Yup 55 years ago my wife and I winter camped on a mountain top in Arizona and learned it was a lot different than camping in the desert:-) I wish “real” hot or winter camping tents has a 16 inch “skirt” just above the tent stake holes so once the tent was up you could pull down the “skirt” and cover with snow, pieces of wood or dirt.. that would make a tent more air tight. If you want “air” you can leave the door opening up a bit. Good l😢uck
HINT my wife and I learned 55 years ago when camping in the Arizona desert with very hard clay rocky soil… we tried the plastic tent stakes and when those didn’t work we tried the metal tent stakes… both just squashed and bent as we pounded them into the hard ground.. we went to a building supply store and bought 12 inch pole barn nails which worked great. We used them for years.. cheap, tough and you can buy them up online to 16 inches long. Good luck
@@alallington5732 exactly like me. For "normal" hiking backpack camp, i bring of course the alu ones, but when with a motorised transport, i bring, like you, 25cm steel spikes. They can enter even in the ground where the huge campers are parked, but damn, all of them are insanely heavy for a backpack.
You’re not the only RU-vidr to bring up the problem of US companies being priced out by Chinese companies in the budget gear category. Hopefully companies in the US will listen to everyone and keep in mind that not everyone can or wants to throw down $500+ on a tent and $300+ on a stove. And even some of us who can afford it don’t get out enough for it to be worth spending that sort of money.
I am all for capitalism! Stop the tariffs and let all foreign countries sell their stuff here.. Competition makes US companies work harder and smarter to compete.. many foreign made products are well made, innovative and much cheaper than the stuff made in USA.. Let freedom reign and let capitalism work freely
$20 minimum wage to work at McDonalds and a population of wimps, combined with millions of people who are not from the USA on welfare. America will be a third worl country and al, you commenting will get to find out what tent life is like.
Couple of tips; Don't completely cut a hole in the chimney panel but instead make an 8 slice pizza cut in it so that you can fit the chimney pipe snugly and then cut to the angle. Try to angle the stove and the inner mesh closer when you are setting up so that you can reach from inside to feed the stove if you need to, later in the night. As you are clearing your tent area, pile the snow in a wall around the tent on the windward side so that the tent edges are in a a depression, helps with the wind. When setting up the stove, try adding only a single chimney pipe and making a small fire. allows you to warm one edge of the other pipes and makes putting things together a bit more easier. A couple of sacrificial oven/heat mitts around the lower parts of the stove pipes provide a surprisingly good quality of live improvement.
I’ve had one standing for 6 months last year and close that this year and it’s held up very well in numerous high wind storms as well as one good ice storm. The ice once melted and refrozen did cut into the door when I opened it without removing it. It made a small tear but I was able to patch it with gorilla tape had the dog tear it down once ripping a tie ooff down about 6 inches but was able to stitch it up and patch over and seal with gorilla tape. These type tents have plenty of room and hold up very well!
If I'm not mistaken, you're not supposed to have all that space left around the outside on the bottom, it should be touching the ground. Black is the best color for winter time, because black draws heat and that's what you want to keep the tent warmer in the winter.
Nice to see someone do a review on some budget options, rather than the expensive stuff every time. I took your point about the spark arrester not being fully up to the job. Any idea what dimension the stove pipe is where it fits the arrester? Wondering if you could get a top with a finer gauze etc? thanks for the review.
1. You bought a HOT tent hence the reflective surface. you wouldnt use it in the summer. 2. the mesh around the sleep area still stops pessts and ground insects from finding warmth in your sleeping bag. use it! 3. for those asking about the gap in the bottom, the fire consumes oxygen and the gas and heat draw it out from the top. the reflective surface radiates warmth while the venting draws fresh air from the bottom so you do not suffocate. if they were higher than ground level that cold air would draw in and drop down on you causing you to bbe colder
I doubt it very much that America will sell anything cheap like that Teepee tent because I think material and parts are expensive but one never knows what can happen in the future . Thank you for sharing this video and the information .
Ya, I think that is a big part of the problem. Even if we make the stuff in the US, the materials often come from abroad anyway so the cost to get them here goes up.
I basically bought that stove, but I have a One Tigress tent (ironwall I think). Very cheap stove, it warps a bit, but it works and I love having a stove in the late autumn.
I like that tent and stove. I bought a 4 to 6 person tent from Walmart for 160 and a small stove for $92. I had to get a big tent for my friend, my son, my dog and I. I don't buy from Amazon because they stole my $100. Said my gift card I purchased from Lowe's was not mine and they took it and said I am committing fraud. Big R did almost the same thing. After I purchased the card they say it's no longer creditable because they were changing owners. You got to watch out for these crooked scams they do. That's how the rich gets richer.. I totally stopped shopping with gift cards. Two bites was all I needed to learn that lesson.
Ya I saw that somewhere. Just not sure if I believe it. Seems like the reflective side should be facing outward in that case. But I might have to try it out in summer just to know.
I bought that same stove. I haven't used it yet, but will be in a couple weeks and I can't wait. I agree the pipes suck. 2 of mine got bound together and won't come apart no matter what I do.
use a propane torch and torch the eff out of the joint;it`ll burn the crap and wont break anything (use judgement!) its how I clean my stainless hardware (heat untill it stops smoking)
I have just bought that stove through ebay , it's not for hot tenting though so glad about that as it is a pain taking it down & the chimney pipes are the most awkward to put away ( that's why i haven't put them all inslde each other , only done 3 of them ) but i love the stove so found a bigger bag to keep it all together & carry it .
@@outdoorempirecom As someone who has used a Pomoly hot tent in the summer, with the right ventilation, you can control the temperature pretty well. You just gotta have that good circulation.
One way to get around the stove placement is to get the metal flex pipe it ticks it over a lil bit but see I got the 5m tent so I’ve got no issues with space I have the tent plus stove plus table 2 chairs 2 50L cold boxes (esky) and a swag inside for sleeping in it’s great more glamping then camping haha but 5-10minute set up easy as
And also a lil hack around the stove start with wood through the day but wen going to bed throw in some fire logs or heat beads (bbq/smoker logs you get from the hardware store)some burn for 6-8hours and put out a lot of heat
Well I definitely appreciate about how difficult it can be when it's cold to tighten clamps or something. I'm real comfortable if I've got a fire going and can warm up hands and even tools I'm working with. Definitely hurts to work bare handed in way below freezing.
I've complained about the pricing to get into hot tenting, so I think this is a great entry point. I may actually buy one. I haven't bothered to date because I didn't think it was worth the price to use once or twice a year. You earned a new sub
Did you think about throwing snow on the bottom edge of the tent or did it not work because it doesn’t have the flaps of extra material between the stakes??? Have fun be safe.
I wanna get into this, but one thing I can’t figure out is why most of these tents are completely sealed at the bottom yet are called hot tents? I can’t imagine that those little stoves are keeping you warm when the stove is in the inlet of the tent where as your sleeping area is in a pad surrounded by mesh? Are there any hot tents that are completely sealed?
Not a bad review, it’s was pretty informative I probably won’t be getting that tent or stove even though I am interested in a hot tent and a small easily portable stove. I don’t do solo camping, at least not yet so would need a larger tent no matter what the season. Probably no larger than a 4 person tent because I like room to move around, I am slightly claustrophobic so a small tent like that will be no good for me. Here is an idea for another review for you to think about, how about checking out those sleds that I see winter campers/hikers/hunters sometimes use to haul their gear with them… They just pull it along behind them as they go….
The hole, which is at an angle, needs to be elliptical to give you ½" - 1" clearance the whole distance around the pipe. The fabric shouldn't touch the chimney, which is +250° hot. That's a user error, and not the tent's fault!
@theoutdoorempire lol Same here and glad to help. My house wood stove chimney was a long, painful learning curve. I had to switch my saw halfway through when I started to smell burning shingles!!
I camp in the forest exclusively so sunshine turning it into a sauna doesnt bother me; The inner is what let this thing down so i bought an inner from 3F UL gear (for the tribe tipi tent, aliexpress, actually fits) that transforms the whole deal but nospace for a stove, thus a summer proposition. Stock small inner for stove kit. Oh, I also added a Mceto bathtub footprint. Sure it adds up but nothing is lost, I still have a good footprint and inner besides the initial proposition. I tend to leave my tents and hammocks where they stand all summer long and just trek to whichever I feel like. Its really isolated out here...one day I wont be getting back home....lol
@@outdoorempirecom Its fun; the spots where I feel its best not to leave a tent raised I just put it back in its sleeve and tie it to a tree; it doesnt bother me to rebuild the tent as I`m a young retired dude and building the tent is part of the fun, almost like a ritual. Leaving the heavy pieces in situ means that much that you dont have to carry the next time! Just the sleeping bag and other whatnots (which can be heavy because I like my tech) I might leave cookwares pillows and anything that will not gather moisture/rot/mold
Thanks for the comment. Actually, even my nicer stoves nest this way by design (upper pipe sits inside lower pipe). The reason being that it keeps creosote from leaking down and out through the cracks and running down the outside of the pipe making a mess and a fire hazard. Smoke escaping through those fittings hasn't been a problem I've experienced.
The tent is okay. I might like one that was a little bigger. The black exterior is designed to absorb heat from the sun. As far as the stove, I like the stove but not the stack. I would replace the stack with a roll and ring type.
Im using one of these cheap tipi tents, cool and all but i am seriously considering pulling the trigger on a nortent lavvo 6 . Woke up to frogs ,squeals and monkeys in the tent just last week.
Nice video bud! Good content and assessment. I have a hot tent but I didnt pay 160 -thats a steal. Youre location looks familiar to me so maybe we will see each other around. Keep it up!
I wouldn't. I would like to spend a little more on quality, that sweet spot where quality and budget meet. I just don't want to feel like I'm being scammed if I end up either paying too little or too much lol.
@@outdoorempirecomI think for a budget hot tent, that the Pomoly Leo 2 checks most of the boxes for me and looks like the most versatile all season tent. Polomy sent me a nice tent stove for free to review, maybe they could send you out the Leo? 🤔 If there is any winter camping left for you. I haven't found a review on this tent. *Or wait, it looks like lonewolf uses this tent
I think that you'll find that you're wrong about the silver coating making the tent hot in the summer. I say that for two reasons. I have tarps, beach umbrellas, patio table umbrellas, and EZ Up style 4 legged canopy shelters that DON'T have that reflective coating and they are much hotter in the sun than their coated counterparts. If an umbrella, for instance, isn't opaque, then you will feel the rays of the sun penetrating it and heating your body. The other reason it will be cooler is because it isn't really important that the silver be on the outer side if the fabric in order for it to reflect the suns rays away. It's just physics. I am curious about whether or not you could turn the tent inside out if you wanted to test that theory. Can you?
Excellent advice, thank you. Enough folks have suggested I'm wrong that I'll have to give it a go this summer. I thought about turning it inside out too. While it's not designed to do so, it could be done. You just wouldn't want to do it if raining because it would expose the vents up top, but that could be an interesting experiment too. Thanks for watching!
In my experience, no. I think the box is just too small to be able to hold enough wood, even hardwood, to burn low and slow all night. A few hours max.
Man I would have put some spruce bows under you you want as much separation from the ground as possible. Also pack that snow around the tent. Will help tremendously with the draft and keep some of the heat in
Indeed, you are correct. I just didn't bother since it wasn't a very cold night. Got down to maybe 20 deg F is all. And was so hot in there with the stove going the breeze felt sorta good. 😂
Video came out today Feb 8 2024, I'm the 13th viewer - Amazon price on tent is already $99? I guess the prices fluctuate more than I thought. Stove is dirt cheap at $88.
I placed the order less than a month ago on Jan 12, 2024. So ya, prices do fluctuate a lot. I also noticed they have a couple more colors now. I think there are some other options without the inner for $80-90.
The stove seems nice, I personally don't mind the screws vs just having a latch. I can get bigger screws with wings if need be. I'm interested to see if it deforms over time from the heat
Honestly, winter camping is not for me. I can enjoy a nice day hike in the woods in winter, but the effort it takes just to stay reasonably warm in tight quarters does not look like fun. The only way I'd consider winter camping is to be able to take a canvas tent out with a pulk sled or ATV. A roomy 9x8 canvas tent and a hot stove is the only way to winter camp. You should consider making such a video and give us the glamping side of winter camping.
Fair enough! I've got one or two videos like that from last year, but I wouldn't mind doing it again this winter before the snow melts. I'll probably give it a go here soon.
They come up with the bizarre names after amazon changes their policy to fight counterfits and required an actual trademark to sell. The counterfit companies then just started picking the weirdest random trademark names because it was much faster for the US patent and trademark office to verify a weird random name than one that may have 1000s of similar names. They actually almost broke the office for trademarks😂 in 1 year they quadrupled the # of applications JUST from amazon sellers than the office would get yearly for the ENTIRE country and all businesses. It was amazons shady way of passing the problem off to someone else- in this case making the government pay and solve it while also making tons of money off counterfeit items. Amazon doesnt care whatsoever what it is or rips off as long as they dont have to worry about it. Theres a great video on it
Wow! This is fascinating. I'm gonna go down this rabbit hole and learn more. It goes right in line with a video I've been wanting to make, but I've got more research to do. Thanks for sharing!
This is for city kids to put up in their living rooms and pretend to camp. How can you not have a waterproof floor? Animals, insects, rain, wind. Not to mention, that thing will blow away taking the pipe down on you. Maybe a chair, but not sleeping on the ground. At least an army cot. Unless you like spiders drinking out of your eyes and mice nipping at you. Aw who am I kidden, I'm probably just jealous. I wanna dress up like a ginger teddy bear. rowr!
Ya that's what I did with the stove after this trip. But the pipe I dismantled because it is long and cumbersome to transport otherwise. Plus those clamps are so janky that it would just rattle apart if you don't take it apart yourself.
Daggum! Well you're not missing out at all on that stove (I wouldn't buy it again) and there are plenty of similar alternatives to that tent. Good luck.
Oh geez! Wonder if this video contributed to that. No worries, I wouldn't buy that stove again so you're not missing out. It was tolerable because it was cheap but that flue pipe really drives me nuts the more I think about it.
Not seeing the hype about the poorly constructed children's backyard toy tent. So many minor details missing on it, that are present on other budget tents. It stands about as much of a chance to get hot in the summer with all those gaps, as it does remotely getting warm in the winter. Lose the stove and use hot rocks, as the stove would not survive very longs
I use a tipi tarp for summer camping and the ability to set a gap a bottom is awsome. It helps to draw cooler air in the bottom as hot air is pulled out the top vent. It is possible to pull the bottom to the ground with a little practice when necessary.
Indeed it has. Once at home to "burn it in" or burn off any chemicals that may have been left from the factory. It's best to do that outside your tent so you don't put any nasty fumes in your tent. I think I mentioned that in the video. This was the first time I actually used it camping though. Cheers.
I dont think id get a tee pee tent. Its just too small. Id be afraid to go to sleep and my fat arse would bump into it or tge pole. Id be in flames rolling around to get out. Death trap.
@@MrHyde2k No, I just mean that I like it when a tent can be used all year round. If it only works in winter or is only good for summer, that's not as versatile as a tent that can do the hot tent thing in winter, but still be nice to use in summer. This tent does have that inner screen mesh part that would be great for summer to keep bugs off and has a ground cover too. That's what I meant by liner, not the silver coating.
@@outdoorempirecom Oh i get that, just thought you were just looking for a cheap hot tent (and stove) for winter camping. But that would be great for another video maybe?
What do you mean? I appreciate you watching, but I have nothing to lie about here. If you're referring to the snow on the ground, I'm in Idaho and that's just how it is in winter. By the end of the trip there was a small exposed dirt patch right under the stove, but most of the ground inside still had snow. Heat rises, and the ground takes a long time to heat up for all the snow to melt. This is normal in a hot tent, at least in my experience. Cheers.
@@grayrecluse7496 Still not sure what you're referring to, but no biggie. Either way, I encourage you to get out and try camping in a hot tent in the snow yourself. You can see how it all works firsthand and you'll have a great time. Cheers!
