The Bulls and Zach Lavine Divorce is About to get Real Messy 

He is definitely #notlikeus

What do you mean? Could you explain it a little bit more please

@@mandala-YIN.YANG- Zach got one of the most player friendly contract of his class and is in fact the reason he is so hard to move. If the bulls can send em to the pistons for draft capitol at this point that's fair game because they already set him up for a wealth he honestly wasn't worth

@@viperstrike0thank you, the shooting guard on the grizzlies has the same contract and he hasn't made a all star team, so zachs contract is not that bad considering guys are getting paid 60 million a year. 😮

@@dariuskelleydk it is bad, if you want to move him. Which Zach requested.

That’d be the only place he’d be the #1 guy so why not

I think he was actually hurt hurt. It was a bone issue in his foot

He ain't going nowhere. We stuck with him.

detroit r in a better position than chicago and r projected to contend way earlier tbf . perhaps hes worried pistons r gonnantry to flip him

I assume he thought he’d get sent somewhere desirable. Although I think the writing on the wall was there last year, before the injury. When the team is better without you, $40 million plus per year isn’t a great investment. The fact that he’s still here means he doesn’t have value on his current contract.

Aint that the truth

I’ll admit that but the Fron Office failed Lavine at the same time

Not even remotely true

Partly true, but in reality, he's not a player to build a contender around. The front office made the mistake of signing players like him (scores that require the ball in their hands and didn't play good defense) to complement him. Zack never evolved to becoming a more complete player, either. There's a reason, besides injuries and the big contact, that other teams are hesitant to trade for a 25 ppg player. Contenders didn't want him and he doesn't want to be traded to bad teams. That's makes it tough for both sides.

​@@marcbasillol you don't know nothing about this lol he definitely has

😂Blame the media? Like it has nothing to do with the combination of him always being injured, having a massive overpaid max contract, and him never winning anything in his career.

@@justmyopinion8395 He has been pretty durable playing for us, minus last year. He did do this to himself tho. He has always played like a guy who's main focus was chasing numbers and getting into the all star game. Didnt make guys around him better, just always played selfishly.

To be fair to Zach, he was signed to a max deal but the team was not built around the max player. Zo and Caruso were perfect because they both play defense and Zo is a transitional passer who helped Zach get easy baskets in the open floor. But how can you have 2 players, like Zach and Derozan, who are similar in style, but can't defend. Add a center in Vuc who can't defend. That spells a disaster. If it wasn't for Caruso and Zo, it would have looked even worse. Derozan pretty much stole Zach's role although Zach was given the max. What was the logic in doing that? If you believed in Zach to give him a max, why would you then put him in the background as a #2? It wasn't done when he was putting up 50 to push the Bulls, which is why he got the max. So the team should have been constructed around him. You now have young athletic players. Patrick should have been given a bigger role but because of the structure he too was pushed in the background. I even believe the current team is better for him and Zach. Zach can now be the lead on a team with role players and you have Giddey and Zo as passers. You can never have enough ball movers on a team. If Zo comes back defensively, he can fill Caruso's role and also be the 3 point specialist. But I don't think the Bulls want any success, tanking to keep that Spurs pick is the goal instead of winning. Why tank when you may have the formula? Try it and see. It may surprise you.

@tangiemarie7330 the fans who defend giving max money to lacrosse players are the real prob.

@@jovetheunstoppable Well the Knicks are paying a #4 option Zach's money as Anunoby is a #4. I put Brunson, Mikal Bridges, and Randle in front of him. I would even say Josh Hart may even be their #4. So you think the Knicks should pay a #4 or 5 the same amount as Zach as Anunoby just signed a $215 million over 5 years? Giddey qualifies for a max of $215. Say he has a most improved player and comes close to averaging a triple double on a lottery team. Would you give Giddey the max if the team loses more game than they ever did with Zach but he has great numbers?

LOL

Problem is that nobody on earth wants to go to or live in Detroit. Surprises me that there's an NBA team there yet.

🤣 🤣 🤣 🔥 💀

To be fair to Zach, he was signed to a max deal but the team was not built around the max player. Zo and Caruso were perfect because they both play defense and Zo is a transitional passer who helped Zach get easy baskets in the open floor. But how can you have 2 players, like Zach and Derozan, who are similar in style, but can't defend. Add a center in Vuc who can't defend. That spells a disaster. If it wasn't for Caruso and Zo, it would have looked even worse. Derozan pretty much stole Zach's role although Zach was given the max. What was the logic in doing that? If you believed in Zach to give him a max, why would you then put him in the background as a #2? It wasn't done when he was putting up 50 to push the Bulls, which is why he got the max. So the team should have been constructed around him. You now have young athletic players. Patrick should have been given a bigger role but because of the structure he too was pushed in the background. I even believe the current team is better for him and Zach. Zach can now be the lead on a team with role players and you have Giddey and Zo as passers. You can never have enough ball movers on a team. If Zo comes back defensively, he can fill Caruso's role and also be the 3 point specialist. But I don't think the Bulls want any success, tanking to keep that Spurs pick is the goal instead of winning. Why tank when you may have the formula? Try it and see. It may surprise you.

@BallGuy-pm8pz bro give it up.

It was either that or let him walk for nothing. Hindsight is always 20/20.

@@thehappyhermit01 na we knew that letting him walk for nothing, was better than maxing him. the slow bb ppl didnt know that like CHGO.. we had enough proof that he wasnt a max player at all.. and he was at best a #3 on a good team.. we knew,. I knew,,

@@ragingoracle6239It was the most obvious thing in the world that letting him walk was best case scenario. That “Let player go for nothing” argument has always been tired. You get the freed up cap space and the opportunity to make change. That’s not “nothing” in my eyes.

@@greedygeniuzletting him walk for nothing doesn't mean you get that cap space to sign someone else so it is a big deal

@@Tonyvontony letting him walk means you never use it.. So you can use it elsewhere ,So one that can carry and be a true #1

You can find a team that will take his contract BUT the Bulls will have to take a bad contract in return.😂

@@spaceghost8995people are saying we have to take a bad contract AND give up assets. I’m keeping him before I do that.

You play to WIN the game! Lavine has proven time and time again that he is not a winning player. He just ISN'T.

He has had ONE season with a positive net +/- and it was 0.2. I think on the surface level players like Zach and Trae look impressive but if I'm building a championship team their value is as a 6th man.

We tried that last year and he kinda tanked his stock prior to injury. I wouldn't play him at all. Take the L because we aren't getting anything out of Lavine

Agreed cause it's kinda absurd how the league is valuing Zach. He has a max contract which he earned. Not a supermax contract because he is not that superstar. He is a star getting paid star money. It's a difference between max= star, supermax= superstar. Zach is definitely a max= star player.

@@walker1984 but then when he goes to another team and balls out crazy people finna complain and AK finna be the next John paxson

Playing zach at this point is just foolish, Let's just be terrible and let these kids develop. With this upcoming draft, i dont want lavine out there making us good enough to land another wendell carter. We need a star player, and those will not sign with us. Tanking is the only path to get out of this mediocrity

@@swaymcthunder1219 we wouldn't be able to get a Wendell Carter because our pick would go to the Spurs at that point.

It’s not Bulls fault that they can’t find a team who would take his contract

Which interview? Curious

@ashleypowell1722 Bulls can’t get a good deal for anybody because they failed to make trades when everyone’s value was up. We just lost the Caruso trade and let Drummond walk for free… Derozan and Lavine are up next… Have you been paying attention?!!!

@truffboy1263 “Ruthless Business”

​@@lilbfrom094princeton8Drummond had no trade value.

Wut…?

@@marcbasil im saying hes still a good player esp if hes not injured, and that the only reason why teams are not actively trading for him is simply due to the CBA rules with teams unwilling to trade simply due to that, thats why u see pg and klay walk from their teams, teams dont wna be punished for taking in too much

Thanks my man! Appreciate it!

THANK YOU. It's like the Eric Andre meme where he shoots Hannibal burress and then asks "why would someone do this"

bro. this team has the stink of death and rot on it. Zach realizes its not only a sinking ship. there is also a bomb ticking down on that same ship and a zombie plague............ o and a meteor is heading straight for it.

To be fair to Zach, he was signed to a max deal but the team was not built around the max player. Zo and Caruso were perfect because they both play defense and Zo is a transitional passer who helped Zach get easy baskets in the open floor. But how can you have 2 players, like Zach and Derozan, who are similar in style, but can't defend. Add a center in Vuc who can't defend. That spells a disaster. If it wasn't for Caruso and Zo, it would have looked even worse. Derozan pretty much stole Zach's role although Zach was given the max. What was the logic in doing that? If you believed in Zach to give him a max, why would you then put him in the background as a #2? It wasn't done when he was putting up 50 to push the Bulls, which is why he got the max. So the team should have been constructed around him. You now have young athletic players. Patrick should have been given a bigger role but because of the structure he too was pushed in the background. I even believe the current team is better for him and Zach. Zach can now be the lead on a team with role players and you have Giddey and Zo as passers. You can never have enough ball movers on a team. If Zo comes back defensively, he can fill Caruso's role and also be the 3 point specialist. But I don't think the Bulls want any success, tanking to keep that Spurs pick is the goal instead of winning. Why tank when you may have the formula? Try it and see. It may surprise you.

@@BallGuy-pm8pz Ah. Someone else who actually watches the games. Well played. Good Assessment. Zach was never the problem, and if you are going to bench him in favor of DeMar, and Zo is out, he may have looked at the season as a loss and took the surgery to get it over with in time for summer camp. And here people are hating. I never hated on DeMar like that. Even though I see the Obvious.

Ben Simmons' contract expires after this reason, Zach has two year left AFTER this season in the age of the second apron. Zach has more value as a player, but he's not the best player on a top 5 seed team. Ben's contract has more value in getting under the aprons.

The money on his contract has to match what we get in return

@@franknitty there has to be a player that has too much money getting paid that we can get for him. I’ll take a Jordan Poole at this point

@@OP_-pk9hm bro I feel you! Shits a mess and we only got 1 roster spot available so like rich Paul said bulls got work to do

@@OP_-pk9hmDamn Jordan Poole? I hope there are some baddies in Chicago.

For who?

I've always said that was their biggest mistake, building around Zach and pushing for all in moves to keep him happy

The first and ONLY time that they did… We were FIRST in the East.

Except I made it a video

Probably, I could see that being the case

@@BullsCentral that's exactly what they doing.

@@BullsCentralHe is signed to a huge unfavorable multi-year contract. Clutch has very little leverage to dictate where he goes in this scenario.

I wouldn't play him at all. Playing him does nothing. Tell Silver that you are respecting Lavine's wishes and trying to deal him. Maybe Adam will buy that we don't want any disgruntled player shenanigans

@@walker1984 Bruh wtf are you saying regarding Adam Silver?!?

Priority is getting Lavine off the team

Yeah but not for nothing... Anit no way I'm releasing them and then deal with all the fake Bulls fans if we get nothing in return

No MATTER WHAT THEY MUST GO

DeRozan is off the team. Nothing Demar does really has to do with the Bulls unless the Bulls do a sign and trade.

​@riveysworld2442 at this point I would be ok with Lavine for nothing. I don't give a damn what fake Bulls fans say because they are not the ones filling the United Center. Casual fans who can't name one player are who's going rn. All in the name of being where Jordan once played. Smh

No the Lakers would be giving up the pick😂

Yup, just like when the Wizards gave Bradley Beal a supermax contract with a no trade clause. It had negative value before the ink dried.

He doesn't really care about doing that. Plus Lebron is his #1. Of course he's going to take care of his #1's son

I thought the same thing. Just blows my mind.

You must not remember that game

Er…..wat..?