@Tongue.Tornado Well, it's also the Ryu vs Sagat part, since Ryu canonically defeated Sagat (though it was due to the Satsui no Hado, and that's how Sagat got his chest scar)
@@ilikestamps2978 yeah esp at lower ranks they just throw it out randomly so if youre crouch blocking or just out of range its super easy to whiff punish
@@ilikestamps2978its +3 on block in sf6 which is a huge buff and I think its extremely good. Its not anywhere near as broken as vanilla sf4 obviously but the fact that its duckable is somsthing that conditions your opponent into crouching at st.HK range which really lets you take space and apply pressure since st.HK is such a gigantic normal. Its the definition of high risk, high reward but the implications of the move make it a scary tool.
The button so rich in history. Starting off as a focus attack breaker in SFIV. It got it's own fancy name in SFV and new function as a command normal. Then got relegate back to being an unnamed normal again in SF6.
Vanilla Akuma was something I didn't learn existed till ultra, so its always funny hearing people talk about him like he was this core part of the meta (which I'm sure he was in areas that had him unlocked but no cabinet I ever went to had him and I drove many hours back in the day to get to the handful of remaining arcades to play vanilla SF4 when it first came out. Like akuma was in the console version of SF4, for sure, but like all the console exclusives, it seemed like no one in tournaments used them because tournaments were on arcade cabinets. I still haven't been able to find out how akuma was even unlocked in arcades, the impression I've gotten is that it was some sort of time unlock thing, but perhaps if units got unpowered the timer started over again, thus why the cabinets I found didn't have him? Regardless, all I remember from the vanilla days is Sagat and Daigo's Ryu at top levels for most tournaments. Sagats as far as the eye could see, and Daigo who was using Ryu for some reason even though it seemed to put him at a disadvantage. Years later I'd hear that Seth and Akuma were probably actually the best in that game, not Sagat, but because they were unlocked in arcades so late, they didn't really get figured out until just before SSF4 came out and changed everything. Long story short, its fun to see a video talk about why akuma could have been a dominating force if he hadn't been time locked or whatever was going on with him, in the same way its fun seeing a video on second impact sean, another character who was supposedly great but only figured out right before a new version of the game came out that nerfed him.
*Laughs in Adon* Adon could focus absorb the first hit of Akumas stand Heavy Kick and then forward dash. Because of Adons low profile during his dash, the second hit of Akumas would wiff and Adon would get a free punish.
I think this is the first time I've heard someone say FADC with the same points of emphasis I'd use when saying AC/DC (Not hating, just vocalising something I noticed). Great video by the way!
Also noteworthy about the SF6 version, it has really high scaling if it's used mid-combo, so it's good for starting combos but worse for extending them
it's also SUUUUPER risky in SF6.... as the second hit doesn't hit crouching opponents, if they block low your first hit, they'll be +12 in your face....
Awesome video. Could theory fighter or anyone else give me some advice. I've grown up playing fighting games (I turn 40 tomorrow actually haha) but I've hit what I can only call a skill ceiling. I'm too good to beat casuals but I panic when combos get long and drop them. I can do simple combos very easily but throwing in drive rush in 6 or FADC's in 4, the execution barrier for these god like moves is something I could never get to grips with. You guys understand the game on another level, any advice or tips on getting better with execution (input buffering and such is beyond me)
I also struggle with certain complex inputs, but I generally just try not to play characters whose gameplay require them. For long combos, ya just gotta practice the shit out of them in training mode til they're 2nd nature, so in a match, you don't even think about it anymore. Same goes for complex inputs, I guess. You just do it over and over in training mode until it's a reflex. Sometimes experimenting with remapping buttons can help too.
Timings are very tight if you're someone who is not used to grind combos. I've tried doing the basic combos on the trials of SF6 (I'm new to the whole genre) and had a hard time trying to pull them off, 'cause timings on when to input moves and how long you have to input them varies drastically. You can only keep hitting the lab and practice them, SF6 an Tekken have both good combo example showing you how fast and when to input moves
Even back in the days, I was baffled the idea of keeping it good on block but making the second hit whiff on crouchers wasn't their choice. It was so obviously the play.
I’m not sure if it was like this in SFxT, but in SF6, the first hit of stand HK also jails on block, meaning if you’re stand blocking the first hit, you can’t duck the second hit. Which is really nice
Nestled in this is the short history of my favorite Akuma button, 5MK. That little knee I first discovered in SF5 is just so wonderful to me and personally defines his gamefeel as more fluid than the other shotos.
I loved using it in Street Fighter 4 & still do in Street Fighter 6. It's a good combo starter. Standing HK, crouching LP, Overdrive Tatsumaki, Overdrive Goshoryuken.
Some characters could crouch it in AE, like C.Viper I believe. I remember very well because among all of the other things it does, it cancels into ultra Demon, so I would get cheeky sometimes and demon a crouching opponent in between the two kicks because I knew they were going to punish.
It may seem that way, but Jago had his double roundhouse in Killer Instinct 2, a game that came out 12 years before Street Fighter 4. He may have even had it in 1 as well, but I don't know enough about 1. Tons of characters in Killer Instinct (Xbox) also had two hit, forward moving, heavy attacks that would make Akuma's double roundhouse seem weak. This was because they were balanced by the shadow system mechanics, specifically Shadow Counter. As I'm sure you've experienced, that double roundhouse was essentially a free Shadow Counter for any responsive opponent with meter. KI had a lot of specials, normals, and command normals that by themselves would dominate an entire other game's neutral if they were given to a character in them, but were balanced by combo breakers and shadow counters in KI. I'd always tell people around that time, "Tatsu in this game is fullscreen, fast, safe on block, crushes lows, can be made projectile invulnerable with meter, is a combo starter, a combo extender, a combo ender, and it's still fair. Have fun."
As a certified Akuma fanboy, it is my duty to inform you that this button actually has an official name as of SF4 Omega and V, *"Kikokurenzan"* Now whether or not that translates to "Party Starter" you'll have to ask Capcom.
His RH button was busted, but his mediums were the worst of the shotos. Seems like they made his medium buttons worse but his heavies better. Also Ryu doesn't beat Akuma in Vanilla. Once the vortex was perfected Akuma had advantage over Ryu as well.
getting vortexed was the least fun i had in that game . . . well, i kinda checked out after ULTRA , but EARLY sf4, akuma was not fun to watch, or play against e.g. infiltration vs tokido evo 2013
Akuma ultra sf4 standing high kick whiffs on most crouchers, so it isnt that godlike in every matchup but sure u can spam on fatter characters And u made it sound like ultra 2 got buffed cus it is now cancellable from far standing fierce, but technically they didnt make changes to this ultra. it is that far standing fierce got buffed because the update made it cancellable into specials
@@Kannon_Shotsyou completely missed the plot on this comment >.> I said we have to talk about the data in sf4 because the frame data in sf5-6 (although 6 is still an objectively better game than 5) is boring as shit.
@@Reshi99841 frame links in delay netcode, and invincible 3-frame reversals with an enormous buffer window! Playing SFIV online was bad for the blood pressure.
Imagine being so much of a literal child you call a 2009 game, which is often considered the first MODERN fighting game because it created the modern, online focused competitive scene, a boomer game. I too love retro consoles like PS3 and PS4.
