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It's The Big Score day in Thunder Junction. Originally designed to be an Aftermath-style set, The Big Score ended up moving into the main set and dropping 30 new Standard-legal mythics including Loot, who is apparently the key to everything, a new Lotus, a bunch of wild artifacts and more! Oh yeah, we also get the rest of the Breaking News sheet including an $80 reprint and a couple final main set cards. Let's discuss!
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0:00 Start
2:00 Loot, the Key to Everything
6:15 Esoteric Duplicator
11:19 Substitute Synthesizer
14:32 Legion Foundry
17:11 Omenpath Journey
20:50 Pest Control
24:28 Memory Vessel
27:52 Worldwaker Helm
31:17 Lotus Ring
34:53 Rest in Peace
35:41 Grand Abolisher
37:25 Breaking News
43:13 Dust Animus
45:49 High Noon
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@HouseFullaFrogs
@HouseFullaFrogs 2 месяца назад
So slight correction on the Loot lore. Jace actually engineered the events of this set *specifically* to get Loot himself out of there. He had been to Thunder Junction while he was working with Tezzeret's infinite consortium and detected a mind inside the vault, but was unable to access it. Years later, he brings it up to Tamiyo while she's on Ravnica post War of the Spark, and she tells him that these vaults are scattered throughout the multiverse, relics of a multi-planar empire from ages past. She also gives him more information about what's in there, but the story doesn't divulge it to us the readers, so we don't know the deets just yet. As for *why* Jace wants Loot and the multiversal map in his brain? In the fallout of March of the Machine, Jace snaps to consciousness once the oil is silenced, and immediately realizes his body is dying. With what strength he can muster, he planeswalks away to save Vraska, uses mind magic to give them both a fever to hold back the phyresis, and then brings her to his mother's house on Vryn, where she helps put both of them into a coma. They spend a while recuperating while she uses healing magic and phoenix feathers to heal them as she burns out the oil and surgically removes their phyrexian augmentations. Vraska loses her spark in the process, but they ultimately make a recovery. They also learn about the omenpaths, and both of them become seriously concerned. Bolas was able to cause so much trouble with just one portal, and now everywhere is linked to everywhere else. Even with the Phyrexian's gone, there's nothing to stop new extraplanar threats from destroying the lives and stability of those on other worlds. They see this as something horrible they themselves did while under the spell of compleation, and resolve to undo the damage. But first, Vraska needs to be able to get around better than she can currently, and so Jace schemes to go after the map of the multiverse. Overall the epilogue is beautifully written, and Jace and Vraska see this as them adopting Loot. With his help, they want to do to the multiverse what the phoenix feathers did to their bodies: burn away the remnants of phyrexia to regenerate and heal it.
@jonathanarlt9578
@jonathanarlt9578 2 месяца назад
Thank you for distilling the magic lore into one RU-vid comment, genuinely helpful
@SmokeADig
@SmokeADig 2 месяца назад
You’re doing God’s work son.
@Kryptnyt
@Kryptnyt 2 месяца назад
Is there an Omenpath leading to the Meditation Realm?
@magic_claw
@magic_claw 2 месяца назад
@@Kryptnytwe don’t know.
@nightcore4208
@nightcore4208 2 месяца назад
Another big part of Jace and Vraska's motivations from today's story is that they legitimately want to start a family. Vraska jokes that "they would know" if gorgon and humans could have children together so they agree that adoption is really the only possible way for that to happen. I dunno if I agree that kidnapping an ancient tomb baby is the most normal or healthy adoption process but Loot is a cutie and I want Jace/Vraska to be happy
@caseyaldrich6864
@caseyaldrich6864 2 месяца назад
Seth out here just grinding. Videos with the cards up, scripts, almost every day for spoilers plus always on the fish stuff. Respect man, colored me impressed
@Suspinded
@Suspinded 2 месяца назад
Loot is in the three main colors with abilities that trigger for casting spells from anywhere other than your hand.
@evilhorst2249
@evilhorst2249 2 месяца назад
Yeah i was kinda baffled seth did not see that
@Moonscar1
@Moonscar1 2 месяца назад
I was coming to comment something similar! The Gruul precon deck from Baldur’s Gate and a lot of the recent Doctor Who product fit into this deck extremely well.
@ospero7681
@ospero7681 2 месяца назад
Yep. I saw that card and immediately went "I need one for my Thirteen/Yaz deck". More free impulse draw is always welcome.
@nick8402
@nick8402 2 месяца назад
@@Moonscar1and the very next set has another cast from exile gruul precon that this card is gonna love
@quintenhaire1037
@quintenhaire1037 2 месяца назад
So, the duplicator doesn't actually sacrifice stuff itself. You would need some other way to sacrifice the Ugin's Nexus for this to work.
@tinkerermelon6599
@tinkerermelon6599 2 месяца назад
I also imagine the sack has to be during the end step as well, right? Otherwise the duplicated Nexus would just skip the extra turn you'd get. Am I reading that correctly?
@kathara6542
@kathara6542 2 месяца назад
@@tinkerermelon6599 With the way Ugin's Nexus is worded I belive you are corect
@Chris-yb8bg
@Chris-yb8bg 2 месяца назад
​@@tinkerermelon6599you don't get the new token until the next end step so you don't have to wait. But you do need something to sac it indeed, and KCI is probably too perfect.
@majordude83
@majordude83 2 месяца назад
​@@tinkerermelon6599 In most cases, you'd probably just do it on your end step, but If you have a free, instant-speed sac outlet, you can do it whenever (i.e. in response to exile removal) and then sac the token as soon as it is created on your end step, getting rid of the static ability and giving you an additional extra turn trigger. If you pay for another token, it won't come back until the beginning of the 1st extra turn's end step, and then you can repeat the process (but 3 straight turns should probably be enough to win either way, haha).
@spicymints2655
@spicymints2655 2 месяца назад
ugin's nexus is legendary, legend rules itself
@KoshoShinogi
@KoshoShinogi 2 месяца назад
There's 2 ways in standard to "break" Memory Vessel, both from Outlaws of Thunder Junction. One is Aven Interrupter. You flash in Aven Interrupter on your opponent's end step, untap, pop the Memory Vessel. The 7 cards you exile can be played at cost, but the opponent will have to pay an extra 2 mana per spell which will severely limit how much of the new hand they can use. The other method is High Noon. Get to 7 mana, play High Noon, pop Memory Vessel, pass. The opponent can only play 1 spell from their 7 card hand. On their end step, pop High Noon and now you have full access to your new hand, and as a bonus deal 5 damage to something.
@colinbrown5646
@colinbrown5646 2 месяца назад
I will say that, in today's Commander, people often just don't interact with cards like Omenpath Journey unless it gets something scary. Like, on Turn 4, you can use it, and then get 5 decent but not game ending land cards. That's still a strong ramp card, and people are not pressured to remove it because why would you Assassin's Trophy a ramp card when you can save it for the thing they ramp out with that ramp card? Its similar to why people don't often counterspell a Cultivate or similar. They just don't often feel threatened by it.
@robertstevenson883
@robertstevenson883 2 месяца назад
although honestly that's a mindset that could use changing. ramp spells just give so much value but always go unpunished
@kingofsaltt3836
@kingofsaltt3836 2 месяца назад
@@robertstevenson883depends on the playgroup early game ramp normally goes unharmed but the second something is giving more than 1 or 2 mana it seems to be the biggest target in my experience and if you arent grabbing your best lands either this card you arent gainibg enough value for it to be worth it
@heartbeat4atinman
@heartbeat4atinman 2 месяца назад
I think it's funny that Esoteric Duplicator and Mindslaver are in the same limited environment. It'll be very rare, but there's going to be at least one person who's going to get Mindslaver locked in limited.
@majordude83
@majordude83 2 месяца назад
I wouldn't even be mad if it happened to me.
@DragonAttack515
@DragonAttack515 2 месяца назад
Emotional damage
@wqweqwet1804
@wqweqwet1804 2 месяца назад
No hat today Seth? Edit: also the story is that Vraska and Jace also are together and adopted the little guy.
@j_g_t6091
@j_g_t6091 2 месяца назад
Memory Jar was also busted due to the lands in the surrounding sets. Tolarian Academy is what really set the card into overdrive. They literally printed a copy that is nerfed in every way possible, while lands are not nearly as powerful as they were.
@funkydiscogod
@funkydiscogod 2 месяца назад
Esoteric Duplicator + Ugin's Nexus isn't a combo. At the beginning of your end step, you get a new Ugin's Nexus which will skip extra turn effects.
@connergish9060
@connergish9060 2 месяца назад
Sorta..... You could Sac it again after the token resolves cause then it will delay trigger to the NEXT end step and won't be on the battlefield during the start of the extra turn. So.... It works but there is a tiny timing hiccup you gotta get around. Just gotta Sac it during end steps
@OnePointSafety
@OnePointSafety 2 месяца назад
You just sacrifice it during your end step pay the 2 and then it doesn't come back until your extra turns end step. Repeat after that
@Mastblood
@Mastblood 2 месяца назад
@@connergish9060 also.. you need a way to sacrifice artifacts. Neither one of these cards sacrifices the nexus (duplicator only sacs itself), so you would need a 3rd like KCI (not modern legal) in order to pull off the combo.
@CptManboobs
@CptManboobs 2 месяца назад
@@Mastblood ARCBOUND RAVAGER, AFFINITY BROS WE ARE SO BACK.
@MissingNovice
@MissingNovice 2 месяца назад
I've only known Loot for one day but if anything happened to him I'd Hive Mind copies of One With Death to the whole table and then let mine resolve.
@Apkooi1
@Apkooi1 2 месяца назад
The most exciting part about Loot is that commander players are going to die to pure greed without a may trigger on this bad boy 😎
@Chasemuss
@Chasemuss 2 месяца назад
No such thing as too greedy in edh 😈
@Apkooi1
@Apkooi1 2 месяца назад
Honestly though Questing druid + Loot in standard seems like a super cool standard deck
@Chasemuss
@Chasemuss 2 месяца назад
@@Apkooi1 not sure about standard, but I'm gonna make small spell tribal with him. All cards have mv
@solcloudchaser4988
@solcloudchaser4988 2 месяца назад
Loot is a super powered alien baby, the vault is a space ship and jace is a world traveling anti hero. If this sounds familiar to you, thats because this set was designed at a point when The Mandalorian was at its peek.
@KunouNoHana
@KunouNoHana 2 месяца назад
The problem with Loot, is that it's just Borderlands. This whole set is Borderlands. Open the vault find a giant monster (The dinosaurs, not the Pikachu), get a map for future treasure hunts, it's Borderlands. Every new thing I find out about OTJ makes me immediately think "Did they have a UB set for Borderlands but the deal fell through?".
@vinnythewebsurfer
@vinnythewebsurfer 2 месяца назад
Considering the upcoming movie, honestly it feels uncanny that there isn’t like how every other UB has been exactly that; Promo for the new thing happening with said IP.
@alexforbes7812
@alexforbes7812 2 месяца назад
Just wait till you watch the trailer for the set. its not just borderlands, its borderlands 2!!
@KingOfDoma
@KingOfDoma 2 месяца назад
If a deal fell through, it's probably for the best - that movie looks TERRIBLE...
@popo237
@popo237 2 месяца назад
Imagine MTG players whining about Alpha. It is just LoTR
@elidasilva5558
@elidasilva5558 2 месяца назад
Pretty much yeah...and later you know there gonna make a Borderlands Universe set
@Zentenski
@Zentenski 2 месяца назад
Now that Surgical Extraction is on Arena, is there any chance of seeing an updated version of the Kaya "exile all your wincons" deck you played for Against the Odds (?) when she came out in RNA? It's one of my favourite decks I've seen on the channel :)
@Zentenski
@Zentenski 2 месяца назад
I feel vindicated after watching this weeks Against the Odds.
@Crimmando
@Crimmando 2 месяца назад
Maybe with Omenpath, you don’t get 5 best? You just get five medium lands. It thins your deck with the upside of ramping you every turn if it sticks around.
@andrewborkosky2709
@andrewborkosky2709 2 месяца назад
I'd probably go for 2 good lands and 3 okay lands. Make them spend the removal on it and if they don't you get the value. But my local meta is kinda short on disenchant effects.
@philkav
@philkav 2 месяца назад
I think you also missed Stingerback Terror or, at least, I don't remember you talking about that card.
@zaksaturday1693
@zaksaturday1693 2 месяца назад
The difficulty of Ugin's Nexus would be the instant-speed artifact sac setup along with Duplicator, since you can only ever sacrifice it during your current end step as it would otherwise make you skip your next turn if it was on the field.
@lucidlullaby894
@lucidlullaby894 2 месяца назад
Loot looks like a character from a Kirby game, and much like those characters I don’t trust Loot as far as I can throw them
@Bigd2k
@Bigd2k 2 месяца назад
But those characters are small. So you can throw them far. Therefore you trust them.
@Xoulrath_
@Xoulrath_ 2 месяца назад
​@@Bigd2k but what if they're infinitely dense, so you can't even pick them up?
@blackiscolor7732
@blackiscolor7732 2 месяца назад
You can throw him pretty far tho
@raccoonhatcity7627
@raccoonhatcity7627 2 месяца назад
🤠
@as95ms98
@as95ms98 2 месяца назад
REST IN PEACE IN STANDARD LETS GOOOO!!! Instantly going in all of my sideboards. GRAVEYARD IS GRAVEYARD!
@bamit11
@bamit11 2 месяца назад
I actually have a Jund Equipment Aristocrat Commander deck. Tana and Sengir are the commanders. I'm the one person Lotus Ring was made for.
@jojosouma809
@jojosouma809 2 месяца назад
20:18 it doesn't say you can't get basic lands with it, they just need to have different names, my solution to that in 2+ color decks is just picking 1 important land to get on your endstep and 4 basics, 2 snow-covered and 2 normal ones, if it gets dealt with it, you only lose a few basics.
@metaphics
@metaphics 2 месяца назад
Omenpath Journey is like Endless Horizons but you’re capped at 5 lands instead of every plains. You can pair it with Greater Auramancy for protection, but sooner or later somebody will hit farewell. Mid to bad, though at least maybe getting your best utility land for four mana and thinning your deck isn’t nothing. This mechanic either needs phasing in response to any effect that would exile it, or it needs to sit in exile and spit out one land per turn. I have no idea how to cost a card that guarantees gas for the rest of the game.
@DAsrada
@DAsrada 2 месяца назад
I think the malevolent force Kaervek mentioned in the story isn't necessarily Loot, but it's whatever had enough magical oomph to dumpster a multiplanar empire. That if whatever that was did all that, it might well still be around and reactivate as soon as a Fomori is outside the vault. If KAERVEK, genocidal, torturing, Phyrexian Dreadnaught Enjoyer Kaervek thinks something is too bad news to be worth it, I don't blame the bad guys for just deciding to go home and cut their losses before anything happens.
@vanh0lio
@vanh0lio 2 месяца назад
Legion Artifact is pretty close to Hammer of Purphoros from Theros - 3 mana and sac a land to get a 3/3 golem (also had haste due to the hammer). One of my favorite cards to play in that Standard.
@Jlizard27
@Jlizard27 2 месяца назад
So much of the Big Score looks like it will be a blast to play in my Brenard commander deck. One crucial thing about Synthesizer is that it’s on etb, not cast, and as the artifact creature tokens keep their cmc, it’ll proc for every creature 3 or above.
@mazein90
@mazein90 2 месяца назад
For Omenpath journey, you should grab 5 Basic. If it blown up, there's no feel bad and you just deck thinning. If it's not, you get to ramp 1 basic per end turn for 5 turn.
@mostlyokay
@mostlyokay 2 месяца назад
Get one good nonbasic and 4 basics, so if they blow it up they use a disenchant for one good land essentially
@KoshoShinogi
@KoshoShinogi 2 месяца назад
The power of making your ramp deck 5 cards thinner for 4 mana cannot be understated. People fire off Explosive Vegetation style effects just to get 2 cards out of the deck for the same reason. You're going to improve your draw steps dramatically regardless of how many lands you ultimately get to put into play. I agree though, get 1-2 good lands and the rest basics.
@bendysbrother7447
@bendysbrother7447 2 месяца назад
It says 5 lands with different names, so unless there's something I don't know about how that works, you can't grab 5 basics
@mostlyokay
@mostlyokay 2 месяца назад
@@bendysbrother7447Forest, Snow-Covered Forest, Island, Snow-Covered Island, Mountain?
@KoshoShinogi
@KoshoShinogi 2 месяца назад
@@bendysbrother7447 Depends how your deck is built. You can't grab the same basics, but if it's a 5-color deck that has every basic type, you _could_ grab one of each. That's unlikely I'll admit. At least some of the cards will most likely have to be non-basic. Now that I think of it though, I think the optimal way to use this is to grab 5 different fetches. That's going to thin the deck out anywhere between 6 to 10 cards depending on how long it stays out. And if the enchantment does get dealt with, you didn't lose any real mana producing lands, just fetches.
@jaxsonbateman
@jaxsonbateman 2 месяца назад
Potential standard combo with Esoteric Duplicator - it, Roxanne, and Dragonspark Reactor (or whatever payoff you want for a constant stream of artifacts ETBing). Then you make some treasures, sac them for 2 thanks to Roxanne, and use those 2 to pay for the Duplicator to get them back - but adding counters to your Dragonspark (or helping whatever other wincon you're using). Alternatively, if you have a sac outlet for artifacts you can sac Meteorites to get the 2 damage ETB too. And you can also sac the Dragonspark whenever you need to, for repeatable - if not expensive - removal. I mean, it's not what I'd call powerful or anything, but maybe an Against the Odds type of deck? Otherwise, there's some good potential value with it with a card like Saheeli, the Sun's Brilliance - for 2 mana she gives you a hasty copy of a creature or artifact that's also an artifact, that gets sac'd at EoT - but when it gets sac'd you can pay an additional 2 to get a permanent token copy of it. Card's probably too cute for competitive but the kitchen table player in me loves it.
@KoshoShinogi
@KoshoShinogi 2 месяца назад
I don't think it's too cute at all. I had some of the same ideas. Dragonspark Reactor is pretty slow though. I think this is better as an engine piece than combo per se, because you only get value on endsteps. Saheeli does unlock a lot of potential where you can make artifact copies of any non-legendary creature or artifact then make that copy permanent, so copying things with ETBs will add up. Tezzeret can help if you want to use it as a clue factory, because he gives you basically a free clue sack each turn. But I think actually another of today's preview cards would be more competitive in the same style of deck: Worldwalker Helm. It's just going to give you extra map tokens whenever you make an artifact token. Saheeli can copy creatures and immediately have a map to use on herself or the token. Then tap use the Helm's activated ability to immediately make a permanent copy of that token, rather than on end step after sacking something. Captain Storm can quickly grow out of control while all this is happening. And two other great UR cards for this are Gleaming Geardrake and Detective's Satchel. The Satchel especially because it comes down makes 2 clues and a map. Then you sack a clue draw a card and get a thopter and another map. Use Saheeli or the Helm itself to make copies and get even more clues, thopters, and maps. It can get out of hand. Just the Helm and the Satchel are a 2 card engine for infinite card draw and board presence.
@magnusbevaart2477
@magnusbevaart2477 2 месяца назад
I remember that you played a steal sac deck in standard a while ago where one of the best cards was eriette's charming apple. I think lotus ring is great in decks that steal stuff but are not in the usual colours for sac outlets
@cupmallows
@cupmallows 2 месяца назад
Memory vessel works with set's mechanic of plot but further synergizes with things like foretell, flashback, or retrace, meaning while most decks will only play the new exiled 7 you likely get the exiled 7 plus the other interactions.
@Chalky2023
@Chalky2023 2 месяца назад
Correct me if i'm wrong, but if u manage to make a copy of substitute synthesiser, doesn't that trigger the original copy? Since everything is copied, including cmc. Then you can cast worldwalker helm (which triggers original SS and the copy SS), and use worldwalker to copy the copy SS, which again makes karnstructs?
@zackwilcox3183
@zackwilcox3183 2 месяца назад
I'm sorry but duplicator and ugins nexus how does tht work ? Wouldn't the token copy state that you skip the turn if you take an extra turn ? You'd get your token copy of ugins nexus before going to take that new turn it checks and then you skip that turn no ? Maybe it's a case of sacrificing ugins nexus some how during the end step to get it the following end step ?
@autumnthelegend6561
@autumnthelegend6561 2 месяца назад
Uh is it substitute synthesizer or simulacrum synthesizer? At 9:09 it’s listed as the latter
@RafitoOoO
@RafitoOoO 2 месяца назад
Abrupt Decay is also another Pioneer staple being added to Explorer.
@astrowerm
@astrowerm 2 месяца назад
I have an infinite extra turn deck for timeless using timestream navigator and reflection of kiki-jiki! I love it so far, ran about 100 games with it, and it's still not stale yet.
@Zaulked
@Zaulked 2 месяца назад
Omenpath Journey, I think the ideal scenario is you get you best two lands, and have 3 lands you don't mind losing. Because you almost always get the first one as a counterspell is more likely than an instant disenchant. In that way it does thin the deck which is always nice, for enchantress decks there's heloids + seras sanctum so it's worth
@tonysmith9905
@tonysmith9905 2 месяца назад
You ramp one of them at random, you don't get to pick.
@davidwipperfurth8465
@davidwipperfurth8465 2 месяца назад
Memory Vessel ( 24:28 ) is really good if you have a Drannith Magistrate, right? You get a new hand and your opponents can't play any cards on their next turns, so it's like a Time Walk and Time Twister put together. There is also that Aven Interrupter card in the new set, so you could even do something like this in standard and brawl.
@davidbain7629
@davidbain7629 2 месяца назад
High noon 2nd mode also makes it like how fires yurion worked. Sac it opp end step. Play your turn without restrictions then play another copy as the last spell. Maybe magical christmas land but still a possibility
@WiLDRAGE777
@WiLDRAGE777 2 месяца назад
Worldwalker Helm works hand in hand with Simulacrum Synthesiser . It gives you the Karnstruct + a map to make it bigger and then can clone the Karnstructs.
@MTGEDH
@MTGEDH 2 месяца назад
Seth do you want to talk about Stingerback Terror or did I miss it in a prior video?
@randomsocknr.3334
@randomsocknr.3334 2 месяца назад
Well, the lore seems to be that Jayce and Vraska married after they survived phyrexia but couldn't get a child because vraska couldn't get pregnant from Jace because Human/Gorgon Genes don't work together so they adopted the tiny beast dragon. There is a hillarious interaction in the story where they discuss the child thing an Vraska remarks that they "Would know by now if it worked" 😂
@Grimjr7
@Grimjr7 2 месяца назад
I don't know how many there are in those colors and when I think of them I can only think of the green red one that makes wolves. That being said, loot could work with cards that care about casting from exile or cards that care about casting things not from your hand. I just looked through the doctor who said and the commander deck in the same colors has lots of paradox cards which trigger off of you casting a spell from anywhere other than your hand. Laliea the blade forged cares about whenever you exile a card from your library or graveyard. My point is the themeing of the deck. Doesn't have to just be good stuff. It could be casting from exile or not from your hand or exiling in general.
@john8062
@john8062 2 месяца назад
Seth a strokes fan!!!! You just got a new fan. Best part of the video
@ozzwich
@ozzwich 2 месяца назад
Grand Abolisher doesn't stop channeling a Boseiju or an Otawara ^_^
@Zanthosus
@Zanthosus 2 месяца назад
One thing that's notable about Memory Vessel is that, in Commander, it effectively silences your opponents if you activate it with a Drannith Magistrate on the field.
@LucasNIN255
@LucasNIN255 2 месяца назад
Dust Animus will be great in control SB against aggro in standard and maybe pioneer. 4/5 flying and lifelink stops most aggro decks, and you will have 5 mana to protect it.
@AdHocWholius
@AdHocWholius 2 месяца назад
Lotus Ring with Ser Gwyn as a commander, any 2 mana or less knight, Haakon, and a haste enabler like swiftfoot boots, rabbit battery or Lightning Greaves makes you go infinite on mana, etbs and death triggers. The card perfectly slots into Gwyn given the number of recursion cards she can run without sacrificing slots. It also makes it extremely easy if you can equip at instant speed to sacrifice off a knight to play around creature removal. We might actually see Gwyn as a CEDH commander for Mardu aristocrats with the amount of tutors she can run.
@hbrianmcfarland
@hbrianmcfarland 2 месяца назад
Omenpaths journey seems a lot better than expected, because If you recast it you can find more Lands and get any of them
@balbadorf989
@balbadorf989 2 месяца назад
Seth, drannith magistrate locks just got real.
@ConManAU
@ConManAU 2 месяца назад
Some other shenanigans with Esoteric Duplicator- Urabrask’s Forge, essentially pay 2 to not lose your token; Phyrexian Dreadnought, something something pay 2 repeatedly for some kind of ETB trigger or fling?
@elijahwalker323
@elijahwalker323 2 месяца назад
@11:30 I think I like the substitute synthisizer for my bernard deck.
@as95ms98
@as95ms98 2 месяца назад
There's a bunch of hate cards that have been released this set. I feel like there could be some sort of Boros prison deck in Standard now.
@MindSlain
@MindSlain 2 месяца назад
Substitute Synthesizer and Mechanized Production seems fun
@commanderpower99
@commanderpower99 2 месяца назад
This set is insane!!!!
@mikeburns6213
@mikeburns6213 2 месяца назад
Substitute synthesizer would go well in the one shot colossus surprise deck you did for pioneer, if you go turn 2 artifact turn 3 synthesizer turn 4 brass knuckles, synthesizer triggers twice since the trigger is on come into play not cast and the token does have a mana value over 3, play your colossus even without a sanctum of ugin and you still have a 10/10 and 3 8/8 construct
@montefrenkel8205
@montefrenkel8205 2 месяца назад
Crime novelist makes legion foundry effectively cost 1, right? Is there anything else that gets you mana on a sac?
@SolidWake
@SolidWake 2 месяца назад
Doesnt ugins nexus prevent your extra turn since its gonna be on the field? Unless you sack it twice, the original and the token.
@ianshevlin299
@ianshevlin299 2 месяца назад
If you can blink omenpath journey you can just use it as a land tutor each turn
@Zakading
@Zakading 2 месяца назад
Was hoping Pest Control had Split Second instead of Cycling to deal with all those random food, treasure, map etc. tokens all over the place now for good, but that'd definitely be too pushed.
@vulcanh254
@vulcanh254 2 месяца назад
I'm confused, they're in the list slot. So 1 out of 5 packs will contain either a list card or a big score card? Or is it always a big score guaranteed? I'm trying to understand how rare or how common these cards actually are. It sounds like they could either be relatively common or even rarer than mythics.
@DeathSpeach
@DeathSpeach 2 месяца назад
The thing about memory vessel I think is being overlooked is the line that states "players can't play cards from their hand until your next turn" ...
@tateallen9972
@tateallen9972 2 месяца назад
Substitute Synthesizer is actually kind of insane in high power formats. Image a T1 or T2 synthesizer through something like ancient tomb and a mox into zero drops, following it up with an Urza's Saga on a following turn. And it's blue so it pitches to FoW. This is crazy!
@BAdesignsSeattle
@BAdesignsSeattle 2 месяца назад
I think saffron olive forgot that dust animus's trigger is an ETB trigger, so it would also trigger with any kind of flicker effects. Also with "Essence Flux" it would ETB with an additional +1+1 counter since it is a spirit
@mrpinguimninja
@mrpinguimninja 2 месяца назад
You can repeatedly blink omenpath journey, get one land each turn and minimize the risk of having it blown up
@adamgarcia5616
@adamgarcia5616 2 месяца назад
Ginger sculpture for the artifact sac
@nathanielnizard2163
@nathanielnizard2163 2 месяца назад
Omenpath journey is very interesting. - If you really want a land and you know somebody cannot interact with it the turns it enters play: you get it. And you can take multiple copies of this land which generate a moment of tention when you had what you wanted but your oponent still needs to react or it gets worse for him, which is almost a tempo win - If your oponent cannot interact with it you ramp a lot and it gives you lots of versatility for later turns thinking about man lands and hate lands - you can also decide to exile lands you do not want to draw anymore. It represents a lot of deck filtering. However it can be stiffled upon entering the battlefield abd it is a massive tempo loss, being down 5 bad draws and having eventually up to 5 more lands in a top deck war is strong as hell
@KoshoShinogi
@KoshoShinogi 2 месяца назад
You can't grab multiples of the same land. They all need different names. Also, I don't love this for grabbing silver bullet lands because you put them into play at random over 5 turns. I think first and foremost this should be looked at as a ramp spell and not a tutor. Deck thinning is going to be a strong component as you said, especially if you get fetches because each of those represents 2 lands.
@nathanielnizard2163
@nathanielnizard2163 2 месяца назад
@@KoshoShinogiyou can get just one land as well. I did not read different names. Dunno if it will be part of any meta rly but the fact that it has high ceiling and is an enchantment is pretty interesting.
@KoshoShinogi
@KoshoShinogi 2 месяца назад
@@nathanielnizard2163 Yes, you can get fewer than 5 lands to lessen the risk. Don't know if I want to pay 4 mana sorcery speed to put 1 land into play. There's Archdruid's Charm that can do the same thing as well as Titania's Command that put's 2 into play for a little more cost. The card does have a high ceiling, yes. Going to be interesting to see how it gets played.
@g.c.8035
@g.c.8035 2 месяца назад
Will be this abiable in arena ??
@NeoBaldev
@NeoBaldev 2 месяца назад
one thing regards high noon.... have you seen how man cards can be using WITHOUT CASTING RIGHT NOW ON STANDARD? and now with the addition of plot, you can pretty much build your deck around it to be able to do more than 1 thing each turn
@DoctorWhoBlue
@DoctorWhoBlue 2 месяца назад
Don't you cast plotted cards from exile without paying their cost?
@NeoBaldev
@NeoBaldev 2 месяца назад
@@DoctorWhoBlue yup, but the first part of plot is an activation so it doesnt count, obviously the free cast afterwards it counts. But since you are limiting the amount of cards that can be played on a turn, the fact that you use the cost of plot and not play anything on a turn, wont be hurting as much
@willstebbins5338
@willstebbins5338 2 месяца назад
Esoteric Duplicator and Substitute Synthesizer are honestly really making me consider retooling my Adrix and Nev, Twincasters // Esix, Fractal Bloom commander deck into, like, weird janky Simic artifacts/artifact creature aristocrats "artifact copies go brrrrr" deck. I feel like with the tech we've gotten in this set so far, the Kamigawa Reconfigure cards, Prototype creatures in Brothers War, I feel like there's enough to make this deck work.
@ObeseN1NJA
@ObeseN1NJA 2 месяца назад
Wouldn't the token copy of Nexus stop the extra turns?
@MidgarMerc
@MidgarMerc 2 месяца назад
Seth just not even mentioning Dranith Magistrate or Ghostly Pilferer when talking about Memory Vessel smh
@boikman
@boikman 2 месяца назад
I think Omenpath Journey can depend on what it grabs; in my Hazezon deck that'll be running 21 Deserts once Outlaws drops, I think grabbing 5 different deserts paints a much different target than grabbing, say, 3 deserts, a wasteland, and a field of the dead which that deck could also pull with Omenpath.
@seanheath4492
@seanheath4492 2 месяца назад
Was the writing team (re)playing Borderlands when they came up with this? Because that's what this reminds me of. Also, Loot + Thirteenth Doctor could be fun.
@NathanielSimpson1481
@NathanielSimpson1481 2 месяца назад
I'm still disappointed they didn't include any horsemanship cards in the cowboy set
@isaactaher9396
@isaactaher9396 2 месяца назад
I assume Loot is there to set up for Bloomburrow?
@tylerbrooks6063
@tylerbrooks6063 2 месяца назад
I think Memory Vessel will be sweet in my Rocco, Street Chef deck!
@MitchPiotrowski
@MitchPiotrowski 2 месяца назад
Ugin's Nexus isn't a 2 card infinite combo. You have to have a sac outlet for it, and Esoteric Duplicator can only sac itself, not other artifacts. So at best you'd need another permanent that has the ability to sacrifice artifacts. Best one I can think of in Standard would be Bartolome.
@ArchenGold
@ArchenGold 2 месяца назад
Omenpath Journey in a blink deck. Pull one at a time on purpose.
@NoeticEidetics
@NoeticEidetics 2 месяца назад
I don’t understand The Big Score as a set; but it’s standard legal, so cowabunga it is.
@elliotbanbury6442
@elliotbanbury6442 2 месяца назад
Hi noon will for sure see cedh play
@Clemsonalumnus
@Clemsonalumnus 2 месяца назад
You need a third card for the Ugin’s Nexus combo as neither sac it. With KCI, you just get all the turns, though.
@KoshoShinogi
@KoshoShinogi 2 месяца назад
The greedy way to play Omenpath Journey is to grab your 5 most powerful lands. And if you know your opponent can't interact with enchantments, maybe you do that. The sneaky smart way to play it however is to get 5 different fetches instead. That's going to double the amount of deck thinning a single copy does. And even if it is removed, you don't actually lose any of your mana producing lands.
@MichelPlanteBrand
@MichelPlanteBrand 2 месяца назад
Will we see a fresh new D&T standard deck?
@clarknes3111
@clarknes3111 2 месяца назад
Here is my thing with the enchantment. Sure it’s easy enough to lose 5 lands, but it’s also just very reasonable to not care. Like you probably don’t put your 5 best lands. You grab 5 good fixing lands. Whatever your best random 2-3 color lands are. It gives you one on end step, so even if it only makes it around a second turn it’s already on rate for 4 mana ramp but got you dual lands. And if it’s just generic fixing lands, people won’t want to blow it up. Even if they do though, you’re not exactly feeling terrible for it. It’s just such efficient ramp. 1 extra land a turn for 5 turns is bonkers.
@Shimatzu95
@Shimatzu95 2 месяца назад
Exactly what i was thinking too, unless you want 1 specific land and just play this as an extra version of say pir's whim, grabbing 5 random fixing lands is the way to go
@CuddlyBuns
@CuddlyBuns 2 месяца назад
Substitute synthesizer is going to find a lovely home in my Emry deck
@CerbearusBane
@CerbearusBane 2 месяца назад
Gotta love Magic lore. "We Compleated a bunch of our iconic characters for shock value (an irreversible process) then 2 seconds after the Phyrexians are defeated, everyone magically gets un-compleated"
@davidbain7629
@davidbain7629 2 месяца назад
In case anyone forgot, magic and wotc are a business. As a business they need to build their recognition in their ip. So i would love to see loot become a plushy or a pikachu. Magic really badly needs recognition in the non-nerd part of the world.
@lenardEkko
@lenardEkko 2 месяца назад
wait isn't memory vessle dranith magistrate a psuedo lock?
@grubgobbler3917
@grubgobbler3917 2 месяца назад
I feel like Dust Animus could work in some kind of control deck. They often will run some cheap threats that can grow, or be cast at a discount, like Tolarian Terror or Murktide. This comes down on turn 5 whuoe letting you hold up most of you mana for counters, and is a pretty decent threat to close out the game.
@Tinil0
@Tinil0 2 месяца назад
Seth, how is Reennact the Crime going to get Atraxa on the battlefield if they can only cast 1 spell per turn? Reenact is that spell, then they can't cast the free Atraxa.
@Juggernautohyeah
@Juggernautohyeah 2 месяца назад
I think Ugin's Nexus doesn't work since you get the copy before you actually start the extra turn? Unless you are specifically sacrificing it on your end step, nvm. Lol
@benjiboy1337
@benjiboy1337 2 месяца назад
Loot seems like a fun Commander - if you have a mana rock, that's one draw per turn, anything else, and you get multiple draws per turn. At 3 mana? I could see some kind of CEDH deck around this even.
@JARRED994
@JARRED994 2 месяца назад
Memory Vessel + Dranith Magistrate. Impulse drawn 7 while your opponents just exile their top 7.
@ketchumall8243
@ketchumall8243 2 месяца назад
Plus they can't cast spells for a turn cycle because memory vessel says you can't cast spell from your hand for the turn cycle after you activate it.
@derekseaton4412
@derekseaton4412 2 месяца назад
Memory Vessel + Drannith Magistrate = less friends. Especially if you find a way to make token copies of the card to lock people out of sorcery speed actions. Add in Grand Abolisher so they can’t respond during your turn for a hard lock. Sounds fun!
@timtauber5557
@timtauber5557 2 месяца назад
Imagine an alien with an obvious fish head and he says “It’s a trap”!
@Michael-no1ho
@Michael-no1ho 2 месяца назад
27:44 memory jar would also go burr in a the war doctor deck. He’d get 28 counters which would half someone’s life
@Randoman590
@Randoman590 2 месяца назад
That person would be dead immediately if the companion is Clara!
@ospero7681
@ospero7681 2 месяца назад
Assuming you mean Memory Vessel, that's not how this works, I think. The exiling happens all at once - this isn't like with Cascade, where every single card you exile is a separate event (because it needs to check if it can be cast). Memory Vessel exiles 28 cards, true, but it's all one event, so the War Doctor only gets one counter from it.
@lawyer4522
@lawyer4522 2 месяца назад
I personally like the vessel since I run rocco street chef it makes him go nuts
@Jaxomh
@Jaxomh 2 месяца назад
Drannith Magistrate and Memory Vessel seems pretty good
@onyxrexdragon7129
@onyxrexdragon7129 2 месяца назад
Omenpath could be good in 4 or 5 colors, and you could just grab triomes that would already come in tap.
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