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THE CAR THAT BIRTHED A TRADEMARK! The Story of Red 5 and the Williams FW10 

Aidan Millward
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In 1985, Nigel Mansell joined Williams from Lotus, and was given the car number 5. Over the years, this number, painted in a specific colour, would become Il Leone's trademark as Mansell Mania swept Britain.
So how did it all come about? It's quite simple, and the car that birthed this trademark is quite interesting too.
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@LuminalSpoon
@LuminalSpoon Год назад
Fun fact, if you swap any 2 digit numbers around (e.g. 19 to 91) it'll always have a difference that is a multiple of 9 (91-19=72 which is divisible by 9).
@Ramtamtama
@Ramtamtama Год назад
unless both digits are the same
@AU10ZC
@AU10ZC Год назад
Except if they are the same number. For example 11, 22, 33, 44, 55, 66, 77, 88, 99. After swapping them around they still have a difference of 0
@antonpeterson1245
@antonpeterson1245 Год назад
To add on to this, the difference of the digits in the 2-digit number, multipled by 9 gives you the difference of reciprocal numbers. For example 13 & 31: the difference between 1 & 3 is 2. 2 x 9 = 18. The difference between 13 & 31 is 18.
@kevrayner8427
@kevrayner8427 Год назад
The math checks out, (10a+b)-(10b+a) simplifies to 9(a-b), therefore always divisible by 9.
@SylviusTheMad
@SylviusTheMad Год назад
​@@AU10ZC 0 is a multiple of 9.
@ReclusiveDuck
@ReclusiveDuck Год назад
Mansell Mania is the reason I started watching F1. His interview with Jodie Kidd is well worth watching, to hear the great man himself talk about his injuries is eye-opening.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Год назад
It’s fantastic.
@ScarletCharlotte
@ScarletCharlotte Год назад
When you showed the 1984 season results my jaw dropped at the number of retirements. I'm so used to seeing only two or three retirements, at most, from a driver in a year that seeing a sheet that looks 50% purple shocked me.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Год назад
Look up barrichellos results from 97 or JV’s from 99. 🤣
@ScarletCharlotte
@ScarletCharlotte Год назад
@@AidanMillward Oh my god! Villeneuve's was one thing. But I choked looked at Barrichello's because of the 2nd at Monza!
@vlonebroken
@vlonebroken Год назад
@@ScarletCharlotte Monaco**
@RomanShopa
@RomanShopa Год назад
As you mentioned Star Wars, I can also recall a film "The Big Red One" - the number Mansell so deserved yet never had in F1 - with Mark Hamill in one of the leading roles.
@TrueCrazyLion
@TrueCrazyLion Год назад
I actually checked this out a couple of years back, since I’ve always had a great interest in the 1985 season due to it being a cracker, especially in the early rounds. It was at the 1985 Canadian GP that Nige first ran the Red 5 on his car. It feels like this season transformed his career in so many ways! Excellent video Aidan 🙌
@jk_46
@jk_46 Год назад
Hope he thanked Keke for that first win 😂, Nigel deserved it but Keke helped make it a reality. Pity Keke left Williams for 86!
@gherbo1609
@gherbo1609 Год назад
seb brought the red 5 to silverstone last year, sounds incredible
@thembanjoko2844
@thembanjoko2844 Год назад
Nigel Mansell and the red 5 were an iconic paring similar to NASCAR's icons like Dale Earnhardt and the 3 or Jeff Gordon in the 24.
@rossrreyes
@rossrreyes Год назад
As a long time F1 fan I know NOTHING about stock car racing
@mrterp04
@mrterp04 Год назад
Although I always found it funny that people refer to it as the black number 3 when it’s white with a red outline
@CyanRooper
@CyanRooper Год назад
Don't forget Lightning McQueen and 95.
@polycube868
@polycube868 Год назад
​@mrterp04 the car was black, yes the actual number was white with red outline, but the first year (1988) he drove a Goodwrench sponsored car the number 3 was silver chrome with red outline.
@l1a146
@l1a146 Год назад
Haha. Cars that were "less killy" were very likely much appreciated at the time. Nice description. 👌
@y_fam_goeglyd
@y_fam_goeglyd Год назад
Odd bits of history are always interesting. You also always manage to add something I didn't know, even when it's a story with which I am familiar. So yes, more please!
@samiraperi467
@samiraperi467 Год назад
Red 5 standing by!
@papayamadness1019
@papayamadness1019 Год назад
When I saw the tittle my eyes lit up by the end they'll be full of tears, miss these years mire than you will ever know Red 5 ftw❤
@williamwilson4705
@williamwilson4705 Год назад
My eyes light up when I see tittles too.
@Djarra
@Djarra Год назад
Nigel also ran a red 5 on a Jordan at the London F1 Demo in 2003
@judethedude96
@judethedude96 Год назад
This is a positive comment for the RU-vid Al Gore Rhythm.
@PaladinNL5
@PaladinNL5 Год назад
I usually add a 5, even when it's not needed, on my usernames because of .... well Sebastian Vettel. But Seb chose 5 to tribute to the famous red 5. So I guess in a way I'm also paying tribute to this iconic number.
@jk_46
@jk_46 Год назад
FW10 is my all time favorite F1 car ever! Keke driving the wheels off it is my favorite driver car combo, from silverstone fastest average speed lap ever recorded, last to third at brands being a lap down, win at US gp, P2 at Kyalami banging fastest laps at the end to winning at Adelaide. If Keke and Nigel had that end of year reliability from the start of 85 I don't think mclaren would have had that season all their own way!!
@neilperry2224
@neilperry2224 Год назад
Williams also had a carbon fibre gearbox , but it failed everytime they used it,till they worked out the paddle shift gearbox.
@MrReese
@MrReese Год назад
Whenever people talk about historical F1 things that are relevant because of Murray Walker I am always like: well, I am not from the UK, my broadcast did not feature him (yet we had our own legendary commentator: Heinz Prüller) and I didn't even know who he was before he passed away.
@DeanCJC
@DeanCJC Год назад
Where was the Human Intervention "Red Five" baxking track on this video? 🙂. (I had it on cassett!) Great video as always.
@kevinprior3549
@kevinprior3549 Год назад
Mansell was my hero. He was definitely to me the British Senna. Deserved more championships than just the 1 in 1992.
@sergioleone3583
@sergioleone3583 Год назад
Except Mansell didn't take Prost off in the Ferrari at the beginning of a GP, with 24 cars behind him going well over 100 MPH... And yes, Mansell certainly deserved 86, and 87 was close too.
@iwantanaivanovic2962
@iwantanaivanovic2962 7 месяцев назад
Big Nige did not take senna out during '92 Monaco as well -- in bright contrast to how senna paid back to Big Nige during '92 Australian GP by crashing into the Red 5 car.
@SteffenT1981
@SteffenT1981 Год назад
I think another reason why Nigel got a red 5 also had to do with the helmets of Rosberg and Mansell. As long as Laffite drove the second car Williams had no problems to identify their drivers from the pitwall. Laffite had a darkgreen helmet, while Rosberg had a white and blue helmet seen from the front. When Nigel joined Williams they suddenly had two drivers with similar looking helmets - at least from a long distance. When Thierry Boutsen replaced Mansell for the 1989 and 1990 seasons there was no reason for Williams to stick to a different colour of the starting number. Boutsen wore a black helmet, while Patrese's helmet was white.
@GaryWagers
@GaryWagers Год назад
It took me a long time to figure out numbers in F1, but it didn't really matter to me because I could barely see them anyway and went by livery and the commentary to figure out who'd crashed (and sometimes I'd remember which driver was supposed to have a red T-camera and which one was supposed to have neon yellow, so that helped). I came to F1 from NASCAR, where numbers are chosen and held by the teams (so if a driver changes teams, they get a new number too); it's also a lot easier to see numbers on a stock car, so they meant more to me there than in F1. Since I couldn't see F1 car numbers anyway, I liked the "assigned by points" system because it meant that I could see how a team was progressing (or not) just by looking up their car numbers and dividing by two, but it didn't affect my ability to understand the race at a glance. Changing the system so drivers hold their numbers permanently was initially frustrating (since I thought it was a cheap shadow of the NASCAR system), but now that the numbers are larger and more visible (and TV and broadcast quality is much better, for that matter), I do appreciate knowing where to look to see which red or silver or blue car is in the wall.
@Dat-Mudkip
@Dat-Mudkip Год назад
tbf F1 was a bit unusual with its numbering system prior to the adoption of "pick your own number". If you don't include giving only the reigning champion access to the number one, what other sport used the goofy system that F1 did?
@aaronaaronsen3360
@aaronaaronsen3360 Год назад
I still don't know all the drivers numbers and usually do identify the cars with the livery + the colour of the camera thingy on top (black or yellow).
@joemueller-zt9hn
@joemueller-zt9hn Год назад
man you really do tell the best stories
@tbone121974
@tbone121974 Год назад
Mansell is the driver I became a fan of during my childhood. There were times he was unlucky; losing races through no fault of his own. The famous shot of him overtaking Senna when his tyre blew springs to mind. The race where Mansell was in the lead a couple of laps from the end of the race, only for the car to go one way, and one of wheels the other. I remember seasons where he would lead the championship only for unreliability to dash his fortunes. I watched the Cart season in 1993 on ITV religiously. Definitely a driver that deserved to be a multiple world champion. I feel fortunate enough to witness a fantastic era in F1 history. Accompanied by the commentary of Murray Walker and James Hunt was the icing on the cake. Nowadays it's not one driver I follow. I'd love to see Perez, Russell win a world championship. It would be great to see Alonso win another title with Aston Martin. I wonder whether Mansell is the unluckiest driver in F1? Over to you Aidan.
@mikehipperson
@mikehipperson Год назад
No, the unluckiest driver was Chris Amon who had so many race winning performances but was inevitably let down when the car expired (Ferrari, are your ears burning?)!
@johnyossarian1135
@johnyossarian1135 Год назад
I'm not a mansell fan but it's amazing how many interesting stories surround him.
@captainmagenta899
@captainmagenta899 Год назад
Thank you, I've been meaning to ask what the story was behind Red 5. Another Red 5 fact: Schumacher had it on his car for the 94 Spanish GP. I can't remember the reasoning, but as he got stuck in 5th gear for most of the race, I'm guessing it was considered unlucky and didn't use it again.
@martyndaly1539
@martyndaly1539 Год назад
3:50 look at all those retirements!
@jonathanohagan1349
@jonathanohagan1349 Год назад
Skip, skip. I wouldn't skip a lecture on stuff, I may or may not know. Keep it coming.
@thembanjoko2844
@thembanjoko2844 Год назад
F1's number system back then was unique where the teams chose what numbers to run like Ferrari using the 27 and 28, and Tyrrell using the numbers 3 and 4 for example, it was similar to Indycar and NASCAR's number system.
@PEPSIMaxMusic
@PEPSIMaxMusic Год назад
They didn't choose. It was based off the 1971 constructors result. Tyrell never won the constructors after that year or had a campion drive for them, so they kept 3 and 4 for the duration of this system.
@TrickyMario7654
@TrickyMario7654 Год назад
Mansell ran 2 at Ferrari in 1990, due to Prost bringing the number 1 to the team that year.
@matthpotte
@matthpotte Год назад
And 27 in 1989 at Ferrari when he left Williams, Berger ran 28
@ingopaul67
@ingopaul67 Год назад
Takes me back to my late teens, a classic era, and for me Nigel is my all time favourite driver.
@mramaz1ngarry728
@mramaz1ngarry728 Год назад
I was literally just reading about nigel on Wikipedia and the part about red 5. Seconds before I seen this.
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 Год назад
Nigel Mansell is my favourite F1 driver of all time. Partly because he's English, like me, but he was such a great driver, and doesn't get the credit that he should. In my opinion. Plus he knew that his car in 1988 couldn't compete with the Turbocharged cars of the other top teams, he gave an interview where he said that he would probably improve his golf because he had no chance that season!! He won the 1992 World Championship and then the 1993 Indycar championship which showed how great he was.
@The_BenboBaggins
@The_BenboBaggins Год назад
I liked the video because ooh, I didn't know that
@Taschenrechner85
@Taschenrechner85 Год назад
Here's an idea for a 'what if' story/scenarios (out of all the many what ifs we could talk about). What if Mansell had stayed on at Williams for 1995 at the expense of Coulthard? In Maurice Hamilton's Williams book from 2009 Adrian Newey said that wanted Mansell to stay for 1995, but Frank and Patrick wanted Coulthard. Williams' race strategies were poor in 1995, so even a fully re-re-motivated Mansell won't have been a guarantee for the Championship.
@stephenbritton9297
@stephenbritton9297 Год назад
My mind got to the Star Wars reference about 2 seconds before you said it!
@raykewin3608
@raykewin3608 Год назад
Fine work.
@minibus9
@minibus9 Год назад
awesome video
@nelson408.
@nelson408. Год назад
The FW11B won the constructors championship in 1987, not the FW12. The FW12 was the Judd engined 1988 car.
@kevinprior3549
@kevinprior3549 Год назад
I stood next to Mansell's 86-87 car at Beaulieu. It was an amazing feeling.
@MisFakapek
@MisFakapek Год назад
good one!
@AbCat4
@AbCat4 Год назад
If Mansell has been the same size and weight as, say, Alain Prost, I wonder how many more races and championships he might have won.
@Holden308
@Holden308 Год назад
Alan Jones for the rest of his racing career even when using a variety of other numbers, and to this day, still maintains that 27 is his favourite number. Ironically had he accepted Ferrari's late 1982 offer to replace Didier Pironi, he would have been driving the No.28.
@Holden308
@Holden308 Год назад
Ferrari did actually contact Jones after Pironi's accident to see if he would replace him in the team. Jones had been close to signing with Ferrari back in the late 70s, but they had gone with Gilles Villeneuve instead. By late 1982, Jones was looking to make a comeback to F1. But, remembering the last time he talked to Ferrari, Jones gave them the run-around and by the time he decided to say yes, they'd already signed Mario Andretti for the rest of the year. Had Jones gone to Ferrari its likely that as a World Champion he would have been offered a contract for 1983 and beyond. And Ferrari won the Constructors' title in 1983 so Jones could have challenged at the very least for another title in that car. Its something he regrets.
@kevinprior3549
@kevinprior3549 24 дня назад
You forgot to mention that Red 5 also appeared at Donington at the end of the 1993 BTCC season.
@JoshuaC923
@JoshuaC923 Год назад
Ouuuu that's interesting, i didn't know that
@francoisdvanderwesthuizen6772
The thing is, if you mention "red 5" in F1 circles most of the guys around would know its Nigel Mansell... Seb would come from the younger fans, but even most of them knows who the original red 5 was...
@gordonwallin2368
@gordonwallin2368 Год назад
Thanks, now do a bit on Le Mans, 'cause you can 😁 Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
@terminateshere
@terminateshere Год назад
I'm very worried that at least one person is thinking 'fish finger pizza? Well, maybe......'.
@MrAlexFortis
@MrAlexFortis Год назад
Interesting video, thanks. It somehow reminded me, thath red and green colour blindness is the most common form of colour blindness... and theese are the colours of traffic lights 😅
@sandalphoncpu
@sandalphoncpu Год назад
If Ferrari hadn’t fired their trackside team from Alonso’s years, Vettel would’ve won multiple titles for Ferrari and the red 5 would’ve been more iconic
@PlittHD
@PlittHD Год назад
I wonder if we will have a driver in the future that goes full meme and picks 69 (nice)
@samiraperi467
@samiraperi467 Год назад
Kalle Rovanperä uses 69 in WRC.
@aydankhaliq2967
@aydankhaliq2967 Год назад
Nicky Hayden used 69 in MotoGP
@chrisstephens6194
@chrisstephens6194 Год назад
James whitham used 69 in superbike and supersport
@DeanCJC
@DeanCJC Год назад
Jason Doyle is 69 in the Speedway GP's
@Enevan1968
@Enevan1968 Год назад
What about the numers pre-1974? Would love to hear the story on taht - if you haven't done it already.
@BobGeogeo
@BobGeogeo Год назад
Also when driver's names were on the front sides of the car.
@kallo182
@kallo182 Год назад
Everything was so cool back than. The Cars, the Action, the Rules, the Tracks... Also, all good Drivers back than switched between the Teams. Mansel drove Lotus, Ferrari, Williams, McLaren... Prost did the same. But today it seems like Drivers belong to the Team forever. The Teams suport the Drivers since their Childhood, and that is the Reason why they stay their whole Life in the Team. Back in the Days good Drivers like Leclerc or Norris could join a better Team and get Chance to drive for Win. But today they are forever in Ferrari, or McLaren.
@slowerthinker
@slowerthinker Год назад
For a brief moment I thought that you had said that an FW18 chassis could cost up to £30. Bargain I thought, but then I twigged :o(
@wswan81
@wswan81 Год назад
Fish Fingers on a pizza? Dang...why isnt this a thing?
@minibus9
@minibus9 Год назад
and custard for pudding
@weslittlereptilefamily3418
@weslittlereptilefamily3418 Год назад
I've always taken zero whenever I could.
@rossluke901
@rossluke901 Год назад
I forgot vettel 1st title was in red 5
@de-fault_de-fault
@de-fault_de-fault Год назад
I really hate the permanent number system. It's probably stupid of me to hate it, but I hate it. It's never occurred to me to blame Mansell for it, but...now I blame Mansell for it. Perhaps also interesting to note that in the early '90s CART had decidedly non-permanent numbers in use, and Newman/Haas getting the 5 for Mansell was not necessarily a sure thing. A team/driver was entitled to the number reflecting their previous year's result if they so chose (so not just 1 for the champion, but 2 for second place and so on). Some would pass and stick with a familiar number, leaving their points-based number up for grabs. Complicating things further, the Indy 500 was a one-race USAC championship at this time, and as CART had carried this numbering custom over from USAC, USAC was still doing it based on their own "championship results," so you would sometimes see full-time drivers/teams' numbers shuffled for the one race. As it happened, CART's number 2 for the bulk of the 1993 season would have been offered first to Michael Andretti, whose seat Mansell was filling. But the CART number 5 would have been offered to Scott Goodyear and Walker Racing, who would have been entitled to USAC's #2 at Indianapolis. So in effect a trade was made, allowing Mansell to use the 5 all season and Goodyear to use the 2 all season.
@sergioleone3583
@sergioleone3583 Год назад
For many years I had "Il Leone" as my car's license plate. It was appropriate that he ran the 27 at Ferrari. BTW, I think it's lame how the FIA started designating specific number for a driver for their career a few years ago. Lame, but then so is just about anything the FIA has done for just about ever.
@kevinprior3549
@kevinprior3549 Год назад
What's the matter with 0? I'd have that if I couldn't have 5. I thought 0 on Hill's Williams was just as iconic as Mansell's red 5.
@VonBlade
@VonBlade Год назад
I feel your pain. My first F1 car love was the 79 312T4. Then the Lotus 97T. Then the MP4/4. I mean, even £30 is stretching my budget, but unfortunately two of my cars are icons. Luckily I don't like any of the post 97 designs. Too fiddly.
@paulrichter2863
@paulrichter2863 Год назад
Question about the rules regarding Williams’ 0/2 numbers in 1993: Did they get them because they were the team in which Mansell won, or because they took the Constructor’s title? That is, hypothetically if Mansell had taken the driver’s title in a Williams car and retired, but McLaren took the constructors title, would 0/2 have gone to McLaren?
@williamwilson4705
@williamwilson4705 Год назад
The latter
@jimcurt99
@jimcurt99 Год назад
Red 5 will ALWAYS be Star Wars for me...
@tangerinedream7211
@tangerinedream7211 Год назад
Some folks aren't actually bad at maths, there's a condition called dyscalculia.
@HammerHeart3229
@HammerHeart3229 Год назад
I feel daft now... Which driver is associated with number 8? I'm sat here racking my brains but I'm drawing a total blank 😂 8:29, I'd be prepared to send a lot of IOUs to own a Williams FW19. Five year old me loved that car back in the day and still does! Looking back I would argue 1997 was possibly the year with the prettiest grid! From memory at least I can't recall one car on the grid that was a minger that year. Bit off topic I know but I'm just throwing that out there!
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Год назад
Grosjean
@mclarenjohnf1
@mclarenjohnf1 Год назад
Seb Vettel paid £2.7 Million for the FW14B and then I know he had a hell of a lot of work done on it.
@AlfredTheGreatestEver
@AlfredTheGreatestEver Год назад
Fish fingers on a pizza doesn't sound that bad
@areasquirrel
@areasquirrel Год назад
This never meant anything to me. It probably boils down to the fact that if their numbers are different colours, then the cars aren't symmetrical, which winds me up. It still does in F2, F3 and now IndyCar, with sponsors or backers having their colours on, and multiple drivers being in different teams, but all in Red Bull liveries, *and* their sponsors. It's not neat, dammit! You want to tell the drivers apart, we've got helmets for that! The driver numbers thing is the same, it means as little to me as shirt numbers in ball sports. They're just numbers, who cares? The tying of a number to a person is silly to me. The only number that matters is 1, that's the champion, and it should be mandatory. Looking at you here, Lewis. 'No. 44' sounds like a bus, not a racing car, how do you get excited over that? So anyway, Red 5, nah. That's not Mansell. The big eff off moustache, now that's Mansell.
@JoshuaC923
@JoshuaC923 Год назад
😂
@smac4749
@smac4749 Год назад
White 6 > Red 5 😁
@kevinprior3549
@kevinprior3549 Год назад
The red 5 made me get into F1. Now Max is putting me off F1.
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