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The big CRYO NERF in ARK Survival ASCENDED 

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Yesterday the beta for ARK Survival Ascended went live that included the new and nerfed cryopods. He we get a glimpse of all changes that are included in ark survival Ascended soon.
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@Monkeypuzzle
@Monkeypuzzle 8 месяцев назад
The cryo mod we are currently using has configs to not allow uncryoing in caves, so I don't know why vanilla cryopods cannot be like that. Just allow us to uncryo anywhere but caves, then fridge spam will be a non issue.
@SycoPlays
@SycoPlays 8 месяцев назад
Would ruin the point of the changes… most pvp players don’t like pocket gigas etc, which isn’t limited to caves
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
because caves arent the only reason why these were nerfed
@Monkeypuzzle
@Monkeypuzzle 8 месяцев назад
@@SycoPlays I play pve exclusively and they are not a problem there.
@Monkeypuzzle
@Monkeypuzzle 8 месяцев назад
@@TiiaAurora no but once again pvp will be why we can't have nice things in pve, unless WC really just wants us to have to run every tame across the map. I understand the immersion of that, but it's yet another time sink.
@SycoPlays
@SycoPlays 8 месяцев назад
@@Monkeypuzzle yea, but caves aren’t a problem for pve either? So just removing cryoing in caves doesn’t help anyone.
@FatFrogsSwamp
@FatFrogsSwamp 8 месяцев назад
As a PvE player I was looking forward to using cryopods to transport tames to the obelisks for boss fights. Now, I am going to have to drop down a mini base, probably on a racer at each ob if that works. I worry about base spam on my server around the obelisks and caves.
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
Once you have the transmitter you can start bosses from there. that should help a little
@reverenddick8562
@reverenddick8562 8 месяцев назад
Or go old skool and tame a Quetzel.
@LuluGamingDK
@LuluGamingDK 8 месяцев назад
You only have to do the boss fight a few time from an obolisk. After you done that fight you're unlocked the transmitter. Then just do the boss fight from the transmitter.
@FatFrogsSwamp
@FatFrogsSwamp 8 месяцев назад
I guess I am more worried about cryofridge spam around the obelisks for others. I’m the admin, so it’s my problem. 😁
@shatteredyoshi
@shatteredyoshi 8 месяцев назад
As a single player, this doesn't affect me too much. I've been enjoying the change in playstyle with not being able to pop out a pocket dino anywhere I want. Still wish there was a vanilla option for single player to turn off cryo cooldown that wasn't PvE mode
@arnobeck
@arnobeck 8 месяцев назад
I think they should remove the range limitation and the cryo timer after damage for PVE, or we will have a lot of cryofridge outposts all around the servers, especialy on official.
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
That might get wiped then. At least when its blocking people
@scuzzyuk412
@scuzzyuk412 8 месяцев назад
@@TiiaAurorawe can’t even get admins on the server to unblock caves that are already blocked now with large dinos, we literally cannot enter swamp cave on our server, devs are not gonna come and delete fridge boxes all day every day
@mrblandin6179
@mrblandin6179 8 месяцев назад
I 100% agree with you and I'm a PVP player I honestly don't think you should be able to throw out a hundred gigs at the front door of someone's base you should have to March them across the map true survival
@bonefat21
@bonefat21 8 месяцев назад
I was kind of hoping that cryopods wouldn't be useable in caves, and this accomplishes that.
@dextervine468
@dextervine468 7 месяцев назад
As a PvE player I was looking forward to being able to take dinos to a friends base for a breeding session.. We used to do this on PvE and whoevers base it was had to organise a sort of gift pack for each player after the breeding was done.. This brought everyone together, but now it's not a thing and we'll remain distanced.. Should at least allow us to set our cryofridges to allow allies or others to uncryo by using them
@XixNoExiX
@XixNoExiX 8 месяцев назад
That hive background gives me big Mindustry vibes, coincidence?
@BlackReshiram
@BlackReshiram 8 месяцев назад
i gotta admit i AM a little sad that we cannot uncryo anywhere easily anymore because it was just very convenient and im lazy, but i do understand why these changes were made and in the grand scheme of things i dont think over long that itll be that big of an impediment to me or anyone else
@Ravenoffaith
@Ravenoffaith 5 месяцев назад
Okay, but these were released during Extinction, where you had to travel to OSD's for loot. It is going to be so much more painful to transport creatures when that drops.
@darkbazerker2206
@darkbazerker2206 8 месяцев назад
Big reason why im staying on evolved as a solo player, but there is some ini settings to turn these back so well wait and see.
@markgatty
@markgatty 8 месяцев назад
question. can i place a cryofridge on a quetzal to make it easier to bring dinos to a boss fight?
@scuzzyuk412
@scuzzyuk412 8 месяцев назад
Yes you can, and everyone will, platform saddles will be spammed everywhere and it’ll tank server performance
@TheAp0calyps3
@TheAp0calyps3 8 месяцев назад
The bigger problem I see here is when transfering (when available) to other servers that aren't the ones you normaly play, you wont be able to use throw your creatures out unless you bring a generator and a cryofridge to be able to unpod them, and not just that, is the possibility of being able to even put it down to be able to use it, for me is non sense the releasing creatures restrictions, caves I understand for difficulty propuses, but for transporting your creatures Somewhere for a special task doesnt make sense
@brecoursley5521
@brecoursley5521 8 месяцев назад
Time to make a quetzal outpost
@WalterEKurtz-kp2jf
@WalterEKurtz-kp2jf 8 месяцев назад
Wildcard are the undisputed kings of how to piss off your community
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
The alternative was "no cryos" :D
@WalterEKurtz-kp2jf
@WalterEKurtz-kp2jf 8 месяцев назад
Or they could have not changed anything 😅 , I don't play pvp so it's just sort of annoying to me
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
@@WalterEKurtz-kp2jf yea cryos were always in a weird position and there was a discussion to not bring them back. At least we dont have that going now
@WalterEKurtz-kp2jf
@WalterEKurtz-kp2jf 8 месяцев назад
@@TiiaAurora I just want my soul gun and soul balls back 😭
@scuzzyuk412
@scuzzyuk412 8 месяцев назад
The way I see it, other tribes progression in PvE does not effect your gameplay at all, so who cares if caves might be abit easier, if you don’t like it don’t use cryos, people are so worried about everyone else’s gameplay and for what
@jimrizzy
@jimrizzy 8 месяцев назад
Hopefully they come in as originally for pve. Pve official will suck.... its already hard to find land to build... now everyone's and they momas will be making cryo fobs everywhere
@Erzimion
@Erzimion 7 месяцев назад
Agree with you. Caves for that have smaller entrances to challenge the player. But some dudes go to caves and deploy T-Rex for example and the cave was easy... really?!
@patrickbateman69420
@patrickbateman69420 8 месяцев назад
I completely agree with you, the changes make them better and aren't game-breaking. Cryopods shouldn't be used in cheesy ways and this prevents that. All round good 👏
@rhettbutler5397
@rhettbutler5397 8 месяцев назад
Btw, you don't need foundations to place cryo fridges
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
In my testing it needed them 🤔
@rhettbutler5397
@rhettbutler5397 8 месяцев назад
@@TiiaAurora Very weird. It worked earlier and it worked liked that in Survival Evolved too
@stevenmott1713
@stevenmott1713 8 месяцев назад
Any testing on if being near an Ally's activated fridge will work?
@LuluGamingDK
@LuluGamingDK 8 месяцев назад
I really do enjoy the changes. I can see a lot of people thinking that this will allow them to take tames into caves on pve and it's not going to. I don't think people realize how small the Circle actually is considering most caves have a no build range On PVE. So at the end of the day they are strictly just for storage And transport.
@herbapou
@herbapou 8 месяцев назад
the question is , can it by carry by a quetzal
@huxm5259
@huxm5259 8 месяцев назад
Its shocking how short sighted the developers are. I cannot believe that they are implementing these changes knowing that they will get changed after people exploit and spam and cause problems that are obvious within seconds of learning about the new mechanics. Amazing how a development team can't understand how their game is played at all.
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
This is a beta.
@daily_quiz_shorts
@daily_quiz_shorts 8 месяцев назад
It can be easily fixed. Only one cryofridge per tribe allowed, so probably everyone will have it at their base and the obelisks works as a cryofridge, which means you can uncryo dinos for boss fights, all problem solved :)
@fruitbatcat
@fruitbatcat 8 месяцев назад
You know most tribes have far more dinos than can fit in one cryo? Unless u mean they have unlimited capacity?@@daily_quiz_shorts
@amile3643
@amile3643 8 месяцев назад
@@daily_quiz_shorts A tribe cap for cryofridges would definitely be a workable fix; assuming they still have a reasonable number of slots. Hell, go further and make sure they can ONLY be placed within a certain radius of each other.
@scuzzyuk412
@scuzzyuk412 8 месяцев назад
All material spawns will have 1x1 boxes with a fridge inside so people can unpod ankys, all beaches or anywhere with ocean access will be claimed in order to unpod water dinos, platform saddle and raft spam will be through the roof causing more server lag and with the range being so damn small I’m just not gonna cryo any of my dinos Because it’s so annoying to get them back out, the range needs to be like 4-5x bigger, it causes so many issues that I would rather people just have an easier time inside caves than make the pillaring issues so much worse
@jermsch05
@jermsch05 6 месяцев назад
I am playing right now on PvE and my dinos are still getting cryosickness
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 6 месяцев назад
Is the server also set to PvE?
@rodneypeterson6649
@rodneypeterson6649 8 месяцев назад
pvp didn't want cryos???????? what are you talking about lol caves are literally unraidable without cryos
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
Just repeating what PvP players told me here in the comments aka "anyone who needs cryos needs to get good in the game"
@rodneypeterson6649
@rodneypeterson6649 8 месяцев назад
@@TiiaAurora sorry to break it to you but no amount of skill helps me fit a Dino through a cave like ice or pack
@GreenerOdin
@GreenerOdin 8 месяцев назад
Agreed, the changes improve the PVE mode too.
@yanklugo
@yanklugo 8 месяцев назад
Is it normal when u cryo a dino for it to drop everything in his inventory?
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
yes
@EJFM-vs7mo
@EJFM-vs7mo 8 месяцев назад
Tbh this nerf is trash, the only good thing is for base defense, specially cave defense because now your enemies can't throw stegos near your base anymore, so it's a big W for cave bases only, Aberration Shadow Cave will be invincible fr
@ankhneter
@ankhneter 8 месяцев назад
All these decisions with cryos and lack of configuration options just fortifies why Dino Storage was so much more superior to cryos and why I always disabled cryos on my servers and opted for Dino Storage. I get they don't want you cheesing the caves, but a simple toggle of EnableCaveRelease=false would fix that along with a bunch of other options to prevent abuse if the server owners wanted. Maybe they should look at what modders have done to improve their game for them instead of reinventing the wheel....or are we on another 7 year journey of bad decisions all for the sake of PVP because they focus more on that aspect of the game and lump PVE into the same group of settings instead of making it global settings for both aspects of the game.
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 7 месяцев назад
But we got full configuration options
@moozoowizard
@moozoowizard 8 месяцев назад
The biggest impact to me is being able to bring Dino's into caves. I play solo on my own one person servers. That now means doing them on foot with guns and rockets solo where a single death had a very high chance of losing everything. I think I wait for feroxes being in the game before playing again.
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
You can also install a mod?
@moozoowizard
@moozoowizard 8 месяцев назад
@@TiiaAurora I know. But I play official server pvp settings. With very few exceptions since I want to experience the game as if I was playing solo on one. But without the crushing griefing. Exceptions being for example unlimited skill and attribute resets because I'd never be able to craft the type of equipment a tribe would have on official. And that's a requirement for boss fight saddles. No harvest boost or taming boost. But half maturation time and double imprint %. Since one person breeding many generations of yuties, gigas etc would be impossible while having a full time job. From memory a batch takes four days but only two days (weekend) to imprint.
@chrisdavison4915
@chrisdavison4915 8 месяцев назад
You said you play solo no? Add the mod no sickness an can throw all out
@fruitbatcat
@fruitbatcat 8 месяцев назад
On official and unofficial pve servers ppl are breeding dinos inside caves to use. This is cheesing yes, but it a common method and was widespread before cryos came out. (Hatch / birth them outside and get them to follow u in to a safe spot to mature.)
@moozoowizard
@moozoowizard 8 месяцев назад
The reason is to have a comparative sense of achievement.
@trinityharris8823
@trinityharris8823 8 месяцев назад
Why not just give all creatures cryo- sickness based off their drag weight or something? The cryo fridge radius requirement thing is a real downer for single players and PVE players.
@Ibsmokin
@Ibsmokin 8 месяцев назад
Essentially making them base only items. Garbage. Just make them tek tier again and do the enemy foundation thing for pvp. Caves should be hard but they should not remain the same difficulty for endgame players as low level new players.
@Urbanninja43
@Urbanninja43 8 месяцев назад
I hold to the thought that the cryopod should stay a tek item, it doesn't fit the aesthetic of its spot (why would I know how to make a pod that absorbs a dinos essence before I could make a canteen??) So you could make it unlockable after your first boss fight (with the tek replicator and such) or even after the gamma dragon, if they wanted to make it so atleast your first run through of every cave was ran without the use of cryo pods (not necessary tho)
@andreheise1170
@andreheise1170 8 месяцев назад
Most of the players have never fought a boss in Ark. If cryopods were a tek item, most people players couldn't store their dinos. And therefore the server cap on tames would always been reached.
@SimoSmk
@SimoSmk 8 месяцев назад
That's a horrible idea
@APH3343
@APH3343 8 месяцев назад
With how Babies HP ticks can you cryo babies? I play official pve and have been bronoto spammed. I am hopping it need to be your own/ally fridge that you can unpod from.
@fruitbatcat
@fruitbatcat 8 месяцев назад
Get screenshots and co-ords and report them, they will get removed.
@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique
@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique 8 месяцев назад
Ark survival ascended ps5 vs ark survival evolved updated nintendo switch
@Urbanninja43
@Urbanninja43 8 месяцев назад
All these nerfs and stuff (cryopod changes, rhynio nerfs, etc) it they were meant to balance pvp, why could they make them all PVP specific? Like whats wrong with leaving PVE the way it is? Like i play on my own 100% of the time, who am I gonna run up on with a rhynio carrying stegos? What players am I uncryoing a giga around to raid? I'm just tryna progress and chill with my dino peeps
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
those changes now are also aimed for PvE. The goal is to not have player skip certain things in the game cause they have pocket dinos.
@Urbanninja43
@Urbanninja43 8 месяцев назад
@TiiaAurora well yeah true, the cryopod needed balancing, I just thought it'd be better to make the cryopod a tekgram again, unlocked when you unlock the tek replicator (makes more sense progressively speaking) and just have you not able to deploy in caves, open to suggestions for that tho, but the rhyniognatha things feels like it has no real "balancing" purposes for pve, or atleast in single player (or atleast just make it slower when carrying higher drag weight dinos)
@Urbanninja43
@Urbanninja43 8 месяцев назад
@TiiaAurora Love your content btw, I'm just voicing my thoughts, I have no harmful intentions and I know at the end of the day, we really don't have a say in what happens lol
@exo7524
@exo7524 8 месяцев назад
At this point. Pve is gonna be literally full of mini bases with generator and cryofridges everywhere and for pvp you are not able to raid caves, soo now with onse single change wildcard create 2 major problems, pve spam, pvp unraidble caves, very niceeeee
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
I dont get why they didnt disable cave building on PVP
@exo7524
@exo7524 8 месяцев назад
​@@TiiaAurorastrategy purpose, secure artifacts to prevent other tribes to do bosses., without the older cryopods and having Tek to secure they caves everyone in the server are not able to raid them, soo unraidble base spots.
@gglenn7920
@gglenn7920 8 месяцев назад
I'm just going to disable updates before my game is infected with that horrible set of ideas. Many of those changes are just stupid. Almost as if the devs hate the players. This sort of nonsense is exactly what destroyed WoW's popularity.
@philliphopkins6268
@philliphopkins6268 8 месяцев назад
Good video.
@fruitbatcat
@fruitbatcat 8 месяцев назад
I wonder why they didn't just disallow cryos in caves? Now on pve official servers maybe only one tribe will be able to use them in each cave, you can imagine the griefing / arguments that will arise from that. I can guarantee tribes have already pillared above and around all caves just for this purpose today. Or maybe they have removing their use in caves already in mind just haven't spelt it out yet.
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
You cant build in caves on PvE
@fruitbatcat
@fruitbatcat 8 месяцев назад
yes but whoever has their pillar currently at cave entrance (pve official) they will get to use the cryos in the cave as they will be able to place a cryofridge very close? I meant they will be putting pillars at cave entrance and any outside terrain where they think 'could' enable the cryos inside. Maybe I just don't get what they mean@@TiiaAurora
@dreadcthulhu6842
@dreadcthulhu6842 8 месяцев назад
​@@fruitbatcatPerhaps the workaround to that will be putting the cryofridge on a platform saddle, so any tribe wanting to do a cave could park a paracer or quetz right outside the cave entrance.
@Apocryph0nics
@Apocryph0nics 8 месяцев назад
Yet another reason to pillar spam...yay
@IntangirVoluntaryist
@IntangirVoluntaryist 8 месяцев назад
They'll probably disable cryos on platforms next, ruining mobile bases
@scuzzyuk412
@scuzzyuk412 8 месяцев назад
Absolutely yea, they will see obelisks covered in a tonne of quetz and just nerf it further
@ItzBroken1
@ItzBroken1 8 месяцев назад
If this update to cryos are true that just confirms to me the devs don’t play their own game
@ItzBroken1
@ItzBroken1 8 месяцев назад
Mindblowing stupidity
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
I actually think its a right step against cheesing content
@ItzBroken1
@ItzBroken1 8 месяцев назад
@@TiiaAurora what cheese? Taking dinos into a cave wasn’t ever a cheese, flyers maybe but even most of those cant enter caves anymore. The only people who would have nothing against this change are single players or people who literally log on to sit in their base all day. People asked for cryos and they gave us some modified bs. If they listened or even playtested their own game this wouldn’t be the case, the same as a lot of the other bugs that have been in the game since ASE
@amile3643
@amile3643 8 месяцев назад
I welcome these changes. 11 foundations feels like it might be bit on the short side, but we'll see how it looks live. Maybe we're able to see this range through a radial menu (like power and water). Like others have said, I'm concerned about fridge spam. I do feel that a tribe cap for fridges, and other baked in placement restrictions should take care of most of these concerns.
@cchariie8212
@cchariie8212 8 месяцев назад
pvp did want cryos…. lol
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
They told me to go "F*ck myself" when I brought up the topic. 🤣
@dabnotic
@dabnotic 8 месяцев назад
These changes are just negative fun for pve players. I hope they put up a poll or something and listen to the majority, but wildcard will never do that. Thats like asking pve and pvp to be balanced seperatly. Too much work.
@clipertun
@clipertun 8 месяцев назад
I don't play PvE but how in the world will PvE players play like this, there will be spam EVERYWHERE
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
I am fine with some dev wipes :D
@clipertun
@clipertun 8 месяцев назад
@@TiiaAurora I’m here for it ✋
@misterbanshee7992
@misterbanshee7992 8 месяцев назад
Everyone should boycott go back to old ark lol
@MandoMTL
@MandoMTL 8 месяцев назад
Don't tell me how to play the game I bought.
@tiffanydashellm760
@tiffanydashellm760 Месяц назад
PVE disagree with you 100%. Your opinion is just that...YOURS. Keep in mind, we CHOOSE how to play because we CHOOSE how to play. Why put restrictions in areas where it doesn't even affect PVP? Why does your audience need to dictate gameplay? It's ridiculous.
@timothyking6256
@timothyking6256 8 месяцев назад
My biggest problem with cryos is just being able to deploy them in caves. Ruins the experience as you can easily cheese your way through a cave on the back of a rex. Although these changes are in the right direction, more need to be made.
@timothyking6256
@timothyking6256 8 месяцев назад
Also, the current changes still have a lot of problems that need fine tunning.
@TiiaAurora
@TiiaAurora 8 месяцев назад
They probably will take in the feedback now and see what changes need to be made
@scuzzyuk412
@scuzzyuk412 8 месяцев назад
In PvP sure I can understand since other tribes progression directly effects your own, but in PvE everyone is playing their own game, if you don’t want to use the easy method then don’t, stop worrying about how everyone else spends their time on PvE
@wrexcelgaming3072
@wrexcelgaming3072 8 месяцев назад
All these changes are going to achieve is having turrets on the Official maps EVERYWHERE as cryo outposts are going to become a thing. The devs clearly does not play the game and have no idea what they are doing atm
@stevieg6616
@stevieg6616 8 месяцев назад
Awful change
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