I bought a similar adapter, and I already gave up on running it until I saw your video. I set the jumper to MASTER and it works perfectly Thank you so much Mark.
@@lizavetaruzova On the back it's on the interface itself. A plastic little piece. A diagram on the hard drive will show you the position to place the jumper to have it as master or slave, etc.
I have a similar problem. I have an old 3.5 IDE HDD but when i put the jumper to MASTER, it start the operating system from the old IDE HDD ignoring the SATA HDD where the operating system is installed. If i set the IDE HDD on slave, the pc doesn't find in any way the IDE HDD not even in the BIOS. I tried to set BIOS to not boot the operating system from the IDE HDD when is set to MASTER but the HDD ignore this command. How i can resolve this problem?
Set it to MASTER... awesome!! I already have one of my old IDE drive hooked up and I'm going through the data pulling old stuff off. My other four IDE drives are about 12 years since I've accessed them. You da man!!
One important thing is obviously lacking in the video: Show how it can be connected either to an IDE or, the opposite, to a SATA drive. Which SATA connector to connect on both situations. Another detail is how to power either the device or the disks. When I bought it, I thought the two SATA connectors where power and data, then you could power up an IDE drive from the convertor. I was completely wrong. You need to power the disk from another source and the SATA connectors are both data. It could be a simple and elegant implementation but it is what it is. Thanks for the video anyway !
It's pretty ingenious that these work both ways. Also you got lucky with the accessories included, I bought similar one in the past and don't remember getting the Molex to Floppy adapter. As for solder quality, they have an actual person hand-soldering these $2 widgets (probably less than $1 with shipping subtracted), can you really be surprised they don't do a stellar job on each.
This video reminds me of the annoyance that was Western Digital drives back in the day. For whatever reason, every IDE WD drive I had would fail in a very specific way. The Master/Slave/Cable Select jumper would be set, and then after a certain amount of time (weeks/months/years) the jumper that it was on would stop working. If it was a master, I'd have to put it on cable select, and make sure it was in the right spot on the ribbon, or if it was on cable select I'd have to make it master or slave. It was the weirdest thing, and it only happened with Western Digital drives.
I have just spent half a day struggling to get an IDE optical drive recognized by my SATA mainboard then found your vid. Checked jumper setting which was already on Master. Hmmmm....Seeing another comment here I changed to Cable Select and BINGO!! Drive recognized. Thanks.
my primary drive where windows is installed is an IDE HDD . I'm trying to plug a secondary IDE HDD to my motherboard's sata connector using this adapter . I do this cause my mobo has one Ide only(already occupied) and two sata connectors . I plugged the adaptar at the rear of the hdd , plugged the power cable , plugged hdd power cable too , then plugged the sata cable from the adapter to motherboard sata connector . the adapter's led is on , but windows can't detect the secondary HDD , any idea ?
Little over five years ago I worked at a Microcenter. We sold those things. Don't recall the brand on the box off hand. Never sold that many, but once in a while someone came looking for one.
2020 it now sells for $7-10 and you dont get the cable! you should say were you got one! their are 6000 to chose from. they do have $2-3 but they have capacitors that will die! if you think your is bad you should see how they have degraded to! your is one of the best!
Wow, your adapter came in quite the horrible condition; got the same board, but with a led indicator included and pretty good soldering job. Been using it for two years now for an optical dvd drive, and luckly no issues with it at all :3
Thankyou! I was about to chuck mine in the bin as it "obviously wasn't working" (I'd already set the drive to master) but after watching, just thought I'd try "Master with Slave" and Bingo. Cheers
Thanks for the review/overview and tip about setting drive jumpers to Master. I have seen these on eBay & Amazon and was wondering how well these things work.
When I first started taking computers apart an putting them back together a lot of them still had IDE cables, and I can't remember once I got cable select to work… Always had to designate as Master & Slave.
I've had CS working in dozens of systems, but all drives had to be relatively recent, and the cables couldn't come out of the crap bin. The mainboard supplied 80-wire cables are fine.
Jannik M. Meissner I guess you never had the pleasure of working on 286s or 25mhz Compaq's. I once had a Compaq with a 25mhz cpu that I put a 33mhz in but it fried and actually went up in smoke. Lol
Late answer but anyway. Short version your cable needed to be Cable Select compatible most wasen´t: unixwiz.net/techtips/ide-cable-select.html I learnt this myself about the time sata was introduced to the PC (struggeld for years).
Hi Mark, hope you're traveling well. I have this board now and want to use it to attach an SATA drive to an ancient EPIA 5000 mini-itx as the main system drive. I'm going to attempt to install & run LMDE/32bit. Any tips or tricks? Just doing this because I have the system I built into a silverware box in the early 2000's (XP/Beatrix Linux) & would love to resurrect it again for S&G's. xx
Watched this video 3 times over a period of 4 months cause i kept postponing connecting an ide hdd and forgot which jumper selection i should put it in lol.
I wonder what kind of profit margin they get from selling those devices. These devices have been around for years, and the designs change every few months, thus someone out there is still making these, and the prices just keep getting lower.
Would been more interesting to see if you could get a new SATA optical drive to work on an IDE/ATA motherboard, i could not. Maybe my opticalSATA DVD/RW have some features not supported. I probably should test another one, that newer HDD can not be supported i do understand because their configuration simply not supported in BIOS. I saw one guy make it work, but then his motherboard was both IDE and SATA, so it was a no brainer bios supported it.
** actually it works. Just had to do what you said and switch the jumper to master, voila works fine ** thank you!!!! Ya know the only question I have, which maybe you can help me out. I have the SATA connected from the (middle SATA) to the computer, I have the molex attached from the computer power supply (full 4 pin with 4 wires) to the molex of the hard drive, I have the ide connect to the hard drive, I change the jumper to master... the 2 pin (2 wire) floppy molex, I'm not sure what to do with that. Do I just connect that to a normal 4 piece 4 wire molex (on the power supply) to the adapter itself? I'm really not familiar with the floppy connector at all, no idea
Omg thanks so much! I was trying to figure out if it was defective or what. Walking the dog but dying to try it. I am just trying to transfer so I can care less about longterm stability
Thank you very much for posting this video showing that you need to make the hard drive a master!! I'm trying to get my old ATA hard drives to work myself. Some claim that you can run Windows 98 on a new motherboard. It would be great if it is true!! I miss my old DOS games. Don't know if they will work, but buying one for 17 dollars; I'll take a chance.. If not, well at least I can erase my old hard drives. Hopefully copy my old files over. I'm really starting to hate the pace that they put out new stuff so you HAVE to buy new.. My new HD monitor, WITH a VGA connector does not work with my older boards. Thank God I still had my old 60Hz wide screen monitor.. Otherwise, nothing.
Was looking at the possibility of reading my IDE onto sata board and definitely your tip is wonderful (even if you go on a little bit about minor prob. when yourself recognise that you only paid 2 bucks for it!) Thanks a lot (I wish there could be an external way to connect it though; my pc twr is in an awkward spot.
The "instructions" (which are just the markings on the board) are ambiguous at best. It's very confusing and hard to tell which connectors are required for which direction. If you don't use it often, you'll probably have to try each permutation every time you use it until it works. :-| I don't use mine at all, I just use different, separate cheap Chinese adapters for each combination of SATA, 3.5" IDEA, and 2.5" IDE.
I have bought one as an old pc only has 2 IDE on the motherboard and 2 sata so going to use it to run Windows XP off the old IDE drive, just for sentimental reasons as first computer I built back in 2006
Mr MArk. If i have a motherboard with sata(ahci mode in bios) and want to add a pata dvd drive will work? Because i see many times that it will work only if i put my motherboard sata ports to legacy ide in bios.
Cool video, but I'm still stuck. I set my optical drive as MA, connected everything correctly, bios detects it as optical drive, windows can't. Are there any additional drivers one would need for it?
A Microcontroller would not have SATA PHY, so no, it's some kind of ASIC. Actually, one should get one just for at decap and teardown. Maybe Electronupdate wants to do a teardown on one?
I've watched about a hundred of these videos trying to figure out how to connect it to power. A simple "This wire goes to this connection, ..." and so on would be helpful. I don't want to destroy a hd figuring out how to use this thing. My main question is how to connect it to power. Also , I'd be excited if someone could direct me (or tell me) how to use one of those pcie test cards that I"ve ordered 10 of from China and they never come with directions. I"ve burned out 3 of them trying to figure it out. IT seems simple enough. ... but it isnt lol
hi I got one of these back in 2010 £5.00 mine did come with a little bag & leaflet brief description what you just said your video. has issues with Seagate sometimes on SATA 300. but sata1 has worked fine. I have also riged this to a 2.5 via a 3.5-2.5 for laptop repairs. had to reformat a 500gb western digital via believe it or not a win98 disk. then windows xp could see disk to format on that system. weired but it worked. keep up the good vids :)
Hey Mark quick question, i can tell by your channel that you're either an electrical engineer or computer engineer right? I plan to major in either one after my senior year this year once i attempt to get into Purdue University. Did you enjoy the classes for EE and CE?
i connected it to IDE 3.5" hard drive, IDE hdd > sata (which means when connecting to ide hard drive into sata port on motherboard) put hard drive on master and my pc doesn't recognize it!
Will this adapter work for SSD's? I want to clone my old Xbox harddrive to an SSD, and I think the IDE cable to the SSD requires an adapter. If I am wrong, please note I am willing to learn. Please advise. Thank you in advance
thx great vid. Have you tried a SSD , i kept my window 98 PC and i was wondering if i could replace my ide drive with an SSD. (Asus p4t motherboard, Pentium 4 cpu, 4 GB Rambus Memory, Windows 98) I'm a flight simmer. and i love the old Janes titles. what i have now runs great. I put it in a modern case. wish i could post a pic. thx
I get one of these and it present errors while booting the sata3 kingston 2.5 60gb ssd I have, but the ssd works fine in a regular sata, so I wonder the adapter doesnt read sata3 or if I got a defective one Also I didnt get at first this ide disk to sata port passthrough and tried to plug the ssd there and the connector to the motherboard, got a red led on adapter, dont know if it fried anything though
dose anyone know of an adapter that uses ide male to sata female to get some new life out of a curupt drive on a laptop or shoudl i just by a new ide drive?
With a DVD player it will work as Master or Cable select but not as Slave, well it did when in combo with my SSD OS Drive. If I set DVD to Master it kicked out my SSD and thus no OS but when I put it to Cable it became a slave to my SSD.
Same here. It seems like most people are buying the board to hook an older IDE drive to a SATA host, but I want to do the opposite. Both a SATA Hard Drive and SSD weren't detected by my IDE host no matter which direction I hooked up the cables. There is no way to set "master" on a SATA drive, either.
@@GeorgeWalker1 I tried here, it detects the ssd sata3 disk on pata host but the disk shows tons of errors that dont present at a standard sata motherboard. I was hoping to find any clues on solving that
Cant get this to work in master slave or cs. Do you know if this is compatible with sata 3? Otherwise im stumped as to why i cant get this to work. Eek
Then they would not play nice with each other, kinda like Trump and Hitler--each wants to be master and enslave the other. If you try to make them both Masters, their egos would get all offended, and they wouldn't speak to each other--or to you. Anyway, with master drives, as they keep saying on Highlander, "There can be only one". The others have to be slaves. On the other hand, if you're a feminist or are offended by the "Master - Slave" reference, you could call them the Mother and daughter drives; or "Father and Son" drives if you're a guy who is offended by all the feminist rhetoric. Whatever moniker you choose to give them, no matter how many you have, there can be only one "Mother", "Father", or "Master". Basically, that's the system that ensured that the earlier computers chose the correct drive every time instead of saying, "Hmm! This guy wants to access data from the hard drive--but there are two hard drives. Which hard drive should I choose? Should I just scan both until I find the data that the user is looking for? There's got to be a better way...." In the case of hard drives, it also told the computer which drive to boot to--which drive contained the operating system. That's just how it is in the cyberverse. There can be any number of Masters, just not on the same planet (computer).
Question for anyone: I bought an adapter card to read old harddrives and the IDE side of the card is the same "gender" as the harddrive! I see "gender changer" products but an IDE has 2 parts to it that fit 2 different plugs. Is there a complete harddrive changer or should I try to remove the plastic from the harddrive so I can wire it to the card?
I don't always buy the cheapest crap. If I wanted something well designed I wouldn't even bother with such a bus-board. You buy what is economically viable for the task at hand.
Eight months later, Al replies: If you look on the back of the drive where the jumper pins and jumper sleeve are located, it will usually indicate Cable Select (CS), Master (MA), or Slave (SL) above the corresponding pair of jumper pins. Usually the jumper is set to Cable Select mode by default. On some IDE drives, removing the jumper sleeve completely puts the drive in Master mode. but in most cases, you will just need to remove the jumper sleeve from the CA pins and slide it onto the MA pins. You may have to use a hemostat or small needle-nose pliers to get a grip on the sleeve, but it will slide off easily. In some models, leaving the jumper sleeve off also changes the performance of the drive compared to using the jumper sleeve in MA position. In other words, using the jumper sleeve yields different features and sometimes different data transfer rates than not using the jumper sleeve.
Quite funny, the AMP-connector, refered to as being a "Molex" is not even manufactured by Molex - funny how we have been calling them Molex - i did all the way from the 90s where i started building custom PC's :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molex_connector