tho

@jjmadrid23 7 лет назад

Peter Page but Jake is too tall

@dougthealligator 6 лет назад

Dans gotta be Alan Tudyk. They could be brothers

@larrycampos346 6 лет назад

holy shit HAHAHAH yup!

@OKOYA66 7 лет назад

they make it look like a walk in the park

@bobjob3456 7 лет назад

They're the only band I've seen that didn't have to work for the success... and that's good, that's how it should be... just play those magic sounds, and that's all she wrote.

@lebrawnjames23 7 лет назад

You do realize that they recorded and toured non-stop for 10+ years to get where they are now, right?

@mcblahflooper94 6 лет назад

lebrawnjames23 true, major label representation gets you squat if you don’t start working at it right then

@thomasrainbow 4 года назад

@@lebrawnjames23 Hard work pays off!

@flugplatz21 4 года назад

@@lebrawnjames23 The Keys hadn't played a single gig when they got their record deal. From the outside, that looks easy. The ten years started after they were signed.

@masonwhite9781 7 лет назад

I like how they just kind of stumbled into fame.

@anthonykartsev854 3 года назад

They were chosen

@frankburfoot8090 3 месяца назад

I watch this whenever i need inspiration to keep playing music

@elricbro30 6 лет назад

Dope band from humble roots, great story good job guys you deserve it 👍🏽

@adamtesch 9 лет назад

The Black Keys are the best band in the world right now, HUGE fan.

@kbuzz101 9 лет назад

Adam Tesch Amen^^

@Churchaka 9 лет назад

***** Are you into Them Crooked Vultures?

@caelumborn 9 лет назад

Adam Tesch not even close to being the best, and music isn't a competition. if you knew anything about music youd know that

@adamtesch 9 лет назад

Fuck off.

@wilfordbrimley5180 9 лет назад

The black keys will always fuck the world. Bitches.

@LTMCMedia 4 года назад

This shows you how incredible they are as musicians more than anything

@NJA2k8 7 лет назад

Meet Me in the City and The Lengths by them have made me cry a few times listening to them. While on the other hand, I workout to Your Touch and Heavy Soul. They can do both. Great band.

@rubaneitor 6 лет назад

the lengths is such a hidden gem

@Canoeland 5 лет назад

Meet me in the city is a cover

@FuzzyDancingBear 5 лет назад

@@Canoeland thank you, I was going to say that

@DigitalDuelist 4 года назад

Been my favorite band for almost 10 years now. Their story is as incredible as their music!

@HarleyForMayor 9 лет назад

I got introduced to them in 03 or 04, I was in the 7th grade and rubber soul factory changed everything. Glad it worked out for them.

@Vynzent 9 лет назад

The keys are a great story of why you just gotta keep on going, no matter how long it may be until you reach success. My favorite band for a few years now and excited to know what the future will bring as far as their albums. These guys are the real deal, as a band as as individual solo musicians. Dan's got great guitar work and Pat's got a very different vibe, a very great drummer.

@RWM0000 7 лет назад

I remember when I first heard these guys. A young security guard (who was also a blues fan) told me about them. I guess about the time they released Attack and Release. I went home and went on RU-vid and spent the next 2 hours listening and then bought all their albums. They are the real deal for sure. Such great songwriting and playing.

@nemosthebandit Год назад

Saw these guys live in Phoenix 3 days ago and I hope they never stop making music. Stellar group. Dan’s old band are probably still playing the bar scene as “Dan’s Old Band”.

@UnknownUPO 9 лет назад

These cameras are crazy Hi-Res

@matt.pma.kresnaputra5458 9 лет назад

Rolling Stones man...

@andrewh3177 5 лет назад

Welcome to 2018

@D4rdar 9 лет назад

Love the The Black Keys, just wished I'd found out about them much earlier, it would of been great to hear some of their earlier songs in concert! Found out about them around the release of Brothers but it was actually Girl Is On My Mind that was the first song I heard and I got Rubber Factory and then just bought everything else they did For me: Rubber Factory Thickfreakness Chulahoma Brothers The Big Come Up Magic Potion El Camino Attack & Release Turn Blue But I enjoy them all

@capnmo6718 9 лет назад

D4rdar I agree with Rubber Factory - it's my favourite, too. Great album.

@OsirisT 9 лет назад

D4rdar Girl is on my mind is my Favorite song Tooo!!

@Michael_talks_ Месяц назад

These two have amazing chemistry

@JakeSansom 6 лет назад

The best band ever, I admire their music taste and they have truly influenced me growing up. They are and will continue to be my favourite group ever, and someday I hope to show my children them.

@TMCLIFTON100 7 лет назад

My sons and I have always been very close, but the Keys and their music created a bond between us that is deeper than I could possibly explain with words..Watching my sons freak out on the Black Keys at their Charlotte show is one of my greatest moments in life...Thank you Dan and Pat...

@michellevelotta5152 9 лет назад

Saw them September 2014 in Cleveland Ohio - hands down one of the best concerts I've ever experienced! Keep it comin' guys!!

@runthejudes 7 лет назад

Am I the only one who loves every one of their albums? I know El Camino is at the point where people thought they were selling out, but some of my favorite tunes were on that album, and I really loved the Pink Floyd-ish feel of Turn Blue. Favorite band of all time.

@nastyj9216 6 лет назад

“They weren’t like rock stars, they were just sweaty boys driving around the country with a bunch of music stuff and Red Bull and cigarette buds” pretty sure she just defined the life of a rock star.

@judybarcenas530 6 лет назад

I first heard the Black Keys on 103.9 the X in San Bernardino. I was a frequent customer of Radio Shack and when I strolled in to make a purchase they had the Black Keys CD on the counter staring at me. I felt so lucky and grabbed one. Love their music.

@Chris.4345 5 лет назад

judy barcenas X103.9 is gone now. :( Or, at least, it’s totally different now.

@jjmadrid23 5 лет назад

I’ll always admire their story and start of their band, it was so organic. It just happened and they never really cared about fame, they just wanted to make good music.

@michaelharding4185 6 лет назад

This is now the third time I've watched this video. I keep coming back to this video. Love it!

@ChickenChipotleSandwich 6 лет назад

these will be the guys my kids will be super into

@otis123405 8 лет назад

So inspiring

@evanm5256 5 лет назад

I always come back to this video man I don't know why but it really inspires me

@shaykitoffe6411 4 года назад

And now they're MILLIONAIRES

@AcmePotatoPackingPocatello 4 года назад

...in a good way

@jonnysaccount1149 4 года назад

@@AcmePotatoPackingPocatello is there a bad way of being millionaires?

@katia60707 7 лет назад

hey you two , you are so sincere in what you write how can you come to know so much about heartache and the blues aahh the blues l personally am addicted to most of your songs i have to just listen to them over and over till i just cant any more (for a short while))))

@raymondnesbitt8751 4 года назад

Seeing this, makes me happy I saw them live here in Pittsburgh! Fell in love with this band the first time I heard them. Quickly became one of my old man and my favorite band

@PescadoAzure 9 лет назад

I had a radio show at a community college in Pennsylvania. One day I saw "The Big Come Up" sitting on top of a stack of other CDs. The description said "Two-piece white-boy blues." I took it home, listened to it with my girlfriend. It was the absolute greatest thing we'd ever heard at the time, and quickly became the soundtrack to our lives throughout college... Thank you so much for making this record, for putting it out there, and for continuing to do what you do.... Awesome documentary too, brought me right back to one of the greatest times of my life

@knlacrosse 9 лет назад

Became a fan about 5 years ago, and finally got to see them this year in Tampa. It was a great concert and one I hopefully can be a part of again.

@MrTrackday101 3 месяца назад

Saw them at the Southgate house in Newport KY. Always amazing to watch.

@charlesacrosbyify 3 года назад

A friend of mine gave me the big come up and I wore the disc out been a fan ever since thank you man from Texas

@danielledavis57 3 года назад

This was the best goddamn story! They seem a bit shy & so humble. I live 4 there music, im so i love!!

@brianwoodworth6531 4 года назад

Just saw the black keys nov 8th in Raleigh. One of the best shows I have seen.

@SamOfftharecord 8 лет назад

The Black Keys kick major ass man! This made me so excited.

@palmdale20ful 5 лет назад

My Favorite Band of all-time.

@blakejacobsonV 2 года назад

Dude fuck yes I love hearing stories like this

@randyriggs5457 4 года назад

I saw these guys on Joe Rogan last week...they're my new favorite band!! Love their story too!!

@aafisher100 4 года назад

I think Pat talked non stop for the whole 3.5 hrs lol

@ernestodeavila8076 3 месяца назад

Saw Black Keys for first time at ACL Fest in 2003ish?? Student newspaper A&E editor UT-San Antonio "The Paisano" . I had photo pass, took some amazing photos, one of my faves is my icon for RU-vid profile (Upper right corner if you want too look) was blown away. some how ended up in the artiists lounge area drinking beers with Dan and showing him my pictures of them.

@jabrobean8927 3 года назад

so awesome dude... soooo unbelievably awesome...!!! thanks!

@gibgabs2899 6 лет назад

I’m so pissed that I just found them!! And so happy that I did at all!!!

@dashandthedots5894 9 лет назад

Nice job, love this band, first heard them on Sirius on a long drive to Northern Manitoba. We saw them play a show at the MTS Centre in Winnipeg, the entire audience was on their feet and dancing for the whole show. The most fun I've ever had at a concert!

@Ireland831 2 года назад

To me, one of the great musical accidents. Duo that plays like this is insane. TModelFord, RL Burnside...fuk yeah. The Black Keys have some incredible songs. Bravo boys...Big fan.

@t.sewell1513 6 лет назад

I damn near shyt myself when I first heard this album!!

@alexanderpanayi7212 4 года назад

Amazing story

@scottrussell9852 9 лет назад

You are an inspiration guys. You made me the musician I am today.

@theNickRYG 4 года назад

I saw this 3 years late but i needed to see it. I'm not dropping out of school, but i AM dropping anything in my life unrelated to pursuing those happy accidents. I'm "dropping out" of everything not related to creating.

@JT-un7dc 4 года назад

Stay regular and keep dropping out those happy accidents. ;)

@SteveShaha 7 лет назад

Such an awesome band.

@krisinsaigon 3 года назад

wow, i actually remember that Rolling Stone review, it was why i first bought a Black Keys album i was traveling in cambodia and the guest house i was in had an old copy of Rolling Stone and i read that review, had never heard of them before, and the next time i saw one of their CDs for sale i remembered it and bought it and did not regret it, interesting to hear it was important to them too

@NickJardine 7 лет назад

Very inspiring story!

@mikegraves1000 5 лет назад

Luck, connections and hard work is a beautiful thing IF you have the talent.

@thomasrainbow 4 года назад

I agree! Start with hard work, make the connections and let luck fall into place.

@ShallowEnds 7 лет назад

much respect & love for The Black Keys

@user-er6qz5qm7o 7 лет назад

my fav band!

@scottmoot2969 6 месяцев назад

I saw you open for a Pink Floyd cover band at Akron Civic Theatre, and our minds were blown in a few notes

@billyhughes9776 7 лет назад

Pretty amazing story right there.

@samuelbos2924 7 лет назад

Love the style!

@simonplimbley5778 4 года назад

How good was that .... love the bluesy sound so much 👍🎸

@skeletonshorror5184 3 года назад

Great documentary, that record will hold up forever.

@hallamalla98 8 лет назад

The Black Keys actually has a very interesting story, not many bands or artists has that. Rodriguez has quite the story though, but I can't think of many other bands that has such a good story to tell!

@noneofyourbusiness1114 7 лет назад

BeardedButtCrack jay rearard

@hallamalla98 7 лет назад

none of your business "rearard"?

@thomasrainbow 4 года назад

@Anthony Vercek Looking forward to Flea's book! "Acid For The Children"!

@bainzeyboy 9 лет назад

2:16 - Do The Rump, what an absolute belter of a song

@abstractpoet8977 9 лет назад

Thickfreakness, Rubber Factory and Magic potion are some of the rawest rock albums our generation has to offer. Although it all sounded the same, and they weren't really progressing with their music. Brothers changed it up a bit and I never would have found them without it. El Camino was their biggest let down for me and this is probably what people are talking about when they talk about the band "selling out." But Turn Blue was a great attempt at experimenting with their sound and has me anxious to see what's next for them.

@jacksonpage1580 9 лет назад

Bobby Lee Swagger Finally, a comment with some thought. And it's from Bobby Lee Swagger. You hear that, guys? Bobby Lee Swagger wrote a smarter comment than you!

@headspace261 9 лет назад

Bobby Lee Swagger I agree with you. Turn Blue was definitely leaning towards a more pop sound, but I still like it. It will be interesting to see what direction they go with their next one.

@jacksonpage1580 9 лет назад

***** I don't think it was really a poppier sound. I think El Camino was a poppier sound. Turn Blue was just not raw and heavy. There's a difference between not hard/raw and pop.

@micahamyx 9 лет назад

Bobby Lee Swagger El Camino is no way close to selling out, it sounds awesome.

@abstractpoet8977 9 лет назад

***** I REALLY hated Fever. Makes me wanna take sandpaper straight to the vinyl. Weight of Love, Bullet in the Brain, and In Our Prime give me goosebumps though. Micah Amyx If you listen to the progression of their albums it's pretty obvious where they start pandering to a wider audience lol That's not at all to say that El Camino sucked. It's got some really catchy tunes; I've just got higher hopes for these guys.