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The Child Prodigy Trope, Explained 

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The first 100 people to go to www.blinkist.com/thetake are going to get unlimited access for one week to try it out. You’ll also get 25% off if you want the full membership! | Are child prodigies born or made? Do they deserve our envy or sympathy? And what happens when they grow up? In this video we take on the Child Prodigy trope on screen, what they represent in our culture, and why we project our dreams and disillusionment onto these wunderkinds. If you like this video, subscribe to our channel or support us on Patreon: / thetake
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@thetake
@thetake 4 года назад
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@robertfoertsch
@robertfoertsch 4 года назад
Excellent, Sharing Through The TRUTH Network...
@trinaq
@trinaq 4 года назад
I adore all of your videos, particularly the "Trope" series! 😍Please can you cover and explain the "Bad Boy" trope in a future video, and why the "Good Girl" is almost irresistibly attracted to him?
@annarose932
@annarose932 4 года назад
Could you do a video looking at hypnotism within films and maybe TV shows. I think the power of controlling another human is a interesting power on the screen, usually being associated with dominance; fear; knowing the deep secrets of a person; and has been used in horror and thriller forms and has sometimes had sexual or romantic symbolism. It would also be interesting for you to look at the vampiric power of hypnotism in older films.
@elsie1327
@elsie1327 4 года назад
Can you do a video on the sound of music? It's my favourite movie and it would be amazing!!
@michaelguerrieri3815
@michaelguerrieri3815 4 года назад
Please do an article on days of our lives julie Horton's.
@hopiahon563
@hopiahon563 4 года назад
5-year-old me: *expansive vocabulary, college reading level, inhales 40 books a day, excels in every class, grasps concepts easily and applies it accordingly* me now: *chokes on her own spit on the bus*
@trinaq
@trinaq 4 года назад
Haha, your comment just made my entire day, kudos! 😊😂
@rinmartell2678
@rinmartell2678 4 года назад
Same😂😂
@neuralmute
@neuralmute 4 года назад
This is my autistic life! XD
@lievev.d.h625
@lievev.d.h625 4 года назад
mood
@katherinemorelle7115
@katherinemorelle7115 4 года назад
TatzRules Yay that is absolutely a massive issue! I glided by without studying all the way up to university. Then I dropped out. Though to be fair, that was because I had a massive breakdown. I took years to get back on track, and then halfway through my law degree, I became severely disabled and had to drop out again. Now I live below the poverty line on a disability pension, and can’t work or study. Needless to say, I have not lived up to the expectations of my childhood. I’m pretty sure I still hold the record for youngest uni dropout in my state though- I was 15. Super impressive, huh? 😂 But by the time I finally got back around to uni, I had learned how to study and organise, and my notes were a thing of beauty. They had a contents page, and were colour coded. Which helps a lot when all your exams are open book. I did have a perfect GPA until I dropped out again, so I did eventually learn how to study right, it just took an extra 10-15 years longer than most kids. Whoops.
@tariqthomas9090
@tariqthomas9090 4 года назад
The Child Prodigy trope really makes me sad. Being a kid is already hard enough, but child prodigies are often exploited for their talent and isolated from other children, only for them to grow up to be miserable adults. It’s pretty heartbreaking.
@bryanalstoncoxing
@bryanalstoncoxing 4 года назад
It can also be very lonely when you don’t have a lot of peers your own age to relate to
@tariqthomas9090
@tariqthomas9090 4 года назад
SketchbookHR That too. Feeling ostracized is one of the worst things for a child and it creates such horrible trauma for them anyway. But imagine being an outcast for something that other people tell you is an amazing gift. You’ll probably grow up to be extremely self-loathing.
@bryanalstoncoxing
@bryanalstoncoxing 4 года назад
Tariq Thomas Haha yup. For a few years after college I definitely engaged in some self destructive behaviors like partying way too much to “fit in”. In hindsight though I felt like smoking tons of weed and drinking a lot and watching shitty TV shows was like shutting off my brain, making me stop over analyzing everything and at least giving the illusion of being like everyone else and living in the moment. That being said, if there was a pill I could take to be “normal” I wouldn’t take it. My academic prowess and creativity has allowed me to escape the borderline poverty I grew up in and provide for my family. But those feelings of loneliness and isolation still persist 😢
@queenemma5823
@queenemma5823 4 года назад
This effect was briefly touched upon in “Better Call Saul” with Jimmy’s brother Chuck. It’s implied he was a genius and went to college at a ridiculously young age, but he didn’t have many friends there because he couldn’t relate to any of them since he was like, 14-15 years old
@halfbloodprincess989
@halfbloodprincess989 4 года назад
Truuuee!
@sophroniel
@sophroniel 4 года назад
I fully maintain that the worst thing you can do to a gifted child is telling them that they are gifted.
@lanarich6759
@lanarich6759 4 года назад
I disagree, I think the WORST thing you can do is isolate them because they are gifted. You can let them know they are talented, but you can't isolate them from other children, and rob them of their childhood. But I definitely see where you're coming from lol
@paperl9328
@paperl9328 4 года назад
No-- gifted children have other learning requirements and work differently from other children. Pretending your child is normal will leave them wondering why, in god's name, they aren't like anyone else, and if you don't introduce the possibility of an accelerated learning course early, you could have a horribly, lethally bored child on you hands. What you've got to do is realize that they still to rest and build healthy relationships.
@sophroniel
@sophroniel 4 года назад
@@lanarich6759 I don't think you should isolate them either--which is why that is not what I said. I was more trying to convey that singling out a child, and specifically labelling them as "gifted", and then TELLING the child this--especially in the context of schooling--can be detrimental to their self image further down the road for a few reasons. I should also add that telling a kid that they are talented/clever is quite different from the specific "gifted" label; I would argue that ALL children should be told they are special and worthwhile (because they are), and these terms aren't/shouldn't be linked only to IQ measures. IMO care should be taken in praising all kids, to make sure that the child doesn't link their own self-worth with external achievements or measures--which I think can more easily happen if they are aware they are "gifted" (due to the specific percentile definitions around the term) and then also the associated treatment from adults and/or peers. That said, I am mostly speaking from my own experience as a kid who was skipped two years, and the similar experiences of my friends; naturally ymmv, and I am NOT a child psychologist... I just see how my own self worth issues are linked to how I was treated as a "gifted" kid, especially when I reflect on my brother's very difference experience, despite us being pretty much the same as me in terms of aptitude and intelligence. My parents, while aware he was smart of course, made sure he was never officially labelled on school or medical records as "gifted", where I was.
@sophroniel
@sophroniel 4 года назад
@@paperl9328 You can support a gifted child without calling them "gifted" specifically. Maybe it isn't the same worldwide (?) but where I grew up it was a thing parents can get kids tested for (this standardised series of exams/psych tests that spit out where they land in relation to their peers' expected and bellcurved academic progress) and it is then attached to their school record. Because of it being on a kid's perm record of learning, teachers are required focus their teaching around a specific "gifted model of learning" that the ministry of ed mandates for the kids officially deemed "gifted". Kids should be taught according to their learning requirements but in my experience it can be a very delicate thing in challenging the kid while making sure they don't develop unhealthy standards for themselves and/or externalize their value as being intrinsically linked to their academic performance or capability. Like I said with the other comment, ymmv, but I am speaking from my own experience here. TL;DR: smart kids can be accommodated and extended appropriately at school without slapping a "gifted" label on them and all the baggage that comes with that term.
@Alienami
@Alienami 4 года назад
My parents never told me I had autism or ADHD and it fucked me up, honestly it made my life soooooooooooooooooo much more difficult and stresseful than it needed to be...because I knew I was different, it was overt and obvious that I did not think like anyone else around me and I was wayyyyy better at LEGOs than other kids... I made a pulley system out of a string, toy tractor and slung it over curtain rods, around a ceiling fan on a tall ceiling... all at age 3... why? I wanted to turn a light switch on across the room so I didn't need to get up from playing with my LEGOs once it got too dark to use natural lighting. Gifted kids are going to figure out they are better at stuff than other kids one way or the other, so its best to allow them to show them how to be humble and not get full of themselves...because hubris is antithetical to progress, stability, and not being an asshole... plus, being born tall doesn't make you a better person any more than being born smarter... nothing makes a person and better person than another, not even being a better person. (Paradox, I know.) I'm tall and often called "smart" -- but I think unless someone has an I.Q. over 1,000, they're an idiot and...this just in...News flash: we're all idiots, at least compared to future humans and any other beings we may encounter, including a true artificial lifeform we will inevitably make, given enough time. People seem to forget we're literally in the young phase of the universe still... and we're still effectively in the stone age, but due to hubris somehow think we're smart, amazing, mostly flawless... lol we're like kids trying on our parents shoes and clothes, pretending to be adults... its cute, but oh my... we full of our selves as a species and never want to admit when we are wrong or that there could possibly be a better way to do things. Remember: We're all idiots trying to be smart... just because you're a little smarter doesn't mean shit. Ego is often the enemy of science and progress and a healthy life as individuals. Be humble, be happy. Learn for fun. Invent for fun. :)
@helloeuphoria4407
@helloeuphoria4407 4 года назад
When I was a kid, I read a book that was called Artemis Fowl. It's a whole series of eight books, and it started as him being a 12 year old criminal mastermind, who has already wrote several scholarly articles about psychology, resolved very difficult math problems, etc. He was over the top, and he was only twelve. Anyways, I remember being so obsessed with the idea of being like him. I started reading all sorts of books, I studied about psychology, philosophy, math, at eleven. And I remember being frustrated if I didn't understand. Now, I've always had a good memory and good grades. I've always been smart. But I've always been lonely too. My classmates would call me "smart-ass". They wouldn't talk to me. I had to talk to adults. So, along with my parents being neglectful, I grew up quite fast. So now, fast forward eleven years, today I am 22 years old, nothing fills me, I've changed majors like four times, and I don't know how to interact with people my age. I have anxiety and I'm deeply disappointed of myself. Let kids be kids, and explore and wonder the world at their pace.
@trinityclay8732
@trinityclay8732 4 года назад
Same thing happened to me, I loved Artemis Fowl
@amadoubah9296
@amadoubah9296 4 года назад
sofia 22 is still young.
@ohyeahsubscribetomaximilia5694
@ohyeahsubscribetomaximilia5694 4 года назад
sofia wow that‘s sad, but I appreciate the message!
@anyrarahman5481
@anyrarahman5481 4 года назад
Artemis fowl is actually a slightly scary work of literature. It feels all too real..
@BloodOfMadara
@BloodOfMadara 4 года назад
sofia 🙂It’s scary how much I relate to you, I read adult courtroom novels, medical books, and watched TV shows geared towards adults at the age of 12 and as much satisfaction as I attain answering much of the game show jeopardy trivia questions correctly I too struggle to relate to and socialize with others my age.
@mitsiejc1077
@mitsiejc1077 4 года назад
Matilda and Hermoine are my favorite child prodigies because, despite their magical abilities, they still felt like relatively normal girls who loved books and valued intellectual pursuits. There were so many misunderstood male characters growing up that it was refreshing to read about some misunderstood genius girls.
@himara6302
@himara6302 4 года назад
I don't think Hermione was a prodigy, more of the smart-girl trope. She wasn't a born genius just above average and exceptionally hardworking.
@satycastro6551
@satycastro6551 4 года назад
Margo Tenenbaum
@liapalmer381
@liapalmer381 3 года назад
Himara I think she almost was a born genius. Yes she worked hard, but her intellectual capacity was huge. She was able to figure things out exceptionally well and her memory capabilities were also amazing.
@lexi7749
@lexi7749 4 года назад
I’m a middle school teacher and there does seem to be a correlation between kids in GT/Pre-AP and self destructive/ suicidal tendencies. It’s like they’re too self aware, think too much and deeply and they don’t know how to handle it.
@bryanalstoncoxing
@bryanalstoncoxing 4 года назад
I was always in gifted classes and middle school was right around the time I began having intense depression and anxiety. In fact one day in 6th grade I came home crying because I was trying to figure out what college and career I wanted to pursue and got very overwhelmed. Being smart can be very isolating and lonely, especially at the pivotal age of middle school
@lexi7749
@lexi7749 4 года назад
SketchbookHR Yes, I agree. As teachers, we tend to worry about them less because they behave and do all their work, but they have a lot on their shoulders too.
@sarahrobertson3939
@sarahrobertson3939 4 года назад
Existential depression.
@ItssMelissa
@ItssMelissa 4 года назад
You are completely and utterly right, I’ve always had the expectations on me for various reasons (my name included) and from an early age I learnt how to adapt to what people want and how to please others, for my family, maintaining my maths skill and english skill was what they wanted from me. However, I didn’t actually suffer from depression until I was introduced to the idea of suicide and spent late nights trying to save my friend from it. I have been isolated from my friends and peers because of my intelligence and often find it hard to ask for help because throughout my childhood it was framed as ‘weak’ and my teachers now can’t understand why it’s so difficult for me to ask and why I get so frustrated so easily when others don’t adapt as quickly as me despite knowing it’s not their fault
@SaucyLiving
@SaucyLiving 4 года назад
How would you recommend them to get through thinking like that?
@franciscrozierera
@franciscrozierera 4 года назад
I've never liked this trope. It always makes me feel worthless for not being smart enough. There's just so much things I want to do, but I'm either too lazy or I'm just afraid of failing. Everytime I see something like "This 8 year old discovered xyz", "Einstein could do college level math by the time he was 15", I feel like I'm just not good enough, it's always "This could be you, but you're too stupid to do that". Everytime I, for example, solve an equation or something and it turns out to be wrong, it just adds to that feeling of being worthless human being. If I spend my day watching a tv show instead of learning or reading something, I blame myself. Like I can never be truly happy. (Nobody cares, this is just easier than writing it in diary)
@RandomSkyeRoses
@RandomSkyeRoses 4 года назад
You're smart, you just gotta find your passion and practice until you get really good.
@charrieg8511
@charrieg8511 4 года назад
I sometimes feel the same way as well! It's important to know that you do have special and unique talents of your own, that you might not even realize. Also, people who are child prodigies don't really decide to be a prodigy, it's a combination of environment and genetics, like stated in the video. Negative thoughts will only hold you back and once you can let go of them the best you can reach your full potential! :)
@arlyntobady
@arlyntobady 4 года назад
idontwannaliveonthisplanetanymore this is exactly how I feel
@Ankara_ratgirl
@Ankara_ratgirl 4 года назад
You put our feelings in the best way possible! try writing I feel like you can be good at it .
@raspberrycrowns9494
@raspberrycrowns9494 4 года назад
If you don't like the trope then just ignore it, stop watching things that make you feel bad you probably have depression or something so I'll give you some credit but the world doesn't revolve around making you feel good believe it or not some people actually do like this trope and is most likely aimed at them, go watch something that makes *you* happy or study, mistakes can be made and who cares, the people that are judging you probably made mistakes too
@cassandralyris4918
@cassandralyris4918 4 года назад
Without going into too much detail, it's painfully isolating. Prodigies are frequently pitted against each other in competition. Average kids think you're a jerk regardless of what you do. Adults begin to put far too much responsibility on you at far too young an age. I ended up quitting school at 13, and it's still incredibly difficult for me to relate to others despite the fact that most other kids "caught up" to me at some point. (Which is another aspect of this trope that you only touched on. Eventually most of your peers are going to mentally catch up to you and you sort of no longer feel special, or as in my case resentful that adults thought you were special in the first place instead of just leaving you alone.) Other parents out there: if your child shows a particular strength or interest in something nurture it, but don't rob them of also being kids. They can never get that back.
@ashlynrose2464
@ashlynrose2464 4 года назад
This. Exactly this. Everyone measures your worth by your intellect. When you are no longer the smartest of the lot, they blame you for disappointing their unrealistic expectations. No one cares about how damaging this is for your self image.
@mrillis9259
@mrillis9259 4 года назад
1% of the earth's children get this thing we invented in the west called childhood.
@Liusila
@Liusila 4 года назад
mr illis I wholeheartedly disagree. Do you think humans are born with fully formed adult brains? No, there are many stages in a child’s development, and the first ten or so crucial forming years are called childhood.
@outside8312
@outside8312 4 года назад
It sounds like you were actually hothoused. That's massively damaging almost 100% of the time
@missmelodies52
@missmelodies52 4 года назад
Yes! I've seen adults focus so heavily on praising them or talking about their skill or outright telling them they're different, and it is so alienating.
@missbriteside6598
@missbriteside6598 4 года назад
Growing up labeled as a gifted kid, I never felt smart, I just learnt fast. That’s it. I saw kids suffer to retain information. They studied long hours and still forgot the material during tests. I never thought I was smart because I lack creativity and innovation, all I got is a good memory.
@aricarly
@aricarly 4 года назад
I'm the laziest person ever, but I was always labeled as the "smart little girl" just because I have a good memory (to the point I do remember 85-90% of every single day of my life to the exact date). Anyways, I would come home from school, watch lots of TV, take naps, then do my homework and I almost never had any time left to study. I still got excellent grades. Until I got to university and reality kicked me in some subjects.
@dulcimerrafi
@dulcimerrafi 4 года назад
Same here. I'm naturally lazy and unimaginative. I had just had a good grasp of concepts and an amazing ability to retain information, although quite a lot of it was useless.
@knweeb514
@knweeb514 3 года назад
Same I never felt like I was smart because I wasn’t creative or could come up with my own ideas I just always had a good memory and understanding concepts
@rinnieunchanged
@rinnieunchanged 3 года назад
Exactly same with me
@groot2322
@groot2322 2 года назад
Same I always saw it as copy and paste and always envied people who could come up with things on their own and thought of them as geniuses even though they weren’t labeled as it
@arinaz318
@arinaz318 4 года назад
When I was a child, about 9, my mother gave me a book to read. It was called “Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mom”. I was fully expected to live up to the standards exactly like those for the children in the book. I practiced piano, grammar and math as if I was manic. At 13, I had an audition for Julliard school of music. After they rejected me, I thought my parents would disown me. They didn’t notice my existence for a month. I was a disappointment. I’d love for this to be an inspiring coming of age story, but it wasn’t. I’m now what you could call a Bojack Horseman tragedy, trying to fill the hole in my empty heart. This is not a pity party, just a warning for those who think that raising a kid genius will solve all your problems. Instead it will either blow up in your face, or in the worst case, leave the child with emotional trauma and trust issues.
@rosemali3022
@rosemali3022 4 года назад
I'm so sorry that that happened to you, a parent should never abandon their kid like that. I pray for you to become whatever weird and wonderful person you are in your heart. (I say that because I believe that we are all inherently weird and wonderful and "normalcy" tries to suck it out. Just in case you dont see the word weird as I do, something of beauty).
@amber5675
@amber5675 4 года назад
People are too focused on talent of the kids while the most important thing during childhood is personality development. Sure they are smart, but before that they are kids and need to be taught kindness, to enjoy and explore the world. I met a lot of 'geniuses'. But they don't want to be called that. Most of them are smart as a child, but they all worked hard to get here. Ultimately it's not about what you're born with but what you do with it.
@starry_skies
@starry_skies 4 года назад
Yess! Love this!!
@itsmartin02
@itsmartin02 4 года назад
Please, say it louder. It's really important.
@ManiaMac1613
@ManiaMac1613 4 года назад
People tend to be impressed by natural exceptionalism over hard work. I believe that intelligence and creativity is a lot more common than people think it is, but the work ethic and life skills necessary to translate your intellect into improving your life is truly rare.
@teodoraslozoraitis7409
@teodoraslozoraitis7409 4 года назад
Exactly. I always admired my peers or even younger children who excel in some kind of activity, like music, or studying, but mostly because it usually takes a LOT of determination and hard work, sure if they are intruiged in the field they excel, to them it might not feel like burden. I just feel that child prodigies, or children who are exceptionally good at something, should be respected not because of their status, but because of the effort they put into achieving it.
@caodogao4327
@caodogao4327 4 года назад
I find the "Bad Seed" type of story terryfing. It implies that no matter how you raise your child, there's always the chance that they just come out as a monster without being your fault.
@BlondeCurlsBlueEyes
@BlondeCurlsBlueEyes 4 года назад
I agree. One of the many reasons I don't want children.
@irmabud
@irmabud 4 года назад
tis just a story though. "bad seeds" don't actually *happen*, bad people come 100% (and I do mean 100%, not 99%) of the time from a troubled childhood, abusive family, passed trauma...
@caodogao4327
@caodogao4327 4 года назад
@@irmabud Well you say that, but it is not 100% as you say, because many people turn into sociopaths despite coming from a nurturing and caring family. Also, Psycopaths are born too. There is always the genetic component that complicates stuff and it's not clear the odds of someone just coming out wrong. But the odds are never zero. That's why it's terrifying.
@kirakoraawesome
@kirakoraawesome 4 года назад
@@irmabud for one, trauma can be a result of many things (not just abuse) which might be out of a parents control. And, children can be abused by people other than their parents (like siblings, teachers, relatives) Also, there are some mental health issues that people are just born with, and especially because they are stigmatized there might not be much a parent could do to get their child the help they need.
@MChantal76
@MChantal76 4 года назад
Please do the Angry/Strong/Sassy black woman trope. I would love to hear your take on it.
@nejat4471
@nejat4471 4 года назад
!!!!!!
@samsontheladle
@samsontheladle 4 года назад
Yaaaaaas There's a clip in an episode of Community where Shirley (black woman) is being asked to act in a commercial a certain way. Guy can't find the word to describe what he'd like her to do, and there's a cutaway where Shirley says "the word he's looking for is 'sassy'. He better pray he don't find it." If they ever do this trope, I would love for them to include this line
@borntobelucky02
@borntobelucky02 4 года назад
They made one about the strong black woman a few days ago.
@shaniceshipp8677
@shaniceshipp8677 4 года назад
Take a human evolution biology course and put two and two together. Coming from a black woman in the us.
@anyanwuwildseed4023
@anyanwuwildseed4023 4 года назад
From the perspective of two white women?!! No thanks! Their videos are cool but they should stay out of racial analysis that’s already highly negative and exaggerated irl!
@iceadonis6340
@iceadonis6340 4 года назад
This trope is so stupid, being an adult can be a pain. It's just telling kids to grow up fast, so that adults dont have to take care of them and make them look good...
@umbrellacorporation4435
@umbrellacorporation4435 4 года назад
You have no idea how happy it made me to hear a mention of Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz and other geniuses of color, I'm so used to hearing only about white ones.
@adventurous1019
@adventurous1019 4 года назад
Umbrella Corporation I love Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz work
@helenchelmicka3028
@helenchelmicka3028 Год назад
Such a good point, it has been dominated by white narratives. Would love your take on the ladies in hidden figures! That was so awesome seeing ppl of colour, esp women, as so intellectually talented 😀
@thirdplanet4471
@thirdplanet4471 4 года назад
I do feel for child prodigies when people hate on them and assume that they don't work hard because they're talented. It is true that they can pick up things faster than most but to say that prodigies don't work hard is not fair especially since some of them are made to work insanely hard and are put under lots of pressure. Plus, even geniuses need to do their homework and seek improvement lest they become stagnant. At the same time l'm no fan of those geniuses who have a superiority complex because they are smarter. Overall my point is everyone has to work hard and we shouldn't be jealous because someone progresses faster or angry because someone progresses slower because we all make progress on our own individual pace. Plus, its not talent vs hard work as many like to claim but it should be talent + hard work + passion.
@infjelphabasupporter8416
@infjelphabasupporter8416 4 года назад
Mecha Zord thank you so much❤.
@luciocastro1418
@luciocastro1418 3 года назад
While this is true and an important caveat, I did find school so easy to pass that I never studied and didn't develop the skills needed to excel at college. Now being 25 is still a struggle to maintain a consistent routine, go the extra mile and accept diminishing returns in long term skills because of that lazy attitude that carried me through many years. And I know I'm not the only one.
@lievev.d.h625
@lievev.d.h625 4 года назад
if anyone who used to be viewed & labelled as a gifted child, like myself and is struggling with it rn because you didn’t learn how to study because it was never necessary, I recommend checking out the video tiffany ferg’s about being seen as gifted in your youth! it really helped me.
@ndpd7695
@ndpd7695 4 года назад
You just described me... i have no studying habits...i need to change that
@leilazerrouki7040
@leilazerrouki7040 4 года назад
There's gifted adults too... If it's the real giftedness - which is not just knowing a lot of things reading a lot of books having good grades etc. - it won't go away... But as I said real giftedness is not what is commonly considered as being smart/gifted... And the wrong is not science and real giftedness but more the false representations and the adults screaming "gofted" for ... I'm sorry but nothing, and you end up with situations like the one you are describing with a child having that label to then fall of it. And on the side real gifted people that don't fit the stereotype falling under the radar, sometimes being ven considered less, suffering of no recognition and no adaptation to them, and still suffering during adulthood because things are still not made for them. I'm not here to say that one pain is worse than the other, I get how being pressured because everyone think you are gifted can be very hard, real gifted have it, we even pu it on yourself often, but then you get adulthood and... Yeah realize that no, I'm a real gifted I did not experienced that but I can get the pain. But as a real gifted I still don't know how to really "work" and it's not that much that I don't know but more that I can't. I can do incredible things and read learn etc. Like crazy... If it's not seen as an effort by my brain. If it is everything froze and I can't force it. :/ and when there's need of an added effort I'll have trouble with it, I'm lucky my level of giftedness allows me to get away with my minimal effort, but I'm thinking about people not gifted or gifted but at a lower level who suddenly have no other choice but to make effort however as their brain of gifted is the same as me they also have a hard time with forcing their brain to work... No effort not forced not work ? He'll yeah I'll learn tha language in no time. An assignment ? Work ? Effort ? More ? Oh no suddenly I don't even know how to speak my own language. I can get the very hard time of these person - and how lucky I am compared to them-. But it's... Not the fault of the gifted and the non gifted children that are victims. Victims of parents wanting their child to be special, victims of at a moment a problem with the diagnosis... Victim of mentality and stereotypes. Oh he learned to read before age 3 ? Prodigy ! Gifted ! ... No. It's also a problem with external vs internal. Giftedness the real one is not external it's internally how your brain function on a biological level... It has something to do with neuroanatomy genetic... But the person giving diagnosis of giftedness should know that and be able to make the difference between a really gifted person and someone that is not... To help at least a little bit with stereotypes. To dare saying "no ma'am your child is normal." To a mother desperately wanting her child to be special. (which is also selfish... Real giftedness is not funny in our society as it is... And in the absolute sometimes.) I'm sorry for what you've gone through and that now it's ok for you :) if you are not a real gifted you might be able to learn how to work. If you are... There's way of functioning with sometimes annoying brain :)
@lievev.d.h625
@lievev.d.h625 4 года назад
@@leilazerrouki7040 so hi, I don't know if I would still be considered 'gifted', rn im in highschool, all the classes I take are AP classes and I get good grades, but that's mainly because this year I forced myself to learn how to study, things still come really easy to me especially compared to most of my friends. I had to force myself to actually put in the work because about 2 years ago I was so used to understanding everything immediately that if I didn't understand something immediately I would get a panic attack and wouldn't even bother trying to understand, I dropped every subject that didn't come easy to me. but I forced myself to learn how to study and now I have this mindset: if I don't understand something, it doesn't mean I won't ever understand it, it just means that I don't understand it YET. anyway I learned myself how to study and although my study habits aren't perfect yet (i'm still very good at procrastinating), I'm getting better and better everyday. I hope you learn how to 'work' or how to deal with your brain!
@JustMeAri
@JustMeAri 4 года назад
I love her channel ♥️
@infjelphabasupporter8416
@infjelphabasupporter8416 4 года назад
@@leilazerrouki7040 Same. Reminders that were not alone are so good. Once you find the subject you're interested in, you'll spend a lot of time working on it and studying it with no procrastination problems. I thought I was a hopeless student until I discovered philosophy!
@nikkimorada7906
@nikkimorada7906 4 года назад
I AM LOVING THIS TROPE SERIES!!
@trinaq
@trinaq 4 года назад
Likewise, it's my favourite of their series of videos! 😍
@phineasfacingforward3460
@phineasfacingforward3460 4 года назад
Same!
@masterywithdebraandkuku3410
@masterywithdebraandkuku3410 4 года назад
Me too!
@eurydicefiori865
@eurydicefiori865 4 года назад
Matilda is my favorite child prodigy 🥺
@trinaq
@trinaq 4 года назад
Mine too, Matilda was my idol growing up, as was Lisa Simpson! 📚
@dramatictrauma331
@dramatictrauma331 4 года назад
When I was a kid people told me I was gifted, by the time I was a teenager I could only barely pass most of my classes. I’m doing better today in University but I’m no longer considered gifted or exceptionally talented in any way. I was never an actual prodigy by any means, but I do empathize with successful kids “burning out” before adulthood.
@yve4889
@yve4889 2 года назад
I relate to this on such a deep level... Except I'm not in college yet.
@km1dash6
@km1dash6 4 года назад
The child prodigy was meant to say "this is a really special child" in literature. Jesus was written as a disciplined child. Krishna was loved wherever he went. And in African legends there are a few cases of children born walking as a means of saying "this kid is above the curve." This trope is really old. And the Greeks actually had "daemons" (later translated as geniuses) that would come out and give people ideas. This last idea gives the impression that genius is a force of nature we shouldn't try to control. It's an idea given to us. We don't have to understand it, we just have to accept it.
@AnansisLibrary
@AnansisLibrary 4 года назад
Shoutout to Mwindo, the one born walking and talking.
@AliciaNyblade
@AliciaNyblade 4 года назад
Man, this hit way too close to home. I was the bookworm in class who couldn't wait for us to read Shakespeare, Dickens, Poe, Victor Hugo, etc. Hell, I read them in my spare time; the Great Illustrated Classics series was my jam growing up. I loved analyzing literature in in-class discussions and essays and was praised by my teachers and other adults for having "writing skills far beyond my years" in academic and creative pieces. I'll be 32 on April 2, 2020, less than a month away as I write this. I went to college as a double major in Creative Writing and Theatre, I have several projects I'm currently working on, and yet still, sometimes that little voice in my head will pop up: "You're in your 30s and you STILL haven't gotten a book published or a play produced? You've been writing since you were six years old!" I was never directly called a "child prodigy", but looking back, I often felt treated like one. The combination of feeling pressured, especially self-pressured, to succeed at an early age and realizing once you're grown up that the very talent which made you stand out as a child now just makes you one of many equally-gifted people in your field can be quite jarring. I know it was for me as a college student and it still can be now at times.
@dashrubberbear
@dashrubberbear 4 года назад
Be kinder to yourself. Try to love life and yourself in it. Success is meaningless if it leaves you hollow and unhappy. Learn to be happy and calm your mind.💖
@aricarly
@aricarly 4 года назад
I relate a lot to you... my sister and I are both in our early to mid-20s, and as kids, we were praised by our ability to articulate words (in my case), and my sister for her impressive imagination. Together we would write the craziest stories, develop convincing storylines that amazed every adult around us. I was six and my sister four, and I would read her "Don Quijote" to sleep. We would play dolls, and our parents were amazed by our stories... we would also take the Greek Classics and mythology and change the plots to fit our storylines. I skipped a couple of grades in school, as I used to be also really good at math, my sister skipped kindergarten. By the time we were early teenagers, we had this huge plan of writing our own books and maybe get them published by the end of High School. We did start a few, but as the years passed, both lost interest and became moody teenagers with borderline depression. We didn't have many friends, and I was "the weirdo". She, being pretty, at least had more friends. At 17 I still had hoped to write a book by 18 or 19. Now I'm almost into my mid-20s and I have achieved nothing, majored in something totally unrelated to writing (Architecture), and while my sister has been a little more successful (she's a Film major and has written a couple of scripts for our university), we're both disappointed with what we turned out to be. I guess as you said, the pressure instead of helping, makes you feel stressed and overwhelmed. But even after all of this, I still have some hope left. And I hope you can also find some answers, 32 is not old at all, and if you have a dream, today is the day to start it.
@33Jenesis
@33Jenesis 4 года назад
You sound like Rory Gilmore, our famous book worm young lass in Gilmore Girls! Now seriously, all of us have to adjust aspiration/dream with reality. How many kids want to be astronauts presidents or doctors? Yeah, to reconcile that with working stiff life that has no end in sight is pretty depressing. May I suggest that you keep on reconciling and try not to feel negative. Now there may be a book or two in the process as long as you don’t fall for the trope of cheerleader becoming fat housewife or nerds becoming billionaire LOL!
@33Jenesis
@33Jenesis 4 года назад
@@aricarly Mandy, you are only 20 something. You have 3 more 20 something sectors before you are by death door. It means, of life is a marathon, you are hitting the wall at 6.5 mile mark because you ran too hard and too fast. You are good with words but you may decide that it’d not be a career but a hobby instead. If so, your gear would be in finding a career that you can stomach and pays for standard of living and into retirement while leaving you with time and mind to enjoy your hobby. If you decide to keep on pursuing playwriting or book writing, don’t leap or jump and then feel miserable for not getting high enough. Find small measurable points of progression to build momentum. One day you may be a new novelist sensation who has been writing all her life to get there.
@AliciaNyblade
@AliciaNyblade 4 года назад
@@dashrubberbear Thanks for the encouragement. I've always found it hard to balance being creative and simply living life in the moment. I think that's why the trope of the "tortured artist" is so popular: The artistic soul struggling between their gift of creating things which reflect their observations of life and simply enjoying their own life is a very real thing, at least for me and my circle of creative friends. But I do practice things regularly like meditation and my faith as a Wiccan and witch also helps give me perspective and keeps me grounded. Thanks again for such kinds words.
@krystofdayne
@krystofdayne 4 года назад
I can't believe you didn't include a short segment on Malcolm in the Middle in this video 😱 I feel their approach to that trope is one of the most nuanced out there while also being hilarious 😂
@GhoulishGrime
@GhoulishGrime 4 года назад
I think Malcom was a similar but different thing The "gifted" kid. Not necessarily super geniuses, but adults and others "expect better" of them I think it's a nuanced difference
@krystofdayne
@krystofdayne 4 года назад
@@GhoulishGrime Nah I disagree. Malcolm was shown to be easily the best even in his gifted class without even trying while being able to make them completely break down if he forced them to compete with him while he hardly broke a sweat. He was feared in inter-school academic competition and he was shown to have savant-level math and memory acuity. So I would safely say Malcolm is above "gifted". Dewey is the one you can safely call gifted.
@PowerCookie1
@PowerCookie1 4 года назад
@@krystofdayne savant-level memory acuity... How ironic now.
@melodyclark1944
@melodyclark1944 4 года назад
He spoke like a normal child. Was him being smart significant to the story?
@krystofdayne
@krystofdayne 4 года назад
@@melodyclark1944 Yeah, he spoke like a normal child, that's sort of my point that it was more nuanced. It's always very weird to me when child prodigy characters on screen speak so elaborately, it just seems off and weird. As to whether his intellect was important to the story, well, yes and no. The whole show was about him just wanting to be a normal kid but his enormous intelligence setting him apart from both his family and his peers. Malcolm himself generally tried not to make his intelligence the story but it couldn't help but shine through. But honestly, I think it's beside the point whether his intelligence was that important to the story or not, it's still an example of that trope.
@dgvanz1155
@dgvanz1155 4 года назад
"Apapapapa! With 10 you're a prodigy, with 15 talented, after 20 you're just an ordinary person! "
@kaliko5245
@kaliko5245 4 года назад
Where's this quote from?
@dgvanz1155
@dgvanz1155 4 года назад
@@kaliko5245 Kenichi the mightiest disciple, a martial arts manga and anime unlike Baki, DragonBall or Ranma. If you like to dig in to it I recomend the Manga because the anime didn't captured the fights pretty well.
@HappyRoach1
@HappyRoach1 3 года назад
Prince was a musical child prodigy and his talents were still amazing into his 50's. Prince could play 27 instruments, he could write, arrange, compose and produce his own music. He has a very prolific output of music, a vault of several thousand never heard before songs. His band and studio engineers all said that Prince would wear them out with his prolific output of music. Because he would make several songs a day, and sometimes several different versions of the same song. Prince often had backup musicians and studio engineers after the first ones would get tired. I know many musicians who wished they had that type of talent.
@trinaq
@trinaq 4 года назад
Yes, I never knew that I needed a "Child Prodigy" video, but as always, "The Take" delivers! These precocious children are usually so busy trying to accomplish their crafts, and acting like miniature adults, that they can't relate to children of their own ages, may have limited social skills, and don't have a proper childhood. "The Royal Tenenbaums" covered this topic well, and shows how screwed up the wunderkinds have become under the influence of their abusive parents. 😢🏅
@JelaniTime
@JelaniTime 4 года назад
Trina Q truth
@starlight8554
@starlight8554 4 года назад
I was never a genius but I was reading at a 16 year old level when I was 9, and I remember the teachers treating me like I was some sort of genius. It used to piss me off, because I just wanted to read, and their constant praise was making my parents suddenly expect A+ grades across the board. I mean, I’m not doing bad right now but they really made me believe I’d be the next Shakespeare and the self-hatred I used to feel when I couldn’t deliver was crazy.
@user-hd8ej8yx9p
@user-hd8ej8yx9p 4 года назад
For those “prodigies” in the comment section: you were never a genius, you just read well when you were a kid.
@NC-ij9rb
@NC-ij9rb 4 года назад
Ahahahahaha true
@ecliptik8020
@ecliptik8020 4 года назад
lmaooo we were really treated like Einstein for knowing how to read
@mile5842
@mile5842 4 года назад
Ecliptik it even feels like they wanted you to be a genius more than you did
@manicpixiecurse5337
@manicpixiecurse5337 4 года назад
I was a child prodigy *and* I turned out to be a genius, so you take that back.
@maggiemcfly5267
@maggiemcfly5267 4 года назад
lol
@kevnar
@kevnar 4 года назад
You forgot the most important point about child prodigy stories. It's about escapism, wish-fulfillment. It's a power fantasy for the viewer. The precocious child is just another form of superhero, like Superman or Spider-man, with extraordinary abilities we all wish we had. We all feel powerless and frustrated most of the time in life, and we watch superhero movies and prodigy movies because we project ourselves onto the characters. And if we only had those abilities, we wouldn't be so powerless.
@helenchelmicka3028
@helenchelmicka3028 Год назад
Oooh brilliant analysis!! Been looking up things to do with the 'American dream' and narrative of meritocracy in the US. Wonder if this trope could be tied to that and that could be part of its appeal? Wonder how child prodigy/superhero narratives in the US compare to other countries this way?
@beccag2758
@beccag2758 4 года назад
There actually was a kid at my college who was 12(!). One of my professors told me the kid was really brilliant at math (sometimes they politely corrected the professor in calc 2) and on par in the other classes (liking writing), however you could still see they had a juvenile/inexperienced thought process. As a child whose 12 _would_ think, they weren't an adult mind in a kid's body (which is what movies sometimes do) they were just super smart
@yve4889
@yve4889 2 года назад
12?!!!!!😭👍
@victoriacapitano4351
@victoriacapitano4351 4 года назад
The Kindergarten Teacher is a really interesting take on this genre- adults putting this gifted pressure on children because they were not as wonderful or didn't succeed- now are living vicariously through this child. Other examples are toddlers in tiaras, that kind of thing.
@Marauder131
@Marauder131 4 года назад
Im surprised Rory Gilmore wasn't included in this. Especially as she was constantly praised in her childhood and adolescence for being an incredibly intelligent, prodigal daughter of the Gilmores. But when she is an adult we see her blunder time and time again and she never fully fulfills her potential.
@bfl5078
@bfl5078 4 года назад
Bad boy Trope should be the next video
@nikhitaramanujam5076
@nikhitaramanujam5076 3 года назад
Honestly, everybody is a child prodigy in their own way. There is no reason to use that term to draw comparisons or put yourself above or below others. Nobody is more or less than anybody else. Each one of us has a special set of innate strengths and weaknesses to both offer the world and enrich our experience as humans. As Albert Einstein once said, "Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."
@lillost
@lillost 4 года назад
They did a 20 minute video about child prodigies and didn't mention Malcolm in the Middle once? That's a fascinating study. 3 out of the 5 kids were geniuses (Jamie was never explored). Reese was a culinary genius, Malcolm an academic genius, and Dewy a musical genius who also had a total recall (photographic memory). The 3 boys had no idea they had these skills until given the opportunity to express it. Reese is a raging idiot, but found his niche in cooking. Malcolm is an unlikable jerk, but is praised for his knowledge. Dewy is weird and virtually the forgotten youngest child but thrives in musical prowess. They had an absent minded father and a berating and overbearing mother. The family was violent and manipulative, but there was always a base of love and loyalty. At the end of the series Lois (the mother) forced Malcolm to forgo his full ride scholarship and work his way through school, because that's how the family thrived. They were hard working and tenacious people, she felt that without that disadvantage they wouldn't become the people they were meant to be.
@annaequare
@annaequare 4 года назад
oh i hate this narrative so much, this "without suffering you wouldn't become as great as you are" bs. it's so insulting to the bright people who had to endure abuse/neglect and grow up in poverty. i'm not stronger for it, i'm strong despite it. or maybe i'm a mentally ill mess for it.
@franciscoancergomez3949
@franciscoancergomez3949 4 года назад
This reminds me of The Umbrella Academy. And how each of the kids had superpowers which could be a metaphor for gifted. Specially that "The Royal Tenenbaum's" movie. I think I might check it out.
@TheLeah2344
@TheLeah2344 4 года назад
My favorite child prodigy is Matilda but the child prodigy can be very problematic with the “ not like other kids “ mentality. It’s sad how they aren’t treated like normal children.
@anaj835
@anaj835 4 года назад
Please do the Shy Girl/Shy Guy Trope Explained! :D
@qqfuwu1
@qqfuwu1 3 года назад
everyone in the comments: “I was the gifted child and look at me now, a failure.” me: man I tried my hardest at art, writing, anything I got my hands on and I ended up a failure and below average on everything..at least y’all got some praise and smarts even if it lasted a short while 😭
@jmgerraughty
@jmgerraughty 4 года назад
I grew up in classical music, where there’s a HUGE premium placed on child prodigies. I still get bent out of shape when I see some kid wheeled out onto Oprah, not out of concern for them, but because I wasn’t one. It’s difficult to be a non-prodigy in a field where people think prodigy is the norm.
@aaronbrosnan7005
@aaronbrosnan7005 4 года назад
Do “The Popular Kid troupe explained”
@____-zk1iq
@____-zk1iq 3 года назад
What's there to know about those popular kids? They're popular and they think of high school as a caste system where they are at the very top. In short they think everything's about them.
@stellurwill7883
@stellurwill7883 3 года назад
@@____-zk1iq yeah but why do they think that?
@Fusilier7
@Fusilier7 4 года назад
Child prodigy's can also be Batman villains, in The Batman 2004, child prodigy Arthur Brown turned villain after he lost a game show "Think, Thank, Thunk", to Yelena, a refugee from the Soviet Union, so he became the Cluemaster, an intelligent, but obese recluse, plotting revenge on the game show hosts, and Yelena. During the confrontation, Batman scolds the Cluemaster, "Is this your legacy, bitterness and revenge? You could have done something great with your talent, like Yelena did", and Batman defeated the Cluemaster, but stomping him with a question, name the true identity of the Batman, a question that little Artie didn't know, Batman beat him at his own game. The Cluemaster was a unique villain, despite his vast intelligence, he chose to pursue villainy, reliving his childhood shame, of loosing a quiz game show, and refusing to admit defeat, but was thwarted by Batman, who lost much of his childhood, after his parents were killed.
@jayneb6053
@jayneb6053 4 года назад
Isn't Batman kind the same he just put his vengeance on bad "guys".
@Fusilier7
@Fusilier7 4 года назад
@@jayneb6053 It was lampshaded in the episode, Alfred compared Bruce and Artie, both became prodigies, but for different reasons, for Artie it was to win that particular game show; for Bruce, it was to bring criminals to justice. Yes, both characters were out for revenge, but Artie's reason was petty, he didn't move on with his life, and became a villain to avenge his ego. Bruce became Batman, because it was personal, to avenge his parent's deaths, and to seek justice for Gotham City, if Batman was not there to stop the Cluemaster, he would have murdered three innocent people, he was going to drop them in acid.
@kindateia
@kindateia 4 года назад
My primary school was a nightmare. Constant competition, day and night, no friends, reputation to uphold, teacher who built herself a personality cult. God, that girl she always compared me with - we couldn't get along with her for so long because of that, but now I found her socials, and we actually have a lot of same interests and could be really great friends. Fuck being a child prodigy.
@danebirbhaha7520
@danebirbhaha7520 4 года назад
Are we the same person?
@YK-wr1ng
@YK-wr1ng 4 года назад
I don't know if I could've been described as a child prodigy, but I was seen as being more mature and reliable than kids my age by everyone around me. I was a really creative child back then, and a leader amongst my peer group as well. I used to lead my friends around, making up games for us to play or reading aloud stories that I made up. Everything was so vibrant back then, and I felt like I could do anything. The beginning of my "fall from grace" was when my family moved back to Korea I believe. While in the US I was bright and energetic, in Korea where creativity isn't as valued or nourished, it felt like life was being drained of color. It didn't help that I had forgotten Korean completely during my stay in the US and felt like a foreigner in a strange and unfamiliar land where I could not understand the people at all. In a single day I lost friends and confidence in myself- where I was independent before, I became shy and anxious due to being unable to communicate with the people around me. My experiences from then on became a sort of trauma or stumbling block in my head that keeps me from associating Korea as my home country or initiating things on my own. As an adult, I am angry about how my parents handled my reintegration into Korea. They had just left me to fend for myself, they didn't even offer to teach me Korean just assuming that I would pick it up naturally as it is my mother tongue. They dropped me off at a local school and would get angry at me for the drop in my grades (when I clearly didn't speak or understand the language, and the curriculum was completely different to the one in the US). They would snap at me if I asked something that any Korean child would already know until I just stopped asking altogether. They did nothing. They just threw me in and expected me to float all on my own. Now I have an anxiety disorder, and am no longer inquisitive about the world. I have small anxiety attacks whenever I have to enter a new environment or have to ask questions about anything. The future just looks bleak to me now.
@seanmcdonald5859
@seanmcdonald5859 4 года назад
And then came Sheldon . . . .took us right back to "hes weird and unlikeable: we should mock him for being utterly ridiculous as a character"
@babsybrrrnz
@babsybrrrnz 4 года назад
you could say Malcolm in the Midde is the anti-child-prodigy; child prodigy story. Each of the children are geniuses in their own field. - Malcolm: Math & Academics - Dewey: Music - Reese: Cooking - Francis: Strategising & Leadership
@eoincampbell1584
@eoincampbell1584 4 года назад
The commonality of special and talented children in pop culture (both this trope and the chosen one thing) made me feel for much of my childhood that I was talentless because I couldn't find anything I was naturally good at. The way I saw it I was a "jack of all trades master of none" doomed to be only ok at anything I tried. I realize now I should have been ok with being ok, especially since it takes tons of practice and dedication to become actually great at something whether you start with a natural talent or not.
@technologywontsaveus
@technologywontsaveus 4 года назад
Yeah, easy to see why. You shouldn't compare yourself to the people around you (too much). Getting inspired is good, being jealous or frustrated/depressed because of your alleged talentless is really bad. But the worst thing, as you mention, is to compare yourself to some famous person's talent. There are usually good reasons, why this person made it this far. But the absolute horrible thing is to compare yourself to fictional, written characters. You almost never see them train for their talent. They just are cool or talented. Reality is very different. Doing all that could be really hard. Usually you are surrounded by some people who do something cool. Or have a family. Or go on holidays. One thing that really helped me a lot is to find your own things to do. Because then you have something to talk about. You don't have to think: This guy does such cool things while I'm just lying on the couch. From my personal experience I can say that it is a good idea to find something you're interested in. And try it. Even if it doesn't work out. Even it is just for a season or a couple of years. There are several advantages: You don't sit at home alone in front of some screen. You have something to look forward to. You have an appointment that you don't want to miss. You don't have to ask yourself what to do at home tonight. You go among people or at least are in contact with a music teacher. You're talking to people, you're laughing, you're learning, you're working towards a common goal. You get challenged. You try something new. You have something to talk about (not with everybody, but from time to time). You get a new perspective. It doesn't really matter if you're good at what you do. And one thing often leads to a new unexpected idea/hobby, because you are among people and get new inspiration.
@mmdino
@mmdino 4 года назад
That's soo true
@bryanalstoncoxing
@bryanalstoncoxing 4 года назад
Another point about the loneliness and isolation gifted children can feel: I was one of these kids and always thought that if I got into an Ivy League school then I’d finally be around people like me and fit in and be able to have intellectual discussions, etc. I did attend an Ivy and was let down yet again. Many of my peers were probably unpopular growing up but joined Greek houses and ended up engaging in the same bullying and toxic social structures as the “cool kids” in high school While I consider myself a successful adult careerwise I still feel the pain of intellectual isolation and disappointment I did 20 years ago. I wonder if it will ever go away?
@DANIsuperstar2002
@DANIsuperstar2002 4 года назад
You should make a video about the Eccentric (usually rich) Family trope. Like A Series of Unfortunate Events, Umbrella Academy, and The Royal Tenenbaums.
@justanordinarydemigay5243
@justanordinarydemigay5243 4 года назад
Jenna : She Used To Be Mine Me: I Used To Be Smart
@jdg9825
@jdg9825 4 года назад
This was really interesting. I'm working on a PhD proposal atm about the "teen saviour"(/chosen one) trope/archetype and the implications that could have for the 21st century teenager
@teadrinkerfication9160
@teadrinkerfication9160 4 года назад
Jdg 98 that sounds really interesting, I’d love to read it!
@jdg9825
@jdg9825 4 года назад
@@teadrinkerfication9160 thanks! I'm doing it as a creative writing piece so it should end up a series of teen scifi scripts followed by an analysis haha
@mauve9266
@mauve9266 4 года назад
What’s a teen saviour
@jdg9825
@jdg9825 4 года назад
@@mauve9266 teen characters (Buffy, Harry Potter, Luke Skywalker, etc) who are expected to save the world or accomplish a similar feat
@mauve9266
@mauve9266 4 года назад
Jdg 98 oh I see that does sound interesting good luck with your project
@anirex3919
@anirex3919 4 года назад
"Usually boys, but not always" You could say that about literally almost every character type
@lenap319
@lenap319 4 года назад
I used to be a "child prodigy" and now i have depression and dont know how to study
@just1desi
@just1desi 4 года назад
I’ll never not be amused by the line “one second dad I have the adoptions papers” 🤣 talk about prepping for something your whole short lifespan
@Leto85
@Leto85 3 года назад
Watching this story from the child prodigy's perspective gives me a strange kind of inner peace. I always was jealous at those kids who barely had to study and still got good grades. Now as an adult I see the irony in this; most of what I had to learn at school are things I don't even need to know or can easily look up online if I have too. While growing up I also lost that knacking feeling of having to proof myself or proof myself to others. It just doesn't matter anymore. If I knew all of this as a kid I would have tried less, not harder.
@AllieOk
@AllieOk 4 года назад
Please keep going with this Trope series, it's so interesting! Awesome work
@BlondeCurlsBlueEyes
@BlondeCurlsBlueEyes 4 года назад
This sounds familiar. I could read at 3, recite Wordsworth by 5, had an encyclopaedia as my favourite book... but while my parents never tried to hold me back, they also didn't put excessive pressure on me to succeed. They just let things happen naturally, and I kind of "grew out of it" (i.e. got lazy), after realising that my peers weren't interested in the same things and getting too lonely because of it. I retained my love of literature throughout my school years, but my results in other subjects (especially maths) made it clear I was no genius. Now I have a first class English degree and work in a supermarket. That's life, I guess! {Remember, kids of the world - you'll get nowhere without effort, smart or otherwise}.
@Kikirrikiki
@Kikirrikiki 4 года назад
We became depressed, have drug problems or don't care anymore.
@anonnonny3142
@anonnonny3142 4 года назад
Kiki Vivanco all of the above lmao
@ManuelGarcia-oz9uo
@ManuelGarcia-oz9uo 3 года назад
This trope to me is about our inner desires to have an easier life, being more intelligent means an easier and wealthy lifestyle. Also being a prodigy makes us center of attention.
@ultimatekunochi6577
@ultimatekunochi6577 4 года назад
I’m surprised Lisa Loud and Mr.Young weren’t on here.
@trinaq
@trinaq 4 года назад
Likewise, they're usually the first characters that spring to mind when speaking about fictional child Prodigies! 🧠🏅
@ultimatekunochi6577
@ultimatekunochi6577 4 года назад
Hayato Iwagari (Jojo’s Bizarre Adventures) is a pretty awesome one, too!
@aidoll3692
@aidoll3692 4 года назад
It's a common trope so they probably couldn't fit ***everyone*** in there.
@lalas181
@lalas181 4 года назад
The Baudelaire siblings are who instantly come to mind for me. Given the fact that they were interested in the Netflix adaptation enough to make an entire video on it, it seems weird they didn't use any clips from that series at some point in the video.
@oomay1925
@oomay1925 4 года назад
I thought Mr. Young was only in Canada so not a lot of people know it outside of Canada.
@angela-jb6db
@angela-jb6db 4 года назад
writing this now im a teenager but when i was younger, say 7 or 8 i was known in my yeargroup to be "naturally smart" (which doesnt exist really.. i just picked up on things quickly and was able to apply logic to things better than most of my peers). this was pretty damaging cuz i grew up thinking that i could rely on my natural intellect for everything which is definitely not the case, and also since i was always complimented for being smart and never for my hard work.. i just stopped working hard. i rely heavily on my knowledge and put no effort into anything cuz ive been conditioned to believe that im not smart for working hard but rather for my natural ability
@bethbaxter2891
@bethbaxter2891 4 года назад
I like Gifted because she’s brilliant but she still acts like a kid and gets upset like a kid, like her mother and uncle wanted
@trinaq
@trinaq 4 года назад
I'm adoring this Trope series. Matilda has always been my favourite precocious child, and she taught me that it's important to value your intelligence. 📚🧠
@fluffycloud3529
@fluffycloud3529 3 года назад
Telling a child it has so much potential over and over again can be just as harmful as telling it it's useless.
@lizzievanelsen2222
@lizzievanelsen2222 4 года назад
The downfall of a prodigy kid is like the validictorian in highschool dropping out\failing the first semester of college.
@trustyourself-ashleyching3646
@trustyourself-ashleyching3646 2 года назад
This!!!
@alim.9801
@alim.9801 2 года назад
I grew up with a shitty home life and was an avid reader and learned to read pretty early. I loved Matilda, I really related to her. And the movie was a great adaptation.
@marvel096
@marvel096 4 года назад
I’m so happy you included the glass family. It’s by far one of the most interesting views on child prodigies 👌🏻
@SirEriol
@SirEriol 4 года назад
I find that the single most dangerous aspect of this trope is that it teaches us that smart children are not kids. "He is not crying now because he feels overwhelmed by the new complexity of his emotions, he is crying because he is too sensitive, too aware of the world". "She is not throwing a tantrum, she is just determined in her pursuit of knowledge". "They are mocking you now, but it doesn't matter because your real life is in the outside world, away from this town, with people who are just like you". "Sure, they are going through a rough patch, but they won't need us. They are strong, self reliant". Because seriously, how often do we have a scene of an adult telling to a kid "I just don't understand you. You've always seem so ahead, marching at your own pace, I feel like you won't need me. You always seem capable of getting through anything". One single scene is not bad, but you can tell by the similarities between all of them that the parents at some point just figured out "eh, my kid doesn't need my attention or support, so might as well stop trying and leave them on their own. They seem to have it all figured out". Because children can't be smart, they are children. And if you are smart, then you are an independent adult, no matter your age, and won't need the same sort of attentions that other children have. That's something I quite enjoy about the ending of Matilda: her mom outright says "I've never got to know who you are", but the one thing she knows about her daughter is that she has found a home with Miss Honey, so she signs the papers. And the reason Matilda is happy is because even if she can read Moby Dick, Miss Honey takes her time to read it to her by her bedside before she falls asleep.
@LeighWinterrs
@LeighWinterrs 4 года назад
This analysis made me realize something... I won’t say I was a child prodigy but I was clearly well beyond my peers intellectually, and it made me a poster child. I’m a preacher’s kid and grew up in church, my mom was constantly comparing me to my sisters (vice versa), so i was used to holding face and being seemingly perfect when really family life was a mess. Adults would openly ask their kids to be like me, which as a child I basked in, but now I see how detrimental it was. I had a superiority complex and lacked social skills because I was depressed and “too preoccupied being smart to do kid things”. I was going to college to be an engineer, and then suddenly I wasn’t one of the smartest or most knowledgeable people I knew. And it made me realize I was living to be the better sibling and not doing what I wanted. Turns out I like cooking and now I’m in culinary school
@zaybluejay2407
@zaybluejay2407 4 года назад
The Child Prodigy Trope is always a solemn trope. While it is nice to see an incredibly smart kid and see how the inner workings of their mind functions, it hurts to see that in a lot of media the kids are portrayed as isolators or just being isolated from everybody else. I wouldn't say I'm a child prodigy myself, but I always have been a smart kid growing up, delving into science and art and such. From the second I became an A-B student, I was thrown into honors classes and AP classes. I've had teachers chastise me for whenever I get a lower grade because of how stressed I was about learning the material. It has become so bad that when I got to senior year, I had a mental breakdown in class because I was afraid to fail and that I was afraid to be viewed as anything that is not intelligent. The thing that most media doesn't get is that yes, the child prodigy is one smart cookie, but they have so many expectations under their belt. They're viewed as somebody that should know this or that or should take a higher class because they're just "the smart one." Some cartoons or movies don't show how stressful that can be, and how lonely that could be too when it comes to social interaction. It's even harder with prodigies that have autism or ADHD because if they don't get something or don't understand something because of how their brain is wired differently from neurotypicals, they're right off the bat accused of being a dumb person and it's awful and I hate it. It sucks how society loves to pit prodigy against prodigy for the sake of seeing who's the "smarter" one and it sucks how society loves to unload loads of pressure on these kids too (and even ones who are teenagers or adults). Sorry for this whole passionate tangent of a comment but this kind of trope hits me on a personal level because boy do I feel for those smart kids. Also, out of random thing but my favorite character who's a child prodigy is Jimmy Neutron and it wasn't only for his creative inventions, but he had a personality that wasn't entirely centered on his intelligence. And the show does focus on his intelligence, but it also shows his flaws, what makes him tick, and that he has two friends with him as well so he isn't entirely a lonely kid. But um -ahem- yeah this was one heck of a tangent lol.
@RandomSkyeRoses
@RandomSkyeRoses 4 года назад
It's the product of narcissistic parents who see their kids as objects instead of people
@tc2010vancouver
@tc2010vancouver 4 года назад
Before age of 12, I read 2-3 books a day. Sometimes I’ll spend whole day reading, and playing basketball. Then high school hits me, trying so hard to be cool and fit in. Started drinking, drugs and skipping school. Became a total douche that I always hated. At early 20s I got depressed than more alcohol drugs and self harm. Been working on myself to remove alcohol, drugs and meanless sex ever since. No I don’t getting high and drunk all day, or being a dickhead. I working on a job hoping it’ll turn into a career. 9 out of 10 previous friendship is pretty toxic, cause I was a very toxic person myself. Re-integrates back into normality is very difficult since the most important 15 years that builds your character, I decided to be a asshole. It does not help with making meaningful relationships and career. But then everyone has their difficulties to deal with. I’m no different. Hopefully I’ll become a person that will makes my children proud. And wish when that day comes. I won’t mess them up too badly. Even have something constructive to share with them. Thank you, mom and dad. For willing to deal with my shits for 30 years. God bless them. And bless friends that still around. Everyone of them is better person than me. Thank you for being around
@luciocastro1418
@luciocastro1418 3 года назад
I hope you are doing better now, and looks you are on the right path, wish you the best!
@AtarahDerek
@AtarahDerek 4 года назад
No ATLA examples? That show is full of child prodigies, including literally ALL of Team Avatar. And each case is handled differently: -Aang is an airbending prodigy and the chosen one, but focuses on being a kid for as long as he can, even rejecting his avatar status initially. -Katara is a waterbending prodigy whose skills put her at serious risk of being murdered as a child, so she had to hide them at first. -Sokka doesn't even realize he's a prodigy until his swordmaster tells him he is. -Toph discovers her own prodigy status as an earthbender, but doesn't know how to tell her parents about it. -Zuko turns out to be a firebending and swordsmanship prodigy once he discovers his own style and lets go of the expectations his abusive father puts on him. And of course, we know about such prodigies as Azula, Kiyi, Bumi, Piandao, Iroh, Ozai and a slew of others.
@linusmota9712
@linusmota9712 4 года назад
Azula is the perfect example of how a child prodigy can fall from grace , she was nurtured into believing she is above others and when faced with reality her issues come to surface and she has a breakdown
@jeffreysommer3292
@jeffreysommer3292 3 года назад
And getting beaten up every day at recess for being a "show-off" certainly helps foster a healthy attitude towards life!
@PoojaPatel-mj7pz
@PoojaPatel-mj7pz 4 года назад
To be honest I think we overuse the term gifted and genius when describing kids. I think it comes from parents wanting their kids to be special and above the rest that those kids are pressured into feeling that way. Like teaching their babies to read so by the time they reach school obviously a teacher is going to call them gifted. I also don’t believe that their are enough gifted students to actually have advanced classes in some places yet they do. Since little such and such needs to be the best. It also gives the gifted students unnecessary expectations of themselves so when they find themselves at college where everyone is like them they falter. Or when they’re learning something that they don’t get immediately they give up. The truth is gifted or not the people who I have seen excel from school to college worked extremely hard as well. I don’t know what the right solution is I just don’t think the status quo is working.
@parkerharrison7380
@parkerharrison7380 Год назад
I was lucky to have a great childhood, but this story really shares from the bottom of my heart to the top of my lungs.
@KnightlyScarlet
@KnightlyScarlet 4 года назад
I cant relate to genius. But I think I learned the biggest life lessons earlier for instance..... my mom tried tough love to kick me into academic success. I decided the more I succeeded the more she'd expect me to do... I said F that and as a 10 year old flew under the radar never exceeded expectations or failed. I ghosted school lmao and sometimes when I say things without thinking people are shocked that I'm not dumb... I just dont like attention. Not that I was a super intelligent person. My brain works slightly differently and I have a learning disability which was only clear based on how I received information. Its interesting how different minds consume information and how someone with top grades in class was also often the one to lick a pole in mid winter. Its weird. So even some prodigies I bet are really good at that one thing like violin but maybe can't process math or learn languages quickly.
@dashrubberbear
@dashrubberbear 4 года назад
Because the Universe strives for balance. Everything should always add up to a zero.
@bloggerblogg5878
@bloggerblogg5878 4 года назад
I had a friend, childhood friend I liked him, and we were good friends but after university he turned to be a "smart ass" . He thinks now he knows everything better, even we know each other since young age he treat me now like trash, because I don't fit his tenancies( nobody is). I am very disappointed about him. I know he is smart I admit that, but why he treats the rest of the world and others like stupid beings like, you don't have values at all because you aren't as smart enough as me. He also struggles with depression and mommy issues( like he is 25 now and he doesn't go anywhere without his mom, he never went anywhere without parents, mostly his mom, he behaving with his mom like a 5 years old very disturbing to watch.) .Is it worthy to be that smart if you can't have any social skills or treat other people like trash and stupid empty-headed beings? I disappointed him so much, we were good friends, but we aren't now I can't be friends with someone who sees me as worthless human being.
@user-qu5js9vw9o
@user-qu5js9vw9o 4 года назад
I love how everyone in the comment section has declared themselves child prodigies 😂
@kokomithedivinepriestess5341
@kokomithedivinepriestess5341 3 года назад
Me looking at the comment section be like: Can't relate
@CGZ26
@CGZ26 4 года назад
I can't believe that we were blessed with 5 videos in a week, and all of them are great analysis as always!
@rafael75839
@rafael75839 4 года назад
"I forgot the negative sign on the exponent. It went downhill from there" lmao I can relate
@archer1949
@archer1949 4 года назад
“Do I hear the sound of butting in? Well, if it isn’t Little Lisa Simpson, Springfield’s answer to a question no one ASKED!”
@RidleyJones
@RidleyJones 4 года назад
Every single video you do exceeds my expectations.
@blakeliu8200
@blakeliu8200 4 года назад
I hope you guys realize the gifted program takes the top 30% of the students in your elementary class. You aren’t gifted, you were picked from the top 30%. They were looking for talent, and as you grew up, it wasn’t there
@marlowmorbid8531
@marlowmorbid8531 4 года назад
i feel robbed that you showed Hiro from Big Hero 6 and didn't talk about how he's a perfect example of a child prodigy demystified and nurtured in a healthy way to explore his talents and develop great things.
@zacharydevan4107
@zacharydevan4107 2 года назад
Matilda: I wanna go to school Harry:It's outta the question. Who would sign for the packages...
@NWednesdayQuansah
@NWednesdayQuansah 4 года назад
As a former gifted/academics kid who peaked in like middle school, I felt this.
@arneholmstad4709
@arneholmstad4709 4 года назад
*Watches Rick & Morty once* You know, I'm something of a child prodigy myself
@sophroniel
@sophroniel 4 года назад
Being marked as a gifted child was the worst thing that ever happened to me. I skipped two years at school and never lived up to it ever again
@hughjazz4936
@hughjazz4936 4 года назад
What is that strange fascination with child prodigies? Most of them grow up to be miserable and depressed, especially when they realise people assume they're arrogant and condescending.
@margaret4227
@margaret4227 4 года назад
You really can’t judge a young kid’s aptitude based on how they are now. Separating children into gifted vs not gifted programs sets the “gifted” kids up for feeling like they have squandered their potential if they end up with a job they love that is unimpressive, and it sets other kids up to believe that no matter what they do they will fail because they are told only the gifted kids can move society forward. The real people that advance society are those willing to learn, take risks, and making observations about the world.
@Giarcnek
@Giarcnek 4 года назад
This was really well done... Thank You.
@jaylaoliver6725
@jaylaoliver6725 4 года назад
I relate to this so much I was grew up being praise for my intelligence and now I struggle with overworking myself and stressing over grades that it’s hard for me to relax
@jtheproducer5170
@jtheproducer5170 4 года назад
I love seeing the two main creators responsible for this channel make their tiny cameo's... can you make that happen in every video?
@samueldesmondtuah1421
@samueldesmondtuah1421 4 года назад
Fun fact Mozarts Dad who is a respected pianist forced Mozart to learn the piano as young as 3. Often using fear against him. Mozart grew to hate Music and spend his earlier young adult to run away from it.
@judeannethecandorchannel2153
@judeannethecandorchannel2153 4 года назад
6:15 My fiancee was a baby genius, though his parents totally neglected attending to his intellectual needs. They were busy getting divorced and doing drugs and didn't take very good care of him at all really. And my writing coach, though an excellent mother, was determined to raise a normal kid and not force any advanced intellectualism on him and was surprised & bewildered when he rejected his toys and begged to study astrophysics instead… It seems to be clearly more about nature.
@VS-re1sr
@VS-re1sr 4 года назад
I really liked Malcolm in the Middle. It did a great job of showing that a gifted kid is still a kid, and can not be expected to always make the most rational decisions. It also addresses the enormous pressure these children can experience, knowing they can not live up to their endless potential in their finite lifetime.
@GG-bw3uz
@GG-bw3uz 3 года назад
2:05 Prodigy or not, there's always that family member / members that pathologically expect the best from you and ruin you in the long run. And when you confront them they act as if nothing happened. Dense as a wall, unrepentant and overly pious in front of others - sometimes you wish you could twist a long knife in between their ribs just to make them feel the pain they've caused. They pretend they sacrificed for you whereas the truth is they just wanted a wunderkiddo to make them feel better. This is the reason why there shouldn't be a right to reproduce. As much as you have the right to manipulate your own body, you have no right to force someone to enter into this not so ideal world.
@philippinevlogsandgamingpl7671
@philippinevlogsandgamingpl7671 3 года назад
Being and wanting to be a child prodigy is hard. I remember that I had a knack of writing short stories and thinking of dialogues in my mind as a 12 or 13 year old but I cant seem to know how to end them and I always have these ideas in my mind but I can't finish them on paper, unlike other prodigies. It is when I reached in my late 20s that I can be able to finish a story summary and I'm more confident to finish a script or a short story. Also, I have realized a long time ago that child prodigies don't write bestsellers or critically acclaimed scripts.
@EmIdc
@EmIdc 3 года назад
I was never a child prodigy but I was a "gifted kid". Yes I have ADHD, unhealthy coping mechanisms and is now suffering from grave performance anxiety.
@megasocky
@megasocky 4 года назад
I was not a prodigy nor a savant but I was insanely good and recalling and applying learned information and good at any artistic talents. Led to people my age not wanting to talk to me because I was too deep or smart, and its difficult talking to people my own age
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