Тёмный

The Biggest Mistakes Made In The Black Lightning TV Show 

Alt Factuals
Подписаться 20 тыс.
Просмотров 8 тыс.
50% 1

The Biggest Mistakes Made In The Black Lightning TV Show
W/ Devante
I liked the TV show but I can admit it did have a few issues that could be apart of the reason why the show was not received very well for a longer period of time. Black Lightning changed the game in a few ways but when it comes to black shows, it has to be written better than most shows to even last just as long as any other CW show. Let me know any questions and theories you may have about the series as a whole. Also, help us make our videos by leaving suggestions down below.
Dead Donkey Productions: / @devantejohnsondop
Alternative Factuals
SUBSCRIBE: bit.ly/2kLuuXb
Podcast: anchor.fm/alte...
IG: / alternativefactuals
Facebook: / alternativefactuals
Twitter: / afactuals1798
Discord: / discord
*Don't forget to leave a "Like" that tells RU-vid that more people should watch my videos, and hit the '🔔' so you will get a notification as soon as my videos post, Thanks You!*
#AlternativeFactuals #Arrowverse #DCComics

Опубликовано:

 

11 окт 2024

Поделиться:

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист
Посмотреть позже
Комментарии : 168   
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
Let me know your thoughts about the Black Lightning TV show
@willisj1515
@willisj1515 3 года назад
CW ruins all their shows, unfortunately. Usually all the characters suffer developmentally due to corner that the write themselves in with the plots. I never got past the first episode of this show. 🤦🏾‍♂️
@lunamequa
@lunamequa 3 года назад
I made a petition for the show to continue and it didn't get anywhere near the amount of signatures I was hoping for.
@roguedexx938
@roguedexx938 3 года назад
If only they have this family the Superman and Lois treatment it would been perfect!! Strong black family with issues! What a wasted opportunity
@Forcystus1337
@Forcystus1337 2 года назад
you confuse gravedigger with painkiller, gravedigger was wayne bradys character who messed up everyone in his path. pain killer was the one who was rebuilt and was young lightnings love interest. both were dope characters. i wish they had continued the asa thing with wayne bradys character in season 4
@ajwebhead21
@ajwebhead21 Год назад
I enjoyed the first 3 season of black lightning my favorite was season 3 because of the new suit black lightning got and Jeff showing a bit more of his he is not someone to mess with and that he is looked at as a leader and him becoming part of the arrowverse justice league. Just to me season 3 was a banger and season 4 fucked that all up
@CCEkeke
@CCEkeke 3 года назад
My two biggest problems with the show were Tobias staying around too long and then Anissa. The latter actually was why I stopped watching the show. I was so sick of her sanctimonious, know-it-all attitude. Anissa kept acting like she knew better than her dad about superheroing even though she was a rookie and her actions kept putting her family in jeopardy. Not only did she never learn her lesson but she never faced any consequences for it.
@TheRealGrampz
@TheRealGrampz 3 года назад
I didn’t like Jen either she literally never progressed as a character other then knowing how to control her powers . She was always going into the same problems all the time and was mad stubborn . Like the amount of times they told her not to go to space , and went anyways…
@layback76
@layback76 2 года назад
Facts! The same reasons i stop watching the show as well. And also the fact that they play music every time they fight makes it corny also. You have to play dramatic music while fighting, not roller-coaster from Ohio Players..lol
@dramonmaster222
@dramonmaster222 3 года назад
The biggest issue with BL is that Jefferson Pierce was sidelined in in his own show.
@layback76
@layback76 2 года назад
Facts! And his oldest daughter also killed the show for me. Her know it all attitude, stubborn very annoying.
@JetBfly
@JetBfly Год назад
On God I was like what? Main character gone? I'm gone too.
@joshuagarner1654
@joshuagarner1654 9 месяцев назад
Welcome to modern writing
@paulc3629
@paulc3629 3 года назад
Solid points. A key problem for me was the fact that the actual hero of the show was Peter Gambi. As much as he didn't have powers, he was never ever in a situation where you would think for sure he is in trouble. The whole assassination attempt was pretty obvious. He was always the master planner, moral example, and knew everything and he was the safe haven
@paulc3629
@paulc3629 3 года назад
Also like you pointed out the build up for tobias was pretty elaborate, only for him to be barely an inconvenience for Jefferson in the end
@sistarkenyasue2078
@sistarkenyasue2078 5 месяцев назад
Yep The white saviour
@TollFree999
@TollFree999 3 года назад
I felt like Black Lightning could never sustain respect from his family for long periods of time. Either one or often all of them were always really upset with him. The character also for an older, supposedly wiser super hero, made a lot of stupid mistakes so their anger could be justified. The inventor guy seemed to carry his family's respect more often. The writers obviously wanted to push the independent strong black women, down with Black male patriarchy thing, but made Gambi the wise white male patriarch of the family anyway. 😆
@Crystalbella1999
@Crystalbella1999 3 года назад
Jennifer should be a graduate by now. It’s technically been 5 years!!!They did Lala wrong. He’s the only character I can watch and actually understand their motive.
@chcltroses
@chcltroses 3 года назад
Right, they could have made him an ally since he cared more about freeland then Tobias did
@rebeccazw3919
@rebeccazw3919 3 года назад
in season 2 jennifers friend said something like: "metahumans are freaks" I think it could have been an intresting storyline to let her find out jennifer is one but instead after that she was never seen again in the show
@chcltroses
@chcltroses 3 года назад
and that sentiment was in the show around the same time. I wonder why they cut it out. That could have been something to humble Jen and teach her more about being a superhero.
@lyn1.6
@lyn1.6 3 года назад
They did Lyn so dirty. She went from a well respected doctor to a drug addict. At one point, I thought that she was going to lick greenlight off of the floor.
@bobkattninja3469
@bobkattninja3469 3 года назад
Man you batting 1000% right now. Nothing against Cress Williams, he did an amazing job portraying both egos. I just felt that physically he didn't have enough athleticism to pull off the action sequences such as the hand to hand combat. Thunder and Painkiller had the best fight scenes throughout the series when it came to hand to hand.
@TollFree999
@TollFree999 3 года назад
The Blade reboot will have that same problem.
@chcltroses
@chcltroses 3 года назад
who would you have picked to play Black lightening, since he was supposed to be older?
@bobkattninja3469
@bobkattninja3469 3 года назад
@@chcltroses to be honest I have no idea, but in my opinion it doesn't have to be an established actor it can be someone who is trying to make their name known and who can physically pull off the stunts and action sequences better than Cress.
@TollFree999
@TollFree999 3 года назад
@@bobkattninja3469 They could get a younger actor to play an older one. That's done all the time. Or picked an actor with martial arts experience, or with a dance or an athletic background.
@bobkattninja3469
@bobkattninja3469 3 года назад
@@TollFree999 i really like that idea 💡 😌
@livehammer13
@livehammer13 3 года назад
Painkiller was my favorite character
@jessiedavis796
@jessiedavis796 3 года назад
Jefferson was too weak in terms of powers he looked awful as hell flying around the city. He spent all that time with the ASA and the only powerup he got was electric vison without the suit smh. Anissa was a hypocrite all that talk about saving the community but living in a condo bought with drug money. Jennifer was too cocky and always had a bad attitude and her being powerful than Jefferson made no sense it's his show. Lynn was a smart crackhead and always blaming Jefferson for every damn thing. Lala powers made no sense
@livehammer13
@livehammer13 3 года назад
Lala and painkiller was my favorite.Lala had the Lazarus powers which means if he dies he will come back to life pretty much
@chcltroses
@chcltroses 3 года назад
@@livehammer13 Who was the guy that put him and lady eve in those Vats? I thought the vats and the person who put them in there had the Lazarus Power and they chose who had this power. Maybe Im wrong
@jerronwesley4473
@jerronwesley4473 3 года назад
Black Lightning definitely should have focused heavily on him only and all others should be side characters to develop him. Agreed this show was misleading and didn’t feel like same Black Lightning who led Justice League in comic books.
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
He was king of a background in his own show
@sadiki1980
@sadiki1980 3 года назад
I think focusing on his daughter's and their development of their powers from the start wasn't a bad idea.
@chcltroses
@chcltroses 3 года назад
@@sadiki1980 I agree. it wasn't a bad Idea but the writers let them take over the show. It was called Black Lightning for a reason. I thought they would focus on him more and actually make him like he was in the comics. He had so many other powers than they showed.
@FriendlyBatDoom
@FriendlyBatDoom 3 года назад
It's biggest problem was existing on the CW instead of HBOMAX. As much as they talk about being woke they DESTROY black characters. Example think riverdale.
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
Unfortunately, most people wouldn’t take a risk on a show like this
@FriendlyBatDoom
@FriendlyBatDoom 3 года назад
@@AltFactuals you're right but that doesn't excuse the total character butchering by the writers of the CW. Think about what they did to Mr.Terrific in Arrow.
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
@@FriendlyBatDoom They did butcher him that’s because they didn’t know how to write black characters and they don’t know how to incorporate the villains.
@FriendlyBatDoom
@FriendlyBatDoom 3 года назад
@@AltFactuals they also don't know how to write female characters. They lessened laurel black canary to prop up oliver so it makes sense that they would destroy Lynn, Jennifer, and Anissa by making them whiney and or abrasive.
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
@@FriendlyBatDoom female characters are always rough on the cw for sure
@thatonkgau5221
@thatonkgau5221 8 месяцев назад
I couldn't stand Anissa she was so goddamn annoying her arrogance,ego and self righteousness made her unbearable to watch. I'm fine with characters having flaws as long as there addressed and they result in consequences.
@omarionbrown4765
@omarionbrown4765 2 года назад
I just hate how weak they made Jefferson, he's supposed to be way stronger than this, and he's still fighting Tobias.
@omarionbrown4765
@omarionbrown4765 Год назад
Bro is damn there a Top 5 metahuman and they made him weaker than his own daughter 💀
@CallMeSaltyScorpion
@CallMeSaltyScorpion 3 года назад
A consensus among my friend group is how much we hate Lynn for her hypocrisy and most of her dialogue.
@CallMeSaltyScorpion
@CallMeSaltyScorpion 3 года назад
“He just assaulted cops in broad daylight.” “Oh. OH MY GOD.” “What?” “I know what they finna do. And it’s stupid.” *jefferson erases the cops memories* “Your shitting me.”
@aneazer
@aneazer Год назад
I disliked Lynn’s character telling Jeff that his dad died long ago and to forget about it then saying his powers are a drug and that he’s addicted to them just for her to turn around and be a drug addict and then telling Jeff not to kill Tobias season 1 cuz they don’t murder people only for her to encourage him in the end to kill the bad guys 😑
@karlsingh9076
@karlsingh9076 3 года назад
I would have loved to hear your ideas on how you would improve on all four seasons to then make room for the fifth one. Also, to make room for the spinoff series Painkiller and the Outsiders
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
I’ll definitely do this at a later date
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 3 года назад
Show was about as good as it could get in the middle of season 2 with the Khali Jen and Tobias arc and it's ending. I was blown away. But the ending to that season was anticlimactic. If every season was like that then....man. Probably could have been a classic.
@TheTiger2311
@TheTiger2311 3 года назад
My great disappointment with the show that he wasn't the Black Lighting that came out of the comic book. He should have been more macho and more of a "leader" he should have been more of the focus of the show ,not his daughters and wife that much . But the biggest thing that hurt show in my opinion is that he was made weak by listen to his wife and not himself .That my opinion .
@WDFilms25
@WDFilms25 2 месяца назад
I’m cool with family aspect but considering this was the first live action Black Lightning, S1 should’ve been all about Jeff and subsequent seasons should’ve developed the girls powers. While it fell into the Arrowverse trap of every show having a team. At least this was a family almost a Black INCREDIBLES.
@andrewfitzpatrick9741
@andrewfitzpatrick9741 2 года назад
Likes: Music, majority black cast, Tobias. Dislikes: secret identity revealed to much, No respect at home, B.L. powers were too weak, & Gambi being the savior too often.
@gangofheroes
@gangofheroes 3 года назад
As much as I enjoyed the show and cast I feel they should have went younger where Jennifer would've been around middle school age, Annisa would been around the high school/college age and let the first three or four of so seasons focusing mainly on just Jefferson getting back into being Black Lightning and use Painkiller, Lala aka Tattooed Man, Lady Eve with the Kobra Cult, The ASA and obviously Tobias as main villains of their own seasons.
@TollFree999
@TollFree999 3 года назад
Yeah, but they wanted to focus on the daughters' relationships and have them in conflict with their father all the time and independent of him.
@gangofheroes
@gangofheroes 3 года назад
@@TollFree999 I know but that could and should have been something to introduce later on down the line.
@karlsingh9076
@karlsingh9076 3 года назад
I had a feeling someday someone would make a video like this regarding the Black Lightning TV series.
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
It has to be done
@karlsingh9076
@karlsingh9076 3 года назад
@@AltFactuals I agree
@hasanwallah7015
@hasanwallah7015 3 года назад
Very thorough analysis and very awesome video editing. I feel like if they brought in static in at least one episode their interaction would have aided in the growth and control on Black Lightning potential self
@darceyderosa2426
@darceyderosa2426 2 года назад
My problem with the show is that it was rushed, even before it ended. The girls didn’t respect Jefferson and Lynn basically became a self righteous hypocrite. There was so much untapped potential for this show. It just really sucks that the show didn’t grow. The characters were limited. The biggest loss was Painkiller didn’t get his own show. He made me want to watch. I did like Tobias but the end fight really was terrible.
@keithbrown7911
@keithbrown7911 2 года назад
@@darceyderosa2426 j
@psquared2020
@psquared2020 3 года назад
You missed another person that was able to go toe to toe with Jennifer; Brandon who has geokinetic powers (the ability to control the earth).
@chcltroses
@chcltroses 3 года назад
yes, that was true too, instead of making him a love interest for Jen.
@layback76
@layback76 2 года назад
Loved everything about Black Panther. Hated everything about Black Lighting. In a nutshell almost everything was done wrong with this show.
@TheoButler0421
@TheoButler0421 3 года назад
Trey I said damn near the same things you said about the show. For me it was also after the Crisis Crossover. Jefferson was on the same Earth with Super Girl, Flash, Martian Manhunter and the DEO while Freeland was being invaded by Markovia. That plotline made no sense after the Crossover. None. 🤷🏾‍♂️
@chcltroses
@chcltroses 3 года назад
I thought about that too. Im going to go take a look at the black lighting part of the crisis. I wonder if he had a bigger role in this whole crisis thing, in the comics. With all of those heroes now on one earth, how was Marcovia even able to invade Freeland? shouldn't one of those been able to help BL with the invasion?
@Supremmo
@Supremmo 11 месяцев назад
@@chcltroses That probably had a lot to do with the showrunners of Black Lightning. The Akils who created The Game which was a spin off of Girlfriends weren't big fans of crossover episodes so that probably explains why you never seen any of the other Arrowverse Heroes on BL.
@marcelinovazquez5128
@marcelinovazquez5128 11 месяцев назад
​@@Supremmowell there was also the fact that unlike the other Arrowverse shows which were filmed in Vancouver, Canada Black Lightning was filmed in Atlanta, Georgia. So they couldn't do crossovers as much since it would be a hassle to fly from one country to another just to film one or two episodes
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 3 года назад
Salim Akil is probably to blame for this. A show runner in touch with the black community and black issues might have been necessary but they probably could have used a co show runner who would have handled everything else. Namely the Superhero side of things and probably even the family side of things that the show was losing touch with(Mostly losing touch with it in season 3 I think) Todd Hellbing been doing pretty good with Superman and Lois and it has pretty much the same format as Black Lightning had. Shorter seasons. More serialized. A showrunner like him at their side probably would have helped.
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
The superman show is really good, but there have clear and concise problems which helps the story progress.
@killah_disciple1
@killah_disciple1 3 года назад
I felt like I was the only one that was let down by this show. I have many problems with it. I want to say that I've seen every episode and really wanted to love this show but I ended up finishing it out of a sense of obligation alone. I think the show was trash. I disliked most of the characters except for Cress Williams as Black Lightning. I wish he was in it more. Anissa: Far too head strong and stubborn. She made situations far worse by defying her dad and trying to prove she was independent when she was too inexperienced and hot headed in most situations. Grace: Besides her being in a relationship with Anissa in the comics, why was she even on the show? They had no chemistry and her powers were lame. Jen: The most hard headed and outright disrespectful character on the show. Way too OP and constantly had a stank ass face and attitude throughout. I was glad to see her replaced by JJ and annoyed that they brought her back and ruined the JJ character in the final episode. Lynn: probably the worst person ever. Fuck Lynn. I also wish the actress was better at covering up her English accent. It was distracting. Like Idris Elba speaking with an American accent. Gamby: The overly and inexplicably capable Felicity of the show. I like the actor is everything else but this. It also bothered me when they tried to force the Uncle Gamby relationship with the girls. I never bought into it. Very odd that they call him by his last name yet are so close. LaLa: Straight out of a blaxploitation movie along with the 70s Curtis Mayfield soundtrack. He seemed like he was in a completely different show in every scene. His exaggerated bad guy voice and actions were cartoonish and again, his power was lame. Tobias: the worst villain of all time. I cringed every time he was on screen. From the way the camera shoots him from the floor up to give us the illusion that he's a tall and imposing guy to his constant use of the phrases "black ass" and negro. I felt his dialogue was irresponsible. If the writers were white, fuck them. If they were black, they need to do better for the culture. I don't even know why he was used so much or why Jefferson struggled with this poor man's Wilson Fisk. He sucks. I found the show mostly embarrassing. And corny ass Painkiller sucked too. The dreads 🤣🤣🤣 and the corny dialogue was too much at times. I don't want a spin-off. Give me Gravedigger instead. The best villain the show had to offer. I hoped for the best but this show was trash and it doesn't get a pass from me just because it was a black show. It should've been better.
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
It’s very understandable for you to feel that way
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 3 года назад
Nobody be talking about how overpowered she was it seems like. I've seen people talk about it but it doesn't seem like they talk about it in a bad way. I don't think her power level ever ruined the stakes too much but it could have. That definitely would have been a problem. It probably was a problem at times in the show but I don't remember.
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu Her powers were bad because once people (the Asa, the family and Tobias) found out that she had unlimited potential, the show took a spin for the worst. It became less about him and more about her being absurdly powerful. Also, Jennifer would never be in any real danger
@killah_disciple1
@killah_disciple1 3 года назад
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu I think it was her lack of experience and temper that were her weaknesses. I was always waiting to see Jefferson train his daughters properly but we never really got that. It was always him telling them to stay out of the fight and them defying him only to make the situation worse. They never learned. It was frustrating.
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 3 года назад
@@AltFactuals Yeah I think I've criticized the lack of danger or physical vulnerability as a result of her power in the past as a problem with the show. I think I did. I don't remember for sure if I did but I think I have but I don't know for sure.
@sistarkenyasue2078
@sistarkenyasue2078 5 месяцев назад
The music score was something , really raised the game . Also because of memories attatched to My Jams. Why they chose NOT to bring the Metaverse Heros to support Freedland during the isolation, missed opportunity.
@damonmilline9227
@damonmilline9227 3 года назад
I hate to say it, but they always do this to black shows. Not to mention they focused on the women, which is a whole other story within its self. ARE WE REALLY SURPRISED! BLACK SUPER POWER!!!!!!!
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
We can say there is a pattern when shows like this come out regarding black characters
@user-ju4ew6hn1i
@user-ju4ew6hn1i 3 года назад
But it had black writers, they simply tried the woke format and it failed should have just followed the superman and lois format and made their aim presice
@LooseAsADEUCE
@LooseAsADEUCE 3 года назад
No what you've said is logical. I agree with all of them for the most part. I would add: -They couldn't balance the street/Freeland level and the national/global threats. There is no reason (aside from not being able to afford Jill Scott) why Lady Eve shouldn't have been the S1 overarching villain. Let Tobias take over in S2, deal with Gravedigger with an Outsiders type story in S3, and if S4 is still the end let Tobias come back to be defeated in that one. That would've given them a steady increase of the threat level up to where they end how they started: with Black Lightning taking the streets back. -Too many unnecessary side plots. This was really a problem in S2 with the Purdee/Sanjay nonsense but it was kinda an ongoing problem. They really needed to streamline things. -Not enough connection to the larger Arrowverse. I know people have varying opinions on The Flash, Arrow, Legends, Supergirl, and Batwoman, but we can't pretend like the shared universe doesn't help keep them all afloat. Black Lightning not having any connections to the rest of the shows or any crossover appearances besides like 5 minutes in the last one didn't do it any favors because it felt like a side story to the shared universe that it should have been a part of.
@chcltroses
@chcltroses 3 года назад
I love everything about this comment.
@marcelinovazquez5128
@marcelinovazquez5128 11 месяцев назад
The main problem why Black Lightning didn't make much connections to the Arrowverse is because the show was filmed in Atlanta, Georgia while the rest of shows were filmed in Vancouver, Canada. This was why there wasn't much crossovers despite the fact that fans wanted a crossover between Flash and Black Lightning
@MrTooSerious96
@MrTooSerious96 3 года назад
Good video all facts bro. Definitely cant wait for more videos on this🤘🏾
@bonaelzee
@bonaelzee 3 года назад
As a fan of Arrowverse and the comics, I felt they did Black Lightning wrong. Like you said, he never went into his black lighting form. Even on Young Justice. Jennifer because OP compared to her dad too early without much build up. It also felt weird that Black Lightning had no crossover episodes with the rest of the Arrowverse
@cyshadowx
@cyshadowx Год назад
in the comics Jefferson is acrobatic he didnt just fight crime in the hood on gamgs .they kept the show in the hood same ol thing why didnt we see Lynns brother John Steward that same green lantern is Lyyns older brother .why didnt they hire better fight choreographerss it felt cheap and rushed
@3rdEyeMangekyoRinnegan
@3rdEyeMangekyoRinnegan 3 года назад
For me I couldn't get past the shrew Wife.. You never seen any superhero get Gaslit, or henpecked by their female counterpart to this level, or ever. She made me stop watching the show after season 1
@ghostt21
@ghostt21 3 года назад
And the award for Brutally Honest Truth, goes to you Sir👏🏾
@jasonpower6578
@jasonpower6578 Год назад
Also a problem would be most of the villains are like gang members and cops. I mean y’all are superheroes. I’m sure there are villains who don’t just threaten black people but the entire human race.
@devinknox7558
@devinknox7558 3 года назад
tbh season 2 and 4 were the weakest of the bunch, as for the angry black man trope jefferson was basically mad most of the time, his powers just weren't allowed to reflect that.
@KyeEnzoden
@KyeEnzoden 2 года назад
If we're not getting any more Seasons, we need a Justice League Series with Black Lightning in it. They've already set it up. 🤷‍♂️
@PolarisCastillo
@PolarisCastillo 3 года назад
What do you think of the possible drama between the actors who played Jeffersom and Jenn? Or the lack of scenes between them by season 4?
@karalynspeaks4267
@karalynspeaks4267 2 года назад
Lady Eve came back to life and then didn’t do anything ? Nothing behind the scenes or teaming up with Tobias when taking over freeland ? Maybe I missed this plot but it did not make sense
@adamlouie1503
@adamlouie1503 3 года назад
And yet it's still one of the best DC cw shows
@JetBfly
@JetBfly Год назад
They lost me when black lightning was gone and he's kids got powers too!
@roguedexx938
@roguedexx938 3 года назад
CW Agenda (Holiwood) (Black) Family constantly in mess The straight couple messed up never can have a happy marriage Even though the show started with Jeff wanting Lynn back. Intelligent black women had to be gay or addicts The gay couple in great relationship The show had a GREAT black agenda but sometimes it overpowered the fact the show was a SuperHero show in a Wide World! It really could have been so much more
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
Trust me there were a few things that I wanted to add but there will be a part two.
@gilbertmillers4865
@gilbertmillers4865 2 года назад
Agreed
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 3 года назад
Yes. It started out good in season 1. Peaked middle of season 2 and never really got back to quality. Only was occasionally good after that. The finale was especially bad. You don't do a series finale like that. Jeff and Lynn engaged OFF SCREEN???!!!!!! COME ON NOW!!!! The final scene. The final family get together. Arguably probably the most important scene in the entire series and they messed up SOOO BAD!!! They were practically socially distancing on set during that scene. You'd think they'd have some kind of final group hug or embrace or something. Having Jen dance in the chair and tell Anissa to dance with her in their chairs was probably clear indication that that's what they were doing. It's like when they shot that scene the director or producers weren't even tryna hide that they were social distancing if that's what they were doing by actually using Jen's dialogue to practically tell us that's what they were doing. Maybe they felt that the scene needed Jen to say that so that the audience would know why they weren't truly able to interact in that scene but the scene probably would have been better without her saying that. Dancing in a chair and telling everyone to join you doing it probably would have looked dumb in any situation or setting. But the fact that the family couldn't truly interact in that final scene was the problem. Tobias death i criticized how they made it look like Jeff killed him on purpose while at the same time tryna write it as a self defense or heat of the moment thing by simply having him go "Wait Tobias we can find another way" only to literally shoot lightning at him right after. The dialogue was tryna make it look like it was a no choice situation but knowing Jeff and his powers and usual way of handling armed attackers with defensive force fields, he probably could have easily done that instead. He's been in countless heat of the moment situations with firearms and practically by instinct never kills anyone. Jen coming back in the finale and getting not one scene with Jeff. Not one moment in the final scene. That might have been the worst thing about the finale other than Jeff and Lynn getting engaged OFF SCREEN!!! The finale messed up ways that will be very harmful to it's legacy. I think I considered it the worst comic book show of all time after that finale. But there's probably still one show I dislike more so. Maybe more than one. I don't know.
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
It was a bad ending for sure but they fumbled some important parts of this show when they could’ve done better.
@chcltroses
@chcltroses 3 года назад
they definitely could have done a lot better with that final fight. Superheroes aren't supposed to kill. That is what makes them different from the villains. they could have shown us the struggle BL had with not killing the man who killed his father in front of him. Then that line, "Tobias, we can find a different way" would have meant so much more, if Tobias had shown he had some good in him. Also A little more Background on why Tobias didn't like black people would have given him a different level to him being a villain
@DonMegaPLP
@DonMegaPLP 3 года назад
Season 3 made me quit the show. Had some good ideas but it was just weighed down and nonsensical
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
I think season 3 took the most risk but I feel like they just didn’t know what to do with him
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 3 года назад
Season 3 took didn't feel like Black Lightning. Felt like it was over politicized. Too much about government and politics and dehumanized it going completely against the original more character driven and family driven and community dynamic. It didn't have any heart it seemed like. I've called it the worst season of the show. There was little to no personal conflict or personal connection of the characters to the story that was going on. ASA and Markovia were largely impersonal adversaries. The Gravedigger reveal at the end felt like a desperate or forced attempt to make things personal but it was pretty late in the game for them to establish any type of personal connection to make it compelling. Both his debut and the revelation of him being Jeff's uncle were practically at the end of the season.
@RayRayCrazy
@RayRayCrazy 3 года назад
Season 3 would have been a great miniseries! I still think it’s the best season in terms of action and cinematography.
@JcgLounge
@JcgLounge 2 года назад
Season 4 actually felt more politicized. Season 3 had its moments but I still thought it was an overall fine season. Season 4 left me disappointed.
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 2 года назад
@@JcgLounge how was season 4 more political than 3?
@JcgLounge
@JcgLounge 2 года назад
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu Me personally, they leaned too much into some of the BLM aspects. Like that one part at the end of one of the episodes where the couple had their house invaded by police. It was supposed to be representing the Breonna Taylor situation. Let’s not forget about the fact that at the very beginning of the season, we see a young black boy just get jumped by cops. Then when Jeff came to ask what was going on they pull their guns on him. Yeah sure because that’s definitely real. Man wasn’t even trying to engage violently and you just whip out your guns? Like I get that police brutality on black people has been a thing with this series ever since it started. But did they really have to take it to that level? I didn’t wanna be reminded of all the chaos that happened last summer.
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 2 года назад
@@JcgLounge that's always been a part of the show. I think the problem with Season 3 is they decided to move away from more personal or close hitting issues to the characters or to the audience to more global or international stuff that had virtually nothing to do with the characters.
@twistedtrees597
@twistedtrees597 3 года назад
Loved black lighting, until it started playing into the media at the time.
@jonathansoko1085
@jonathansoko1085 2 года назад
Show is OKAY especially when considering its CW and i plan to rewatch it, surely its better than the train wrecks that are naomi and batwoman (the 2 worst shows in history). I like it and hate it at the same time. The main actor i think is great, i think with good writing, he would be pefect as the roll. But i am a fairly large BL fan, since the 80s at least. I urge you to read an issue of the comics, its called "the other history of the dc universe" issue #1, its a BL throwback issue giving you his point of view being a black hero in the early days of the dcu, in the 70s and its so original, the way its written and it takes into consideration what was going on in the world and how someone like him would be thinking about the world, and the justice league. At first i was turned off, to be real with you, as non american i do not understand americas obsession with race and skin color and the need to make every comic and movie about it, but i digress on taht, thats for another time. But half way into the issue it hit me, Riddley, the author, is a master. I was like ahhhhhhhhhhh i see what you are doing here. On the digital issue its page #32, its him turning down the jl's offer, read it, take it in. Its a masterclass in how to do this stuff and that one page is EXACTLY how all of us tired of the race and gender swapping amongst a bunch of other "issues". I do hate that this show is another hollywood bait and switch, like hawkeye was and masters of the universe, all 3 shows are all about the woman instead of the main character. Id love to see your thoughts on that comic i mentioned, and the specific page and issue as a whole, the interactions with john Stewart were so good. Check it... Also BL being angry and battling with himself is a pretty big part of him, it leads to all kinds of good stories in the books. BL needs some justice.. Id love a BL show with GOOD writing that isnt focused on race and it be about him not the women on the show instead
@karlsingh9076
@karlsingh9076 3 года назад
Tell me which background music track was used for this video. I want to look it up on RU-vid
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
This is my song, this isn’t available anywhere.
@Sentinel3D
@Sentinel3D 3 года назад
For me, the old school music was a problem. I’m from that era, but I can't get behind Black lightning getting his ass kicked while James Brown sings Payback. Can't get behind Earth Wind And Fire playing on the finale fight of season 2. Can't get behind people singing and rapping so loud that you can't hear soft dialogue. Black movies should follow the same tried and true rules of Hollywood. I never liked Barry Gordy's The last Dragon because it felt more like a jukebox than a movie. When a hero is in a tense situation, I'd rather hear tense music, even if the LYRICS are applicable to the situation, that's not how cinema works. For instance, I'm just a girl, on the final big fight in Captain Marvel. Never heard the song before. Don't know the lyrics. All I know is that it wasn't apropos. It wasn't cinematic. And also, even if men held her back in her past, NO ONE in the movie was holding her back because she was just a girl. Last, And I'm surprised no one brought this up, I wonder what Black Lightning did for vaccine hesitancy. I still own Black Lightning #1. There was no vaccine conspiracy in it. Black lightning came out at the wrong time for Covid.
@chcltroses
@chcltroses 3 года назад
It was out before covid. But you are right. there was no vaccine controversy.
@layback76
@layback76 2 года назад
Facts! The fighting music killed it for me also. That was mad corny. And also the older daughter was very annoying. I stopped watching after the first season.
@downlaw
@downlaw 3 года назад
The whole thing seemed like father hate. They had 3 female family members and none of them like him. They were all there to drag him all day.
@blacklightningfrance
@blacklightningfrance 2 года назад
Hi Alternative Factuals, I created a petition for season 5 and spin offs of Black Lightning we need help to share this
@jashardwallington
@jashardwallington 3 года назад
As a big fan of the comic book character i was disappointed
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
Agreed
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
I liked the show up until season 3 but I was still disappointed when it came to some choices
@jashardwallington
@jashardwallington 3 года назад
@@AltFactuals i got very bored of the show then i found out it was ending so i was like eh ill catch the last episode an i had the a blank face for the finale like..... Really
@TheAdventuretrainerRuby
@TheAdventuretrainerRuby 3 месяца назад
If I could be bothered I'd make a 30min long video about why I dislike the show. But since I found this video I will just post it here: The show really spins their weels. Just like all CW shows, the relationship dramas is their biggest focus and is what kills them all the time. Jefferson and Lin literally cannot stop arguing or fighting. Like I remember in season 4 there was an episode of them arguing, splitting up and going their own way. Only for the next episode to have them reconcile their differences and get togheter. But then they would argue again the episode right afterwards and it game me so much headache having to go through the same scenes over and over. And then there is Jennifer who is probably the worst character I've ever had the displeasure of watching. From what I remember at the start she's a little girl finding her place in the world, respecting her father's teaching and I enjoyed that. Then she gets powers and doesn't know how to control them, but works on it, which I still enjoyed. But then there will be a lot (and I can count on 2 occasions) where Jennifer will be so overconfident in her powers that she will take matters into her own hands and try to deal with Tobias at the same time as her friends/family are going to. This only lead to her failing, badly and putting everyone at risk or ruining their chance. And what does Jennifer do? Does she reflect and adjust herself to get better? Hmmm, no she just does it again and becomes truly arrogant. I really want to punch her in the face and I honestly thought the actress was at fault for a while. But then she gets into the accident where she changes body and I thought maybe this new actress will bring a new light to the character... and no it was the writing. Her writing sucked ass and I honestly hate watching her. The most stupidest/retarded action I saw her do, was when she lost her powers she tried to get them back. So she went to Aniissa and just "hi I had an idea, I will electrocute myself right in front of you with no warning and then I will get powers back". Like she didn't discuss this, think to much about and risked killing herself (and maybe Anissa considering she was less then a meter away) and somehow it ended up ok... Finally got that off my chest. Now I may rest 🎉
@zdwsindavis8964
@zdwsindavis8964 3 года назад
I agree with you but you forgot painkiller can we talk about painkiller next time and what's going on with the spinoff got her pain killer be going to HBO Max that's true cuz we need to talk about that soon as possible please
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
There will be another part of this video. I didn’t put everything in this video
@Ninjajp247
@Ninjajp247 3 года назад
I see that you had some classic Black lightning clips in there from scientist teacher Jefferson Pierce from the seventies who actually invented the suit. I don't want anyone to believe Black lightning had meta powers. He literally invented that suit to simulate the powers he actually manifested. It's like removing spidey's web shooters and pretending he wasn't smart. The true Staples of characters from the '60s and '70s is that not only are their characters based in science or are about science but that they were also smart enough to interpret extrapolate and then sometimes even manifest with that science and what their knowledge of it can do. Black lightning receiving actual meta powers is just like Spider-Man in "the other" getting full power from the spider God anansi. It makes zero sense.
@dwaundavis9294
@dwaundavis9294 2 года назад
I agree with you
@metatronblack
@metatronblack 3 года назад
My question to you is , what do you think about Hardware's new origin ?
@chcltroses
@chcltroses 3 года назад
He's a lot stronger when he's angry, but his lightning was already black in the comics. The show ticked me off because they took his kids and made them the stars. I think they should have made Jefferson the strongest. But with the villains, come on. Lady Eve, Gravedigger, Lala( i didn't like the way they made him) he could have been an ally Since he knew Jefferson from back in the day. Oh, and I didn't forget about Lynn and Lady Eve. Lynn was cool to me in the first season, especially when she pulled out that shotgun, lol. She was not about to let her family be killed, even if she didn't have powers herself. I loved that about her. But instead, they made her a whiny, self-centered woman, instead of showing her using her smarts and fixing her own addiction problems. If they wanted to have someone else help her, why not have Perena or Cloak and Dagger help her? Since they had Perrena helping Jen with her powers, to me, she could have just as easily been helping Lynn since Perrena's powers affect the mind. Now Lady Eve was another Tobias to me. She wasn't that bad. Of course, she wasn't in the show that much also. She had the same powers as Lala but not as strong. She was also put in a vat like Lala, to be resurrected. She did help the Peirce's in the end but after that, it was a wrap for her. She had the potential to be another ally for BL. I hated the final fight between BL and Tobias went, it was anticlimactic. This would have been a perfect chance to show us BL's black lightning. This was the man that killed his father in front of him and tried to destroy his family. SO how does Tobias die, by being blasted onto a flag pole?! My goodness. I know superheroes aren't supposed to kill their enemies, but this fight could have shown us BL's fight to show mercy and not kill Tobias. Just have him locked up again. I didn't like Anissa. She was doing too much. How was she able to pull off being two different superheroes? LOL, I can go on for days about her but I won't. I think I have said enough, lol
@keithbrown7911
@keithbrown7911 2 года назад
E
@jashardwallington
@jashardwallington 3 года назад
You kno it explains why i stopped watchin for a bit it didnt show him to his full potential an the kinda emasculated him a lil bit i felt an i got bored
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
He was very stagnant in a few cases
@jashardwallington
@jashardwallington 3 года назад
@@AltFactuals i felt he was gettin punked fr
@jahsilent1
@jahsilent1 2 года назад
too many people die come bk
@cdogg46
@cdogg46 Год назад
9:40 that's why they should've stopped at s3
@jamesgregg6364
@jamesgregg6364 3 года назад
Awesome
@nunya5230
@nunya5230 3 года назад
3:54 who is BL fighting
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
He was fighting geo-force
@coreyoden2866
@coreyoden2866 3 года назад
I love the show, but his costume is awful.
@jashardwallington
@jashardwallington 3 года назад
Young justice did his character better
@chcltroses
@chcltroses 3 года назад
they sure did. I also like that he wasn't beat for Batman and his antics.
@xMister.Misterx
@xMister.Misterx Год назад
Jennifers acting was HORRIBLE
@eazee292
@eazee292 3 года назад
the actor who played tobias was cringy
@darylifillifill1677
@darylifillifill1677 3 года назад
Black Lightning got canceled because they found their white version Superman and Lois Living single and Friends Chuck Berry and Elvis New kids on the block New edition It's tradition They thought they had the sabotage the black male character to promote everyone else And that last season was a white Supremacists wish list
@user-ju4ew6hn1i
@user-ju4ew6hn1i 3 года назад
It had black writers stop blaming it on race plus superman and lois enjoy hbomax budget while the other superhero shows only had cw budget
@darylifillifill1677
@darylifillifill1677 3 года назад
@@user-ju4ew6hn1i what are you defending
@user-ju4ew6hn1i
@user-ju4ew6hn1i 3 года назад
@@darylifillifill1677 I'm not defending anything or anyone we can't play the race card for black lightning when black people had control over production, they simply got it wrong hopefully others learn from this when putting out new content like the rumored black superman series rumored to be done by hbomax.
@darylifillifill1677
@darylifillifill1677 3 года назад
@@user-ju4ew6hn1i who came up with the phrase race card and Racism is apart of every part of this Society How many racial diggs did they take at black folk in the arrowverse
@user-ju4ew6hn1i
@user-ju4ew6hn1i 3 года назад
@@darylifillifill1677 I'm not saying racism isn't a part of society nor I'm I saying diggs wasn't thrown at us black people (if they were), what I'm saying is this show had black scriptwriters and a black showrunner but I'm telling you this as a comic book fanboy they failed to capture the essence of black lightning. By me saying race card I meant that we can't blame race when black people were the ones running the sure and if you imply it's CW fault they did the same for All American and that show is still going on.
@teressamcneal-dd1cb
@teressamcneal-dd1cb Год назад
Iwatched it all twice it was very racist
@LataureanEzell
@LataureanEzell 3 года назад
The Markovia arc was so disappointing. I was expecting an epic fight between Brion/Geoforce and BL like the one they had in the comics were they literally leveled a couple blocks, buuut nooooo we don't get that. Naw what we get instead is a black washed Brion, who looked like he was a missing member of the damn Migos smh. I'm sorry but black washing traditional white characters is lame asf and it needs to stop we have too many original dope black characters for this to even be a thing. This show should have followed a younger BL IMO.
@chcltroses
@chcltroses 3 года назад
thats right, Geoforce was supposed to be a prince . I remember him from young justice. I knew something was off about his character. It didn't click (for me) when they mentioned Geoforce, until after it ended.
@LataureanEzell
@LataureanEzell 3 года назад
@@chcltroses the show had potential, the acting was decent enough but then, they screwed up too many things. This stuff is difficult to watch when you're like me still an advent comic reader.
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 3 года назад
Gambi's character was one of the worst things about the show. A Gary Stu. Practically a plot device or Deus ex machina type character who could get the Pierces out of anything and possibly undermining them as characters in the process and making them look incompetent. Not only that he was a disgusting human being if I'm not mistaken. He tortured a guy and gouged his eyeball out. Killed some people in season 2 after torturing them for info. Guy never really shook his violent past. And mostly got away with it to retire peacefully. The character did add to the show as a father figure to Jeff and would have served as great fodder for Jeff's character development and story honestly had they chose to kill him off during the final season or final few episodes. But they didn't.
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
His character wasn’t perfect but he was the dude you went to in order to get information and if he didn’t know he could get and was willing to cross the line to do it. His character made sense in regards to sometimes you have to get dirty to get what you need. Black Lightning doesn’t kill, so his ability to get info is limited by the fact people know he won’t kill them. I didn’t mind him getting them out of issues BUT his character was alive too long.
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu
@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu 3 года назад
@@AltFactuals Maybe he needed to get a little edgy but he probably ain't need to cause death in the process. If the writers are willing to go to that territory there should at least be consequences for it. A superhero show probably shouldn't let protagonists engage in that type of behavior without paying for it. Without it catching up to them in some type of way. For the sake of a proper narrative that doesn't accept or even glorify despicable behavior. But instead he got to ride off into the sunset practically with no justice for the victims or some type of display of remorse. I don't know.
@AltFactuals
@AltFactuals 3 года назад
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu true, in general there wasn’t too many consequences
@chcltroses
@chcltroses 3 года назад
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu Wasn't Gambi in some way responsible for Jefferson's dad being killed? and Wasn't he also the reason Jefferson wound up getting the shot that made him a metahuman?
Далее
Black Lightning Season Finale Was Bad and Here's Why
14:45
The Boys: Everything They Changed From The Comics
15:45
ОНА ОПЯТЬ ПОЁТ 😱
3:05:53
Просмотров 1,2 млн
Hurricane Milton Extreme Surge Wind Slams Sarasota, FL
03:59
Why is Fear The Walking Dead SO BAD?!
11:53
Просмотров 30 тыс.
How Spider-Man's Web Swinging Changed
19:03
Просмотров 202 тыс.
Static Shock's Powers vs Black Lightning's
12:22
Просмотров 54 тыс.
Ultimate Spider-Man Is Hard to Defend
42:14
Просмотров 2,1 млн
Why So Many Black Characters Use Electricity
9:55