David - you can't please everyone - that is impossible. So make sure YOU are pleased with your videos - and ignore the kids and the haters :) Thanks for always putting out amazing content. I am gonna wait for the next version of the C64 - that sounds really interesting. Thanks from a 45 year old youtuber, with a background in C64 gaming, demomaking and programming. :)
Blind fanboy alert! That wasn't hatred, that was criticism. David made himself a hypocrite throughout the review and people called him out on it. You won't listen though. Just keep paying his paycheck for the month. ;)
Older HDTV models do have a tendency to have an inherent delay, regardless of input. Would be worth using a single display for testing delay on both devices
HDMI has inherent delay. LCD has inherent delay. You can't just wish those away. New models are driving the delay lower, but it's still there. Old CRTs had no delay because the TV didn't "process" the signal. The signal was used to drive the circuitry while the TV displayed the image.
@@misterhat5823, even an CRT will have delay if you fit an video possessor in the middle. to many modern TV's just got to much stuff making the picture more "fancy" and usually a to weak CPU to do it.
I saw C64s of both colors. Our original one was the darker, browner color, but when it died and we picked up a used replacement, it was the lighter, grayer color. I believe they had different colored F-keys as well, one having brown and the other having very dark brown, nearly black F- keys. This was in the US in the 80s.
The D64 issue with multi disks was mentioned by me when the Mini came out in the UK, I already mentioned to people to use a programme called DirMaster to create D71 or D81 disk images, DirMaster is a PC tool. I been doing this for years, and mentioned it time and time again and no one takes the info onboard.. It is so easy to do to create a D81 from D64 or PRG file, even T64 files are easy to convert to D64, D71 and D81.. I do this on my original C64
Who would send _you_ hate mail? Criticisms, maybe, but are people that unnecessarily harsh? You're providing only your observations, and if an assumption is wrong, it can be acknowledged and everybody wins. But with hate mail, nobody wins.
@@jdbarker32 Given what I know about internet discourse, he probably left out the death threats and insults to his mother that were probably mixed in liberally with their pedantic criticisms.
I'm almost tempted to buy a C64 mini, but I've still got an A1200 and recently fired up Hired Guns and Shadow of the Beast on it. To say I was disappointed would be an understatement.
Buy a Nintendo DS or 2/3DS, there are two Boulder Dash. The two games include Boulder Dash I. For modern version in this games, DS is better because it respects the gameplays. The new possibilities of the character in the 3DS game can't be removed or choiced, and those new things make the game easy.
In the UK, Jeff Minter llamasoft games were considered absolutely essential in the early days of the C64. ♥️ Revenge of the Mutant Camels ♥️ Nice video as always though.
I recognize 45 of the games on that list, albeit some from other platforms. I'm in the UK so maybe some of these games were less popular in the USA, but there are some very good games in that list: Zynaps and Uridium, both were highly praised shooters. Robin of the Wood - I never figured out how to play that game but some people raved about it. Skool Daze - very interesting adventure game; there's a remade version for PC. And Speedball.. surely you heard of Speedball I and II on the Amiga or Atari ST? I played that game until my fingers hurt. These may not be titles that everyone knows, but I'd give that selection an enthusiastic thumbs-up. I prefer 16 bit though..
I think the difference in speed is not the new firmware, but because it runs in NTSC mode. Compare the pitch of the note, it's higher on the NTSC version. So the lag is computer wise actually the same, but sped up. (compare for example the speed of Sonic The Hedgehog in PAL and NTSC on a Sega Megadrive/Genesis)
Hi David, It really bothers me that this doesn't have a working keyboard. Also, I'm really surprise you haven't heard of Chip's Challenge. It was part of Win31's Microsoft Entertainment Pack.
How many people actually bought c64 mini? I like the fact that the company which manufactures C64 mini allows one to add more games via thumb drive..that's cool.
It's cute, but lag is unacceptable. If it was audio and video coming from a movie, speech would be badly out of sync with the film. It's so not fun to play laggy games. Up until that moment, I was very interested in this. The lag would need to be fixed before I would buy.
Jesus! Interesting video and all of that. I wanted to comment after watching, but I had to stop at 9:18? Artifacts or not, that was just shameful. ;-) OK, I´m a Gianna Sister enthusiast. We made speed runs etc. back then. Best c64 games for me: Gianna Sisters, Krackout.....
I'm curious. Didn't you say in the last video that it emulates the sid chip?? If so I wonder if there would be a way to hack this to run mssiah. I'm not much of a gamer and prefer the c64s musical abilities haha. If you or anyone has any ideas on this I'd love to know because then I'd have to have one of these, but being just for games I can pass this thing up.
I have an old C64, disk drive, floppy’s joysticks bought second hand for less money. I will never buy an emulator because the C64 games are that hard real time.
I haven't got the device yet but a bunch of serious RU-vidrs from the US and Europe have reporte the same lag. Those who don't have any lag are the "lucky ones" or maybe their senses are a bilt dull?
I am wondering about all the comments on delays/no working keyboard etc. Is it that the people here who regularly watch David, Techmoan, LGR, RMC are really the high priest followers and the tiny machines may do quite well away from all that expert knowledge? I can definitely see the tactile angle - you set it up (much like you used to) you plug some stuff in (much like you used to) you grab a joystick (MLYUT) get a new game (MLUYT) albeit it's a USB stick. But hey the makers surely are aiming at an experience that is much like it used to be. I can see that the experience is there and it needs a physical aspect. So I think it a WWCD to mention another channel :)
Hi David! A number of the problems you mention here (Joystick ports, NTSC to PAL emulation switching) are actually managed in the current new firmware as well. Look at the instructions on the firmware download page. It works through renaming the files. Underscore is the prefix, and then for example, you end the filename with J2 to force the Joystick to be in Port 2. You can pick the PAL emulation, and you can map some of the joystick extra buttons to actual keystrokes, to press F or space, or I or Y and N. I think mentioning these is fairly important. Of course it's still more desirable to have these as options in the actual Mini and not requiring renaming of files through other means. Anyways, don't let anybody stress you out over this! Much love!
Agree, I guess he missed this page: thec64.com/file-loader/ Where it shows you how you can change file names or create a .CJM file with configuration options for each file.
It's interesting about the difference in games that you recognise. Coming at it from from a UK perspective, I think we had a slightly different experience of the C64 than you, our US counterparts. That's not to say that either was better or worse, it's just that In the UK, disk drives were really expensive. Where as in the US, disk drives were a lot more affordable (or more common place). They were certainly well beyond anything I could afford at 13. So I think there were a whole lot of disk based games that never made it to the UK (I might be wrong). Vice versa, the tape games that were considered classics in the UK and Europe maybe had lesser impact in the US. Monty on the Run was huge here in the UK and yet you've never heard of Monty Mole. So I think that the original list of games came from a European point of view which is possibly why you were a bit perplexed that you recognised so little of the original list. As you say, now that files can be loaded via USB that issue becomes moot. Great that have done a follow up review.
@@dh2032 Yeah, it was something like $300 for the disk drive and $150 for the C64 in the mid-80's. I borrowed a friend's tape drive for several months, until I could afford the disk drive.
I had a Commodore 64C , the original 1541 was quite expansive , but i personally had a Oceanic OC-118N, it was a very small and light disk drive alternative and way cheaper, it was not relative to commodore company as far as I know, to tell the trust I have never been so glad about that thing, I had a lot of problems even with newly unboxed original games. The commodore 64 itself and the Oceanic Drive returned to repair under warranty always for about 2 months !, but no change, look like I was alone on an island with my C64C. Most of games worked but some as Eye of Horus, Carrier Command, Indiana Jones II ..., never worked sadly :-(
I agree with both of you. Not ignoring criticism is important because some might be appropriate and viewers opinions are part of this business. Not letting the baseless criticism get to you is the more difficult part, but I think David manages that in the best possible way: with facts and respectful correction of people's mistakes. You're doing a fantastic job with this show, never doubt that, because that's what a very large majority of viewers think :)
@@GoatTheGoat Well, I've seen some actual hate for David over on places like Reddit. Seems like if he makes any sort of mistake, people are quick to jump on him about it. There were some comments that went so far as to say that David's videos on the RGB crt mod would get someone killed because he didn't make a disclaimer that it's dangerous to work on a CRT. It's absolutely ridiculous how far some of these people go.
The makers of this pulled a Classic Commodore move... Announce a new product while immediately announcing a more exciting one! Now people will just wait for the functional keyboard version haha
Exactly the route I'll be taking, although supposedly the original backers of the C64 project will get the full size model when its released, I still want an original C64...I do have a C128 but still want a C64...course it would be more fun to have all the Commodore models but some are harder to find and expensive when you do find them.
Someone already crowbarred the Mini into a full size c64 case with a keyrah to connect the original keyboard via usb. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4f3pzuZA2As.html
I think they didn't improve lag at all. Probably the "improvement" is because the old version was running at 720p 50hz (reason why the american tv wasn't working) , and the new one is at 720p 60hz.
Yeah a higher framerate will indeed result in lower input lag. On my 144Hz monitor, there's a noticeable difference when using it at 60 Hz vs 144 Hz in terms of latency. The difference in David's case isn't as big because of the smaller difference in refresh rate, but it is still noticeable.
As far as I remember, the more brown case is like the very first C64 that were manufactured in Brunswick (Braunschweig), Germany. The earliest of them even had a VIC 20 keyboard, because of a delayed delivery. I had one of those which I bought (my first one ever) in May 1982 at our local 'Quelle' department store for a freaking 1398,- DM.
Wow! That is a LOT more than mine cost in 1988 (bought in West Germany). It was 349,- DM, I guess + 299,- DM for the 1541. Yep, a different level of competition six years from your purchase...
There are computers made in Germany (the best), and others made in Britain. I have the two versions. But in France, C64 was very expensive and the market was directed by national need: computers at school, with french Thomson computers (TO7, TO9). Amstrad has taken the public market because Commodore thought that France would close its market with its own French computers and there were many adaptations to do for USA products to enter French market (France had a SECAM tv -better thant Ntsc: to explain, it's like to compare a DVD and a VHS and France already had the proto-internet with the Minitel, and was technologically more advanced than the United States at this point. Computers were not prepared to revolution and they don't want because it was french...).
Flippin awesome review David! I can't imagine what goes through someone's mind that they would send you hate mail or just be argumentative. I felt both reviews were extremely thorough and very enjoyable. Well done sir!
They could only get the rights to the games that CLOANTO owns the copyrights to The Last Ninja games were published by Activision here in North America. It would probably cost an arm and a leg to get the rights to put those games on the mini legally.
This kind of product knows that we will take the images of games to play them on the machine. So, they don't taken games from editors which are alive. I know near 600 games of the C64 (which have more than 2000 games I believe), I can tell you: the list has very good games. Not all the games desired but the copyright was 20 years before a law in USA (Clinton) has given 70 years of rights, and this is so ridiculous for those old games. The games must be in public domain, but the characters and the scenario can be under copyright, to make a modern version for example. A 1984 version of Boulder Dash must be in public domain, but the elements of the game can be under copyright for future modern adaptations, as it is actually: Boulder Dash have PC and Nintendo DS and 3DS version. But the problem is that the two DS versions in retro mode give the same levels of Boulder Dash I (it would be nice to give the levels of Boulder Dash 2).
yikes,, there are loads of iconic games.. Speedball, Cybernoid, all the Thalamus games were huge. i haven't even heard of the ones his playing in this video.
About the tv incompatibility, maybe the European version outputs a 720p50 signal, to keep the 50hz compatibility with pal games, and I hear that not all American TVs are compatible with 720p50 or 1080p50
linoxyard 720p is usually pretty widely supported in my experience, but 50Hz is not universally supported since ATSC/NTSC is 60Hz. I think a lot tends to come down to whether the particular chipset was singularly designed with international support so that the same model TV works anywhere versus whether the chipset and TV were designed specifically for the North American market.
I doubt it. In Europe everything from consoles to phones to pc's is 60fps or higher. There is no CRT hooked up directly to the mains in modern TVs/monitors. In fact, the power supply makes a DC current for the panel, which can be thought of as 0 Hz or infinite Hz. So there's no reason at all to stick with 50fps in Europe, and afaik, we don't.
@@thany3 I'm afraid we do still use 50Hz for some things, so yes 720p50 and 1080p50 are EU standards that exist for backwards compatability with PAL. If they didn't have these 2 standards your old DVD's and consoles would no longer be compatible with newer TV's.
The Vampire project claims to be working on a stand alone A1200 clone. Not sure where that is. But, there are many Amiga in an FPGA-type projects out there.
Actually I would prefer to get an Amiga 2000 full size. Of course it would have to support the classic Amiga 500/2000, the Amiga 600/1200 and the CD32. But that will be a lot harder, since many games come on multiple floppys. With the C64 mini/maxi it's a pain to change disk, the most common Amiga emulator WinUAE let's you do that in a more appropriate way, but it needs a mouse for that. So the best way to do that would be to convert the games to a hard disk installation which of course is not supported by all games or to have a Button to switch to the next disk in the set. Then of course some games support multiple floppy drives (my Amiga hat 2 drives), which reduces the pain a little which comes with games like Indiana Jones 4.
On top of that... puppets with "Cuba Baion" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3NpEqnBkF0w.html as background music. I have a bizarre feeling David watches Techmoan´s videos once in a while just for relaxation :)
You realize that could increase the amount of ridiculous comments, right? The more the comments are featured on the videos, the more attention-grabbing people will make "fake hater" comments to be put in the videos. It's not funny and honestly pretty boring.
Dont know if anyone mentioned this before, but when encountering titles like bruce lee thst requires joystick port 1. Rename and add _J1 after the title like this brucelee_J1.d64 And voila it works.
Great video, makes me want to get one... until you said they're coming out with a full sized full keyboard version, I'll absolutely be picking the up large version unless they price it insanely too high. Just hope they further refine the emulation in the meantime.
Based on the pricing of the existing mini, scaled up, I expect a full size, real keyboard modern C64 would be no less than $150 USD/$180 CAD/€130 if not higher. The mini doesn't have the same design costs a full-size unit with a functional keyboard would need. The price would need to reflect that.
horrible, i want the mini version with a mini built in keyboard. Full Size is DUMB, why a full size when i can simply use my original C64?. and Full Size will add to the cost enormously, like a $99 vs $130 or $140 difference. What Bullocks!. you have your nice glass case with NES Mini, SNES Mini, PS One Mini, AtGames Sega, and Atari Flashback 2, and then this big hulking massive Full Size C64 sticking out like a sore thumb. doesn't make sense.
@@nunyabaznus7851 I have two C64's here, neither of which work, saying why not just use my original C64... well gee, maybe that's because they don't work anymore. Anywho it's not about you, stop thinking everything is about you.
not supporting switchable joystick port is a deal breaker even if there is a work around, the whole point of the device is for plug and play, if I had to fiddle around, I might as well use an emulator.
I have one (although it was a gift - personally I wouldn't have got one myself...I'm actually holding out for the full sized model) There is a fix for the port problem. All you have to do is put _J1 at the end of the file name (before the extension) same for switching between PAL and NTSC If you have a NTSC version, all you do is put _PN at the end of the filename to run a pal image Or you can create a a CJM file, which actually converts a the entire contents of a directory into these modes. For example I have all my Port 1 games in a single directory (at least the NTSC ones) and I created a CJM file which automatically makes all the games in that directory switch to port 1 Hopefully with the next firmware update they would add port switching
Did some audio lag time testing here... Results: C64 Mini to HDTV game mode on = 223ms, Raspberry Pi 3b Combian 64 to HDTV = 225ms, Laptop running Vice x64 to HDTV = 94ms, Laptop running Vice using laptop screen = 39ms. Thanks for the video David.
ANYTHING is a word really meanless. It's not a real word actually. It should never be used. Who invented that word? He should be put in jail right now ! (Complained about ANYTHING right now, you may kick me once.)
@@rollingtroll It's probably that the average age is higher (like me being 63 and a fervent user of a c64 back when it was new) which can lead to some crankiness and an attitude that as an original user type we feel like we know better about things or maybe it's a US versus UK feeling. I don't know. I'm just glad to hear about the c64 again. And I love the 8 bit guy even being from the US.
They are selling the PAL version for 39 Euro (here in Germany), and with the latest firmware update it"s totally worth it. The terrible lag is gone, and custom games are easy to set up and play. It even handles Easyflash files!
Tons of Hewson games, just like you'd find on emulator compilation CD-ROMs with names like "C64 Classix GOLD IV". Presumably they couldn't just pick freely from the most popular or influential games and had to go with what they could licence. IMhO it wasn't/isn't that bad a lineup, though. Cybernoid, Boulder Dash, Monty, IO, Paradroid, Uridium, Mega Apocalypse, Zynaps, Impossible Mission, Nebulus... -- that's some pretty good stuff along with the so-sos. Maybe it's because of when and where I got to know the C64, or when I was reading which games magazines, but I recognised pretty much all of the original titles.
I recognized some of the titles, but I got my C64 in 1990 so I'm more familiar with the late games: Turrican II, Creatures I & II, Exile, Rainbow Islands, Turbo Out Run, Out Run Europa, Microprose Soccer, Commando, Rick Dangerous I & II, Dan Dare 3, Total Recall, Black Tiger, Bionic Commando, Golden Axe, Operation Wolf, Double Dragon, the Impossible Missions, R-type, Last Ninja, IK. These are just some games that I can remeber, but I'm sure there was more...
To be fair, expecting an emulator that almost certainly draws entire frames into a buffer (if not using double-buffering) and then outputs it over HDMI to an LCD television to have the same lag as a system that puts out a live analogue signal one pixel at a time as it draws it to a CRT is kinda unfair. I've done the calculations numerous times, and the simple act of switching from direct output to buffered output alone will introduce at least 16 ms of extra lag. Factor in the realities of how modern displays work and you can expect ANY such device, no matter how good, to lag at least 20 ms behind on the original, (and possibly in worst case as much as 200-300 ms) There's also that other factor I mentioned - buffering. If the emulator draws to an offscreen buffer then shows the result all at once, that is going to have a very obvious consequence compared to a system that draws pixels and scanlines individually in realtime (otherwise known as 'racing the beam'.) If you change something midframe on the second type of system, the change is instant. Do that on a system that has a frame buffer, and the result won't show up until the next frame starts to be drawn. I'm fairly sure it is pretty much impossible to mimic an old 80's or 90's system that outputs to a CRT this way on modern LCD display hardware without introducing at least SOME extra lag. I'm reasonably confident even something like the Super Nt, which is about as close as you're likely to get to a hardware perfect clone of an old system with modern features included has additional lag over the original console just because of having HDMI output and the implications of how modern TV's and monitors work. It's near enough to inevitable.
Thankfully since this review it's been updated so it's easy to change the joystick port now without having to hack the game itself, i'm pretty sure they've made it easier multi loaders too but haven't tried it myself. Oddly i don't seem to be getting much lag with my mini.. it's been running very well with the most up to date firmware. I agree it's a lot of faffing about with USB hubs, and keyboards, with plugs and wires but at least it's all playable, i like to think plugging in a usb hub is like plugging in a datasette lol
I do not understand the complaints personally about the games selection here....any Commodore fan should already know that the C64 and particularly the Amiga were more popular in Europe and Australasia. The European software scene was a vast part of its successes. Without such mainly British software houses the C64 would have died an earlier death for sure. While the selection here is most certainly not the top rated games of Lemon 64 they at least to a European market have a fairly balanced selection of C64 titles, although certainly not the best. With Centresoft (trading as U.S. Gold) importing US titles alongside others that did it alone not only did we have great titles from the likes of Epyx, Access, Sierra, Electronic Arts, Luscasfilms, Activision, Firebird and Microprose joining alongside the likes of Hewson, Gremlin Graphics, System 3, Ocean, Imagine, Melbourne House (Beam Software), Rainbow Arts, Thalamus, Electric Dreams to name but a few. Looking at Lemon 64 highest rated titles 4/10 of them are European. Looking at the list of games included within the C64 Mini we have software represented from First Star, Hewson, Epyx, Mikro-Gen, Gremlin Graphics, Thalamus, Odin, Software Projects, Firebird, Martech, 21st Century Entertainment, Microsphere, Imageworks, Electric Dreams, Alligata. First Star and Epyx being the only two NA software companies on both the European and NA C64 Mini. The North American switchout games are predominantly from Epyx (West Bank - Gremlin Graphics). I am presuming it is all down to what licensing they could get, there is a heavy bias on this game selection particularly to Epyx and Hewson and then Odin, Thalamus and Gremlin Graphics predominantly. It most certainly does not represent the best games from the US and elsewhere, it would need titles from Lucasfilm (Rescue On Fractalus, Eidolon, Maniac Mansion, Koronis Rift etc), Ocean (Sensible Software titles such as Parallax, Wizball, Denton Designs - Frankie Goes to Hollywood, alongside some of Ocean's/Imagine's coin-op conversions), Activision (H.E.R.O, Ghostbusters, Park Patrol, Hacker, Master Of The Lamps), more Thalamus titles (Creatures, Sanxion, Winter Camp etc), Access Software (Leaderboard, Beach Head, Raid Over Moscow)....the list could go on, but I think many would get the point, and licensing I am sure would have been problematic.
WTF?! Why can't you just type letters on the Mini C64 keyboard? Is it like not a real keyboard or something? It's a shame they ruined this product. That is completely unplayable to me. No Keypad, No Keyboard = Sucks. Jesus Christ, can't use the joy stick, can't use the built in Keyboard, Can't play Side 2 of disks. Why the hell was this even released? This entire project is a complete failure. Still can't play the C64 games I had and remember.
Really just a toy for a bit of nostalgia, especially with that crazy lag. If you want a serious modern C64, an Ultimate64 or perhaps a MiSTer are the only real options but they're pricey.
The problem with the lag is not the TV game mode or the joystick, it's the emulator itself. You can test it by yourself. Go into the C64 menu and then press the button to turn the menu music on and off, you will experience this will be triggered instant. The lag begins when the emulator itself is started.
Hi David! Keep up the good work! I love your videos and appreciate your honest opinion and criticism. It's easy to flamebate anonymously from behind a keyboard. I hope the hate mails weren't to insulting.
I notice there is no Archon 2, Druid 1 and 2, Legacy of the Ancients, Adventure Creator, or Magnetron on the games list. Why bother making built in games when they left out all the good ones? There is nothing on that list I remember or want to play. I managed to find everything except Legacy of the Ancients, but I still can't get them to work on C64 Emulators. I was hoping Mini might be an option, but I guess I'll never play them again.
You are measuring the delay (input lag of the C64 mini plus LCD controller shenanigans plus LCD crystal switching times) of the whole system in your test. And since you switched monitors, it is in no way comparable to the test you did with the C64 mini EU version. The signal also seems to be 60Hz vs 50Hz, which is a speed up for 20% right there. So "scientific" isn't the word I'd use for this test. It is a useful data point, sure. And you don't deserve to get "hate" for it. But some criticisim is valid and it is a good idea to look at that and improve your future videos and methods. :) And even CRTs aren't inherently lag free. Prad.de made a great article about it where they profiled several monitors using a high end oscilloscope. If you use an analog signal to drive the CRT, it is likely that it is lag free. But if you feed it a digital signal (especially later model CRTs accepted digital DVI and widescreen ones often have HDMI ports), the monitor will need to convert it to analog signals, since those drive the display (as opposed to LCDs, which work the other way around, simply speaking). I myself am too young to have fond memories of the C64. But this does not do anything for me. Without a keyboard, this is just a worse, more constrained android emulation box with some legit games. And overpriced at that. Even without tinkering you can get retroarch and similar on those machines and it works pretty well.
@@DeathPrevails77713 Just because someone suggested to play Planet X2 makes you that sensitive enough just to say "ShUT Up"? What kind of person would do that?
@@Hellwyck I`m very happy. That`s why I can`t imagine doing that. I`ve also got a RU-vid channel and I have received new toys today to review, so why shouldn`t I be happy. Greetings
@@Sonicfoxtrot Then why waste the energy to click on dislike? I only click like when I really like it. It`s too much effort doing that on every video I watch.
JustWasted3HoursHere: Yes, like the C64-in-a-joystick thing I had, designed by Jeri Ellsworth. But getting USB and HDMI support for a common SoC is a matter of commonly available code, while the original C64 did not support USB or HDMI, so an FPGA C64 would still have to have USB and HDMI support added. Using a common SoC would be the easiest way ... but then the FPGA is spending a lot of development effort just to cut back on the lag of what the SoC can do on its own.
@@brucemcfarling7810 I'm pretty sure there's already a fully developed FPGA core out there for the Commodore 64. When I talk about lag, I'm talking about input lag when playing games and such. A delay between the transmission of video from the unit and the TV displaying it must be virtually undetectable, I would imagine. As for Jeri Ellsworth, that woman is a freaking genius! There's a lecture from her on RU-vid somewhere that is fascinating to watch (although it's terrible quality: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g05Wfqv-8es.html ). And her channel here on YT is very cool as well. She made a C64 electric guitar for _Maker Fair_ : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_kDhpFaf4EY.html and a SoC Amiga (unfinished and never went into production: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5uaDzF99a80.html ). She taught herself chip design.... Here's a more recent lecture from her with MUCH better quality: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tOb9BIYjvA0.html Someone should make a movie about her.
I'm 100% sure there is ... but it replaces the chips in the C64. That is the point, after all, since while you can get 6502 processors that can act as a 6510 with a simple daughterboard, failing SID chips are harder to replace. And an exact replica of the functioning of the C64 chips also implies that USB support and HDMI support have to be added. In terms of engineering, it's straightforward to do that with the right SOC that takes the video output from the FPGA and outputs the HDMI digital output and handles the USB and uses its GPIO to drive the joystick ports and keyboard matrix. The issue is the business model ... that SOC can also be programmed to emulate the C64, and dropping the FPGA from the design simplifies the design, reduces development time, and reduces build cost, so both overhead and production costs are lower. So it's a lot more likely that a hobbyist with the resources (skills and finances) AND interest to do it does the FPGA+SOC design and a lot more likely that a commercial firm does an SOC-only design.
The Mini Consoles, like NES, and C64 are a great idea, but they need to include EVERY GAME EVER MADE built in, otherwise it's useless. Why bother buying such a thing when I CAN find every game ever made on Emulator? Buying the mini systems at all is only for the sake of Vanity, Nostalgia, and Loyalty, but if they can't include the games I want to play, then they don't deserve my money. Same with the Wii Virtual console and Switch. Seriously. I have downloaded torrent file package that incl every game ever made for NES, SEGA, SNES, for free on my HP computer. The NES Library takes up a whopping 2 gigs of disk space. You mean to tell me, they can't design an NES mini console with 2 gigs of memory available that includes the entire library? What a worthless crapfest. Looks like the C64 mini is just as bad What a pity as the idea for the mini consoles is good Nostalgia.
@Metagalactic Llama You don't know how many games were never release in Europe and I still know and even imported some of them back then. Also we send Ultima clear datas to the US to get certificates from Origin for completing them. Look at all the cracking groups all across the world, that were importing cracked versions from other groups. We had something called gaming mags that reported about game releases across the world even if many never were released in our countries. I still remember the outrage of lots of gamers when another game was not coming out in Europe, like Chrono Cross for example. PS: If Wikipedia is correct, Armalyte was released in the US. gamefaqs.gamespot.com/c64/564842-armalyte/data
nunya baznus: The C64 I bought in 1982 was my main word processing computer when I went away to grad school in 1989. I had a daisywheel printer, a small color TV, a 1581 drive and a fastloader cart of some sort. I had got a C128D before that time, but it's processor got fried when I inserted the datasette power tap for my parallel printer interface upside down. Turns out it's risky putting Microprocessor lines straight out into a card-edge connector. But anyway, that keyboard got a lot of use.
Regarding the different colours, I think both are correct. My c64 back in the days had the lighter gray shade as the north American mini while my cousin had one more in the shade of the European. Both of them were bought here in Sweden, so maybe there were different revisions with different colours?
Rename the program to program_J1.ext to tell the firmware it's a Joystick 1 game
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Any emulator has some delay especially with sound, since it has some audio buffer. Every emulators running on a "regular" OS, I mean, and here Linux was mentioned. To avoid this (and maybe other kind of delays as well?) some kind of real-time OS is needed, or even much better, kind of "bare metal" emulator construction (bare metal means a software - here an emulator - designed and developed to run without any OS at all, so it has absolutely precise control - at CPU clock level - on hardware resources, what are usually scheduled by the OS - if we have one - and does not allow the same level of precision). In theory it's possible to develop an emulator that way, though I haven't seen too much of them. Maybe Pi64 was a project like this, to run on the Raspberry Pi, but not using any OS, just the emulator itself directly interacts with the Pi's hardware, in that particular case. Surely, these kind of emulators are rare, since emulators are typically written for PCs using different hardware (different GPUs, sound cards etc etc). However a custom made hardware for a given emulator makes that possible to have a single hardware platform to develop for, thus problem solved.
I agree with you on the audio buffer. I actually wrote an Atari 2600 emulator for Windows. System and hardware limitations prevented precise timing of the frame rate, so had to create an algorithm to compensate to keep the average frame rate as steady as possible. Audio had to be buffered, it was not really an option. A short buffer increases risk of buffer overrun or underrun, due to the aformentioned timing irregularities, and underruns especially will result in gravelly audio which is much less pleasant than a delay.
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@@sa3270 Yes, yes, I also wrote some emulators, that's why I've mentioned, also from experience.
What you are describing already exists in form of FPGA based systems, which reproduce the original logic/chips in software with exact timing and behaviour. Just look for "Ultimate64" and "MiSTer".
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@@ThomasAbts Yes, I know, I also did some VHDL level stuff on FPGAs, including the implementation of a Z80 based computer (Primo, a Hungarian one, not so well known outside of Hungary, I guess). But now I discussed the possibility to write emulators with more exact timing, that's another question.
Armalyte, Boulder Dash, Hawkeye, Speedball2 and the 2 trailblazers have been popular here in Germany as well as most of the games you mentioned that you played them. However, most of the new Games of the US version I dont know xD. Not complaining, just my 2cents.. Your videos are great!
Some people prefer to play their games how they were intended. Some emulators aren't exactly accurate either, and yes their illegal, although most companies don't seem to really care. Besides, they're a neat novelty imo.
Actually I should clarify, the first statement is only to those who like to use the original hardware. Mini game systems are more of a novelty at best, since most just simply use raspberry pis or other emulators. It can still be worth it in some or even most cases.
9:08 fyi, you can create a "CJM" file, which is a text file that sets up options like emulation mode (PAL vs NTSC) and Joystick port number. I believe the information is documented on the TheC64 web site. thec64.com/file-loader/
Hi, at 10:40, you say the "fifteen forty-one". But if my memory serves me, they were called the 154 One and 154 Two. The second 1 would be a Roman 1 and next to this model, there was also the 154II (Roman II). Do you know anything more about this?
Had to subscribe JUST BECAUSE of the C64 vids. It was my first/only computer growing up & you made me feel frk'n old. Keep up the awesome vids....it think.
Lot of really good games they could have added to this. Raid on Bungling Bay. Wolf. Racing destruction set. And a multiplayer sequential input Star Trek game, I have yet to recall the name of, based on the Star Fleet Battles board game. Also, Archon, and Archon 2. And the Autoduel game based on the old Autoduel board game. Eidolon is another. All excellent games.
I remember selling my C64 with 300+ games, heaps of joysticks, 5 1/4' drive, tape drive, gameshark cartridge that would allow cheats in almost any game. Was so much better then 286 and even most 386 computers
Renaming the file to have a _J1 or _J2 can change the port the game uses. Also you can add a file with the same name as the game with a .cjm extension to map some keys to the joystick buttons such Space, F1, Return, Letters or Numbers. However you only have 7 buttons and 4 positions on the joystick directions that can be mapped. The bottom right button is reserved for the Menu. see the File Loader for more info. thec64.com/file-loader/?fbclid=IwAR0jgji3WBHtV60IoqixUjF2EUBOIn3_cfMzMw5-1VZpD5hRRB3rCkqIdrc
I think you need to define "hate mail". Everything you said after calling hate mail sounded like normal critiques of your video. Just because someone disagrees with you, it doesn't mean it's hate.
