The College Board Monopoly on Education 

I had the same prompt and was thinking the exact same thing!

We need a Teddy Roosevelt but for College Board.

GET YOUR BIG STICKS!

And in AP micro (like the video said). My micro exam’s tomorrow...really hoping for a monopoly question, ‘cause I can think of a reeeeal good example for ‘em

nice pfp

Me too dude go on Change.org and sign as MANY petition as you can to get these greedy fucks out.

We all do.

Nah Pearson's the real company we should go after

@@mbraxt11 Let's just get rid of both lmao

I can’t stand them. It’s sad that for the sake of money, people are willing to exploit kids for profit.

"We surveyed 20,000 students and they all wanted to take the exam". Sure they did

I absolutely hate them. Trump should honestly think of killing all funding to them, meaning they will finally start having competition.

I’m kind of indifferent tbh, AP tests got me out of taking a bunch of classes I don’t want to take in college and this saved me more money than what I spent to take the tests. And I took the ACT rather than the SAT. Despite me not really having any issues with them, what they do is still really scummy.

Top Frog If anything they’re funding Trump

Caleb Smith yeah I agree, the AP tests saved me a lot of time and money in college. But the SATs, PSATs, fuck those. FUUUUUCCCKKKK THOOOOSSSEEE. The common app?? FUUCCKKK THAT

It would be funny if it didnt hurt so bad

AP tests are $90 because big daddy Trevor Packer wants a new yacht.

"Server fees"

I knowwww. I took international APs this year (which have an entrance fee that is double the cost of US tests for a nonexistent reason), meaning that my family had to spend hundreds of dollars on 45 minute single question exams that in no way reflected the work I've done over the year.

​@@hanae9742 Exactly, entire year worth of work accessed based on one question!! Tell this to any reasonable people they will find it hard to believe. And the sad part is how the victims (high school students) have little power or influence to resist. Once people get into college the whole thing becomes irrelevant.

Omg this is what I think EVERYDAY. Stupid old men are steering futures of the young people in the world. Really pisses me off.

This is America...

It would be nice to be the owner of college board tho

@Alex Ox. Or a genocide

@@itsohaya4096 Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. Covid 19 narrative is designed for MASS GENOCIDE by FORCED VACCINATIONS. Oh and Bill Gates also dumbed us down with STANDARDIZED TESTING.

Hojin Chang it’s because of over saturation in the market

THE DEVIL WORKS HARD BUT COLLEGE BOARD WORKS HARDER!!! 😈

Hojin Chang and that wont happen in any other economy right

@@ilynxch Yes, because communism is so much better...

@@ziinx5899 I like how you have no actual rebuttal at all.

i just graduated form college and never heard of that, and dead laughing. such a scam

I imagine an extremely staticky voice bursts onto the phone, mumbles something unintelligible, then clicks off. "To hear the message again, press 1."

Michael Tkaczevski "insert another quarter"

jdrod08 hjj

The definition of monopoly has to change, if two companies divide the country into territories and don't compete against each other then there is no competition and they are basically regional monopolies, this is why i hate politics, a 4 year old could understand whats wrong with this but politicians always chose not to rock the boat.

Hah! Jokes on you!! My test is actually two questions!!!

@@slig4656 part a-l, a-h

Andrew Herndon let me guess chemistry 😂😂

And buying study packs at the start of the year makes you question life

Ridiculous.

They shouldve cancelled the fuckin tests

My friend couldn’t even submit her test. This was before the whole “email collegeboard” thing started today, so even though she finished all of it, she has to take it again.

I will have a PTSD on this.....

@@SK-tr1wo People had the option not to take it and get their money back... they knew the risks, it was their choice.

PsychicF no! They have to take it because they want college credit, and they’ve been working on that subject for a year! Stop saying we had a choice, we really didn’t.

Yep they took our money and reduced it to two questions with no refund

Yeah and I just took my AP Physics exam

Do you have to pay for pearson? Bc for me anyways its free but a trash website that literal highschool students could code better

The college board offered refunds on their website (though it did take a week for them to get processed)

At least my school covers ap costs. One of the lucky few.

Yu Xin good

That's because you pay taxes to your government, not the US one (which spends some of that money funding things like standardized testing companies.

morgengabe1 So why then in every country there is the same doubled price in all countries no matter on the actual tax value there (in some countries this type of tests is not taxed at all)?

why are you taking sat tests or ap tests if your not in america, you can avoid them if your not in america.

Justin Seckel To get into US universities...like the Ivy-Leagues

"A fool and his money are soon parted." Just because one is out to scam doesn't mean you should go along with it.

@@AAA-kh6qi For an engineer yeah depending on thr field but in the cade of computing or graphic design there are enough resources to get the same amount of value that a college would offer it still helps but its just not required to be successful in the field.

Don Cheeto The cost is rising because the government is subsidizing students more and more- colleges know students can then pay a higher price and so the colleges demand more. That, and bureaucratic BS. How many construction projects are going on at each campus? How much do they cost? Now how many increase the value of your education?

@G G Bruh my school teaches liberal values and it's absolutely free lol

Wait, your schools aren’t publicly owned? I’m actually shocked

Literally all of that's profit. They have all of the tests ready for next year and they definitely put little money in their servers. The only money spend would have been on having many different questions for each test.

haha, wait until you discover the AP world languages tests: 2 oral questions, 15 minutes, shitty app, same price

I took AP French this year. The exam was 2 spoken response questions, twenty minutes total. About 15 of those minutes was listening to directions.

You also forget outdated server where students had technical difficulties.

Wait so you have to pay to take AP classes? I took APES 2020 as a Junior and I didn't pay a thing.

Yep, you have to pay to send them. It’s ridiculous. Getting into college is very expensive, and it puts students who aren’t well off (like me) at a disadvantage. You have to pay $94 for an AP exam, $50-$65 for an SAT depends on if you want an essay or not, pay money to send scores, pay for an SAT prep course if you want one, and then pay to apply to colleges!! Its absolutely ridiculous

@@willow3198 And you now see that college is a debt trap. Also, research what Bill Gates did with Standardized testing.

Kali Krause I’ve been working hard for scholarships so hopefully I won’t have as much debt as others

For most cases you only send them to the school you enroll in, not all of the schools you applied to

Jarvis Grazio ohhhh ok

MrHatoi hahaha im pretty sure half the comment section is. I’m just glad my broke ass school pays for my AP classes. Thanks College Board for contributing to the lack of money for my school!

Well I’m in 2021

What happened

@@aliramadan6179 the AP exam costed alot and only had 1 or 2 questions.

@@lucascorey7716 no offense but that's the most naive thing I've heard in a while.

Lucas Corey that’s pretty naive

They make the tests free for low income students, so that isn't an issue.

​@@patrickwu4524 yeah only if you're eligible for the fee waiver even then some of the push students who are low income weren't able to get it from their counselors. at least at my school, we have to get the form from the counselors

Actually colleges, like ivies, look for students that made the most out of the resources they have. If there’s only two ap classes at their school and they took those two and did well that’s a really good sign for colleges

cassenav this year the AP tests are 1 question. Literally 1 question. I paid $600 for one question. And then once I take it I have to pay them to use it

@@RahulSingh-sg1bu Are you serious? I'm shocked and disappointed.

@@RahulSingh-sg1bu nah fam 2 questions with lots of sub questions.

Andrew V depends on the test

@MAKENA WINKIEL oh my chem and calc test was 2 parts with up to 13 sub questions each.

The problem with that is Khan academy sold out to the college board so u can't trust them anymore.

sonicx7410 yup

sonicx7410 any alternatives ?

college board is affiliated with khan academy

Well I have got the recent paranoia for free services online... mean the whole Google, facebook, Ubuntu, Firefox cases. So whenever I hear someone say sold-out I jump into the *find-alternatives Bandwagon. Anyway I searched for alternatives to Khan but couldn't find an all under one umbrella like wholesome one. Hope more will come up in the future. And if I ever get a job I'll surely donate to Khan because I've had enough of double faced free services lately. I'm indebted to the free stuff I use daily but arrogant and stubborn anyway.

Exactly. They wanted to keep the money so bad. At least refund half of the money since we're not going to be writing in booklets and the test is not even an hour long.

They say they conducted a survey to see if people wanted to take the tests.... I haven't heard of any such survey

@The Ancestor Bro, when I did my test the damn thing didn't submit and now I gotta go through this shit all over again in 2 weeks... I love writing DBQs in 45 minutes...

as someone taking ap psych the online tests are a straight up 'fuck you.' I've been studying 1 year for multiple choice questions then they change it into 14 free response questions even tho we were only supposed to have 2 in the bigger exam. Nice 14 essays in 50 minutes, and cant get a refund...

@@mazloum3522 Wait, how do you know its 14? I thought it was just going to be 2 FRQs in the AP Psychology exam

He looks like a stawrbaby pimp

I am planning on being an architect and a writer. But....I am probably never going to college. Not with my numbers. Apprenticeships are the only way I can make it unless I have that TV moment where I say something wicked smart, but I'm an assistant or something, and they suddenly hire me or ask me to help on a project. lol. Not to mention, in an office environment I will probably have to work twice as hard since I am guessing architecture is a pretty male-dominated field, and the world has yet to change. What shi**y times these be.

We get a fee waiver

At least with the SAT, juniors in my district were mandated to take a free SAT during the school day. It was the similar with AP tests (reduced cost) and I know other districts with a lot of low income students do the same, outside of college board fee waivers

MG222 Colleges don't need your intelligence and that's not a problem. That's one thing good on their side

I guess "Academic ability" would be a better term. Colleges want people who will succeed so that when they get jobs they give the colleges money. The SAT doesn't measure that either.

Well what alternative would you propose? How do you measure intelligence? Your argument that it doesn't measure college ability has no evidence either. When you composite GPA and SAT score there's a correlation of r=0.64 (this is a really good predictor) If you're strapped for time and resources, the SAT actually gives a good job of showing an objective measure.

Nelson Vargas if the SAT and your GPA measures your intelligence than why does the guy who I graduated with and got a top 97% SAT score and a 4.0 work at my local grocery store? And the guy I went to school with who finished top 90 and with a 3.5 now owns a multi-million dollar company? Where’s your precious correlation there bud

MG222 The problem is the SAT does not measure academic ability. Despite the videos focus on grade inflation, high GPA has been shown in a number of studies to be a better predictor of success in college than a student's SAT score. This is part of the reason for elite colleges in the US become test optional.

The videos you've linked make no good arguments for why the school system is broken. First define a metric in which you think makes the school system broken.

Nelson Vargas how do they make no good? Maybe you don't want to accept the truth. And what do you mean by a metric. Do you mean a number? Sorry, but the world is not built around numbers. Just do some research into human psychology and you will see how broken this system is, too the point it is creating a horrible society

Nelson Vargas "make me think". This is not a opinion, it is a fact. 100 years ago, if I tried to tell people about global warming, they would say "it's just your opinion" Now global warming is agreed as a fact.

Hear me out, I'm not trying to antagonize you; I want to share my perspective. Sorry this is long, I just wanted to explain my points. I'll address your global warming and metrics comment later on in the comment. Okay, from your linked videos and comments, it seems that you are supporting a combination of three things: 1. You want kids to enjoy school 2. You want test scores national and international to go up on underachieving first world countries like the US and parts of England 3. You want kids to develop creativity and critical thinking 1) So for this conversation, I'm using SK and Finland as definitions of 'good schools' from the fact that they ranked among the top 5 in PISA and TIMSS and that they are very different from each other geographically and culturally. What percentage of students report that they enjoy school? About one third for both SK and Finland. How about the US? About Half. American students report liking school way more than high achieving countries but an average of 12% drop out nationally (there's a lot of variance between schools in America so keep that in mind with this statistic and this is minus the transfer and incompletion rate). The dropout rate in Finland is 1% and dropout rate in SK is 3%. How do you reconcile that kids like school more in the US but dropout at higher rates? These are rigorous courses, as Daniel Kahneman said, "thinking is hard" and we avoid every instance of it that we can. No one enjoys grinding but schools that are most successful must perform hard tasks. American schools are not hard, believe me- actually you don't have to, look at the UC San Diego Annual Freshmen Study and you can believe where the evidence points. I went to a private school in Philippines which gave me an excellent education but I would not say it was enjoyable. Hard work is not enjoyable; these education reformers want too sugarcoat education and trick students into believing everything will be fun if you just like going to school enough. 2) So I'm not exactly sure if you support standardized national/international scores but your argument wouldn't hold if you didn't support their finding. The education reform movement BEGAN when NAEP, TIMSS, and PISA scores said that American and British students were in decline measured against previous generations' scores and the scores of other countries. The new wave of education reform was existentialist to say the least. They wanted to change the metrics by which we judge academic success while also improving on the scores of those metrics. Does that make sense to anyone? P *Now to address your comment on metrics and numbers. I'm a little confused because of your global warming and your psychology statement. You are certainly right that there is more to life than numbers but numbers are the closest you are going to get to the truth which is how we can prove global warming (temp. data over time) but then you denounce metrics because of psychology? Psychologists must use numbers to support ANYTHING they claim. do not take this point lightly. My analytics professor once quoted some guy I forgot his name, "Data without theory is trifle, theory without data is bullshit." Psychologists sample and find the central limit to a population (numbers), measure IV and DV and control the rest (numbers), perform hypothesis testing and regression analysis (numbers). Every science NEEDS data, otherwise it wouldn't be science and we'd be approaching an issue with simply how we feel about it which is what's happening with the global warming 'debate'. 3) So the critical thinking and creativity argument I agree with. I agree with reformers that there is more need for it in schools but not the way they are advertising it. So I'm using Ken Robinson's RSA school model. They have performed worse than traditional schools on standardized tests because there is a glaring lack of structure in their curriculum. Reading, writing, and math are not sexy but they are fundamental. The project structure of RSA schools has kids going off in the blind doing their own research and projects without the necessary prior knowledge to help them 'think deeply'. My abbreviated answer to your arguments are as follows 1) Students and teachers must accept that thinking and studying at a level that is meaningful is hard work. We mustn't sugarcoat education to a model that promises eternal enjoyment and passion of the subject which is not to say we shouldn't encourage engagement and fun curriculum, I'm advocating that rigorous courses are realistically challenging and they need some serious mental labor. 2) Objective measures are imperfect but they give us something to improve upon. Intangibles are just that, qualities that can't be measured but that is not to say they aren't important, they just can't be operated on scientifically speaking. Without data, it's the legally blind leading the blind. If we get rid of objective measures, then this ceases to be a productive argument. 3) Creativity and critical thinking are best with prior knowledge, good instruction, and rigorous curriculum. The traditional lecture style and homework may appear archaic but they have been proven effective for our measures (Refer to Hattie's meta-analysis). Please read it with an open mind; I spent a lot of time doing this instead of my homework. If you have any critiques please tell. This was a lot but I just wanted a place to voice my perspective because Education/Public Policy is eventually a domain I'm planning to pursue for my career. For any of my claims, if you want a source, ask and I'll scavenge them on scihub, I would post them now but I'm strapped for time.

Nelson Vargas just to mention, I live in england. The idea that "you have to work hard" to succeed in school is a shell this system is hiding behind. School isn't hard - it is boring. It is so boring it starts becoming hard. I am currently in the UK's schooling system, and my least favourite subjects are languages like German and French. I find it boring and tedious, and yet if I try, I can easily accomplish the work, and even more if I wish. But I rarely try since it is not interesting. I am pretty sure this is true for others, since a lot of people in my school have felt the same. However, I go to a "grammar school", a type of school where you have to take standardized tests to enter, and the people there are supposedly of " high intelligence". So I could see why my view could be biased. But from my experience, the people there are hardly more intelligent at all. They can't grasp more complex concepts that are out of schools reach and have no curiosity what so ever. All they are good at is mechanically spitting out information they revised onto a test paper. You assume that these reformists want a "sugar coated education", whereas this assumption comes from a belief that humans are not natural learners. Search up the " hole in a wall " experiments (www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_shows_how_kids_teach_themselves). This is a amazing study, showing how powerful the human mind is. He has made more videos on that, even furthering his pool of evidence. And you mention metrics. Well there are not many, but you can find loads of articles and videos saying "why do kids find school boring" or "why do kids hate school", already based around the assumption that kids find schooling boring. (Here is one metric by the telegraph: www.telegraph.co.uk/education/secondaryeducation/4297452/School-is-boring-and-irrelevant-say-teenagers.html). And I woudn't be suprised either. Nearly every single person I know finds school boring. Not too mention, there are multiple other problems that I haven't mentioned about school yet (e.g. lack of self - discipline, never taught anything relevant to real life, the way the schooling system works essentially being a monarchy, not a democracy, the lack of belief in children - leading to children believing they are incompetent until they become adults, homework invading your free time with no proven advantage, suppression of kids real passion's, e.t.c) EDIT: Hundred years ago, there were no metrics proving global warming. Did that mean global warming was false? Just because governments and exam & curriculum boards are suppressing this fundamental error in society, leading to not many people doing studies on it, does not mean it is false EDIT 2: Please don't use standardized testing as a metric. It doesn't work and does not show intelligence. All standardized testing is is the ability to memorize some useless facts and throw them onto a piece of paper. Nothing else. Also, curriculums are not useful. Children can pursue what they like and will learn basic necessities through experience and surroundings. Just look into how Sudbury school kids fared. Actually, thinking about it, that is also another good metric. When some Sudbury school kids where surveyed after schooling, none of them said they would have rather gone to a conventional school. EDIT 3: Scihub seems "academic". Doesn't look trustworthy in terms of school system facts EDIT 4: "It can be difficult to understand Sudbury schools before you have spent some time in one. These schools have a lot of structure, but not of an obvious kind - especially if you are used to the academic achievement-oriented structures of traditional schooling" (www.didyoulearnanything.net/about/sudbury/) EDIT 5: www.educationfutures.org/outcomes.htm Double edged sword, this source. One edge says biased (the fact that this article is written by someone who founded Sudbury schooling), other edge says resourceful (the fact that this person has had experience with lots of Sudbury school graduates)

Aiden G i highly disagree. AP exams are more difficult than a college class. It would’ve just been better to take college classes while I was in high school. And $36 to send a one-digit number to a couple of colleges? That seems ridiculous

I took three AP classes, which is fewer than most of my peers. And no one ever got anything from it but a few grey hairs.

My high school pays for everyone that wants to take an ap exam.

Well, if not free, they surely shouldn't cost so much! Forget about the classes, the AP exams themselves cost 90 USD! That's insane. Also, APs again function as requirements for Ivy Leagues!

I think ap tests are worth it. Yeah they cost a lot of money but it's nothing compared to how much that class would cost in college

Woo. Go us. *weeps in lack of $98 refund bc I cant get one. (my 2 projects count as my whole score.) even though they cancelled my test*

It's a completely different story for students who don't live in the USA

@@Telest0 I know. I'm an international student too

What, you expect them to make sure it runs on your windows 98 platform?

@@Turtle-.- No, I expect it to run on a Windows 10 computer and the up to date version of Chrome, which is the recommended browser, and the same one that I used on the demo test without issue.

@@ap-pv7ug Probably did have outdated browsers... I took 8 tests with them and didn't have a problem on a single one.

@@Turtle-.- Most people, like you, didn't have any problems, but far too many exams had issues for this to be a problem on the students' end. I submit files online for school, and otherwise use my computer with the exact same browser, and never encountered the issue where buttons just didn't respond when you click them. Besides, if somehow, the current version of Google Chrome is not compatible with the test (despite the fact that that is the recommended browser) the demo test that everyone took should have caught that. Either way, the College Board built a faulty system.

@@ap-pv7ug You make a good point about the demo test. The demo tests definitely should have caught any potential errors on the student's end regarding versions of Chrome considering that it should have been the same system for the test, except the actual test had the questions for the specific AP. Are you sure people that ran into this problem tried the demo though? What if the demo did actually catch this stuff, but those guys didn't do the demo. I see your point though.

Just make sure you're registered to vote in the primaries, as a member of whichever party if necessary.

Same. College board is filthier than FIFA & the British East India Company. I don’t know how.

you’re a year early😂

It be like dat with the whole online ap tests there have been a ton of glitches with submission that are the college board’s fault, but kids are being forced to do the makeup in June. Fortunately my Lit essay submitted but I know people who had a stable wifi and working computer but they would press the submit button while nothing happened and time slowly ran out. Many people are really pissed that college board continued to have the tests simply so they wouldn’t have to refund people. Not to mention international students having to take them at times like 2am because all tests are taken at 1EST. I’m currently praying my statistics test this friday goes through... Sorry for the VERY lengthy response lol it’s just been a disaster

@takedowncollegeboard instagram

You're only half-correct, if that. There's no real currency of intelligence, IQ is a sham, and it never should be about that. And while education is important to furthering your education, these tests aren't supposed to help you learn. They're to provide colleges with results on how you can fare in an academia environment. And if you think the slip of paper makes you better, you deserve jail time. That being said, society is becoming more and more advanced at an astronomical rate, and the jobs of the future (the future 5 years from now) will likewise require more and more qualified people. So this "never gonna need to know" shtick becomes more and more ignorant as time goes on. And of course I feel the need to say monopolies suck and college board has no right to sap as much money as it does. If I had reign of the government, I would force collegeboard to halve prices or get taxed ridiculously as the for-profit organization it is. Probably by providing a more affordable government alternative. But I really wish everyone would cut the crap about "ehhhhh all education is about playing the game and doesn't care about how smart you truly are". Selectivity is not a bad thing and there do need to be set criteria to determine who gets in and who gets out. College does not have the time, money, nor will to individually develop every single special snowflake.There are certain base guidelines they want to set for prospectives, and certain things they want to achieve with them. College can not hold everyone, and it doesn't have to.

@@amytg777 Exactly IQ and IQ tests are a scam honestly like some questions are like "If club 1 exerts 200N of force on a ball and club 2 900, find the amount of club 3 will apply" and I'm saying this even though I got an IQ range of 120 and 140 in one of their tests.

only for the slim chance you'll actually succeed with that paper

Colleges over here are all for the profit of themselves, not for higher learning.

Wolves bandwagon fan since 1998 So it's cheaper than some other overpriced thing...?

america, fuck yea....

That doesn't make a good argument when you consider how expensive college is where you live, defending the U.S. when it comes to education is defending void.

College should be free, that would produce a return on investment of $70+ lost on a dumb standardized test.

You just made me realize how old this video was, I thought it was posted recently.

It probably popped up into the algorithm because of the massive fuckup that was AP Exams this year.

@@droidbot6284 True.

True.

Still

did you register for the retake?

@@riglancer5473 Yeah.

It still sucks though, now you gotta study for another month to make sure that knowledge stays fresh for the retake, honestly, I hope for your sake that there won't be any issues, however, it wouldn't be unexpected

Just turn it in on time...

@@Turtle-.- Kip failed to turn it in on time because the server that handles submissions was overwhelmed with requests and couldn't handle them all therefore some of the submissions failed to go through to College Board. In other words, it's a lot harder to "just turn it on time" than one might think.

Can the School that you go to cover your costs? Do a Go fund me!!!!

Can you not get a fee waiver

Cody Fan eh I don't really see why someone would want to donate tbh. I'm pretty pessimistic at times so it might just be me but I doubt anyone would donate haha

Wolves bandwagon fan since 1998 There are some school districts that pay for the AP, PSAT, SAT, and ACT exams in areas that are low-income.

fuck this As far as I know, $53 is the lowest they go except for districts where they pay for the costs due to it being a low-income area.

Nah it’s pretty common, especially if teachers are too easygoing and grade inflation is a problem in that area.

@@ashleygarcia5915 exactly, in AP Chem I got a 97.9% and a ONE on the exam…

@@deleted-user-82u3ht92it also depends on how hard you work. If you just do the material in the class to prep then you won’t do well on the exam. You are supposed to use what the teacher teaches as a supplement to outside studying

You don't have Duel Enrollment? It's like AP with no test but the credits are only for state schools. No one takes them though because AP credits are more useful.

J Warrior they’re very useful if you’re going to an in state school lol

J Warrior My school has around 1400 students. We have 1 dual enrollment class, it’s a half-year Economics class that gets you credit at the local community college.

Same issue here, we only have APs and SAT

Same here. The magnet school I go to makes some AP classes mandatory, so we don't get a choice in what our classes should be.

I have ADHD, and I feel you.

Although I don't have ADHD, I do have moderate to severe eczema, and I usually break out in rashes when I'm stressed out, so everytime I take a major exam such as the SAT, I can't focus because my skin is burning to scratch.

I have ADHD too, but I studied and studied and studied some more. My score ended up being 1580 out of 1600, and that is with no accommodations. Yes it is harder for us, but not impossible. You just gotta study.

I don’t have ADHD, but I’m a Junior in university and my major is Chemical Engineering. So, I’ll say this: the ACT/SAT are garbage. They focus on Math, Science, English, and Literature of all things. All I’ve ever had to do with English is write a couple of papers for some prerequisites, so I don’t know why they’d focus on that. I have not read a single book since starting university. Even textbooks for assignments, you just end up skimming it. Literature is a worthless subject in high school. The ASVAB is a far superior test that tests more types of knowledge than those four and also recommends career types best suited for your academic strengths. Why not just use the ASVAB instead of the SAT/ACT? Once you get into university, your score on the SAT/ACT become meaningless. I only got a 25 out of 36 on mine and I’m on President’s List, meanwhile I have friends of mine that made like 32/36 on the ACT and flunked out in the first semester. Again, why do colleges use these as indicators? They’re horrible indicators

@@aaronlandry3934 As bad as an indicator they might be, it is still the best indicator when you look at other options. Take GPA for example. My school has very little grade inflation and grade incredibly hard (only the top 20% of the class get above a 3.00GPA). Meanwhile, a public school across the street had huge grade inflation where most of the students were receiving 4.0's because, get this, students could retake tests as many times as they wanted. From a college perspective, that school's 4.0 would look better than my school's 2.8. That's hardly fair. Instead, colleges use SAT and ACT as a form of a standard to determine how smart someone is. There is no subjection involved. This was more accurate as my school's average sat was 1490 out of 1600 and the public school across the street's average was 1070.

Same. Literally the day before my second SAT that I had studied for months for, corona shut down everything.

Same, it was even at a time when our state (Texas) had no deaths, and everyone showed up to the school since they did such a poor job informing us it was cancelled

K Homiak This happened to me as well, for my first SAT. Literally the first day Covid closed things down was my SAT day LOL. I actually studied for once haha, I wanted to do better than my PSAT of 1210 (though I think that number is higher when you convert it to regular SAT).

Some colleges are being test optional. Most of the colleges I am looking at are. Email the counselors and see if they changed

wait there arent any more dates right now right?

Sajan Patel i was one of those forced ones. It was especially awful and nerve wracking bc I just got into a whole new school with around 5 of my old friends who barely spoke to me bc 4 of them became juul users. One didn’t but was constantly gone for sports so I was basically alone. I knew no one in the class and had to turn around and pay $98 for a test I wouldn’t even get to take. Now the “portfolio” they assigned is our whole score. With no refund if you want said score.

Yup and at my school if you don't sign up they pull you aside and try to persuade you to join. It's very forceful and uncomfortable it makes you feel like you have to do it. It's worked 2 years for me

Yeah, and I had to pay extra on one of my AP tests this year bc my teacher didn't know our money had to be sent in earlier this time... So we ended up paying $134 for one test. -_-

Study for the test then. You knew what you were signing up for when you registered to take the exam.

To be fair, why the hell would you take an AP class if you aren't going to put in all the work studying.

This is so weird for non-americans lol

You're very lucky. I don't go to school in the States but I'm trying for Ivies. I'll have to pay for all my APs myself--only about 3 schools here even offer APs, none of which are mine! Fml

Wtf? How many AP courses did you actually take within 4 years?

If they dropped AP tests to 80 bucks, I'd feel a little better about where I'm putting my money.

@@Soosss Asian countries and UK are worse.

lol

I remember that prompt, still think that my 4 was the result of a computer glitch, somethings reinforced by this years fiasco

dude pearson sucks, literally anything they do is a cash grab

those books and access codes are pricey as fuck

they're even worse here in the uk. their edexcel exams are waaaay too hard for anyone to try and get a grade 4 which this year (2018) was about 58% of total marks in the maths exam

They own the college board

A lot of tech certification test are through Pearson Vue.

I appreciate your sentiment in being pissed with and for us, since collegeboard doesn’t care about our feelings!

Jeezus. I took the May 2018 test and graduated later that month. I still have friends who took these tests because they're still in high school. What happened? (Starting from the June 2018 test)

Shit. I feel terrible reading this. I feel lucky that I took it in May 2018, just one month before, when the curve was alright.

Also, consider prepping from Khan Academy instead of taking expensive courses. They're excellent.

Twattle theGayCoin They said that there was too many high scores in the June 2018 test so there was a major curve to that test which basically means whatever you got, it would be dropped even lower

I also took the June 2018 SAT as well and yes the curve was so bullshit

At least the mafia offers protection for your business.

Americans pay for tests?

What was the question?

@@exaucemayunga22 "What's your name?"

Bro the same thing happened to me. I had a game that night and I was really tired and I ended up getting an email at 10 o clock. 10 fucking o clock. Hours after everything else had already been canceled. Also like what the fuck. It was one day. You could’ve just let us sorry fucks take the SAT. One day damn it.

Same thing happen to my friend :(

I would still advise you to keep studying because the test isn’t cancelled, they’re just rescheduling it until the virus dies down a bit

Yup

Imagine that feeling but after three hours.

Literally me😂 After having a technical problem on my exam and hopefully I’ll be able to take a retake, I made an anger cake, ya know, all the whisking and stuff can really release a lot of anger. (Off topic but my dog died later that night and then I still had to take the AP comp test on Wednesday but then decided not to because Mental Stability and basically, this week has been very far from a vibe and I want to join you in smashing the college board)

Green Apples ouch I hope everything goes well on your side from now on

Yet they don't get fucking arrested or so.

there would likely still be faults to it, and future presidents would likely screw it up, but its better than a private monopoly

That gives the government too much power in determining the futures of people.

FutureNow What college are you at? I have 5 AP's as a junior, and will take 5 more next yesr

PolyMatter the algorithm is unreadable at this point, just keep uploading regularly and hope it gets better.

my man asznee just start drama with someone my dude, thats how you get attention. If that's what you want

this vid was on recommended

Thankfully I found you beforehand!

Gabriel Hambleton, Curious: Were you already subscribed and/or had you seen my videos before? I think RU-vid is still recommending my videos to subscribers (as far as I can tell)

NC Aråb I'm in college but never took SAT, all I did was graduate from community college

Take it at the end of your senior year, when you’re at your peak educationally. Then, once you join the military, and get past your tech school and EOC, depending on your branch (I’m in the Air Force, so that’s where this advice is coming from), you should get college benefits that lets you take classes for free each year, up to a certain amount. Since your tech school and job will likely count towards an associates community college degree (called a “CCAF” in the air force), I recommend knocking that out first, and here’s why. When you decide to go for a certain 4 year degree, taking classes on the side of your job, most colleges will apply a certain amount of your credits from your associates (CCAF) to that 4 year degree (so long as they are similar enough subjects). For example, I’m an aircraft mechanic, and have an interest in possibly taking Aeronautics at Embry Riddle. If I get my CCAF in my field first, that’ll count towards about the first 2 years worth of college credits of the aeronautics degree. And when it comes to completing your associates, you can potentially knock that out pretty fast too, since a lot of your job will count towards it, and any classes you have to take to make up the difference, you can potentially earn those credits by simply taking a standardized test in that subject called a “CLEP”. If you pass the CLEP, you get credit for the class without having to take it, and you can take your first clep in a given subject for free... If you fail it however, your second try has a fee. And final piece of advice, do online classes if you can. They’re so much easier when you have a day job in the military.

Or... it’s because they want you to go to college and the SAT is required to go to most colleges.

My school makes us take it junior and senior year

@@hatman4818 "Take it at the end of your senior year, when you’re at your peak educationally." No. Here, we're at out peak education in our Junior year, where most people take the hardest classes, aim to acquire the highest scores, and be the best educated they can be. We take our SAT in our Junior year, in spring for most, but it's open to whenever you want, in actuality. Our PSAT is also taken in the Fall.

Major Languid Yah if the college has 4 years, which is quite unique to the USA and some others and it makes the AP's seem profitable while you still lose money compared to other countries

X Halt Salute lower income students usually get a price reduction that depends on the state poverty guidelines.

If you pay for a college class and you fail it, should you still get credit because you paid to take the course? $94 to take an exam for college credit that you might fail > $Thousands of dollars to take a college course for credit that you might fail

Remember, the College Board isn't teaching your course though; your high school is. At least the cost of credits goes to the institution that is providing you an education, but in the case of AP tests, our schools don't get anything from those test fees while the College Board gets everything.

Chances are you’ll still have to take the course. Most colleges don’t look nor care about your AP test scores at all.

I know this is 4 years ago but im PISSED they dont offer winter/ 1 semester AP tests. My school has term long AP classes which i have to keep up with and study for for half the school year WHILE taking other AP classes.

Liberty Prime Corona Virus has delayed rent payments, stopped wars in the Middle East, shut down the economy but College Board doesn’t give a fuck. They getting their fucking dough no matter what

guess who owns College board?

Ooh ooh I know! That one is probably going to be on someone’s ap test this year! They also are affiliated with khan academy so we can’t trust anyone anymore!

Like a fine wine or fancy cheese!

Wow I honestly wish it was similar here, because it's like it's not only our grades that count but also the test scores, extracurriculars, honors, sports, volunteering, competitions, college essay, etc. And it's like they're expecting us to earn all As as well ad everything else just way too overwhelming and like we can't even get a good night's sleep because we're so busy trying to get into college to end up in tens of thousands of dollars of debt for a degree. And it's just so much, feel unfair but I guess we have no choice, if want a certain career.

I did lol

TheEzzyTrez Wish it was free here..

you mean instead of choosing to pay for it, you are forced to pay for it via taxes?

Zak Garcia old people pay for my college so I can work more productively to pay for their rent

Zak Garcia you can use that logic for regular public schooling... not a good argument.

QK Who guarantees that the teen is going to use that college education productively? But let’s say he does work productively. Who guarantees that a teen’s productive work will put money in the old man’s pocket to pay for his rent? If he can’t pay for his rent why the fuck should he be forced into giving a teen free college tuition? If I’m an old man and I want to give a teen some money for college, I’ll make sure he’s doing well and that my money isn’t going to waste. Key word WANT. If I want to give someone money for something I will. I shouldn’t be forced to

Yeah, this too. It's bizarre how different classes transfer (or don't) to colleges. Makes you wonder if there's some sort of financial deal going on between College Board and colleges.