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The C2 Corvette Was Made By Real Car Guys And Performs As Good As It Looks - But There Is A Scandal 

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First time I did a video on this car:
• The Mid-Year C2 Corvet...
This was the first Corvette designed and built (almost) from the ground up by genuine car guys and racers. Guys like Bill Mitchell, Larry Shinoda, and of course, Zora Arkus-Duntov, who’s known as the "father of the corvette."
That’s "father," because Harley Earl, probably the most famous and extravagant designer in car history, created it after driving and falling in love with a Jaguar XK120. GM had also decided they needed a sports car, and as chief of design, Earl made it happen.
He assembled a team, and quickly cobbled a show car together for the 1953 New York Motorama, an addendum show to the NY International Auto Show put on by GM. It was a stylish and lavish event, and Project Opel - the Corvette - was a focus of it. It had a sleek design, 2 seats, and the use of a new and exotic material, fiberglass. It drew a crowd, and even inspired a production run of 300 cars in 1953 - all of them Polo White with red interior, and many were given to celebrities to promote the brand.
One guy who came to see it would have his life changed by it. Zora Arkus-Duntov fell in love with the lines, but was horrified to find the mechanicals of an ox cart underneath. Solid rear axle, anemic 6-cylinder, automatic tranny, piss poor brakes, and antiquated steering.
Arkus-Duntov was a very interesting guy - born in Belgium to Russian Parents, son of a mining engineer, and of a woman who got tired of the first mining engineer, so she married another - and they all lived together in what would certainly appear to be an awkward arrangement. Arkus-Duntov ultimately liked them both, so he took both last names and hyphenated them. He rode motorcycles, and then bought a race car, and then went to Berlin Polytechnic, and then got a job in France, where he married an exotic dancer named Elfi, and then smuggled gold in a hollowed out Mercedes. Later he escaped to the US just before the Nazis arrived, hiding out for a few days in a bordello. (cough)
He came to the us, and made some money in war munitions, and then he and his brother started a company making better cylinder heads for the flathead Ford V8. In fact, he would later argue to GM that hot rodding support would spawn interest in GM products, which led to the GM performance division that still exists today.
After seeing the corvette at the Motorama, he fired off a letter to GM saying they should hire him, and they did.
He helped get a V8 in the corvette, and a manual gearbox, and improved front suspension with somewhat better brakes, but he was encumbered by the poor underpinnings of the C1 chassis.
He wound up chest deep in the design and development of the C2, especially when Bill Mitchell bought a one-off race car used by Duntov at Sebring in the late 50s to become the basis for the next Corvette.
It would have vast mechanical improvements over the C1, most notably an independent rear suspension, a quick ratio recirculating ball steering rack, and eventually disc brakes. It was also set up for racing, with anti roll bars and stiff springs. A regular production order package (RPO) was made called the Z06, which added full on race bits for corvettes that would be used in competition.
As to the design of the car, this is where the 1938 Adler Trumpf Rennlimousine comes in. To see that part - and the scandal, you'll have to watch the video.

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@philiplee7604
@philiplee7604 3 года назад
“ We have come so far, but lost so much “… the brutal truth Bill !!
@paulparoma
@paulparoma 3 года назад
"Everything gets harder when you are older." Hm...Not everything.
@bh1015
@bh1015 3 года назад
LOL
@junuc10
@junuc10 3 года назад
blue pill or red
@Springbok314
@Springbok314 2 года назад
Vitamin V.
@paulparoma
@paulparoma 2 года назад
@@Springbok314 You need a prescription for that.
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 Год назад
BAHAHAHA It still works….hope that continues.
@JimmyFoxhound
@JimmyFoxhound 3 года назад
Man this is one of the few cars that are just bite the back of your hand GORGEOUS! Every angle, just beautiful.
@charger19691
@charger19691 3 года назад
If I owned this car, i would become obsessed with it. It’s just stunning. Beautiful from every angle.
@landyachtfan79
@landyachtfan79 3 года назад
One of the mont beautiful cars ever built, domestic OR foreign!!!!!
@youngwerty
@youngwerty 3 года назад
I love this man's passion for cars.
@adamlee011
@adamlee011 3 года назад
And yes, yes it's gorgeous. That color really is attractive.
@nekite1
@nekite1 3 года назад
That is a seriously gorgeous car. Love the history of how it came about - thank you for sharing your knowledge with us mere mortals!
@shedjammer87
@shedjammer87 2 года назад
I wasn't falling asleep. Great story and so cool that Bill can remember all that without having notes and not skipping a beat... Bill, if you're reading this, you do a great presentation and I love your sense of humor!!
@paulie-Gualtieri.
@paulie-Gualtieri. 3 года назад
Great timing Bill I'm going crazy in this hospital bed after gallbladder removal.
@michaelwhite2823
@michaelwhite2823 3 года назад
Swift recovery!
@paulie-Gualtieri.
@paulie-Gualtieri. 3 года назад
@@michaelwhite2823 Thanks Michael 👍
@curiouscars9282
@curiouscars9282 3 года назад
Damn, Paulie - hope you get well soon.
@cashkenterprises5584
@cashkenterprises5584 3 года назад
@@paulie-Gualtieri. I’m seeing the surgeon next Wednesday to set up my surgery too. Wish you the best
@paulie-Gualtieri.
@paulie-Gualtieri. 3 года назад
@@curiouscars9282 Thanks Bill it's long over due it was like a rotten hard grape so the surgeon said, Glad to be rid of it.
@compaqdeskpro5770
@compaqdeskpro5770 3 года назад
The more I hear about the back of Peter's house the more I want footage. I would love to see the creepy fish.
@manofthehour6856
@manofthehour6856 3 года назад
That's right! I want to HEAR the complaints of the weather and the beasts! Love it! And the car is fantastic! Larry Shinoda and Zora Duntov, real car enthusiasts!!!!
@MuzixMaker
@MuzixMaker 3 года назад
Car reports everywhere. Only here can you also get the weather.
@MostlyBuicks
@MostlyBuicks 3 года назад
The 1961-63 Pontiac Tempest/LeMans also had a transaxle.
@michaelwhite2823
@michaelwhite2823 3 года назад
Now it seems half the population is.
@jjefferyworboys8138
@jjefferyworboys8138 3 года назад
No one reviews cars like Bill, keep them coming. Stunning car and the colour suits it so well.
@discerningmind
@discerningmind 3 года назад
Bill, you don't have to apologize for anything. You're reviews are the best. You're the only auto reviewer I know of who does historic homework and brings that into the review. I love the way you 'round-out the videos by going on with how annoyed you are by things. And I especially love when your totally jaded demeanor comes out to play!!! Thank you for all of it!
@MM-fq3ys
@MM-fq3ys 3 года назад
Code 932 Saddle tan, on Saddle leather interior were the official color names. Just FYI.
@OutontheRanchwithDrLee-xb4lo
@OutontheRanchwithDrLee-xb4lo 2 года назад
"Saddle" Tan paint with "Saddle" interior.... I have one just like it! Nice video!
@TruthPoliceLegend
@TruthPoliceLegend 2 года назад
me too lol
@stephendibari5010
@stephendibari5010 3 года назад
Bill this is one of your best reviews ever! Corvette encyclopedia for sure. What a beautiful Vette !! One thing they were many that caught my eye were the stout door hinges. Definitely looks over designed for the time period. Amazing & stunning piece of machinery. This model year was also the year I was born too !! Thanks for sharing your wealth of Corvette history!!
@youngwerty
@youngwerty 3 года назад
50s and 60s American cars we're so beautiful.
@reginaldgarcia6699
@reginaldgarcia6699 3 года назад
You crack me up. I get a laugh watching your videos
@bobriley000444
@bobriley000444 Год назад
43 minutes just flys by like nothing it's amazing the knowledge you have on these classic cars
@michaelwhite2823
@michaelwhite2823 3 года назад
Oh my god. Is this the one I saw you profile earlier with power windows, air and auto? Better than CORDOBA! I win lotto I'm buying this and moving to Switzerland. I'm glad you redid the video. Your style has evolved nicely. One of the most beautiful designs ever.
@curiouscars9282
@curiouscars9282 3 года назад
Thanks, Michael - yes, this is the car. It really is a beauty.
@junuc10
@junuc10 3 года назад
Grew up lusting for this car.....It screams class and style along with performance.
@riwoof
@riwoof 3 года назад
I used to be partial to "Nassau Blue" until I saw this color combination. I actually think I like this better. Kind of reminds me of a color GM had years ago called Champagne Mist ( or something like that). And as always, the history lesson as only Bill can give for those people that thought they knew it all, until they heard Bill speak. Thanks Bill !!
@choosetobefree
@choosetobefree 3 года назад
who needs Barett Jackson.. we've got Bill with the real commentary and the cars! just nice = )
@discerningmind
@discerningmind 3 года назад
I agree!!!
@cardo1111
@cardo1111 3 года назад
Duntov famously called the early Corvette a sheep in wolf's clothing.
@randallringwald5059
@randallringwald5059 3 года назад
Loved the presentation/history of the car and Corvette! My high school research paper back in the day was on Corvettes. I'm sure my English Literature teacher's eyes glazed over!😂
@robertvance1873
@robertvance1873 3 года назад
I doubt anyone fell asleep 😅 thank you Bill for another great video.
@jojoglemond
@jojoglemond 3 года назад
Bill, don’t forget about the 1961-1963 Pontiac Tempest. It was also a transaxle.
@fb3824
@fb3824 3 года назад
Was going to say "what a beautiful car!" but, hey, other commentators already have that damn well covered!!!
@e.f.clarke2041
@e.f.clarke2041 3 года назад
This is a pleasant end to a hard days work. Thank you so very much, Bill.
@belindakt
@belindakt 3 года назад
Once again thank you Bill, for a trip back to a better time in the automotive world!
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 Год назад
That’s for sure, and not even just the automotive world….
@billiebobbienorton2556
@billiebobbienorton2556 3 года назад
The pinnacle of GM's styling.....This one is a true "cruise all day long, look at me" beauty!!!! And with a long legged blond in a short tight black dress at your side , O M G ! ! !
@guitarobot
@guitarobot 3 года назад
Love your videos. Also love your rambling reviews. I fully understand your gripes with the weather and killer birds. Florida native here.
@akishot6735
@akishot6735 3 года назад
My grandpa is the first and only owner of his 327 4 speed 66’ Stingray. Grown up lusting for that car quite a bit!
@buqwik525
@buqwik525 2 года назад
In 1963 I was a junior in high school working after school in a library. My boss was a "spinster" in her late 40's maybe early 50's . She looked the part of a typical librarian Frumpy clothes, Ortho shoes, no make up lived alone with her cat. We had a chat about car. She told me her car doesn't rust. It was a brand new 1963 Corvette convertible!! It was the entry level Corvette, 327, 2bbl, 3-speed stick and radio delete. But still a Corvette!!
@slicksnewonenow
@slicksnewonenow 3 года назад
One of my FAVORITE color combinations for a C2! Beautiful.
@Frontsit
@Frontsit 3 года назад
Thank you. We need more guys like you. I think I got my dream car poster. It was a while a felt anything like today watching this Corvette.
@saadgt2009
@saadgt2009 3 года назад
Such a beautiful car! And, as usual, a reassuring curmudgeonly Bill introduction. Never doubt your instinct for good content. I watched the original video and this one, back to back. A masterful delivery each time; the car may be the same, but you and we are different. That's one of the pleasures of re-reading old car magazines, at least for me. So, this was as enjoyable as your original effort and then some 👍! Besides, where would we be without rabid goats and covid Whiskey? Be well 🖖🙏🇨🇦
@200hit
@200hit 3 года назад
Love it! Proud to be a Vette owner
@stoneylonesome4062
@stoneylonesome4062 Год назад
Freemasonic = Communist & Satanist
@billace90
@billace90 3 года назад
Back in 68, our C.O. in Bragg had one exactly like that. I’ll never forget that engine sound early in the morning.
@discerningmind
@discerningmind 3 года назад
So nice on a drive to work.
@BEGGARWOOD1
@BEGGARWOOD1 3 года назад
Watched for years . Love all of Bills films
@ffffrajo
@ffffrajo 3 года назад
Hi Bill! Never I fall asleep during your videos. Love all the information you're giving, even the weather conditions.
@Mr2pint
@Mr2pint 3 года назад
I can just sit in this car and look at the instrument panel all day 👌
@richardmorris7063
@richardmorris7063 3 года назад
Car is epoch,love the color the wheels ,stance.masterpiece!
@peterceccarelli5846
@peterceccarelli5846 3 года назад
“GOOD MORNING LOL” 💙ur video’s’ ‘& appreciate u getting into the weeds.
@Rixdog01
@Rixdog01 3 года назад
Mid year refers to the years this body style ran: 1963 to 1967. The middle of the 60s.
@robertlawrence5719
@robertlawrence5719 3 года назад
Thanks Bill, I appreciate your informative videos. They relieve the boring stint I spend on the treadmill several times a week! Some people are suggesting changes you should make to your methodology. I wouldn't change a thing! Keep on keeping on and many thanks again!
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 Год назад
Damn, I hope he doesn’t change a thing!
@jked7463
@jked7463 3 года назад
It may have been tested in a wind tunnel, but it was not as aerodynamic as it could have been. Pete Brock has a great story about that. FYI we are not asleep. Great video. Thx.
@Toguro-oy3ld
@Toguro-oy3ld 3 года назад
That car is so beautiful it makes me cry.
@friguy4444
@friguy4444 2 года назад
I'm convinced that our beloved narrator take his breaks and goes to the breakfast nook for a two finger aged 12 years Sandwich. LOL. I love him! I also doubt he uses any notes as he has a perfect memory. Great stuff and killer cars every time all the time!
@kirkhathaway4974
@kirkhathaway4974 3 года назад
always enjoy your posts!!!!! Keep them coming!!!!! Thanks!!!!!!
@Ryantravisaol
@Ryantravisaol 3 года назад
Yes, it’s a lot of information, but I stuck with you the whole time because it’s a fascinating history lesson, and I respect you for your knowledge base and research skills. I just watched while eating dinner 😂 Great video!
@omar_padilla
@omar_padilla 3 года назад
It's absolutely crazy what i learn from your videos sir!!. Everyone else talks about the same ol thing over and over but with you I'm always learning and discovering cars that i would of never taken a second look to do thank you for taking the time to make these videos i greatly appreciate it!!!. And not all snow flakes are helpless hipsters lol but most are lol.
@MikeBMW
@MikeBMW 3 года назад
Well done, Bill! I had a '65 Vette back in the early 80s nearly identically equipped. I loved that car until it go totaled in an accident. Even so, it was awesome while I had it!
@discerningmind
@discerningmind 3 года назад
How was the A/C in your '65? I was surprised that the former owner of the reviewed car here had upgraded the A/C because A/C back then was powerful as far as I've known.
@MikeBMW
@MikeBMW 3 года назад
@@discerningmind Unfortunately, my '65 didn't have AC. I lived in the northern US at the time so it was rarely an issue.. Mine wasn't specced out a lot but I did have the power windows, but just a 2 speed Powerglide transmission, which I've read is quite rare these days. I did have the 327 carbureted motor which was quite impressive.
@discerningmind
@discerningmind 3 года назад
@@MikeBMW Thanks!
@Backin48
@Backin48 3 года назад
I love C2 Vettes, but 65-67 are my favorite due to the 4 wheel disc brakes and 4 wheel independent suspension. But I never liked the white walls , they dont do the car justice. IMO
@chadriddle3517
@chadriddle3517 3 года назад
Hell yea bill ! What damn good pick for a review! Your descriptions are hilarious
@gsten2116
@gsten2116 3 года назад
I love your history lessons Bill. These are always my favorite episodes. Nicely done.
@chrisexperience7
@chrisexperience7 3 года назад
I woke up right at 13:12. Crazy timing.
@asmith515151
@asmith515151 2 года назад
I still remember as a kid sitting cross-legged in that rear space of my brother’s ‘63 split window as he took our old man for a ride. When we hit a bump, my head whacked that piece running down the middle, but I didn’t care because I knew I was in a very special car.
@jiffylube9476
@jiffylube9476 3 года назад
Bill would love to see you do a review on the 1995 Nissan Maxima. Please.
@KTR2020_1
@KTR2020_1 3 года назад
Always learn something about automotive history from your videos Bill. Very entertaining stuff for sure. That's a beautiful car!! Cheers Kevin
@TheJrj430
@TheJrj430 3 года назад
Nice. Love it! Well done
@curiouscars9282
@curiouscars9282 3 года назад
Thanks. This is a fun car.
@seven4185
@seven4185 3 года назад
It’s a travesty that you don’t have more subs. You provide the best history and hilarious content and I have shared you with every car guy I know. Thanks so much
@Aegean2012
@Aegean2012 3 года назад
I hope you do these videos forever. You are awesome !
@johanbrand8601
@johanbrand8601 3 года назад
When I see another video upload of Bill from Curious Cars on a muggy and crappy Tuesday morning then I know it'll be another masterpiece of a video.
@MrRhino10
@MrRhino10 3 года назад
Liked before it started. Love it when Bill uploads
@aldoambrogio
@aldoambrogio 3 года назад
Great video and awesome history lesson. Definitely on my list of cars to buy. Thanks
@GTSCarLife
@GTSCarLife 2 года назад
Can't get enough Bill! Nice car, always loved the C2 ever since my high school architecture teacher had one.
@Rfk1966
@Rfk1966 3 года назад
I’m older than the car seen here. Never had a proper appreciation for these until this video and the background
@hiitsstillme
@hiitsstillme 3 года назад
A stunningly beautiful car... somewhat understated earth-tone colors inside and out, but when you really start looking at it... Wow! We wouldn't change a thing. We love your history lessons... and your rant. Keep up the good work!
@MM-gf5zk
@MM-gf5zk 3 года назад
Good one Bill ! The bird report with the beat in stereo ! Nice old vette , better rear set up than I realised , the history was a revalation .
@discerningmind
@discerningmind 3 года назад
I was impressed with the rear set up. I'm always expecting them to look like when I pull the back rest forward in my El Camino.
@paulm6481
@paulm6481 3 года назад
I actually love the history. Keep doing it. Some I heard before but never hurts to hear again.
@mikejohnson7206
@mikejohnson7206 Год назад
This car doesn't have a bad angle. Just gorgeous.
@MedWKJM
@MedWKJM 3 года назад
The angry bird report to start every vid is hilarious!!
@curiouscars9282
@curiouscars9282 3 года назад
It's all fun until they swarm and attack.
@bokkenrijder172
@bokkenrijder172 3 года назад
The color perfectly suits the era, and that sound…wow! 😍
@rpsmith2990
@rpsmith2990 3 года назад
This has been the best thing about this Sunday morning! My own thought on the automatic vs. manual thing is this: Dealers didn't stock them. And even if they did stock cars with manual transmissions, they were poverty spec cars, largely to have something in stock for the purposes of a newspaper or TV ad. I'm not necessarily talking about Corvettes, but in general. As an example, at one point the standard powertrain on a GM-10 Cutlass Supreme was a H.O. Quad 4 with a five speed manual. Motor Trend tested one, and while it wasn't spectacular, it was at least a change of pace. But even for the advertisements, you'd never see this in an Oldsmobile showroom. In short, one reason the C8 doesn't have a manual available may have its roots in the average American car dealer being unable to move from thinking manual transmission = cheapskate to manual transmission = enthusiast.
@billgorman481
@billgorman481 3 года назад
327 sounds great!
@turnsout5061
@turnsout5061 10 месяцев назад
Those tach and speedo faceplates are works of art. So cool. That car just oozes style out of every square inch.
@bobwallace7487
@bobwallace7487 25 дней назад
What a fun video! Some history, and humour! Glad i found you!
@davidbroughall3782
@davidbroughall3782 3 года назад
Thanks, I found all that history fascinating. It makes me love this car even more.
@stratcat4450
@stratcat4450 3 года назад
If you really want to deep dive into corvette history look up tvr stories on RU-vid. They have a 3 part extensive history from the c1 to the c8.
@pdennis93
@pdennis93 3 года назад
I always thought they were called mid year because they were basically only in the mid 60s since it was 63-67.
@BeLoose1
@BeLoose1 3 года назад
Excellent video. Informative and entertaining. Great job!
@toefield251
@toefield251 3 года назад
The first car with the pop up headlights....ahh yes pop up headlights, man I love those things! To see them out front popped up, they're almost like a hood scoop in a way.
@Tatortot318
@Tatortot318 3 года назад
The color is gorgeous!!! and those wheels.
@Resq28
@Resq28 3 года назад
Amazing history Bill, love it!! 👏👏
@chasstone5048
@chasstone5048 3 года назад
Awesome info. Need more drive time sound n swag. This car was awesome. Great stuff..
@LoveBandit1000
@LoveBandit1000 2 года назад
"We've come so far and we've lost so much". Brilliantly put, sir...
@sponk2112
@sponk2112 13 дней назад
That interior is just amazing. Wasn't expecting that, ngl. Obviously its exterior is gorgeous too, but that's a given.
@MuzixMaker
@MuzixMaker 3 года назад
Bill posts, instant “like”.
@danielgriffin1927
@danielgriffin1927 3 года назад
I laugh so much at these reviews. So pakced with great information too. Keep these coming. The history is super interesting.
@matijamotogppavicic7509
@matijamotogppavicic7509 3 года назад
The best youtube reviewer ever
@lotharfunke8749
@lotharfunke8749 3 года назад
Just found your channel, love it you are a pisser to listen to love your humor. Sold my 66 roadster a couple of years ago to a guy in St Augustine miss that car every day.
@scottdiamond7133
@scottdiamond7133 3 года назад
I've read a lot of Corvette material and I did not know how that story! Well done
@markstott8864
@markstott8864 6 месяцев назад
Great review Bill. Facts and figures in abundance and we love it. Beautiful car. Wish we had them here in Australia. Too expensive now. Catch you on the next one. Take care.
@jimtrucksis1505
@jimtrucksis1505 3 года назад
Great narration! I really enjoyed it
@markweyant6104
@markweyant6104 3 года назад
Absolutely beautiful! I can never decide the most beautiful car made between the mid year vettes or the Jaguar XKE. May be faster cars but just gorgeous 🙂
@discerningmind
@discerningmind 3 года назад
That is a difficult thing to decide upon. Another contender of mine is the beautifully penned '65 Impala coupe.
@klaus4441
@klaus4441 3 года назад
btw , we called this sort of wipers , Butterfly wiper in Germany , the same old Mercedes had
@discerningmind
@discerningmind 3 года назад
I've never heard of these called "suicide wipers" before Bill said it.
@ColinBarrett001
@ColinBarrett001 3 года назад
Love your videos Bill. Brilliantly informative and entertaining. I live in England and from one old guy to another I envy you the heat and humidity of Florida - compared to our miserable English cold and rain. I love your paranoia about 'the birds'. It always reminds me of the Hitchcock movie. You need a young Tippy Hedren as your co-host. :)
@hendo337
@hendo337 3 года назад
The '61-'63 Pontiac Tempest and LeMans had a transaxle like the Corvair. My dream is to put one on a C5 or C6 Corvette chassis that has the front axle stretched forward 10" to match the wheelbase and allows the retention of the stock torque tube. Will I ever get to do it...probably not, which is sad because I am too young, thin and hairy to be seen in a C5 or C6.
@martinda7446
@martinda7446 Год назад
I had a Hot Wheels toy of this when I was a kid, around 1970? I couldn't believe it was a real car, it was too beautiful for that. What with the Ford Anglias, Morris Minors and Hillman Minxes that were in regular view, this amazing shape, I was convinced was just in the mind of some artistic dreamer.
@bws1971
@bws1971 3 года назад
Bill, this is an excellent, incredibly informative video. Thank you
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