they did so many things right in the movie. I particularly like how Homelander takes off by doing a swimming stroke and a laser that actually cut everything
-strong enough to pull a freight train -strong enough to punch kimiko through a wall -strong enough to one shot starlight in a fight just by shoving her -fast enough to find anybody just by running through a city -could litterally steal anything and everything from vought and everyone as easily as he stole stormfronts nazi files -probrably could've killed bluehawk without breaking a sweat if he didn't have heart disease If only this man chose to do something other than suck up to vought and homelander just to stay in the 7
Speedsters are never done right, because if they were, then the comics, shows, movies, etc. would be boring. Super speed is easily one of the strongest, if not THE strongest, superpower there is. The speedster has to be overly cocky (The Flash), have a drug addiction(A-train), or just be monumentally stupid (CW's Flash) in order for their powers to not eclipse everyone else's.
super speed just means that when someone DOES hit you, that force is going to be amplified by how ridiculously fast youre moving at that moment. also, as omni man says "he could run fast. not exactly your premier super power."
@@elementblue780 A-train just could punch homelander while breaking sound barrier and he is done for LIKE HE DID FOR HIS GIRLFRIEND , or just punch thousands of time with his speed if he was smart :D
All speedsters have super durability and super strength. If you can move insanely fast, then you should be able to lift more, and if you can survive going at Mach 10 speed, then you have super durability.@@elementblue780
@@wtfzaee the boom is him breaking the sound barrier but the train noise is caused by a chest piece on his costume this was confirmed by the costume designers
Actually Homelander was brutally trained as well. When he was a baby (not as tough yet) Vought would hire ex-military and adult supes to beat down on him, HARD. So, he has black-ops level of hand-to-hand combat, with the specialization of super-strength thrown in. Remember that martial art is based around the relative strength/durability ratio. Take Omni-man, for example. Vultramites are more strong than they are durable. Therefore, they can use their hands to slice and dice one another, and grappling/wrestling would be useless (as long as one Vultramite grabs another, the second one can put their fist through their stomach for one hit KO). Now take Homelander vs Soldier Boy. They are the opposite - their durability is greater than their strength. So much fighting, and for what? A couple bruises? When Homelander fights on equal ground, martial art resembles pillow fight more than it does resemble classical MMA fight human VS human contest would entail - lots of collateral damage, many punches, little to no impact or damage. Hence, Homelander’s fighting style is optimized in a martial-art perspective - grappling, wrestling and chokeholds are FAR more effective when your opponent is more durable, but does not have the strength to resist or escape them well. So, contrary to popular belief of “Homelander/Superman are bad at fighting, bohooo”… that is not the case. Very far from it
@@kingol4801homelander has got training but it’s not as good for when he goes up against people like butcher with powers Butcher is trained SAS and can beat many people in a 1v1 homelander managed to do good against him in the fight cause butcher was still learning his powers compared to homelander who has been using them for decades I would say give butcher time to learn his powers and he would beat homelander in a 1v1 but homelander would manage to win if he uses his flight to his advantage
Wait, only now i realized how unrealistic is fight with Starlight. No matter how fast you are light always travels at the speed of light regardless frame of reference. So even if he could speed up to 99.99% of light speed, her beams should be instant for him anyways.
Bold of you to assume, superhero TV shows would follow basic physics. But yeah, this bothered me too. Dude can see light in slo-mo? That's just not possible. It was a blasphemy. Besides he can barely break the speed of sound. Light is waaaaay faster than that.
It's not travelling at the speed of light, if it was you wouldn't be able to see it. You can only see light after it has bounced off of an object, otherwise it's moving to fast.
I've done a little research. That train is an EMD F40PH, it weights an total of 120 tons, That added to the 3 passenger cars that weigh no more than 30 tons, you can see that my boy is not only fast but also incredibly strong
Do you know that pulling is way too easier than for example, throwing? Like you can search on yt some videos of people (great athletes btw) pulling trains, the whole trick is in resistance force - if same weight, as that train but in the ship body was pulled by the same athlete, it’d be easier for them, cause resistance force been weakened again compared to that train 🤓👆
0:43 i love how they show him like he arrived.. but actor is always just there :D they cheat showing him many many times.. and just BOOMMMM.. camera turns left.. there he is
love that despite there being so many speedstrs like flash with his electric crackles or quicksilver sounding so smooth, you have this guy who just sounds like such a terrifying force just pulled up at the train station
@@ShoddyBog the history is that it was a laboratory rat used by vought corp, and the rat managed to escape and drank weird fluids that made him bigger, super fast and spikes growed in his back
If u look overall, A-Train is insanely strong. He was pulling a literal train in season 1. But here we are talking about Homelander. I think the ranking goes like this: Homelander > Soldier Boy > Maeve > A-Train > Kimiko > Noir > Deep > Starlight. But here we are only comparing physical strength. Else, Neuman should come after Maeve(as I don't know if she can burst Maeve's head or not).
Just for comparison, the canonic speed of A-Train in the series is around 800 miles an hour. But let's see... The slow motion scenes runs at around 10% of the original speed, and he is running in normal speed. For context, if someone sees everything at 0.1x speed, the person should be at 99.5% of the speedof light. If the series claim to be physically realistic (e.g. Homelander can't find support points in an airplane for a landing). If it IS PHYSICALLY REALISTIC IN ALL TERMS, then yeah, Homelander would NEVER catch A-Train, even when flying. A-Train is so powerful that Homelander spares him in the milkshake scene, cause he KNEW how powerful A-Train is... If the series is really realistic, then A-Train runs almost at light speed.
The difference is that A-Train has super strength separate to his speed. The Flash doesn’t. If Flash wants to push something, or punch someone really hard, he needs to be using the Speed Force / his super speed to do it. A-Train could lift you overhead with one arm in normal time, Barry Allen\Wally West without using super speed wouldn’t be able to do that.
The faster Flash moves, the more powerful his punches become, due to how the faster something travels, the denser it becomes. When A-Train hit Kimiko through that concrete wall, Flash could do that, but only if he was moving crazy fast.
@Ethan-hk8se That's literally incorrect. Barry does have enhanced strength. Maybe not on the level of Superman, but enhanced beyond that of a normal human being. And here is thing about his acceleration. It's near instantaneous. He doesn't need to run around to get fast. The Flash has several instances of what is known as a Plank Instant. He is massively faster than light. He can stand still and vibrate his own body so quickly it causes his own molecules to phase in and out.
@@Toasted-Cathe would've killed him self since compound V has a higher chance of killing adult than babies, thats why he was having heart attacks everytime he runs
@@luffyxrubber It doesn't surprise me considering you're actively asking for them. But even knowing some key facts doesn't give you the full experience
The average train car is about 50 tons so A train was at least pulling almost 200 tons, he also punched the human through a brick wall. A train is so fast he can practically stop time while himself being fully aware and functional, I believe a train is capable of doing extreme damage to homelander. I mean he could probably chuck 1 or 2 ton cars at homelamder at machine gun pace and easily dodge any counter
bro the boys show is so good man like the detail. A-train shaking the floor when he runs off the car shakes aswell AND THE AMAZING SOUND WHEN HE RUNS OFF SHEESH
He doesn't have to be faster than light, he just has to be faster than her reflexes. If he can anticipate where she is about to shoot light and dodge just before she shoots, maybe he could avoid her attacks without actually outrunning light.
@@abduljah9355 This is not whether he can beat Starlight. I've always said that speedsters are generally the most powerful characters and no one should ever be able to beat them. The point is, however, he should not be faster than light. Now what's coming out of her hands/body? Everything I'm reading says she absorbs electrical energy and shoots out "light energy". Even if it was just electrical energy she's shooting out, that moves near the speed of light. A-Train, from everything I'm reading, can run up to Mach 3, or 2,300 miles per hour. Super fast, but clearly no where close to the speed of light. Again, however, he should clearly be able to beat her. Quite frankly, nobody should be able to beat someone moving at Mach 3. Homelander seems impervious to anything, so I'm not saying A-Train should be able to beat him, but the reverse is also true. Homelander isn't fast enough to ever catch A-Train. Most super hero stories nerf speedster powers to "even things out".
actually homelander moves pretty fast in running speed theres an animation of it in the boys diabolical series where the guards have their guns pointed at homelander but homelander straight up uses his speed to grab their guns. I'll save you the time and just give you the source right here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QOlDWtugH_M.html skip to 1:38 in the video @@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 I don’t know about Homelander he was able to save Billy Butcher, literally as an explosion went off and he didn’t do it before it was basically during it And he was able to gather himself and Billy Butcher out of the explosion without harm I think that scales aboves a train speed
So no one gonna talk about the fact that this dude is faster than light????? This guy can actually take on Homelander. He can outspeed his lasers and his flight.
@@BrandonLacruzArt No I mean light. Look at how he is fighting Starlight. The spots of light in the environment are literally frozen as he moves toward Starlight.
@@Genesis-em5fhI sure hope the writers of season 5 reads our comments and film this scene with A Train according instead of killing him off with no good fight
But that would only work if he could get that fast, which unfortunately he can’t. If A-Train could run at light speed, he’d quite literally be unbeatable. Even without an infinite mass punch, if he was just moving at the speed of light NOTHING could touch him, not even Homelander’s heat vision.
The only way a science fiction can be considered realistic is thinking it as the existing thoughts of the authors. If not it's just fiction But I do agree with you about this cooler and a bit more "physics-friendly" Flash
Just poor writing nothing more. A-train runs at 400 meters per second which is fast but nothing compared to light speed. The show did a very bad job at showing the power scaling of supes, just like the herogasm fight. Homelander should be way faster and punch way harder. Plus he didn't even use his flying power. And I'm not even talking about the scar he had because of the punches. Like Homelander is supposed to be immune to all weapons ( including nukes ) but he got injured by a punch that didn't even feel that strong and fast... 😂 The show is great but the writing is very bad sometimes.
@@makeitsonumberone1358 it was also very clearly used in the show to his hypocrisy, there's the entire scene where he gets shouted at for only caring about "collateral" when his loved ones are involved. If you look through all that and just see BLM pandering instead of a blatant call out to how only those with power get justice served, idk man
