The CHEAPEST way to fix "SQUAT" when TOWING! (Easy Fix)

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What is the CHEAPEST way to fix "TOWING SQUAT"? (Easy Fix)

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@SmoknJaysGarage Год назад

I added these to my truck based on a previous video you did. (I believe it was on the Hammer) I'm really happy with them. They help a lot when towing, and I haven't noticed any downside when I'm empty.

@louisloyd4967 Год назад

I have them on lowered 2020 single cab F150 and love the way it handles. It's also stop it from wheel hopping

@deankraft5107 Год назад

Porpoiseing . I Pull my 26' 6000lbs travel trailer with my levelled 2022 XLT Powerboost with Firestone airbags at 50psi and a weight distribution hitch and get no porpoiseing or wheel hop at all. The truck is almost dead level with trailer attached. Love the videos fellas, keep them coming!

@tylerstrub9987 Год назад

Just ordered mine last week. Putting them on tomorrow.

@Christer885 Год назад

Great video as always 😊👍🌹

@mylespl 10 месяцев назад

Great video and a Beauty shop

@jasonbrushett2005 Год назад

Great product!

@samwilliams9374 3 месяца назад

Both porpoise and warble good explanation 😃

@MX51959 4 месяца назад

never heard either porpoise or warble but both are good guys..great video from Australia

@robertnightster Год назад

Thank u for the info 😎😎

@foggybottombbq1916 Год назад

Gotta order mine for my 2021 F150. Did you install the standard or the HD ones on your personal truck? I pull a few boats, 5500 lbs is about the max. Thanks for all the great content.

@MrDaveakaICE 8 месяцев назад

Nice video. My question is, was the weight distribution hitch setup correct. I have a 2017 f150 sc with the max towing package available for it. I have towed my best friends camper for him on 2 occasions. His caused mine to squat a bit. We moved the camper to a level spot in his driveway. I did a new setup on his wd hitch, and got the truck back to just under 1inch of squat. Just curious.

@UkrainianPaulie Год назад

Also making sure that you air your tires more than 35 psi. My 21 F150 with 33's I tow at 60 PSI with my 28' 6200 lbs Winnie Minnie.

@bowman120volt 6 месяцев назад

Porpoise 🐬 for sure , use that term on the boat also if the motor trim is up too much

@NGinuity Год назад

I'm with you on those Timbrens. Fantastic suspension ON a trailer. Not so much on the truck.

@bobbelcher1826 Год назад

Added this to my F150 and it made a little difference, but our trailer was just a bit more than our truck could handle....safely. We made a 300 mile round trip, and it was White-Knuckle driving in heavy traffic or in construction areas. The squat was less than without. Ended up buying a F250 and feel much better Camper is 38 feet long and 9000 LBS dry weight. Bumper pull with Recurve R3 Distribution Hitch.

@BackroadDriver Год назад

That is a huge camper! They say an F150 will pull 10,000 but I think 7,000 is about the most that feels good.

@jorgepadilla21 11 месяцев назад

What is your hitch weight on that camper? 1200lbs?

@dunerinaz 4 месяца назад

Even attempting to pull a 38' trailer with an F150 is absurd

@eljefe6782 7 месяцев назад

Is your truck lifted? What size tires are those? Bought the RAS because of this video. Thank you

@zackmorehouse Год назад

Looking at RAS for towing and regular driving as well. Do you still think this is the best option?

@sflagg0817 19 дней назад

I had an 16 3.5 eco boost at 56,000 miles 8 years later I ended up with broken motor mounts, and bad manifold. Our camper is only like 3500 dry so add like 2000 for everything else which is a rather large stretch so it’s still in the towing range. We ended up trading it in for a super duty

@josephberger9441 Год назад

It is definitely called porpoising the F1 cars was dealing a lot with that this season

@georgecrowe1881 4 месяца назад

Apparently RAS is pulling the leaf springs together to increase the road height. Is this putting undo pressure on the u-bolts? Maybe I'm overthinkg it?

@Suggestion_Box_Full 4 месяца назад

I need help! I have a used Dodge ram 1500 190000miles. It was purchased from a specialty truck place in GA from the previous owner(orange county choppers edition) but it squats!! The folks used it previously to tow cattle trailers and a 15ft work trailer. I have been looking for a cheap fix that I could possibly do myself. I have some experience with cars but not with suspension whatsoever.. any recommendations on where to look or what to do as I am going thru some things currently (as most Americans are) I also have a Ford expedition that was my daily driver but it was hit in a parking lot and I was told that the tierod was bent but I am not sure if I trust the guy who said it as he didn't even jack it up or anything,and from what I could see you cannot see the arm from beside the tire and wheel well. so anyway I have been driving this and it's hard as a rock on the road...if there's a pebble you feel it and even without a trailer you feel the 'hop' when hitting bumps,potholes etc(I live in Columbus Ohio and there's 3 things we have no shortage of 1-abandoned homes priced to remain empty,2-a$$holes, and 3 POTHOLES...) I just don't feel confident driving it or the ford now...I'm afraid the ford is gonna lose the tire or it go sideways as I am driving and the Dodge feels like im gonna bounce off the road...any suggestions would be appreciated from y'all or the folks in the comments 😞im starting to feel i may meed to bite the bullet and have the dealer look at it for the low cost of my first born child and the next 2 years of income..

@bonn1771 Год назад

Nice upgrade for sure Too bad not the 6.2

@bigthing75 Год назад

I have a 2012 F150 XLT 4X4, I've beat the heck out of and it doesn't squat like that when pulling a camper trailer, 25 foot I believe. It did come with a tow package though, not sure if this truck has that. Love the truck, owned it since new (9/1/2012).

@dunerinaz 4 месяца назад

Every F150 ever made would squat with a 25' camp trailer.

@mikeradke9786 3 месяца назад

What do you use for tire shine?

@davidgreen437 Год назад

I have a 2020 f150 platinum 5.0 and it's got a 6 inch rough country lift with an add a leaf in the rear and I but the roadmaster springs. I tow a 6500 lbs camper with almost issues.

@Tech4Ten Год назад

Just asking u mean u have 6 inch lift + add a leaf +roadmaster active? Just asking since planning on doing similar with my 2020

@davidgreen437 Год назад

@@Tech4Ten yes all 3

@Whats_noah_up_to 4 месяца назад

what mud flaps do you use?

@wsmcook Год назад

That is porpoising. I love RAS, have it on my tundra but you definitely need to adjust that WDH. It should not have been squatting that much from that trailer.

@jorgepadilla21 11 месяцев назад

What are you pulling with your tundra? I just got a camper and had a lot of proposing and a lot If squat. Trying to figure out what system to get to get rid of the squat.

@Smokeshow767 Год назад

How do you like the new Ultra watch ? Yeah I seen it 😂

@tjbristle 6 месяцев назад

I have a 2018 F250 Superduty without overload spring. Looking at these. I haul a 5th wheel. Would you be for / against / indifferent about adding these AND airbags?

@user-zy5eh4sg4y 4 месяца назад

I had an 01 F250 and installed airbags for hauling a slide in camper. The bags themselves worked perfectly. My personal opinion is these RAS kits are a bunch of hype and way overpriced. The bags are similar priced and the great thing is they are easily adjustable. BTW, I installed the airbags myself. It's not that difficult.

@birddog79 Год назад

Hello gentlemen. I noticed you said you have had air bags in the past and made your truck ride rough. I have never had them but was assuming that you could take all the air out when your not towing to have a normal ride. I have a 21 f150 like the hammer (without the extras) and was looking into what would be best for my truck. I don’t tow that often. Any help would be appreciated guys thanks.

@MrCovain 10 месяцев назад

I just got a 2023 chevy silverado 1500. I put airbags on mi e. Don't do it. The ride is horrible now. The bags tie the axle to the frame so the shocks can't fully extend so now it's super bouncy

@Beemernow Месяц назад

@MrCovain while I have no reason not to believe your story, I just think it's crazy how you can read someone else's comment about how they are better than sliced bread and then you read yours...JustSaying

@marchaws Год назад

I didn't know these fit on worn out leaf trucks. Do you think they'd work for my 92 honestly? It's a bit of change and I'm considering it again...

@marchaws Год назад

Also sorry I've been out for so long

@BackroadDriver Год назад

They made a bigger difference on this truck then they did on Sam’s 21. Hope life is treating you good!

@marchaws Год назад

@@BackroadDriver life's not too bad right now brother! When I get home I might think about getting RAS for the old rig.

@jrt0127 Год назад

If you can only get them or the shocks which would you get

@BackroadDriver Год назад

If you're looking for better towing I would get the Roadmaster active suspension. If you want a level and better handling get the shocks. Together they work well.

@daamills2011 Месяц назад

I recently retired from military and I have a 2008 Chevy avalanche lt with rebuilt trans and engine and I am going to be pulling my 2001 keystone 27ft trailer 1000 miles to where i retired at. I have 24 inch wheels on it will this help or should I put on factory tires and do this pull?

@BackroadDriver Месяц назад

I would put the factory wheels and tires back on. The load rating on your tires on 24’s is probably not adequate.

@daamills2011 Месяц назад

@@BackroadDriver okay I was thinking and wondering that too. But when I looked at both of the tires on the low both of them have 1120 kg I was just more concerned about the pulling pulling more gas with the bigger rim or control pulling it but if you think the factory it's fine. Lol I don't have to look good lol I just need to get it back here to the base. 😆

@nxnwchevys2011 Год назад

Coil over rear shocks

@tsi87supr60 Месяц назад

Replace those factory 4x4 shocks with the fx4 shocks. I never experienced that much squat with my FX4 towing my toy hauler. Yes I used my truck as a truck until I sold it an bought a real truck.

@rockycadieux4642 9 месяцев назад

So the settings on the weight distribution hitch before an after is my question, and why is that not a big deal that you should show?

@BackroadDriver 9 месяцев назад

We didn't show the weight distribution hitch settings for this setup because they are different for everyone. Everyone's trailer has a different tongue weight and almost everyone's truck is just a little bit different. To set up a weight distribution hitch properly takes quite a bit of trial and error. That's an entirely different video.

@rockycadieux4642 9 месяцев назад

@@BackroadDriver A better question would be did you change the weight distribution hitch settings between the start and end of the video? I have a WDH and can manipulate squat with the settings.

@fokinggarageshop7731 Год назад

I always had the porpoising problem on my 18. Everyone told me to get airbags so I did. It sorta helped. Then was told needed a bigger truck so I went with a 3/4 ton. Sold that went back to a 17 f150 eco. And finally someone else calls it porpoising, nobody could understand what I meant. I'm going to order some of these. Anybody have these and use bilstein 5100 with it?

@chasethornton5986 Год назад

That’s where I’m at. I have 5100’s front and back and it’s leveled. From everything I’ve read the RAS will lift the back of the truck .5-1.5 inches. Essentially defeating the level. Imagine it on stock suspension. That front bumper would be sniffing the pavement with a stick setup and RAS. it’s the ONLY reason I haven’t ordered my RAS system yet.

@SkylarMelo 5 месяцев назад

So 41" in the front and less than 40" in the rear when unloaded? I hate levelling kits that put the nose higher than it should, even with minimal squat it'll look stupid, headlights to the sky.

@hhazelhoff1363 8 дней назад

Drink Bud Light

@alvinclose8181 Год назад

I always call it wibble wobble

@BackroadDriver Год назад

Nice!

@sewerman911 2 месяца назад

Throw a new set of Bilsteins on there for the cherry on top.

@Mooseknuckle713 Год назад

Be cool to see the product

@rangerguy196 6 месяцев назад

This video is slightly misleading. It’s obvious that the weight distribution kit was not set up correctly for that truck and trailer. A few adjustments to that WDK would have had that truck and trailer leveled out perfectly.

@Beemernow Месяц назад

That's exactly what I was wondering, I was like, ummm, still squats a bit. Good to read it probably just wasn't adjusted right...

@Jromo27 5 месяцев назад

It’s way cheaper to get airbags

@thudtrades1850 2 месяца назад

Porposing is a boater term for the most part... imo

@Northamerican-fe2zf 8 месяцев назад

air bags are better

@tuckswanger Год назад

Pourpasing?????

@BackroadDriver Год назад

Porpoising. Like the dolphins and porpoises in the ocean.

@canyonero2050 3 месяца назад

Lol. Timbrens and airbags won't ruin your ride, and this system in your video isn't the cheapest, as stated. It's actually the most expensive 😅

@BiggMo Год назад

“..Cheapest..” ????? Not at $539. Old school helper spring is cheaper… probably not as nice unloaded, but your description is dishonest

@BackroadDriver Год назад

RAS is the cheapest solution that works well. Helper springs are not anywhere near as good as RAS. That's why I don't even consider them an option.

@BackroadDriver Год назад

And I don’t think anyone that knows us has ever called us dishonest. Just because you can’t afford them doesen’t mean we aren’t right about our recommendation.

@Hotpowerwash Год назад

Tongue weight

@my67falcon Год назад

That's what I was wondering. My 2011 5.0 Fx2 with tow never sat that low on my 33ft Zinger 30RK.

@cisco1dog 7 месяцев назад

Timbrens don’t change the ride unloaded at all. They aren’t even engaged. This guy knows nothing. 😂

@BackroadDriver 7 месяцев назад

I beg to differ. They replace the bump stops and sit about an inch and a half away from any travel. They cause a super bumpy ride. I have tried all of the major products available. I obviously know something and you don't know anything 🤡.