The Colleen Ballinger Situation Keeps Getting WORSE 

Every time Jojo said she “idolized” Colleen I cringed, it’s obvious to onlookers but not her

I agree, that's what sucks about this kind of exploitative behavior being so complicated. The abuser perfectly molds their own victims to defend them. One way or another she's a type of victim too and has a lot to work through on this issue.

True irony!!! You are so right!!! 🎯

She’s a shoebiz kid, she’s been groomed basically since she started appearing in front of cameras, she doesn’t know that adults treating her the way they did is not normal

Just for shits and giggles: can you give us your definition of grooming?

​@@MyBFFtheBT Money, influence, social clout, etc.

@MyBFFtheBT Even so, the two tend to go hand-in-hand. Whether it's to normalize the exploitation to them or to make sure they can't come out about it, there's gonna be a degree of grooming in some capacity. Especially in showbiz, where there's exploitative creeps all around.

@@MyBFFtheBTgrooming is building a relationship with someone for purposes such as manipulation, exploitation, and abuse. she was prepared and trained (groomed) to find these behaviors in adults normal from a young age.

@MyBFFtheBT Okay. And? Just because there can be positive, non-sexual/exploitative/abusive examples of grooming doesn't negate the negative examples that do.

Fr they straight up conditioned her into complacency from a young age, it's sad.

THIS! We are seeing firsthand what manipulation does to the brain, especially when the manipulation is done from as young as she was when she started dance moms. That was her first time being manipulated and it started a horrible precedent that now that's what she thinks is normal because that's all she's experienced her ENTIRE life. It's so upsetting.

It’s like the Ellen thing when big celebrities were coming out and saying she was always kind and treated them great like no shit your literally an A list celebrity ofc she wouldn’t be rude to you that doesn’t mean she wasn’t to others???

Yes!!!! She’s been used and exploited by pretty much every adult in her life, for most of her life!!! It will be a very long time before she sees what the truth is, if she ever does. I still don’t get how she can compare stupid cancellations to actual criminal behavior. I hope one day she sees the truth and can heal.

Yeah and she’s not going to abuse someone in the spotlight, especially someone who’s mother probably has her #

It kind of reminds me when a friend from college who is chubby and me who is obese talked about how we get shouted at and the disgusting things we get called in public by random strangers on the street, and the third friend who was skinny her whole life said “i dont believe that happened, i’ve never seen it happened. Are you making this up for drama?” 😂 (what drama it was just the three of us studying alone at my place) Or when people say “oh i dont believe he beats his wife he is always nice to me at work. I mean he sometimes loses his temper, but with good reason. She must be lying”

If she was not a victim herself, then I would agree with you that she's putting her career on the line defending someone shitty... but because she is clearly a victim that is under Colleen's spell and is parroting lines clearly fed to her straight out of Colleen's own mouth, I think her career will ultimately be fine. I think people are pitying her more than anything.

She’s loyal. Colleen is not a monster

@@nat4lo Disagree.

@@nat4lo She's made a lot of peoples' lives living hells and sends her minions to do her bidding. Seems pretty monstrous to me.

​​@@nat4lo she turned the entire internet against a child when she was a full grown adult. She sent a child lingerie. She had a child reach into her pants on stage. She thrust a child's legs open - on stage, for the world to see - after already taking note that the child was in revealing clothing. She responded to allegations of child grooming with a ukulele and a song about "only grooming her cat"- a horrifically inappropriate response to claims of grooming, whether she was guilty or innocent. Grooming is NOT a joke. Wake up 💀

She was probably brainwashed

I mean, her mother was the first to groom her into being a star, she probably wouldn't recognize 'real grooming' if it punched her in the face.

She's at that age where she doesn't realize how truly young she is. I thought I had everything figured out at twenty. Looking back on it... 😅

Wow!! That false sense of security was spot on!

Her behavior screams "I've been groomed my whole life."

Same haha she's great

I agree, I think some unhinged Swoop is what we all need in our lives

Definitely

Yes same!!

And like a red or hot pink wig 💅🔥

Damnit now it's stuck in my head again

it's true, just when I thought the bar couldn't get any lower, this woman brings in an excavator.

Its also the most memeable, hands down. Imo only followed by "I'm desperate" 🤣. Pretty fantasically awful work for the internet all around

She did actually give the internet that, she really did 😵‍💫

I was just drifting off to sleep but nope…. That damn song, it’s now burying itself into my brain!

he showed so much restraint by not pointing out that she was ALSO groomed by colleen (not to mention every other adult in her life). she was clearly not ready to hear that information on a podcast.

I personally think he should have pushed more and made it more uncomfortable maybe it could have pushed her to think more about the experiences she had as a kid the same age as Adam with the people around her I hope she opens her eyes one day

@@Kitkat_bar the fact that he ended this statement from her with “and how old were you when you met collen?” to which she responded “12.” and he just said “okay.” says a lot. reminder, he’s in his 60s while she’s in her 20s and he invited her into his space for his show and its not his responsibility to make her feel uncomfortable or risk making her feel unsafe. he needed to let her say her piece and not argue, then just move on, which he did quickly after. if you know howie’s content, you know what he thinks of it. he thinks its gross and doesn’t like colleen. i think he handled the situation great with a person her age. but i do agree that i have hope she grows up to realize what happened here. and i think in time she will, but with a family and mentors like her it will take a lot of time.

I think it might be a few years at least until she realizes it but I do hope she has that revelation. She’s been exploited for most of her life by those who should have been protecting her.

“JoJo you’re so close to getting it” -Adam

its gonna take her a LONG time. shes gonna have to unpack her parents profiting off her as well.

⁠@ville__how old are you lmao💀💀💀💀💀

How many young people have accused Colleen of grooming or assaulting them again?

She also kind of threw it away by making videos with James Charles and Shane Dawson this year, so... Colleen is not the only one she's promoting/"defending"🥲🫠

@@ashalex9638oh, yeah, I forgot that she's still friends with them 🤢

Dude I know

Right? I actually feel sorry for her.

i thought it was more the lesbiantok drama, hanging out with that OnlyJay person, so honestly this isn’t surprising to me

Yup

This is exactly why she is blind to it because I’m sure Jojo is grooming young children as well…

@ville__let it go babes

@@MISSMADISONMEDIA it's a bot just report and ignore

And then...6 months later...

Like the saying “hurt people hurt people”, which is more for the person using it to exercise compassion and not let the person who hurt them get to them. It’s meant to be used day to day to make it easier to brush off nasty people you might encounter out in public. But people have taken that and used it as an excuse for their own awful behavior. most hurt people do not hurt people because we’re super sensitive to how it feels to be hurt. I saw an interesting video about how people who have lots of power and influence taking phrases and bastardizing them to suit their narrative. I forget the name of the video, I wish I could remember so I can link it. It’s a bit of a manipulation and social engineering tactic, and then other people run with it.

it came from years ago and the people who DID the 'cancelling' originally (dgmw, it was still dumb back then) came up with that word, not the cancelled people.

Yeah I hate it, also the whole term “cancel culture” like no, it’s not a culture of people just wanting to ruin someone’s life. It’s wanting people to be held accountable for their awful actions..

Words change over time bro being cancelled is being deplatformed

i feel like you miss the point@@MimiUsagichan

Reminds me of that Drew Gooden sketch from his Ellen video where someone is being strangled by someone else, and the strangler’s friend shows up and watches this person die, saying “nah, Ellen has always been nice to me, so I’m pretty sure he’s not strangling you right now”

Absolutely. And “nice” is such a cop out. No one said she was a bully. She was inappropriate and exploited kids. She can exploit different ppl in different ways, and being “friends” w little Jojo, w her star on the rise, Colleen could exploit Jojo by being “nice” to her. Even just to get the ego boost that Jojo’s adoration gave her

Yeah like it being a reason you’re shocked, sure, but a reason to defend absolutely not

CinnamonToastKen made a comment that JoJo sounds like a victim of Colleen and she will realise that in 10 or so years. I can't help but agree to some degree.

No crime committed

@@martybass7376Sending explicit material, whether yours or someone else’s, to minors is a crime.

@@fallingawayfromthenorm well call the LAPD or FBI. . She is presumed innocent until proven otherwise

@@pinkmiku12 call the LAPD or the FBI. Be the change agent

​@@martybass7376 only the victims can open a case and yes they are

@racheljohnson5343 I saw that post as well. I was very sad when I saw it. Sorry to just follow on with your post, but Swoop HAS done and is doing an amazing job. The internet can be a toxic environment but this wave of hate going toward Swoop is appalling. Swoop, please hang in there and know you and your staff are incredible.

My thoughts exactly!👌🏼

She is the perfect victim. Could only be better if she brought new victims to Colleen.

It’s really sad. Her definition of “friendship” or relationship w adults is obviously so skewed.

@@informitas0117 She probably did before.

Which part of it was grooming?

She’s 20

Same age as Adam MacIntyre according to Adam himself.

Swoop even confirmed she's 20 in the video..

@@aenithharper2417 Adam has just turned 21, so he is 8 months older than her

​@@amandamandamandsso old enough to know some sense

agreed, i wish people would understand that grooming isnt Just the sexual side of it. its any purposeful manipulation and abuse of minors that benefits the adult in the scenario. i hope jojo learns and gets the help she needs sooner rather than later

Totally agree!

Yes definitely!!

She could work with Adam to do a massive deep dive on Korey destoto!

This is the aspect of the story I know hardly anything about - kinda feel guilty about missing this part cuz it seems like one of the most heinous

​@@Idontwant1well, one thing Swoop covered, was that Trent knew what he was doing was wrong because in his convos with Oliver, he said he was not supposed to talk to anyone under 18, so he knew it was wrong. Imo, the extent to what he knew about why is irrelevant.

This

It's also something I hope she learns to understand better because the risk becomes, as she gets older, she can become the one making these bad choices with younger fans thinking it's all fine. She seems like she has a good heart but if she doesn't recognize how unhealthy these dynamics are, she might not be as careful as she needs to be

this 100% she doesn't understand what is normal. it's a sad fact that child stars are often abused.

Exactly this. She's been steeped in all this since she was a child and so she thinks it's normal. And it's entirely possible her relationships with these people aren't quite the same as the people who have spoken out against them. They find her *useful* because she's a child star. Her fame brings them something and they don't want to damage that.

Yes....please Swoop....it would be awesome if you helped the voices that have been silent for too long in this situation 😢

I'd definitely be interested in hearing more about this!

@@sad.jackfr00t we spoke to a reporter there will be an article light surface level piece on it in a few months in the saint George Utah News paper and if you want to know anything I can answer from what I experienced and saw from early January 2013- late October of 2013.

@@sad.jackfr00t but that's if it goes through because a lot of the reports back out after the interviews!

Swoop please look into this ❤

no but literally,,, oh man.

if she ever does, i hope her pride doesnt get in the way of her healing because boy does she have a lot to do

And realizing how much of it is online. All the proof under her nose all the time.

@@zomb_bree7950 i don't think it's pride as much as it is denial

I feel like her pride will never allow her to make a statement after she realizes she too is a victim. Absolutely horrendous.

Really balanced and fair opinion, couldn't agree more.

She didn't get to be a kid, so she doesn't know this isn't what kids should be exposed to. It's almost sad, but she's willfully not listening to people who are trying to educate her...

@ville__ I’m not going to argue with you on her innocence or guilt regarding grooming, but either way her relationships with minors have been extremely inappropriate her entire career.

She’s a 20-yr old with a baby voice. Time to grow up.

Very valid point. Especially now that Jojo is becoming an adult herself.

@@merleginsbergofficialshe can’t, lord have mercy. She asked a question. She didn’t state something untrue. That’s the difference.

​@@merleginsbergofficiallet public figure Jojo Siwa try to take a private citizen to court for slander LOOOOOL. She'll not only lose because she doesnt have a case, she can be countersued 🤗

it makes me wonder if part of the reason Jo-jo is seemingly ok with what colleen did, is due to the way she was treated by almost all of the adults in her life growing up on dance moms

oof didn't think about that

I’m almost positive I remember Colleen saying this about jojo

I want Swoop to expose the Dance Mom producers and the production. Because I follow Kelly and Christ podcast “Back to the Barre and they also have a lot of bad things to say about the producers.

@@ayatsalameh4723agreed

Yes and if the parent didn’t act out of their minds, they didn’t last long - like the young male dancer - their mom didn’t play so they were not around long….

There's a video suggestion email in her about section on RU-vid

On some other video I saw was a old interview that Colleen had said Miranda was based on Trent. She laughed about how he use to be such a spoiled brat, and he would have a tantrum if he didn’t get his way. And it makes me really question about the whole situation.

@@Idontwant1 certainly makes you raise an eyebrow especially since miranda's abuser is her uncle, an older male relative. Colleen is the third child, Trent the oldest, with possibly a pattern of abuse, that Jessica won't allow her children around and had to question about his possible behavior towards them? just raises a possible theory I hadn't considered until now.

@@ichi3508 Not to be contrary but Trent is actually the second child. It goes Christopher, Trent, Colleen then Rachel. And yes you are so right about the Hater’s Back Off creepy Uncle. I hadn’t put that together until you wrote it. That falls into the category of ewww. And a while back in a vlog Colleen was at her parents house. And her Mom had gotten out a comic book illustrated by her Dad about this naughty little boy named Trent. And his baby sister Colleen. And the naughty (just plain weird things he use to do) I have a feeling that there is a lot more to come out about him. He had a whole new bunch of kids to try and get involved with after Colleen got famous. I know that he lived at his parents house. And he never has left home. I remember during a very short time he had his own place. Because I remember Christopher and Kory and Joshua and Rachel’s boyfriend helping to move him to his apartment. And then not even a month later he was back home. So that makes me think that he’s got more issues going on then just being hard of hearing. Because otherwise why wouldn’t he be living in his own home. For me I think it’s either he has some form of developmental disabilities or multiple disabilities OR his parents can’t trust him out on his own. I just can’t help but think that if he had issues. Why would Colleen or the parents allow him to chat on line with her teenage or younger fans. Why wouldn’t they put some sort of buffer between him being able to have full access and him having limited access. I mean I remember when my kids were in their teens. I had limitations put on our computer. I was allowed to put in 200 words that if they typed any of them or if the person they were talking to typed them. I got a notification telling me that whoever was on our computer typed one of the off limits words. Or that someone typed those words to them. It gave me the account number and the user name. And the kids didn’t know that the other person wasn’t seeing the word they typed in but a word I approved. Was that controlling yes. But I also didn’t want my kids being able to talk to people they had no business talking to.

@@Idontwant1 No not at all being contrary thank you for that correction, I mixed up that order & I believe esp. in an instance like this that is so serious and goes deeper than any of us know, its important to get these nuances correct. I had completely forgotten about that until you mentioned that vlog bout the comic book, but I vaguely remember that vlog as well which only further gives me just an awfully icky feeling about the possibilities here of just how deep this behavior may have run. I personally have suspicion that he is severely mentally disabled, not just hearing impaired, in fact to the point that it makes me wonder if he truly understands fully *why* family tells him not to speak to anyone under 18 to protect both them and him, someone mentally handicap enough to not grasp the serious wrongness of such an action. *edited to included* -Jessica's comment only further confirms that theory for me, her saying 'and I feel bad sharing even that' suggests there so much more not being relayed about the depths of his handicaps One of my main backing pieces of "evidence" so to speak for thinking he's possibly mentally retarded and well as the physical disabilities is one random vlog clip of colleen speaking about how cautious she was being about not coming into physical contact with others (fans mainly during her tours by hugging and such at meet'n'greets) while she was expecting. That her mother hadn't known better to be so careful and had ended up coming into contact with/contracting some kind of sickness while pregnant with Trent, and as a direct result the baby (trent) had ended up being born with some pretty severe mental and physical delays/issues. That she loved her brother (and her fans) dearly but wasn't going to be playing around with taking chances. As far as her family's responsibility to act as a buffer, that's a whole other can of possible worms lol. I know that the parents used to be before more involved in the church & whatever specific branch of religion (I believe some flavor of fairly strict new wave Christian at the time) when they were raising the kids, colleen has hinted at a few times just how controlling/ damaging their childhood was in terms of religion and how there has been an open dialogue between the children newly grown and the parents had reconciled apologized and since withdrew from the church/religion they had grown up in. That's important to note specifically because these kinds of religious households often will cover up serious abuse of a sexual nature especially, happening in the home, whether that be between siblings, cousins or creepy uncles, etc. Minimize outside knowledge of such events occurring and deal with it in/as a family, if it's dealt with at all other than ignoring or covering it up. Now while I do not believe her parents would've simply written it off for lack of care, I can see the kind of cognitive dissonance parents, especially relgious parents of a certain degree, may have when faced with the harsh realities of having a child so severely handicapped that you know full well they will become a disabled adult that will not be able to live a semblance of a 'normal' adult life and will forever be dependent on you, mentally and physically. How hard as a parent that must be, how hard on a mother who could easily blame herself for her son's impairments and lack of a normal future. The desire to allow/provide any little thing that can serve to give that child a semblance of control of their life. Now, those things should be heavilyyyyy heavily monitored be the parents (in this case access to group chats and interaction with other humans online) as you yourself mentioned blocking off certain words and things your own children had access to using and seeing online, which is entirely appropriate imo of ANY parent, but parental denial can be a hell of a thing. Especially of there was some form of guilt being harbored about abuse by there own child, severely handicapped or not, under their own home. that's a lottttt of possible guilt and shame to have to ask themselves to face and grapple with, so I could very easily see if there was some form of denial or disassociation there.

The police cannot act without the victims making an official report. It is entirely up to the victims to report it. Unfortunately, and this is the issue with covering active news stories, sometimes taking allegations on line before a report can actually negatively impact an investigation because of chain of custody and the different state laws about online Crimes. For sure, any of us could call in concerns but without the victims themself going forward it won't go anywhere.

This certainly doesn’t look like something that’s being swept under the rug. It’s been 4 months since she was last online and we are STILL talking about her.

Your comment speak for itselfs. "They shouldnt be cancelled - they should be arrested! - When internet making so many false storys about you, you need to stop for your own sake, your own health. She will coming back.

I mean, do you call countless videos and lost sponsorships sweeping it under the rug?

​@@kathleenschoultz not false stories but ok

Producers as well. They have more influence on what moments are shown.

She will either do that…or become a groomer herself and continue the cycle.

Ngl seems like Jojo’s been emotionally manipulated by her

I don't really like Jojo and I agree she is absolutely in the wrong here, but defending abusers is suuuuper common in victims. If they are defending their own abusers, then they will 100% defend any abuser that is similar, because it feels like the same thing. Because in the end its not the abuser they are defending; its their own denial of any abuse at all. One of the most common coping mechanisms out there are "its not that bad" or "it wasn't like that". Giving up that delusion is terrifying, because it means giving up the only thing that's making it all bearable

wait what? i watched this video days ago but i guess i left the tab open so i'm only now reading comments, but where did you get the idea Colleen makes Jojo uncomfortable? (i'm not disagreeing or even doubting you, i'm genuinely asking because i don't remember that being in here.) edit: i don't know a whole lot about Jojo Siwa, so maybe you just know something that i don't?

@@KansasNotTheBand no this person is incorrect Jojo says Colleen has done nothing but make her comfortable I think this commenter misheard or misunderstood? I don’t know but they aren’t correct in their comment

@@Kitkat_bar ohhhh ok, thanks for clarifying 🙂

Who is Trent

⁠@@Lizzyseyeballcolleens brother, trent ballinger

@@Lizzyseyeball One of Colleen's brothers

Colleen is probably making them more money so that's why it's okay to Jess lmao

Sorry to bother, who's Jess?

spot on❤️‍🩹

Exactly

absolutley!!!! could not have said this better myself. so true. :(

I couldn't figure out why I wasn't angrier with her for her behavior and you nailed it with this one.... this is exactly it. Her role models and protectors have failed her.

if you gotta comment this to every person- chances are your videos shit and made up :)@ville__

I just recently saw her on a tv show my mom was watching where she was crying and said she’d never been away from her mother… her mom is the reason she’s so immature she relied so heavily on jojo as emotional support.

@ville__ gurl is this Colleen’s family? I’ve never heard of you in my life and I watch all of Adam’s content, so clearly him and all the other victims are real bothered by you lol go watch some other video thats not criticizing your fav ✌🏻

^^^ this yes

this is all i can think about that girl needs THERAPY

Yep💯🎯‼️‼️‼️‼️

And she believes this is normal adult behavior. I honestly don’t trust that she could break that cycle if she begins to “mentor” people younger than her

This!! 💯

Abby as a whole should have a doc!! Dance Moms would be amazing

Very well said. I too am a DV and suffer with invisible illness. Prayers for you my friend. We shall get through this together.

Hopefully she comes to it that soon. I didn't get there until I was 41. Some don't get there until their 70's.

💯 needed.

THIS! 💯

I also suffer from Fibromyalgia and I had no idea she had made light of it until this video. Just another thing to add to the disappointment pile.

@@Lethalport1515me too!

I have fibromyalgia. I can say things to other that has it. People that just thinking sad of themselves. You will always live with the pain. You have 2 choices. Stay and be positive or Leave and be negative. Swoop is making fun of people. We all do. Just leave it! Colleen is a good human. Its very weird how people can believe a story so well. They believe a false person

​@@kathleenschoultzactually sweetie you can't. Not everyone deals with pain the same way. And the fact that you say there are two choices is just wild. You have no idea what someone else is going through even if you have the same condition. You can believe whatever you want about that "woman" but anyone who makes fun of people for a disability is not being a good person.

Like w sending Trisha’s pics 2 kids, Colleen gets off on taking innocence. It’s so vile and disgusting

That would be VERY weird, to show anyone especially almost a stranger your birth video. Like i know Coleen is obviously bad but like really, who does that?? Not to downplay Colleen's other actions, as this is def not the worst thing she's done. But it still feels especially bizarre

@ville__wow, 28 comments about this on this video…. I’m sure you’re definitely convincing people. Not. 😂😂😂

@ville__lmao you reek of desperation to get your video views 😂😂😂 nobody cares bro colleen is groomer cry about it

⁠I think they deleted it already too lol

Probably because he managed to get away from that family

Well now he's got merch so we'll see if that wasn't just a cash grab on his part.

@@Mila-Rosa Who cares?! As long as people take accountability, they are free to sell shirts I won’t buy…

for real. im freshly 20, most likely have autism, and i know how gross colleen, james, and shane dawson are 😐😐 and when she said "lesbian" was a dirty word..? i didnt think that at any point of my life, even before i knew i was queer at TWELVE 💀💀💀

I’m 14 and I can see that

​@@kaitlynmorgan4613the "lesbian" thing is real but only in really left wing communities and it's specifically because a large number of lesbians are really transphobic and biphobic to the point where 2/3 popular lesbian flags being either fully co-opted (the labrys flag) or created (the lipstick lesbian flag) by bigots

This is a horrible take. Jojo was groomed as a child.

@@lmnopeepeepoopoo okay? Still not an excuse to collab with child predators.

Seriously!

fr

The pictures were not porno. It was nude photos that 300 pound Trisha had posted HERSELF, online. Colleen only forwarded them, as comedy. There is nothing sexy about a 300 pound woman. How can anyone think it was more than a joke? And, Adam is gay, so it makes no difference anyway, no matter how the woman looked.

@@craigharmon9494? Excuse me? No matter what, as a child you don‘t want nor should be exposed to nudes who are in this case from a sexworkers page, whom first made money with them so they are by default sexual in nature, because that‘s exactly why they were taken. And second GAY BOYS ALSO DON‘T want to see naked woman. You can not decide for them if they are uncomfortable with it or not. And he has spoken about it, so we know he wasn‘t indifferent. He didn’t want them. That just doesn‘t make sense. You can not decide for everybody what is explicit content for them. It’s also against the law, which tells you that it IS a big enough problem to make it punishable by law.

@@craigharmon9494 kinda rude and obnoxious for U to say that. U need a reality check fr... 1. Porn pics ARE nude pics, 2. I never mentioned the pics were porn, I just said that they were explicit (which they were), 3. Trisha Paytas is a pornstar, THATS LITERALLY HER JOB! 4. There is nothing wrong with putting nude pics out there on the internet (as long as children can't access them), 5. They were sent to Adam McIntyre when he was 14 YEARS OLD (A MINOR), 6. It doesn't matter if Adam is gay or not it's still wrong and can still be traumatizing for a child, 7. People have different preferences. U may find skinny people sexy but others don't see that and find curvy or even really overweight people sexy. Your preference in women is not relevant to the arguments U are making. Read the elephant in the room!

Also may I add, that not funny. Making fun of someone's body isn't funny and what even less funny is traumatizing children and breaking the law

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@craigharmon9494wrong. And your heinous comment is absolutely disgusting. Sending explicit (nude photos of either gender, and/or photos/videos which depict sexual activities or situations) to a minor is absolutely illegal. It is 100% pornographic material. Doesn’t matter where the explicit material came from, who originally took the photos/videos, or who originally distributed the explicit material. It’s still explicit aka pornographic. The audacity of you to think so fucking highly of yourself that you actually believe that YOU, craig harmon, not being attracted to the individual in the photo is somehow the standard by which a photo is deemed pornographic/explicit or not….is downright appalling. Similarly, the sexual orientation of the photo recipient does not matter. If Colleen had sent Adam explicit images of men, it would be just as problematic as it is that she sent Trisha’s explicit images, and just as problematic as it would be if she sent explicit images of any other woman. All nudity is explicit when you’re sending the images to a CHILD. I’ll say it again for you, but slowly…. ***ALL NUDITY IS EXPLICIT WHEN YOU’RE SENDING THE IMAGES TO A CHILD***. Craig’s ability to pop a chub when viewing the material isn’t the variable that defines the images as explicit/pornographic or not. What a weird fucking take my guy 😆

Thanks for sharing it hopefully you are better place now

​@@moonbook12anywhere is better than where I was ❤ thank you for your positivity

@@LeahInTheRye you're welcome, I'm so happy that you're in better place

I’m in the process of helping a very close friend of mine get out of an abusive relationship as well and this is definitely something that has had to be taken into account. :( it’s on ongoing struggle for them to keep their focus without back stepping.

​@WTFM definitely! You keep thinking your abuser was right, you're blowing things out of proportion, maybe it wasn't that bad etc. Thank you for being there for your friend. You're a gem of a person ❤

The victims also literally have her number lol

Funny how she can separate how inappropriate it is when it happens to her on dance moms but the lines get blurred when it’s being done to other ppl by someone she likes .

Agree totally. The adults she’s been surrounded by, forever, aren’t the caliber I’d want surrounding my child. She’s got SO much maturing to do still, she’s yet to acknowledge her own traumas, let alone anyone else’s. Her view on life is totally skewed…in the wrong direction.

That is insane. Everyone has friends, and, people they don't like. By your rules, everyone in the world is a groomer. For example, you are trying to groom the people reading this, so they will share your ideas, and hate Colleen. Stop grooming. Let people think for themselves.

@@craigharmon9494 tf you’re talking about? stop turning op’s comment into something it’s not. are you that naive to think jojo is just defending a "friend"? colleen has been known to send her underage fans online to defend her before. that’s what she’s doing with jojo.

@@craigharmon9494 Abusers don't abuse every single person they meet. They pick and choose very carefully which people they are going to use and which people they are going to keep a great face to so that they have defenders if allegations ever come up. 12 year olds cannot be 'friends' with someone in their 30s. Aside from the age difference, there is a power dynamic such as fame and money. Jojo still clearly idolises Colleen. Colleen gets more fame from collaborating with Jojo, she gets introduced to Jojo's VERY young fanbase, and gets more money and fame out of it.

I’m glad you’ve never been put in a position to have to understand the above comment. Truly, living it first hand is a special kind of hell, and the commenter is absolutely objectively correct. Please just be grateful you’ve never HAD to understand this and accept that you don’t know what you don’t know. Wishing you all the best.

@@griftymose1998 Who is your comment for? It defaulted to me, but you might want to add a tag because it is confusing for whom you meant that message.

Honestly, it's probably a mixture of both

Likely both honestly

It is absolutely both. If you are raised to believe what you are doing will Make or Break the entire family, especially as young as Jojo, you were groomed. Period. You were manipulated into believing that every single action you take has a life or death impact on your life, and the lives of EVERYONE around you. That also means when others use that brand of manipulation later, you are more likely to accept and handle it "appropriately," which translates directly into "in favor of the abuser/manipulative." This means that back and white depictions of logic will also sound CORRECT.

That's the issue with digital media - even if something is posted openly, it's very easy for an abusive creator to get their victims to hide the weird stuff under wraps so that parents don't cotton on until it's too late. I find it hard to justify really throwing the book at the parents of the kids Colleen hurt. Ultimately, it's on the woman who did these things to face consequences for them.

Toddlers and Tiaras too

THIS!!!!!!!!!!! DANCE MOMS DOC!!!!!!

That’s most celebrities nowadays

I met a nice woman on an mmo when I was a kid, she brought me into her guild and I met her boyfriend. As we played and had our toonami nights (we'd just hang out on call while watching) we got to know each other. They became semi parental figures, the boyfriend even showed me the ring he intended to propose with a week before he proposed. It was nice seeing what a good relationship looked like and it gave me hope during the awkward teen years. Knowing this horrible stage won't last and it'll eventually be my turn to build a happy life with my future love. They also saved me from making quite a few mistakes. It's one thing for your mom to tell you not to do something but another to hear a cool 20-something say "I know you think it's a good idea, I did too but here's why it didn't end well for me." Now that I'm as old as they were I can see the healthy boundaries they had with me because it's not really something you notice when you're 12.

​@katrinascarlet5637 right? There is a difference between a mentor and a groomer. I just heard about this. Was there sexual acts involve or did she take advantage of these kids? I'm only a few minutes in on this.

Her mother is the monster, her dad divorced Jessalyn over the way she was using their kid.

Yeah... it makes me wonder who's managing her career and doing PR. She obviously grew up without normal boundaries and role models, but at this point she should care about maintaining her career.

@@CrowT87 Or just herself. Like Colleen I can kind of understand. They met when she was really young, she’s a woman, so the danger senses don’t go off typically, but people like Shane?? Like he could have hurt her or something. No one on her team or herself was like maybe we shouldn’t do that?

Yup. It’s all normal to her. One will eventually get use to the smell of trash if you are stuck with it. It is when you take a breath of fresh air when you go “ holy shoot this stinks 😷 “. She still has not had that moment.

@@jocypare6019 I guess I just don’t understand how she can see the crap they’ve done even with how she grew up and act like they’ve done nothing wrong. With Colleen I understand because that’s a different situation but with others? I don’t get it, does she and her team just ignore the many screenshots, videos, and other evidence?

@@HaidebugCreates they don’t consider it evidence. That’s the problem.

Same! I'm glad I saw the notification as I was leaving work or it could've been an awkward situation 😅

Well, yes and no. When talking about perps and how people will treat rich perps vs poor perps? Ohhhhh yeah. You're speaking the truth. But Colleen and other adults grooming and manipulating JoJo did start when JoJo was 12 and it went on for years. This DOES deal with her being a kid then, and still only being an adult with adult freedom and responsibilities for a couple of years, and that's a lot to unpack. Swoop herself says that it took her many years to realize what happened to her.

Wait what did Todrick do? I love his music 😔

Don’t forget Abbie Lee miller lol

@@cloakedpeach from what I've heard he's just as bad as the rest of them but I don't really have any details

I agree however, silence only supports the abuser.

Absolutely nothing is helped, by idle gossip. In this case, the gossipers are the ones at fault.