Follow me on Twitch channel: / nickyboi Join my Discord: / discord Follow me on Twitter: / nickyboiyt Thumbnail art by @FootballHead825 Fan-made Kog'Maw VGU by: www.deviantart.com/sneiks #Leagueoflegends #VGU #VGUPoll
Aight fellas, real talk. This winter break was the first time I've had real dedicated time to work on videos for a very long time now, so I went a bit crazy. I didn't really get to HAVE a holiday cause i spent it working on videos. And while I loved it and I'm super happy with how most of them turned out, I can't deny I'm getting tired, and I think the quality of my video making shows that in full force here. I'm already back at University and I'm not refreshed AT ALL. I'm incredibly worried I'm going to burn out, and that's the last thing I want. TDLR besides next week's Subathon and our usually rapid fire skin review, I'm going to be taking a break from video making for a few weeks. To veterans of the channel I'm sure that seems like nothing, but to all the new fellas it might feel a bit stranger. There will still be a few videos going up, but other than that, I'm going to do my best to take a break for a bit. All of the videos on urgent topics are done for the most part (yes, that means no Zeri video, maybe I'll make on in the future but i honestly don't have enough to say about her), so coming back i'll be making videos on just whatever i feel like i want to talk about :D In any case lads, ty for taking the time to read this if you did, 100k subathon next week, ill have details about it on my community page/twitter/discord in the coming days so stay posted for that if u're interested. That's all from me lads, take care of yourseleves
I'd love it if Kog'maw had this one ability where he will eat any incoming skillshot and shoot it back, Idk for a champ that's the mouth of the abyss and has an insatiable hunger, he doesn't really feel like that. I do like him spitting at champs and chucking a loogie as a mortar
This poll was really strange, the prior ones we voted in the one that had the most potential and that most needed the vgu, this one we had to vote in the one that had the lesser chance of riot screwing up.
The other day I saw a comment about a Kog passive that works like Kayn's (Do you want to evolve into a Autoatacker or do you want to evolve into an artillery mage)
@@ancientpiguardian7462 I mean eh. they both suffer from the same fate as current kog. your meant to be REALLY far back so a kamikaze ult is just a very bad idea for someone who is supposed to stay the fuck back
@@ikercasillas7780 If i remember correctly, their reason is that ziggs' death animation was already him exploding. Wouldn't need to change much i guess
Most definitely Skarner and Shyvanna. Nocturnes gameplay is boring pre 6 but he has a purpose and sees semi-regular play. Kog'maw needs more a visual update since his model is OLD his gameplay has a specific niche and they could give him a minirework for his "passive" like they did to Zyra a long time ago. Who the f suggested Tryndamere? Hello? Cho and Zil are a thing...
Nah, Zilean is fine, I mean his passive is not very good, but it can give himself and your carry 6 lvl like a wave faster than enemy, so that nice. Cho, yea he does not have mobility, any pure defensive abilty, and and unlike all other tanks his ult is not very impactful in teamfight. But I do not know how to make him better without changing his ult, I mean he is suppose to be that big monster that can kill you in one bite IF he comes to you, and giving him any sort of dash or blink would making him unfair to play against. And his basic abilitys are pretty good only if they are combine. His E make enemy unable to dash do it is easier to hit Q, and E deals very much max health DMG so he can kill someone with his R. It is pretty solid.
@@krzysztofcwik3793 Zilean and Cho have beta models Zileans gameplay is fine like you said but holy moly he is in desperate need of some visual love. With Chogath it feels like you are lagging constantly because he has like a 2 frame animation cycle on everything. All of his abilities have a really unintuitive delay to them wich just makes him feel ultra clunky. If someone deserves an gameplay update its definitely Cho.
@@Stachelbeeerchen You know, reworks are not made just to make champion look and feel better, thier main funcion is to fix something that is unhealth to the game or is broken in the execucion of concept. You know like old yoric only funcion was to throwing minions at you or old poppy she could come to you press R, ignor the whole world exept you and eventualy kill you or even Aatrox that was deleted, cause riot realise that his entire kit was a garbage. Those were reworks, and you are asking to change thier animation. That was voting for a rework, not visual updated, nah that one already taken by Ahri, a chap that boob have more poligons than gragas entire body. And back to Cho, his abilities have a cast animation that has to play before the abillity start, and even if the animation will be cancel the abillity will still fire in the same time as usual (but still the fact that they can be cancel should be removed, the enemy should have chance to see them coming). So if you have good knowlege od him you can still use your abilities normaly. It just make you need to think ahead of enemy and gives room for him to doge it or escape from Cho. And as I told you before Cho is all about being big danger that can be doged by just walking away. It is just like play of reversed pac man, when you had to corner an enemy by your prediction or by a mistake of you enemy.
Skarner needs a rework for sure but what they're describing is awful. If anyone votes for him they're voting to remove skarner from the game forever, just like aatrox sion mord poppy etc
@@miljan775 nah they basically put them in order, if you look at all of the previous polls shyvana came in second the last two times(she came in first in china voting poll by a lanslide) she is the next to go up for one tbh, Im surprised the league simps dont want a cool dragon bıtch in the game
@@GreyGrim I don't I would rather have a monster character that looks cool and actually fits his story Shyvana couldn't care even if she was my first champ I would rather have Nocturne be the rework than Shyvana because if you ever play Nocturne it gets extremely boring being the support after laning phase and only being useful because you have your ult.
Skarner really is just his ult and a crystal scorpion there's nothing else to explain abt him, and even his kit is barely usable beside his ult .Idk none of others have gameplay problems beside visuals.
exactly my point. people play skarner for ult and E, that' all he has. passive: useless. q and w: could be improved cause now they are just aoe auto and shield with ms. the lore is being raped by riot's marketing team and I can confidently say his splashart is the worst in the game, let alone the model
notcturne is literally just his ult. nothing about him gameplay wise says nightmare assassin shadow that can kill you in your dreams. he literally autoattacks you to death and cheese with his stats
Good ol Shyvanna since I play her anyway however she could feel more impactful both visually and gameplay wise which is what I hope for in her VGU. Kinda how Senna’s Autos feel so impactful with each shot or how meaty Pantheons Q’s are. With Shyva it’s kinda like gliding most of the time unless you use her Dragon Fire ball ya know?
This is how new warwick feels to me. For some reason his auto's feel incredibly floaty, and basically constantly changing speed and consistency makes them feel super weird.
@@Crazygamergal Shyvana needs a ASU, but she also need a better basic kit because in theory is a AD bruisers but her E do A LOT of base dame (600 DMG base + 100% AP on dragon form, max skill lvl). Other reason because she needs a better kit is because she is farming JG and Diana (midlander that can be used in JG) clean more efficiently for not say that Diana has a more consistent game.
Yeah same, we're good ol biased mfs, I do play her from time to time with like 15k mastery, and she just feels so bad, not only are her animations so unsatisfying but also her gameplay is so clunky you get from doing literally NOTHING at all to oneshotting an enemy in the span of the same minute
I actually wanna ask, would you be sad if most of the kit got changed? I think besides E and R he needs a lot of work, Q and E seem like abilitys that dont really do much and his passive is (in my opinion) one of the worst in the game, but i wanna hear what a main thinks about it.
Honestly, Skarner's identity is just his ult and that he's a scorpion. So them reworking everything other than his ult is fine? They can't change the fact that he will always be a scorpion because riot wanted to make every champion unique.
@@kynguyen5030 They also explicitly state they'd change his lore which is actually already great, just not expanded upon. The reason is obviously the Seraphine incident. But I agree on the gameplay part. He is neither strong or particularly interesting to play besides grabbing someone for the ride of their life from time to time. I'd be fine with a complete overhaul of his basic abilities especially of that almost useless passive.
Skarner deserves it. He is only viable because of his ult and RARELY his E. Useless otherwise. I also have a cosmic sting skin and I want him to get better cause the skin is poggisimus
Skarner deserves a genuine rework. Not what they are planning for him. They just want to delete his kit, and are salivating about the chance to retcon him so that Seraphine can be their perfect little angel. Fuck that.
@@RebelPhoenix117 Maybe thats just what we could use, a seraphine retcon, its better then seeing that demon ruining skarner . But also skarner rlly needs an vgu, he is the least played champion and im curious what they will make him look like. He wont just change seraphines lore but also that from other piltover/zaun champions.
@@haveaniceday7080 Oh absolutely. If the blurb about a Skarner rework said they'd rework the Seraphine lore to preserve what's interesting about the Brackern vs Piltover storyline I'd be much more welcome to it. I just know that they won't do that, they'll double down on their new pop star skin whore.
@@RebelPhoenix117 Ye, rito thinks we are thinking we will choose the ones who we think need it. We are actually analysing which champ wont get the highest fail chance, and all the champions we can choose from have a high chance (except nocturne, but im sure he wont win the poll)
Yeah, I’m going to be honest, just changing everything but his r is a good idea imo. Nobody plays skarner for the cool interactions between his q w or e and certainly not his passive. People play him because of his funny zoom and pull move. By changing him to give him a more interesting way to get on his target while still being able to run away at Mach 10, I think it would be a great rework
Starting playing Skarner lately and OMG, it's not that he's just underwhelming, he doesn't do anything if he's outside one of the crystals Full AD is fun, but worst than anyone else, and Tank is just run and grab people, have enough MS to drag them under tower and let your teammates kill him for you So yeah, I think Skarner needs something to be anything but miserable
@@CoqueiroLendario and yet new Aatrox is infinitely better than old Aatrox. Stop using that as an excuse, the VGUs aim to make a champion better to keep up with the newer champs first and foremost.
@@DerpEpicFace32onXbox No, divertrox was the best version of aatrox made, they had fixed his problems as a simple statstick and gave him ways to outplay and be outplayed, and then they decided to just throw the entire champion away to put ssomething new in the game. You don't understand that old aatrox is gone forever, in the same way old morde is also gone.
@@CoqueiroLendario Old Aatrox was still dogshit, just like old Morde was. Power Creep is real and old champions aren't as good as your nostalgia makes them to be. New Morde and Aatrox are 1000x better than their counter parts
I can't decide: the irony is that last year I voted for Nocturne because he's just ridiculous compared to the other demons, but now I think that Skarner needs help way more than anyone else in the poll
The most fun I ever had with Kog'Maw was when he was able to get his attack speed to 5 attacks per second. I wanted to see that again, so I voted for Kog'Maw. Now I can only hope I didn't make the wrong decision...
I voted for Skarner, but only because I think that "getting rid of the old" isn't necessarily a bad thing. If the previous version is utterly uninspired, then doing *anything* interesting to them will "delete their old selves." I know that it will piss off some people who played that old character (see Aatrox mains still begging for a revert), but it's ultimately for the greater good, both for LoL as a game and Runeterra as an IP. Although... When you brought up the idea of making Nocturne the ghost of Shen and Zed's old master... Damn that'd be so fucking cool...
Then just leave them uninspired and rework something else or add a new champion. How is deleting them for the greater good if their existence doesn’t affect you and some people like playing them?
geting rid of the old isnt normally a bad thing, except when that means that all champs end up similar and with no specially weird ones (like how riot has been deleting all mix ap-ad builds since s7 or so) ending up in a meh + they obviulsy will fuck skarner lore
@@PleaseNoPokes Galio, Swain, Yorick, Sion, Karma, Urgot, Taric, and more. These champions were straight up deleted, even if a new one was added with their name - which is ironically what you call not solving the problem. It's a good thing that 99% of people who actually play League don't give a shit about the lore, so that your dragging comment doesn't hold any weight - because you know what drags GAMEPLAY down more than uninteresting characters people scroll past in the roster? Fucking broken season 10 champs who are completely unfun to play against.
Now I love Skarner as much as the next person, but I can literally count on one hand the number of times I've seen him in-game last year.... and with all the focus on arcane and hextech, as well as the inclusion of the clusterf*ck that was Seraphine, I don't think a complete rework of his lore would be so bad. Imo a Skarner rework could be similar to Fiddlesticks...like sure we think fondly of the old version, but most agree that the new one is superior.
The difference is that Fiddle was actually good before the rework, he just needed a bit of modernization for his kit and theme, like Volibear and Warwick. Skarner would need more than that in my opinion.
I’ll be honest, The only reason that I looked into League of Legends is because I watched Arcane, and while I don’t plan on playing it anytime soon the characters and lore for this game has gotten me hooked. I love reading and watching stuff dissecting a characters themes and design. I’ve barely scratched the surface and yet I can already tell there’s so much here. A large part of that is thanks to you, so please keep it up!
and as an outsider who hasn't experienced the gameplay, you want the hot dragon girl to get the attention, right? RIGHT? As an outside observer I think I'd want the living nightmare man to get spotlight tho, to be fair. (I voted for skarner)
@@DRB30240 I am in the same boat as you, just loving the lore etc but i originally came from legends of runeterra. If you like card games give it a try, best i have ever played and so free to play friendly it feels criminal
bruh skarner really need this rework, im just sad for him , i know that riot will change a lot of stuff about him , but i think that a change is better than let him alone in the champ selection for the eternity
voted for shyv in the hopes to see something like illaoi emerge, an imposing humanoid figure that would make the demacian fear understandable and a truly powerfull dragon form.... but i doubt that will end up being the exact outcome if shes the winner
I know right! Why does she look so frail when the elemental dragons ( which are female and she is meant to be one) are these big powerful and strong creatures. Not to mention her passive is just rage meter and 5 bonus stats for killing her kind because lore?
Shyvana was my first main so it wasn't a question for me at least, nothing against the other champs (expect trydemere) but I like playing her and her thematic however I do believe that the other champs (expect trydemere) really need a rework, if anything I think Riot should be focusing on making 1 - 2 new champs a year and putting the rest of their resources VGU's In stead of... 7 new possible champions this year
the thing is vgus dont give money and they just make the game better, while they could take the mechanics of an older champ, rework them, and sell a new champ more handsome with those skills but better, cause we all now, we play the champs because of the mechanics, not because of the mechanics+ personallity, aint that right zeri, seraphin, yuumi, akshan?
@@Grimm-A nah, the reworks do give money,a better character model and thematic WILL sell more skins(and typically when they rework a champion it gets a RP skin bundle when its released) also as they said they arent making a LoL2 so they are revamping the game slowly but surely they should focus on not so many new champions even though they have significantly slowed down from previous years and focus fully on updating older champions(even though they have different teams that can achomplish this both at once)
I'm at a point that I wouldn't dislike if they did a "Galio Rework" on Skarner. I voted for him not because I think he deserves it, but because I genuinely dislike the bland "Crystal Scorpion" idea, I want riot to go all in on creativity and lean in on the hextech shenanigans and maybe sprinkle a bit of void corruption in there (plus they're keeping the only fun part about his kit so it's a win win for me)
galio rework sucked, i was old galio main, and they simply removed a champion and put a new one in his place, i dont think its a good rework. Fiddel is a good rework cause they made an old champion better and kept his basics, but tell me one thing about galio that even remotely resembeles old galio? Cause there is literally nothing...
@@cannedcan9788 i remember that, good Times, sadly it got nerfed at some point. Edit: but took them a while (2 years), cause almost nobody tried galio in urf.
Okay I'm gonna make myself really unpopular rn especially with Nicky but still just wanna say it. As much as I get the ap kog fanbase, I really wanna see him as a good adc. I personally fell so in love with this tank shredding puppy but most of his abilities feel so awkward on ad. I don't need to talk about his passive I think most can agree that it's almost useless. His Q is somewhat nice for shred and passive attack speed but feels bad when you need to stop aa to Q. W obviously very good on ad kog no need to talk about that. His E ist probably the most underwhelming for ad, for ap it's a nice reliable damage tool but for ad it's just a very weak slow so very awkward as well. His Ult is interesting while it's pretty good when as soon as you get it at 6 and a few levels above as a finishing tool when they get out of your aa range but it falls off very hard when it's not enough damage anymore to finish and harder to land when everyone is faster through tier 2 boots or other items. Now when it comes to the voidy visuals they want to give them, I would love to see Necrits idea that he is very very cute voidling but turns into a horrormachine as soon as he activates his W or something like that because that sounds amazing. So yeah while most people are upset about potentially loosing ap Kog I would really would like Riot to focus more on his ad side and maybe release a new artillery champ as compensation. So yeah if someone read all of this thanks and feel free to critisize but obviously keep it civil.
i'd have to argue with the point about galio rework being a replacement champion. The only thing people remember/liked about old galio was the AOE taunt, the tornados (that i think used to give a speed buff) and a sheild that negated magic damage and healed him. The kept the aoe taunt (i felt like it was improved honestly) the tornadoes are there, just no speed boost and i'll admit the sheild is VERY different. But the essence of gameplay was still there. Anti magic AP bruiser is still the style. Sion...i never played the old one. When i started everyone told me to just ignore him since they were gonna rework him. That was like 3 years and i NEVER saw him get picked once. Like the sion rework release i thought was a new champion because of how little i saw him. Urgot is also very similar. landing an abiliy let's you spam another one (old) -> landing an ability lets you pew pew the shit out of someone...sounds very similar. The ult was a pick a person in particular and say "F U", at the cost of putting yourself in danger. Now you get to say FU form a distance. and there is NOTHING they can do about it...if they are low. The only champion that was DELETED from the game. 0 aspect was kept. no lore, no play style nothing, was Aatrox. The only thing was they kept was the revive and they removed it. If you got to the end, thank you for coming to my ted talk. I used this as an excuse to waste the last like 5 minutes of my work shift. Thank you have a nice day
Every rework kept part of their original identity, so i second your comment. Also fuuck, i'm still sad that aatrox lost his resurrection mechanic. I was fine with how his new abilities worked (and his voicelines in latinamerican are so full with expression that i can feel aatrox's pain), but the resurrection was a something that made aatrox, well, aatrox. It's like if you took away kha'zix's evolving passives. Riot supposedly took it away cause he was "too strong", but then inmediatly they buffed his healing and damage. Sometimes i dont understand riot's balance team. I have the vague hope that when aatrox eventually gets in wild rift, they get to reintroduce the resurrection to the pc lol
Yeah, Thats the thing. Why are people afraid of the skarner rework? They still have to make him a scorpion regardless to preserve his identity and riot themself wanted to make every champion unique so they have to because skarner is the ONLY scorpion in the entire game.
@@kynguyen5030 people is just too negative towards rito because the ruination event was a flop. Also the fear of change ig. I've noticed some lol players are just too attached to old outdated champions due to nostalgia.
lol player screams about everything, i swear riot could add 1 bush to the map and there would be people complaining about how it would make rengar the best character in the game and make the game unplayable, i still remember people complaining about the plants and " how they were to rng" even though that didn't made any sense
I liked Necrit's concept for a kog rework where he is something adorable, but transforms into something horrific and voidy when his W or something is activated.
I ended up voting for Nocturne because none of their rework ideas appealed to me, i don't want Kogmaw to stop being at least a little bit cute, i don't want them to straight up delete Skarner from the game, i don't want an even more annoying Tryndamere and I think Shyvanna needs it the leasy
What do you mean? The low poly gon skinny women and her giant hairless chicken don’t need their models fixed? Not to mention their gameplay of become dragon ASAP then spam E… none of which fits her dragon bruiser concept at all.
@@draketurtle4169 shyvana being skinny makes so much sense if you think carefully. She was running away from her mom almost her entire life,barely able to do anything, eat or sleep or whatever until jarvan met and helped her.
@@aeroscantsee1665 … wildrift and legends of rune terra; doesn’t look skinny and actually fixes her god awful model by putting meat on her bones. The dragon still looks like a chick with no feathers sadly. Other than fire there is fuck all that she has in common visually with the fire dragons, this is bad design.
I'm voting skarner, I considered kog maw before reading what they'd do to him...so if they don't change the idea of deleting half the gameplay, I'm still going with scorpion boy
Honestly, I know I'm probably in the minority for this one, but urgot, poppy, sion, galio and aatrox are all my most favorite reworks and I wish riot would do those types of reworks to all 5 of these champs. I hold this opinion despite the fact that pre-rework urgot, mord and swain were all among my highest played champs.
I agree except on Aatrox, he got removed from his identity and made a Riven out of it, the rest at least got more defined at their core values, they play similar with improved skills, but Aatrox died and got gutted not even reasambling his ideas
@@arielmatiauda5110 Honestly, I disagree. New aatrox has more in common with the old one than urgot, galio, poppy or sion do. EDIT: Nevermind, galio still has a lot in common with old one but the rest remain true.
i mained old galio, and i hate his rework, cause they removed a chamion and put a new one in his place, nothig resembles old galio there isnt even one ability which is at least somewhat the same. you know what i like to compare it to, Seraphine / Sona, imagine sona got removed and Seraphine came out, and it would still be a better rework than Galio. Ult: AOE Stun in a stright line / AOE Charm in a straight line W: AOE Heal and Shield on allies / AOE Heal and Shield on Allies Passive (at least a part of it): Empowered autoattack / Empowered Autoattack Now do the same with galio and youll find nothing.
From what i've seen the community is very torn between which champ deserves the VGU, i wish nocturne would be the winner but it feels like Shyvanna is going to win. It looks like it's going to take us 5 years for every champion on the VGU poll to actually get one unfortunately.
I've noticed that too. There isn't one clear consensus like Udyr was. Pretty much every RU-vidr I've watched vote on the poll has voted for someone different. Necrit voted for Kog, Nicky here voted for Noc, and Skooch voted for Skarner. Alot of people assume that Tryndamere would win, but those same people are voting for Shyvana mostly. I myself voted for Tryndamere because I absolutely despise that disgusting pile of pixels, and I am confident that whatever new iteration comes about will be leagues better than what we have now, despite what they said they might do. I don't hate just his ultimate, I hate his entire kit as a whole. ANY change to it is a good change in my opinion. And at first, I thought it would be a slam dunk, that everyone else would hop on the Tryndamere hate train. But now....I'm not so sure.
@@chrischeng9145 She did actually get a mini rework fairly recently, adding in the whole stacking system to her passive, and she also got a new voice and new lore, so her model is really the only thing that haven't been updated recently. But the comment itself is a joke on Seraphine being a Sona rework. And I know I'm gonna receive a lot of hate for saying this, but I think it's better that they released the two separately, as they still have separate identities and playstyles despite a few similar abilities (Sona is a medium range hyperscaling enchanter that buffs up her team with auras, while Seraphine is a long range waveclearing poke mage with abilities that benefit from her being around teammates).
Also, on the whole redacted situation with skarner, most characters that have a voiceline with her aren't blind fanboys. Gwen says she's nothing but a pretty voice and Zeri tells her to start actually making changes, Rell just "flirts" with her cus she's a bisexual dissaster. Cait is the only recent champ to be actually a fan of her, wich is expected of a piltie. I think Riot is self aware enough to not make skarner just be okay with her (or any of the hextech users), afterall, there's a reason why a bunch of champ have lines antagonizing Teemo despite having no reason to.
Just like Rito says, I used to play Nocturne mid a lot. His ult made it really easy to roam and help bot or top if they needed it, or to pick off a pesky split pusher. I think making him Zed and Shens old master would be interesting, like a Swain who couldn't control his Demons, literally. Other than a good ol lore boost, giving him I bit more mobility other than his ult would be useful, and maybe some better lifesteal could help too. Let's help our friendly neighborhood nightmare out
I mained skarner in S11 and he do sucks, cause he doesnt have anythign to utilize his kit, if the enemy can peel even a little you are gonna have a bad time, cause everythin dashes, most of the time you cant even catch champions who are out of position because you cant get close to them. It even got to the point where i experimented with Galeforce to better close gaps, and it somehow worked if you got enough money in early to rush it and than go offtank.
FINALLY! IT’S SO GOOD TO HEAR SOMEONE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO TO SKARNER! Don’t get me wrong, he can be boring and unnecessarily complicated to play, but that isn’t enough to justify him being deleted.
frankly nobody is playing him now. so what exactly is the problem of him being deleted? idk if riot will actually get rid of his theme whole sale (the scorpion may live on) but regardless...he need SOMETHING.
@@ZainHallows because we can improve and fix skarner without removing what is lived about him, if you remove him the few people who do play him might not touch that thing that’s replacing him and if riot thinks what replaces him will magically be popular; the original player base is gone and the rework hype won’t last, he is a monster champion they make them painful to play so chances are he isn’t going to be popular unless he is done broken OP mess.
@@draketurtle4169 how do you expect them to fix/improve if you wont even give them the chance to do it?! that's the whole point of the VGU thing! my point was, even if there is fear that the Skarner we know will go away, a new hopefully better Skarner will take its place...there is nothing to lose in choosing skarner for the VGU, nobody plays him now. give riot the chance to fix him instead of worrying about how they might mess it up! because worst case, he stays unlike and unpicked :/
The problem with Trynd is not his ult, though it is problematic. I want him reworked so I don't randomly lose lane to one or two RNG pre-backport crits.
His kit is toxic, after navori he can just spam his dash every 2 autos, and he can just decrease the ad of anyone fighting him. In the early game he can just fuck anyone by ghosting and walking them down with autos that keep getting stronger because of his passive. I voted for tryndamere because I am sure riot can make him into an interesting champ like pantheon.
You've intrigued me. Normally when I hear about pre-VGU champions, I just hear about how they were much worse (besides memes, and people talking when they first joined). This in terms of gameplay, and certain in terms of graphical design. Which Champions and their concepts do you believe were erased with VGUs? I'd love to see a big video just talking about those!
I think with kog'maw they should do something similair too the purpose of Pyke or Senna. He could be the atillery mage for the adc position. So if a Mage gets the adc role they have something to play.
*sees Kog'Maw eating a crown* I will take a wild guess and say the answer is Kog'Maw edit: ok that is a more interesting choice, but that won't stop rito from reworking Kog'Maw one day... on the bright side, delaying Kog'Maw rework might give them the opportunity to think more about him, and have a better idea of who Kog should be
I would've voted for Skarner in a heartbeat, but I also didn't want the crystal motif to be deleted, so I ended up voting for Nocturne. Great minds do think alike.
I voted for Nocturne just because it’s my fave champ of the bunch and bc i want him to get a proper “shadow tail” or whatever. Like Asol has. He has the potential to be an incredible VGU. I kinda wished they put new champions on the poll that actually need to be reworked, relaunched and reborn. I can’t believe Cho’Gath is getting away with his old model still
"its my fave champ" is the reason I did not vote for kog'maw, that is one of my favorite mages to play mid, I already like him. voted for noc that is looking just sad and overshadowed by fiddle atm.
I voted Noc, I feel like he has the most potential. Sure Skarner may need it more but he has no playerbase soo there is a good chance he will fail even after the rework (just my opinion).
I'm good to see any of those win. Tryndamere may can still have his Undying mechanic but if they make it feel somewhat balanced, like he needs to keep hitting stuff to not die, that would be something I'm fine with and make his undying rage atleast plausible and gives it a clear weakness, instead of just being ok I dont die now. Shyvana is the one I voted for. I'm looking forward to finally have a good dragonform for her and not whatever stickfigure she is currently and get rid of ap shyvana for once, but I trust them with that that they turn her not boring, but keep her purple and scaled (also subjectively just pushes his community to vote shyvana) . Nocturne is the one I also would've voted for, but I just don't see why I want another scary demon, I already love fiddle. Skarner tbh I think is an interesting vote, I just hope if they change stuff, that he doesn't get thrown in the unpopular champion box that he's currently inside, they can do amazing reinterpretations of champions, I would always vote new Urgot over the old one same with Aatrox (this comment will get so much hate for this I swear). Kog'Maw .... And that concludes my comment so far, everyone of these champs shall get something to look forward.
"when they overdose on too much prometheus goop" I literally got an ad right after he said that with an African American bodybuilder dude that was promoting a workout powder
fcking vote skarner dude you are saying how corki looks like he comes frm ps2 game while skarner doesn't even come from a ps game. nintendo64 stuff right here
I promised to get back into league of legends if Nocturne wins the poll, so I had to vote for him. I bought Eternum before I stopped playing, it'd be nice to have the most expensive thing I bought in league before I quit be tied to a champion that doesn't feel outdated
I’m biased towards shyvana because she was the first champion I played and I loved her ad jungle build, which is now obsolete and all she is now is wait for dragon form and press e the champion, not the scrappy bruiser I grew to love playing top/jungle
As main Shyvana and with a little gameplay of Skarner, i decide to use a different method of chosing the next rework, I chose Skarner, not because I wanted to him to get a Rework, but because I don't want Shyvana to win this pool. I realy think that she deserves a Rewok, she is basically useless without his ult, the Q W E aren't that good during a fight as AP mage without the ult, and W E dosen't actually help AD, so she is never fighting with everything she has. She dosen't look from Demacia and need a development at Lore with the new events, Sylas and Ruination, so I would vote to her. BUT, my fear of a Akali or Irelia 2 is what scares me and prevents me from voting for her, together with her becoming part of the same face sydrome, and losing his personality with the scare face, big horns and intimidating vibes, that not so many girls in league has without the sexualized part, that's what make me start to play with her and I don't want to lose on of my favorite characters because of Shyna horny syndrome. So I chosed Skarner because he ended ine 3 place during the old pool, to give him strengh to win this time and save old Shyvana. Sorry my bad english, i used google translator to help me during this coment.
I want a dragon to play and no asol is more of a planet. I want dragon gameplay and riot will probably make a lot of skins because girl. Win - win situation but please don't give her high hills.
I've seen so many different opinions and different choices on this poll that I honestly think it'll be the closest we've ever had. I honestly think it'll be a toss up on who gets it. Except Trynd.
@@lambros6969 that logic doesn't make any sense. The reason why people hate trynd is because he's an obnoxious unfun to play against champion, that's why people are voting for him. So it doesn't matter if he ends up getting stronger if he's at least fair to play against.
@@arthuremo112 i mean they said thay are keeping his ult and combat style so its gonna be like the pantheon rework and every rework makes the champ a lot stronger so idk what you expect
i vote for Skarner because yes, maybe he can loose his passive, his Q W and E but... personally i think that is something good because the only thing that cares about Skarner is his ultimate (and i play Skarner and if i dont have my ultimate i am useless as fuck), and seeing that basically everyone says that of Kog (the thing of not sacrifice AP) i think that if he wins Riot is not going to eleminate that (but probably Shyvana is going to win because of simps)
I agree with you, everyone talks about skarner losing the rest of his kit like a big deal, but LITERALLY all the rest of his kit is worthless and/or generic
Hey nicky, quick question. Have you by any chance ever played a game in the Skylanders franchise? Because you often use music and effects from that series
I voted for shyvanna since I was scared of what they would do to skarner or kogmaw and she honestly feels the safest to vote for since her dragon aspect is lacking and they’ll focus on it that’s mainly for me though since I don’t play nocturne as much
Imo they should remove the boring point and click R from Nocturne and instead give his R a passiv part which reduces Vision Range for all enemys on the map for like 50/100/150 and a active part which gradually increases this Vision Range Reduction over a few seconds. So Nocturne would be better vs Ranged Champions by forcing em to get closer to Fights.
Just as long as it's only while he's alive - it'd feel really bad if you deal with the source of something but it keeps going, maybe even causing you to lose a fight because the ADC got gimped
I personally would love some more hybrid scaling champs like Kog'Maw to be a thing, and while Zeri seems to be coming in to join the cute little guy, I am kinda hoping for a champ that wouldn't be a mage or marksmen to fill that role. It's why I voted for Shyvana, a part of me is just hoping to see the weird old ad/tank styles I kept hearing about but missed out on since I only started playing league last season. Maybe making her a sort of nightmare that can be played as a tank, ad dragon bruiser or ap artillery dragon would sort of fill in that void I have for versatile champions. Also making her more badass *and* good looking wouldn't hurt either.
I do agree the likelyhood of skarner's rework changing some fundamental things about him is likely, I think it's worth it. I'm personally a skarner main and he's by far my most played champion. I think that while the wording does partially lead one to believe that he's essentially losing everything but the ult (thank god no spires), they did technically say they'd keep some elements of his current kit. His shield isn't super strong until late game so losing it for a better ability is fine, while I like his q a lot it'd probably be kind of hard to rework but I'd like them to keep it in some fashion, any passive (except kog'maws [rip]) is better than his current one, and his e i'd be kind of sad to see go. But all in all reworking him as long as they keep his ult is generally ok. They won't be going full aatrox on him at least so I know he'll still be a fighter with the funny pull and that's enough for me. Sorry for the rant
I don’t get this Kog Maw hate, Everyone can agree that they’re rework track at this point is stellar, especially when it comes to listening to fan criticism. The reason they give us constant updates is to take our feedback and Kog Maw just needs to be changed. I voted for my favorite Void Puppy with faith
The vid emphasises the point that people don't read what the changes will be and you still do that lmao. It's not about who you like rather what they plan to do
@@falaflani4831 i’m aware 80% of my comment was about how they have a pretty good record when it comes to listening to feedback with these reworks, hence why I think they would ultimately keep AP kog maw if the actual demand is there.
@@randomth1ngs68 Yeah, like, if people complained about Riot eliminating Kog's AP playstyle then Riot would surely hear as they have heard for the past community voted reworks, people are way too afraid.
Can't say I see your issues with Kog. They say they want to make him more Void-like, which is exactly what you said you wanted. They never said they were taking away the cute factor, they said they were making him feel more like he was from the Void. As for the playstyles, there is no guarantee that they will get rid of AP Kog. Getting rid of it is a backup if they can't make it work.
They say that "He also feels out of place among his more sinister Void brethren". Unless they do what Necrit suggested and have him be the cutest lil' guy until he presses W and becomes some horrifying creature, the only other way that their words could be interpreted is making him less cute in general. And as for AP Kog, it's the potential of losing the entire playstyle that makes it not worth the vote. Like Nicky said at the end, Nocturne is the only one that has no potential to lose anything, and only gain.
@@smoli3683 But they still mention the "protect the puppy" playstyle, and I feel like that wouldn't be the wording if they made him less of a puppy. Fair enough on the playstyle
I love playing skarner, sometimes top lane. It would just be sad if they deleted from the game, all that needs to change his w so maybe it give him a small dash and change his passive, if built correctly he can be a surprisingly good duelist. Please don't vote for him just cause no one plays him.
I am voting for him because I have tried him and he feels personally awful to use. His model imo is boring, his kit seems interesting but in actual gameplay it feels very uneventful. I am hoping they just conpletely revamp what he is like now. But they probably won't, but I think he needs this gameplay update the most.
5:14 I don't like the word "modern riot games" and generally the "it was better before " idea . Cause even if riot games have flaws it is truly wrong to say that league of legends was better before like it had no broken or unfuny to face champ (Tryndamer,teemo,nasus,shaco,katarina,vayne,yasuo ... and every champ on release ) . And if riot games were not riot games we could not have Arcane, Valorant,Legend of runeterra, ... .
If they do decide on Tryndamere, I want him to have a Guts-like appearance, from Berserk. The big, heavy sword coupled with the "I'M TOO ANGRY TO DIE" idea fits perfectly.
I voted Shyvana because I have hope for the potential she has and that her game play will allow both halves of her to shine. Both the terrifying dragon, and the proud human of Demacia.
I went with Shiv, just because I think her dragon form looks like trash and I want her to be closer to Alexdraza or Deathwing in Heroes of The Storm. Kogmaw and Skarner would be deleted, I don't really care about nocturne, and Tryndamere is bullshit I don't want him to get stronger.
Honestly getting Shyvana to play like Deathwing, where you choose your form each time you leave base, would be *so fucking awesome* . Human for a more Duelist or Mage play style, Dragon for Tank or AP Bruiser.
Just wanna point out that the entire shyvana main community me included fell in love with shyvanas ad playstyle and were forced into ap through them completely making the ad version of the champ shit We want ad shyvana back and this is a way to it
