Konami keeps printing cards that let you give your opponent monsters and then acting surprised when players immediately find a way to use them as floodgates.
"it seems fun! You give them a sangan so you get a free search and deal damage" this is what the design team is thinking when they design bullshit like branded expulsion
@@Timikatorlore those cards originally made for duel terminal machine, which locked into dt universe cards only, you only can play gusto against opponent ice barrier etc.
I mean... that one comment about Ash isn't wrong. In almost any version of a branded deck, BF better respond or that's curtains. Ash? Better have crossout or cbtg, otherwise that's your whole turn. It doesn't speak on the power of Ash, it speaks on how konami made a deck rely on one very powerful card that loses to one interaction.
That has not been my experience playing branded in masterduel. Plus branded runs multiple cards that can bait an ash or fuse through other methods like Cartesia or despia theatre. Which equals 2 fusions if you have a tearlament in hand. Branded fusion is it's best card but not it's only option. Plus you can't xyz into monsters if you use branded fusion, so for formats where abyss dweller or some other xyz(that's compatable with the deck) is good, not using fusion is better
@@tobysmith2081good player always save their ash for bf its just a reality check expecially in tear case you bringing up with how restrictive tear in md they would expect tear with another engine, maybe you have some lucky time since most md player are casuals that didnt do that.
Chimera Branded actually just uses Branded Fusion as an additional starter because it can dump Gazelle to search the Coatl or Mirror Swordsman. The Branded part of the deck is an additional engine to support the Chimera cards.
I'ma be real. You can ban puppet but people just hardly play it now because of how fragile it already is now expulsion is gone. Just because it CAN be done doesn't mean it's going to be optimal. If it's stopped by anything you're likely ending on next to nothing with how much investment it requires in an opener. Hell, I've played the deck, had the lock available but didn't go for it entirely because it lost to any interaction under the sun over what was a far more solid line. I don't understand why we have people clown on a deck losing to ash while then saying in the same breath "noo too good I don't like it". Branded is just one of the rare decks in the game where with all its good support cards there's a lot of directions you can take your own deck, there's not really a correct way to play but because of that every player thinks they have the secret sauce so of course you get its playerbase saying it's the best deck but it doesn't do much. Everyone wants to feel they're that one player who is going to secretly make top cut with their own branded list and most don't. But that's just yugioh players being yugioh players, is it that bad that a base thinks they have the secret tech to win? That's every player. I don't think branded fusion is a problem when its ceiling will always be capped by the extra deck fusions you can make with it and with how tight its extra is, and at the end of the day it's still basically just a foolish burial for 1, Albaz itself isn't an interaction unless you have other things to support it. I'm biased, I like branded, I think branded mirrors are some of the most fun games I've played in yugioh, and I've made some friends in tournament because of it, it's fun seeing what differences in card choices others play and what they value more. Why would we want to take that away for "Eh it's been around a long time and good". So has sky striker, and with arguably just as avid of a base, but just because statistically one person tops an event here and there with a deck does that warrant it being axed? You can argue branded fusion does too much and the deck's identity revolves around one card but it's not unintentional that the fusion deck with it's own archetypal fusion card relies on it. It's like saying shaddoll relies too much on shaddoll fusion resolving. Or invoked relies too much on Aleister. But it's only because those decks aren't remotely good at the moment that no one makes complaints about them anymore, meanwhile branded has a lot of representation but not as much the results to back it up and people still complain. That's my rant, I'm not playing victim, I like Branded because it's always going to be as good as the player and rewards skillful play to a degree, but you can't complain a deck is too strong AND that it dies to everything, just pick a lane.
There is no way you dont play puppet. You know you can get a puppet lock off a single nadir servant right? And you also have several discarding effects in your combos anyway. Youd be stupid not to play it
@@Aryzo Again. Just because you CAN do it doesn't mean it's always optimal, if you have even an inkling your opponent can interrupt you you'll have next to nothing to do because all your investment has been put into making roughly 2 fusions in Sanctifire and Grangruignol for 1 piece of interaction that's stopped by any GY interaction whatsoever like a bystial, and doing a puppet lock against Labrynth for example makes you look like an idiot, and in the words of my friend "You can give Kashtira literally anything, it doesn't matter unless you hard open birth." There's no amount of gas in an opening hand you'll ever have to where you can put out something like a dragoon to insulate yourself in addition to having to make Sanctifire, Grangruignol. You'd have to open...what? Exactly Branded fusion, Cartesia/dark magician, branded in white, and maybe frightur patchwork, all uninterrupted? Like that's a very specific hand. I'm not an advocate for puppet but I'm just saying it's a Boogeyman that a lot of players are off because it's fragile, requires more specific hands, and game one there's a chance your opponent may be on a deck that won't care to a degree and then you've wasted over half your hand on nothing. A lot of people post expulsion would rather just play your bog standard branded in red for chimera or masquerade with a Mirrorjade banish than risk it.
EXACTLY! Some of the mentioned cards are just some little guys that have good and proper restrictions (which I think a lot more cards should have had) and were only ever meant to be played in their respective decks, not intended to be given to your opponent at such a consistent rate.
I love Branded as a whole from both gameplay and lore. Love using Branded Despia with Tearlaments and Bystial to have access to different fusion that are generic or semi generic but the floodgates are problem since they most people will use those. I would just ban Albion the Sanctifire Dragon so that way they can’t access that Gimmick puppet monster.
I think the idea of banning the puppet instead of the card that enables the stupidity just cuz "fuck floodgates" is dumb. Those cards are legit unplayable without those dumb cards.
Something I'd like to add to the Puppet Lock glass cannon thing, if they don't set up any interruptions and you open a Bystial or something, they almost auto lose to that if they go for the lock (might be able to fuse or have big monsters, but no real interruptions). Not saying it makes it fair, just saying there's another reason they can be a glass cannon. If your locals has like 10 people on BD, play GY banishing HTs, might be able to stop Puppet Lock. And I ALWAYS open a Bystial...
On the topic of the floodgating, its like halqifibrax in a way. Skarlon wants you to ban "the tuners"(floodgates) instead of the enabler(sanctifire/fusion)
@@four-en-tee Its still boring, goes plus a million and is not a well designed card in general. Light and darks are the best attributes and foolishing one for free while doing your regular combo is kinda broken. May not lock the opponent out of the game right now without sanctifire but it could be in the future
@@roseignis3255like every card in yugioh and loses to a veiler infinite ash ghoust mourner etc. it‘s a strong card but every deck nowadays has a strong card but what males BF balanced is that you have to play bricks and it loses to the most popular handtraps with a 90% playrate
I love Branded it's possible to make so many different builds and boards without the use of negates. Just ban the new fusion that enables the lock or gimmick puppet. Don't touch the engine. Branded has a fair gameplay if you remove that.
@@bl00by_ Well most decks lose to Evenly. The only difference is if you have to bait their negations or kaiju them before playing it. But it is for sure a great weakness. It loses more to Ash or d barrier.
Very fair when my opponent adds back 3 cards in endphase, loops mirror jade 3 times, specials albaz during my turn with the GY setup from mirror jade and even more if they play a lulu
@@David-gp7qe 3 cards they will use next turn so you are free to interact with their current board. It's not hard to force them or bait them to use the stuff they had to set, litterally any board breaker will force them to activate stuff. Looping mirrorjade 3 times is note something people do not only because it would be hard, not only because most people only play 2 of them, but because you would have to dump 3 other monsters from extra deck and if they run out of Albion and Lubellion then they only have Cartesia left to be even able to play. Lulu is not played in all builds, is between her and Dis Pater, the extra deck space is thin enough that there isn't space for both, heck some lists don't play them in favor of stuff like a double dragoon or a Super-poly package. Summoning Albaz is like the least of your concerns, very few fusions do that when they die or do it before the end phase, even the situations where they can do it freely (there are some cards that do it), you can simply imperm the problematic card or just play around it, I assure you that most list only play 2 Albaz in the deck so they woul save it for Branded fusion if they can, if they don't you have turned all their Branded fusions in useless cards meaning they will struggle to rebuild any type of board presence. Also you are talking only about pure Branded, I assure you that all the other builds like predaplan-branded, Despia-branded, imvoked-branded, chimera-branded, bystial-branded(I call it like this but is basically a build with a lot more bystials, basically over all might have weaker boards but can destroy matchups where the oppo relies on the GY), etc.
im talking about looping the same mirror jade multiple times, doesnt matter if the cards in hand cant be used until next turn when their main interactions constantly get rid of bodies on your field. Every card in the archetype works towards recycling albaz so its not like 2 albaz is a limiting factor either. I dont think the deck is overpowered or anything, i just believe it needs a consistency hit so that playing 2nd into an established branded board isnt impossible unless you opened DRNM evenly or something crazy. Being hit by ash is just a consequence of foolish 2 cards for free. (btw foolish burial is at 1 for a reason)@@GRtogetaBIC
Ok so his problem with Branded is puppet lock right? So ban Albion not Branded Fusion, if both expulsion and Albion are ban them that combo won't exist. I understand that "foolish 2" is a strong eff but honestly almost all hand trap either stop or heavily disrupt Branded's combo line, stuff like Ash, Shifter etc... And that is the appeal of the deck, this glass cannon that can either setup 5 disruptions (and those are better than negates cause there are deck that can benefit from banish/destruction effs) or get fck by one Ash. Not liking a deck is not a reason to ban a necessary combo piece. Really with stuff like Kashtira blocking almost all your zones and setting a macro cosmo with legs and premium stat line or tear playing in both players turn or spright setting that annoying xyz frog + 2 to 3 negates and as far as i remember purley game plan is to setup a undestructeble boss monster that can't be target and has a giant stat line. At most branded sets up mirrojade (1 non-target banish) + branded in red for chimera (a destroy 2) and rinbrumn (the only negate of the deck). Branded only starts to became a problem when floodgate effs start coming to the frey so ban Albion and make it so you can't summon Puppet to the opponent's side so easily ( in master duel Albion doesn't even exist )
I find it interesting that people hate branded, when the worst thing branded did was summon gimmick puppet. Branded has never been tier 0 it’s come close but never been. I realize we are just going down a list of decks that are 2 powerful and it’s brandeds turn again now.
Fusion and ritual decks need hella search power and/or floating to combat the huge minus you go into summoning the monsters. They kind of need something like a brafu or insane consistency +gy effects to even be considered playable decks now. I think Cartesia is an example of it being done well in archetype. If you cut out brafu, then they need more cards like this or you just kill the deck. The fusion spell is only as good as the monsters it summons and dumps, so nobody complains about Neos Fusion. An issue stems from Branded fusion monsters being semi generic, so you can just foolish whatever light/dark monsters you want and go from there. Would people care as much if say, Albion and Lubellion required Albaz + 1 Despia monster, or if Rindbrumm required a Tri-Brigade or Springans monster? Half of the reason people hate it is because it sets up Regained + BiR for free by foolishing Bystials, or some cringe shit like Ido. What if you can't do that anymore because the deck wanted you to play more into the archetype? Curious to see what people think. I'm kinda middle of the road on Branded personally, I'm not gonna go mental if the deck dies, but I don't particularly hate it either.
Sprry fan, but i dont really see branded as an issue. The issue is Konami printing floodgate monsters that you can give to your opponent like: Ibbly, Ras Disciple,etc ... Like yeah, those cards are very often dogshit, but once Konami prints a card that doesn't make them bad everyone runs to play the damn thing. Just dont print a floodgate that you give to your opponent, its a bad design idea through and through.
This reminds me more of VW players after VFD got banned than Dark Magician players. "Nah bro trust me Chuche Shenshen pass is the best deck, you just don't know how to pilot it"
VW is still a very good multiple of 3 xyz and synchro engine. It is just sitting there waiting for konami to make another good generic boss monster that they can go into.
@@anacreon212 It's a 2 card combo deck which requires 2 specific cards to be even able to play. Which makes it very bricky, not to mention that a good placed ash can be a death sentence for many hands. Other 1-2 card combo decks don't need 2 specific cards to go off. Dragon Link is the best example, almost every 2 dragons lead you to something. VW is just not flexible enough imo.
@@anacreon212the only way vw can be a top deck without vfd is if shenshen is an ftk against other top decks in the format This only happened once since vfd's ban and it was after the july 2021 banlost, and even then vw was like the 3rd best deck
Yeah can someone explain to me the logic of not just errating or banning the actual abusable card here. Because its not like that card isn't abusable anymore right? Some day another deck can come around that allows for the same thing. They could plan around it but then they have to plan around every card thats like this. When just getting rid of the abusable cards while time consuming and possibly expensive fixes the problem for good.
Could use the same excuse to ban branded fusion because a free foolish burial for a light/dark aswell as a mirror jade at least can go very wrong as we get better targets for it
The errata here would be on Sanctifire and not its targets, negating the effects on the monster summoned to the opponent's field. What most Branded APOLOGISTS don't want to understand is that floodgate monsters are like "Artifact Scythe". Puppet IS NOT a floodgate, but a very negative card for the OWNER. The reason it can be used as a floodgate is Expulsion/Sanctifire, which essentially break card design, since any other potential combo to use them like Expulsion/Sanctifire do is as consistent as 15 garnet FTKs that can summon Holactie turn 1 with 1 card.
"Banning the main engine pieces so the deck becomes more fragile" ... but is still able to set up a lock. That is a very bad option, banning enablers is far better.
I understand banning the problem cards should be the right thing to do (like puppet) but banning Albion would be easier. Keep the card that summons on opponents field is the problem. And it can't be targeted. Deck is fine afterwards.
Branded Despia is symptom of competition meta. Either be unfair with floodgates or 5 interruptions/negates or it's completely trash. There's almost no in-between most of the time. The gap in power between 2 to 10 powerful cards vs 90 to 98 cards in a mainline core sets cannot be ignored.
I think you can apply the Eternal Format Massacre logic to this debate, like Branded in the OCG meta lasted a tad too long so to kick the deck from the OCG meta just limit Branfus and lo and behold Branded Despia was considered "other decks" in Road of the King usage charts. A deck that lived for far too long will get crippled hard by Konami. Or if you want to apply the Fenrir OCG ban logic, Branded can be used as engine in many fusion decks, limiting Branfus would cripple the splashability Tearlements? you look at the list and tell me how many tear cards were used compared to the splashed engine like PUNK and the recent Horus. Konami Dragon Ruler-ed Tear but the deck stays strong as ever and might get another hit like MD where Merly gets banned
@@davide94extreme39 LOL wrong, i play Dinomorphia while sometimes splashing in Branded cards. i'm just saying is if Branded is seen dominating again in the meta for one reason or another then i just look at how OCG handled branded in relation to previous banlists AKA depends if Branded is in the top cuts again or not
@@davide94extreme39 Calamity lock is an interesting case, it was not banned because that Jack Atlas SD has it otherwise the probability of getting banned is high because we all know so well Crimson Dragon is not getting the banhammer anytime soon. I'm not even saying anything about locking people with fusion summon decks, nobody complains when i lock the field with Rexsterm for god's sake like i said, look at the top cuts from regionals if you wanna see Konami acting on it. Those small things do happen hell i got Chaos max locked by drytron twice but i know goddamn well it's not getting banned anytime soon
The problem of banning archetypal floodgates is that, even though they may not be remotely good for their own archetype, they might still be a core piece for them. This is the case where banning the source is better than banning the targets, otherwise we'll have another Halq/Don incident.
"Ban the floodgates." Yes, ban multiple cards that are being used instead of the one thats making them usable. This is the guy who decided on keeping firewall for as long as they did.
In my opinion, the stronger the monster is, the harder to summon it should be (kinda uncontrollable in this game but nevermind this part). For example, Horus LV 8 is a monster that: -Has great effects (strong boi) -Hard af to summon by itself -"Meh" support that makes it easier to summon it Then, every single Branded boss fusion monster is: -Strong (nice) -Ridiculously easy to summon with fusion spell card support (Banded Fusion at the time was wild) -Has crazy Fusion ingredients (Aluber the Clown searches, Albaz makes love to your extra deck field)
Being locked into fusions doesnt change that much when konami made a lot of good fusion archetypes and broken fusion support. It cant be used in every deck sure but its still badly designed and will only get more unfair in the future
literally such a bad take. I do agree that branded is very poorly designed, and if branded fusion does resolve you "automaically win", the way to solve this problem is just ban the cards that allow the engine to be problematic. Oh you dont think its realistic to ban all of the floodgate cards? just ban sanctifire, i mean they banned expulsion which helped. You dont like the deck because its poorly desinged? there are worse designed cards/decks that are actualluy unhealthy for the game, if youy remove brandeds ability to summon to your opponents field it just becomes another deck. Branded fusion is only a real issue when they lock you out of the game but just remove the cards that allow that instead of hitting the engine. And the whole foolish 2 thing, you cant just foolish any card in the game there are limitaions like atributes and monster types, and the worst thing you can even foolsih is a floodgate so by banning sanctifire just stops floodgates from even being runnable, and there are other problematic decks that abuse way worse mechanics. Look at Kashtira whis is still a top 1 deck with unbearable floodgate mechanics, the deck is basically designed to lock your opponent out of the game
i do wanna make it known that i dont agree with skarlon his take on this is terrible but sayingh that branded is a part of a bigger issue is just not very accurate. its biggest issue relies on floodgates so ban sanctifie and any other card in branded that specials to the opponents field, then what problems does it have? "it can foolish 2" the deck is designed with that in mind and balanced it by only allowingh you to send semi specific cards. unless they print a branded fusion monster thats materials list fallen of albaz and any monster that mill effect is pretty balanced. Even then the idea of mill 2 isnt even fair to say because it mills a very specific card that does nothing on its own even inside of its own deck and the other card also has to be pretty specific (while the pool is large for the second mill its not the entire card pool of the whole game, not even half so id say thats at least alright)
Branded is a fair deck with a few very unfair cards. And anyone is coping if they think it just loses to a single ash. That ash stops exactly 1 card and they have a ton of other plays they can do not to mention just search the next copy of BF and I can’t search another ash. I lay against the deck constantly and while it’s beatable there’s also lots of times where it’s unbeatable and decks like that do not feel fun I may as well be playing against nurse burn or an exodia deck. It’s like 30% of the time it works every time.
but when I search another BF i can maybe go into another fusipn when i drew cartesi and that‘s it the enemy just needs to otk me next turn or set up another spell negate and they won. Ygo is extremely fast for a loong time searching another bf for follow up when you can‘t set up a board does nothing tbh. But I agree with the rest of ur statement (just ban sancrifire dragon)
As I only really played MD and don’t bother with physical cards I’ll be honest and say that MD hitting BF to 1 was shocking to me and kinda made me hate the deck a bit but then I realized that Branded is one of the few decks that can play 60 cards and still perform fine so the need to even use BF or rely on it so much became an after thought. Sure it’s a great card and MD limiting TGIG to 1 and outright banning Merrli ruined my deck a bit more than usual but the deck can play from the GY just fine and using other cards (Branded Retribution, Branded Sword) and returning cards from the GY to the hand or ED with Tear made me realize that Branded is hella flexible. I didn’t like BF getting limited solely for the ridiculous Kash cards and the fact that shit like Ash/Maxx C is unlimited. Making a card that’s easy to stop only playable at 1 that loses to cards like Ash that are unlimited and are in 96% of decks then there’s the possibility of running into Kash and it’s banished face down so you can’t get it back with cards like Retribution or Kitt. But I’m also hoping one day Dragoon comes off the ban list eventually so don’t mind my opinion I’m just tryna have fun
With the release Ragnaraika, Snake Rain can be searched using Thrust and used to its full potential finally! Serpentine Princess will finally have her time!
If you argue about ligical fallacies on twitter go outside and touch some grass. Literally making a video on a discussion. Thats fine, but when logic hits the discussion they are the idiot. Alright bro, sure
I like Branded it's the most Beginner friendly/entry level competitive deck you can get and for a new player it's simple enough. I do think that the gimmick puppet, scythe, ido etc... is mad corny I'd say you could limit Branded fusion cause the card is mad strong, and the archetype has enough support now to play without BF.
As a branded player, I do wish the deck's power wasnt so center focused on branded fusion and distributed that power across the cards in the deck, as very few branded cards are actually playable. I think cartesia is a good example of a card that has more evenly distributed power
If you hit Branded Fusion they just go back to Fusion Destiny shenanigans I think, even with it at 1 there's so many ways to search it that it wouldn't matter TOO much anyways
Damn they can ban EVERY floodgate monster or...ban sancatfire. Holy shit the issue is solved. And the Verte/halq argument is weak as fuck. Those cards were banned cause they facilitated bigger problems in MANY other decks. Branded fusion is used in TWO decks, branded, and branded chimera. This is mind blowing how this video was just 10 minutes of anecdotal evidence and personal feelings of "I don't like branded waaaah" fucking cry about it. Branded isn't a dominating force otherwise it would be all over the top spot and not kash. Overall this was just a 10 minute bad take.
I like Branded Fusion, though I'm cool with it at 1, just because I can use it in my jank ass fusion pile. 1 Branded Fusion also weakens the grind game since you can only recur Branded Fusion from grave so many times, but I get that decks whose game plan is to resolve Branded Fusion are a bad thing for the game. My ideal situation is ban the floodgate monsters, Branded Fusion to 1, but it's no skin off my back either way, maybe forcing Branded to do something else and work without Branded Fusion would be good for the deck
stevie's hater energy blinding him with that branded to dm comparison, when heroes is right there. there's the fuse from deck spell, the non-targeting removal boss, the mid-tier power level. if anything, branded is less inherently floodgatey than heroes.
I am such a masterduel player that I tend to forget that branded fusion is at 3 in the tcg. In that case, the branded despia engine could be hit so that it is in the same power level as the ocg & masterduel.
@@PyroniumZ I haven't played with any of the new branded tools that are not in masterduel. From what I've read in the comments, banning Albion Sanctifire seems like clear answer to the floodgate lock problem. The Chimera archetype seems pretty neat though unfortunate with it needing branded fusion to foolish burial to get going and is still outshined by Kashtira.
Any fusion archetype that doesn't rely on polymerization is a badly-designed fusion archetype at least in my opinion. And should not exist. They should have never made contact fusion an archetype Pacific fusion cards because they all end up feeling like they play the exact same way.
I started tcg in June, played dlink. People got upset at me for playing dlink, so decided I could play branded cos I got bystials so I dont have to buy too many more cards. Then I find out people hate branded too. I feel like there's no winning. (plan on playing branded synchro so no puppet lock etc but still)
That's why I prefer to play branded as part of the deck like branded zombie, heroes, magicians, shaddolls, etc. Playing branded despia is just not interesting enough on its own.
I never got the whole "the only good thing about branded is the Gimmick Puppet lock." Like yeah, but imo it's just unoptimal to play it without chimera or predaplant engines aside them, in which case, there's a lot more you can do with them. Also Isolde resolving doesn't win you the game.
I mainly play Branded Bystial Thunder Dragon and use BF as a way to send a Dragondark or Dragonroar for Bystial plays and set up a slower recursive resource loop. Not all Branded decks have to play this floodgate bullshit and I'm tired of seeing other people do this shit.
The comparison between Branded Fusion and Snake Rain is weird. Ogdoadic is an awful deck, but if it was a good deck, I would want Snake Rain banned because a Painful Choice for exclusively reptiles sounds insane. Since that isn't the case, Snake Rain is fine, for now.
Ogdoadic can set up degenerate stuff like branded but snake rain isnt searchable and there are like 7 playable reptiles in the entire game, and half of them are bricks. It also cant run as many handtraps as branded can and the deck loses to any handtrap not just ash. As an ogdoadic player the only way i even play through 1 handtrap is my opponent not knowing how my deck works
@PyroniumZ Again, Ogdoadic is an awful deck, even if it could make degenerate boards. The fact that despite that, it can make those boards, and it's still not good, only proves my point.
@@AllThingsEntertaining Im just giving more reasons on why its not as good as branded fusion even tho they both win the game if they resolve. Not disagreeing with anything you have said.
If you REALLY, REALLY, hate an ED card so much, just run Reaper Cherries in your side my dudes. I have for years to hit decks. Tear0 format? Cherries the Kitkalos. Fighting Kash? Cherries the Shang if your are getting locked or the Riseheart away. That one guy at locals doing Bishbaalken FTKs? Cherries the Bish Coder!
Im here late. Ash blossom has literally not stopped branded from popping off for months now. At least in my experience. Ash blossom is just taking out one route. Branded is the most obnoxious cuck deck in the game, next to trash like Floo and Kashtira. Its the player bases fault. Branded players desperately wanted to be able to see that “victory” thing, even if they honestly didn’t need to try or use their brain. Thats wht its Braindead despia :)
6:47 no xd that was never the case, just because people where goofing around in regionals doesnt mean chimera was the best deck in the format, it never was and by a long shot. Just look at ycs vancouver etc
The only check branded needs is Albion fusion banned so puppet locking isn’t possible. It’s just funny that people that want hits to branded never complain about gigantic tutoring out cards degenerate cards.
@@PyroniumZ Yeah and spright has seen: way more competitive success than branded and way more splashability than branded some decks can out iblee. Most have to build their extra deck sub optimal in order to respect iblee. Some can't out iblee. and the "iblee is the main floodgate that's used" arguement is the same issue with albion. Albion is the offender so ban it. Gigantic is the offender so ban it. Simple. Hit prosperity to 0 or 1 and iblee is probably fine until konami makes another way to tutor it out.
if you ban isolde, players will áddapt and play something stupid like scrap wyvern where you can literally add cards, special from deck and send atleast twice. And for isolde you have to play multiple bricks. if you wanna build protection for her you have to go for apo first and then you lose to imperm anyway. If you play with adventure engine you lose to droll. so idk man.
Just ban sanctifire… Mirrorjade isn’t broken enough, neither is chimera, the problem is sanctifire like expulsion was, just ban that and leave the non cancerous version of the deck playable
Branded is definitely low tier 2 in master duel and high tier 2 in TCG and ocg it's actually fun in both playing it and watching unlike the mills, negate and nah no summoning on the field for you board
Bro all top decks have floodgates really well some and not all branded players use floodgates And most other decks are better than it like soulsword The thing i like about it is that you can play branded in really everything to make 1 card or so i don't think they needed to limit bassically some cards when there are other cards that are more Problematic
Branded is a fair deck engine wise, however the yugioh community likes to win by ANY means possible. So the deck just becomes a floodgate turbo deck, and even then the line is just a win more. A full branded board is probably gg anyway ( 3 banishes, 2 pops + draw 1, a negate + bounce and a mercourier with 4/5 in hand ) Branded does not lose to ash, sure its annoying but if you know what you are doing the deck is more than able to win without even resolving fusion.
so i like branded and i would call myself a branded player and i dont get why people hate branded combos (without the dumb lock shit) there is an argument that branded fusion is a bit much but banning it is the right thing to do i would be fine with branded fusion to one that way it looses viability,i`ve actually been playing a list with 1 branded fusion and it works just fine and it becomes a fun branded lore pile deck with synchro plays and cartesia/quem loops. surley no one hates on that playstile
If your deck mains a flood gate it means its not a good deck, brandeds mid at best and has been for a while itll only be good if ash gets hit or if the deck gets an in archtype way to stop ash
Branded is a good deck I love it but it's not a great deck it's tier 1.5 at best and that's why it likely won't get hit And if people are having a conversation about banning droll then we can have a conversation about banning ash
