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The Constitution of Judea (103-6 BCE) 

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Between 167 and 103 BCE, Judea transformed from a persecuted backwater on the edge of the Seleucid Empire to a fully independent expansionist Kingdom. Key to understanding what followed is how that Kingdom worked.
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@yontisari7307
@yontisari7307 4 года назад
very reminiscent of historia civilis, in the best way possible.
@jamiee7367
@jamiee7367 4 года назад
Couldn't agree more.
@jack_corvinus
@jack_corvinus 2 года назад
But this time with circles, instead of squares
@IAmChadBroseph
@IAmChadBroseph 2 года назад
Seems entirely deliberate.
@sevelofficial2696
@sevelofficial2696 Год назад
I thought the same!
@stefanpieper3757
@stefanpieper3757 Год назад
It has the same music too.
@jerolvilladolid
@jerolvilladolid 2 года назад
Jews: taxes income Romans: taxes property Americans: taxes both income AND property
@Great_Olaf5
@Great_Olaf5 2 года назад
All modern nation-states:tax income and property.
@napoleonbonaparte314
@napoleonbonaparte314 4 года назад
wow. This video is very well made, and made it very easy to understand. I'm thinking, "HOW DOES THIS GUY HAVE ONLY 160 SUBSCRIBERS!". Subscribed.
@SamAronow
@SamAronow 4 года назад
Just wait until I get to *your* episode.
@jred7
@jred7 2 года назад
>24k subscribers now!
@JoshNpublicgplus
@JoshNpublicgplus 2 года назад
Damn, he only had 160 subscribers at this point?? That's crazy!
@jaystrickland4151
@jaystrickland4151 2 года назад
1 year later 30k subscribers.
@jred7
@jred7 2 года назад
@@jaystrickland4151 geeeeez! Another 6K subscribers in three weeks!
@Simon_Alexnder
@Simon_Alexnder 2 года назад
One should note that the "populistic" nature of the Pharasees is not so straight-forward. The Pharasees were not anti-monarchists or anti-aristocratic. They were Traditionalists who did not like the Hellenization of the upper classes, and claimed that the Davidic monarchy was the only legitimate one, as oppossed to the Hellenized Hasmonians.
@Mark_Williams300
@Mark_Williams300 2 года назад
Was there a recognised "Pretender" to the Throne of David that the Pharisees might have rallied behind or had the line vanished completely by that time? Maybe that was the reason so many chancers tried their luck and claimed Messianic status?
@Mark_Williams300
@Mark_Williams300 Год назад
@@condor237 When did the last Exilarch die and who were his descendents?
@hasanturkovic9049
@hasanturkovic9049 2 года назад
This is fascinating. Regarding precedent and case law, in modern times it is a unique feature of English common law. Most of Continental Europe and it’s former colonies have legal systems rooted in the Napoleonic Code, which is basically an updated restatement of Roman law which has functioned in Europe for millennia prior, and doesn’t recognize precedent, case law or any law that isn’t explicitly codified, and in addition Roman law does not allow for the court to interpret law in the way that English law does. However, prior to the French Revolution and Napoleonic conquest of Europe, customary law based on precedent and case law, with emphasis on judicial authority coexisted with Roman law in the Holy Roman Empire and dominated the legal system of Northern, Central and Southwestern France - the Southeast of France, Provence/Transalpine Gaul had been much more Romanized and so in the Parlements d’Aix and Toulouse and in the Conseil souverain de Roussillon, right until 1789 the Codex Theodosianus, the Breviary of Alaric and through the Lex citationum the juridical works of Ulpian, Papinian, Paulus, Modestinus etc were primary legal sources, along with the Digest of Justinian’s code as written in the Littera Florentina was the legal rule.
@burnsbooks69
@burnsbooks69 2 года назад
I’m a Jew that’s been very curious about our history as I left temple after my Bar mitzvah and thus didn’t learn our history but your channel has been an amazing discovery. Thank you
@diehardsportsfan32
@diehardsportsfan32 Год назад
As a Jewish Studies major in college, I read/watched countless introductions and summaries of Jewish History. This channel is so much better than all of them it’s ridiculous.
@toraparatodos
@toraparatodos 4 года назад
I love your videos. Do you have your bibliography written down somewhere? Would love to peruse your sources. Shabbat shalom.
@toraparatodos
@toraparatodos 4 года назад
Just saw them on the credits. Yasher koach.
@unflexian
@unflexian 4 года назад
Criminally underrated
@AlexGoldhill
@AlexGoldhill 2 года назад
The conflicts between the Sadducees and Pharisees kind of reminds me of the struggles between the Tories and Whigs in British history.
@jack_corvinus
@jack_corvinus 2 года назад
Serious Historia Civilis vibes, I love it
@billybobjohnadamjoe
@billybobjohnadamjoe 2 года назад
I never imagined my own research, which was spotty at best, could be confirmed and completely outclassed by your fantastic work.
@Bouya47
@Bouya47 10 месяцев назад
The Kingdom of Judah existed from the 10th to the 6th century BCE, until it was conquered by the Babylonians, who destroyed Jerusalem and the temple and exiled many of the Judahites to Babylon. Judea was then ruled by various foreign powers, such as the Persians, the Greeks, the Seleucids, and the Romans. During this period, Judea witnessed many social, cultural, and religious changes and conflicts, such as the rise of the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the Essenes, and the Zealots, the revolt of the Maccabees, the emergence of the Hasmonean dynasty, the intervention of the Roman general Pompey, the reign of Herod the Great, and the birth of Jesus of Nazareth. In the first century CE, Judea became a Roman province, governed by prefects and procurators appointed by Rome. The Roman rule was oppressive and unpopular among the Jews, who rebelled several times against the foreign occupation. In the second century CE, a Jewish rebellion broke out, led by Simon bar Kokhba, who claimed to be the messiah. The rebellion was crushed by the Roman emperor Hadrian, who renamed Judea as Syria Palaestina, after the ancient enemies of the Jews, the Philistines. He also banned the Jews from entering Jerusalem, which he rebuilt as a Roman city called Aelia Capitolina. These measures were intended to erase the Jewish identity and connection to the land of Judea. The name Palestine was later applied to the whole region by the Romans, who renamed Judea as Syria Palaestina in the 2nd century CE. Judea remained part of the Roman Empire and its successors, the Byzantine Empire and the Islamic Caliphate, until the Crusades in the Middle Ages. The Byzantines had requested the help of the Pope and the western Christians to fight against the Muslim invasions, but they also suffered from the attacks and betrayals of the Crusaders, who sacked Constantinople, the Byzantine capital, in 1204 CE and established a Latin Empire in its place. This weakened the Byzantine Empire and made it more vulnerable to the Ottoman Turks, who eventually conquered it in 1453 CE and Palestine became a part of the Islamic world. After WW II, when all countries agreed not to start any new colonization, the Zionist movement established Israel in parts of Palestine, the latter was under the British Mandate in 1948 CE. They brought Jews from all over the world, mainly from Europe and the Middle East. This led the Arab states and the Palestinians to oppose the UN Partition Plan and deem it unjust and unfair.
@Mark_Williams300
@Mark_Williams300 2 года назад
Was the Judean legal system closer to the Justinian/Napoleonic model or the English/Old German?
@Great_Olaf5
@Great_Olaf5 Год назад
From the sounds of this, the English system.
@bensonfang1868
@bensonfang1868 10 месяцев назад
The Hasmonean system of military conscription with religious exemptions and exemptions for ethnic minorities as well as automatic citizenship for anyone from the diaspora seems similar to modern day Israeli policies
@nathang7601
@nathang7601 4 года назад
Although it is really interesting to hear Jewish History from this sort of perspective. :)
@menachemsalomon
@menachemsalomon 3 года назад
I always saw the government as (ideally) embodying three different sets of hierarchies, with complicated and overlapping interdepedencies. There was the civil government (headed by the king), the religious government (the rabbis, up to the Sanhedrin), and the priests (headed by the high priest). Shimon Hatzadik was at the head of all three, then for a time the high priest was at the head of the civil government, through the Maccabean period. Meanwhile, David and some of his descendants had also been the head of the Sanhedrin, but weren't priests. I would be surprised if the Av Bet Din of the Zugot was a Sadducee, as their names are revered in the (Pharisaic) Talmud. A possible exception is Menachem, Hillel's first opposite, replaced by Shammai after he "left".
@ibnyahud
@ibnyahud 4 года назад
your best video yet thanks
@mrmr446
@mrmr446 3 года назад
The channel Invicta did an episode on the application of Roman Law, if memory serves they had some form of case law. Centuries later but before the middle ages this was also used in Sharia Courts.
@Liberty7628
@Liberty7628 8 месяцев назад
So Judea was proto-Georgist?
@curtisstewart9426
@curtisstewart9426 2 года назад
The Jewish Priests were appointed to maintain law and order in their districts. An agreement the Priests made with the Roman Authority. To maintain law and order without violence.
@joshraymond979
@joshraymond979 2 года назад
so literally jewish English civil war primacy of parliament over the crown and i guess religious stuff as well
@fishconnoisseur
@fishconnoisseur 2 месяца назад
0:20 Gaza Strip? Never heard of it.
@theadvocate7071
@theadvocate7071 2 года назад
If the Rabbi’s role was to interpret and enforce Jewish law, what was the role of lawyers back then? Was the role of “lawyer” in the modern sense fulfilled by the rabbi?
@gideonhorwitz9434
@gideonhorwitz9434 Год назад
This sounds way too similar to England
@aidanguthrie9812
@aidanguthrie9812 2 года назад
A quick question, I was under the impression that Roman law, especially later Roman law, often drew from legal precedent. Could this practice have been influenced by Jewish judicial practices? Or if they are different kinds of legal practice what distinguishes the two?
@BoxStudioExecutive
@BoxStudioExecutive 2 года назад
There's a difference between judicial precedent (what he talked about in this video, i.e., using previous decisions made by judges to influence the outcomes of current disputes) and constitutional precedent (which is what you are thinking about with respect to Roman law, where a government official's actions in the past would be used to defend the legitimacy of what a contemporary official wanted to do but would have been illegal under the Roman constitution, e.g., execute traitors and rivals without trial, ignore the sacrosanctity of a tribune, have armed gangs in the capital, hold a dictatorship beyond the traditional term of office, etc.). Under Western democracies, a government official's actions can be contested in court as being illegal, but in Rome, a government official was immune to prosecution while he held office. Theoretically they could have been brought before a court after their term, but this rarely happened because a politician's popularity with the people or the other senators could easily prevent a conviction. And then, there was Julius Caesar.
@Great_Olaf5
@Great_Olaf5 2 года назад
Roman law didn't really have case precedent, as BoxStudioExecutive said. They did have systems of entering judicial precedent into law codes, but aside from that, precedent could only influence or persuade, not decide, the outcome of a case or the interpretation of the law. Now, interpretation still played a role, no two people can look at a line of text and understand it in exactly the same way, but what this basically means is you can't use other people's interpretations to gradually shift the meaning of laws the way common law courts can. Case precedent basically allows for the law codes themselves to be looser and more compact (think of just how little actual law not related to the government itself is present in the United States Constitution, this is partially because they were primarily concerned with the governing of the country, but also partially because all of that case precedent and legal definitions of terminology were still assumed as valid from English common law), by not requiring them to think of every possible application, and then codify new laws as circumstances that weren't previously thought of or encountered inevitably emerged. The British system still has that to some extent, in that their Supreme Court can't overturn its own precedent like the United States one can, so if a decision reaches that level and conflicts with later understandings of how things should work, the actual law needs to be changed (for example, if the United States Supreme Court had this limitation, they couldn't have overturned the separate but equal doctrine that a prior court had established).
@eldorado6770
@eldorado6770 Год назад
the 2/3 brenches of government 🕍✡ civil tribunals, Lesser Sanhedrim, Great Sanedrin = judiciary Monarch, High Priest= executive no need for a legislature! We were already given our laws!🕎
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 4 года назад
Fascinating!
@patzan48
@patzan48 2 года назад
This is fantastic! Thanks so much. A system modern Israel should work towards re establishing (in a modernised form) rather than living with a superimposed British (former colonial) system.
@VSP4591
@VSP4591 3 года назад
Very instructive and informative. Thank you Sam.
@QWE2623
@QWE2623 Месяц назад
oh yeah, the historia civilis music proves this guy knows what he is doing
@Simon_Alexnder
@Simon_Alexnder 2 года назад
Lol, Historia Civillis Judaea
@richardglady3009
@richardglady3009 10 месяцев назад
Great video covering topics that no one else does. Wonderful for students of Second Temple Judaism (as I am). Of course, the big question is…how did Israel really function at this time? Thanks.
@EliStettner
@EliStettner 6 месяцев назад
Georgism ftw
@theklorg305
@theklorg305 3 года назад
This is amazing.
@YoungPatriots4Israel
@YoungPatriots4Israel 2 года назад
Natai ha’arebeli a tzaduki? Please provide proof Thanks
@CrawlingAxle
@CrawlingAxle Год назад
Wasn't Roman Law heavily based on precedents? Also: 'In the early second millennium B.C.E., Mesopotamian scribes copied a range of legal-pedagogical texts in the context of their education. These texts included sample contracts, phrasebooks with lists of common legal phrases; and long-form cases dealing with “juicy” topics such as homicide, adultery, inheritance disputes, and adoption disputes. These long cases are generally marked by colorful flourishes and interesting points of law, and regularly feature a judicial body called “the Assembly.”'
@Enrico-
@Enrico- 10 месяцев назад
Civil law system aren't as reliant on legal precedents as common law system. An Italian lawyer quoting the law talks about the "law X comma Y year XXXX" whereas an American lawyer always quotes "X v Y".
@toraparatodos
@toraparatodos 4 года назад
I thought that intermediate sanhedrin could also hear capital cases as per Mishna Sanhedrin 1.
@HesderOleh
@HesderOleh 4 года назад
That is true, a court of 23 can deal with murder and other capital cases when there was a great sanhedrin in existence.
@sheikowi
@sheikowi 2 года назад
It was a theocracy under a closed aristocratic class. The only political dynamic was argument "what does the Law (ie Bible) actually mean? -- JUST LIKE IN THE US . The cohanmim were "strict constructionists", the p'rushim were more pragmatic. Both coveted and wallowed in legalism, legal pugilism, as devices of power. JUST LIKE IN THE US. And there were the usual anarchical and narcisstic and mystigogical elements that were in it for the drama. JUST LIKE IN THE US. But the two main groups were TINY. NOT LIKE IN THE US (where the real norm-makers are tiny and not too visible). As they say in Ireland: AIN BOR LOMED. Start learning, if you're not stuck in Sufi simplification.
@antonivsfortis
@antonivsfortis Год назад
The thumbnail would make a pretty awesome flag
@johnaweiss
@johnaweiss 3 года назад
5:52 This split seems different than splits in the Jewish world in the 20th/21st century.
@BeneRomi753
@BeneRomi753 3 года назад
All of your videos are great, but this might just be your best. Criminal you have so few subs
@JuanCanuck
@JuanCanuck 2 года назад
Thank you for introducing me to Jewish history!
@ilaypaz
@ilaypaz 2 года назад
So many parallels withe modern Israel.
@Mark_Williams300
@Mark_Williams300 2 года назад
This channel has some really interesting stuff.
@tavorliman9286
@tavorliman9286 2 года назад
This is sooooo interesting! I an going to watch this for a few more times.
@jimgate64
@jimgate64 2 года назад
Thank you for your videos!
@LuanFauth
@LuanFauth Год назад
wow! so interesting!
@Mark_Williams300
@Mark_Williams300 2 года назад
Why do you think England embraced case law rather than the more common civil law of continental Europe?
@Great_Olaf5
@Great_Olaf5 2 года назад
The civil law of the rest of Europe was heavily derived from, or directly copied from in some cases early on, Roman law. I think case law was derived from Anglo-Saxon common law, and actually coexisted with civil law in the Holy Roman Empire (modern Germany, Austria, and the Czech Republic) for a while, pretty much up until Napoleon forced Europe to redraw the map and rewrite the laws, which implies some kind of common origin in germanic tribal customs.
@johnkilmartin5101
@johnkilmartin5101 2 года назад
The Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Frisians as well as the Danes were never part of the Roman Empire. Prior to the introduction of Equity law under the Angevins almost all legal proceedings happened at the manor courts. These courts used the 'custom of the manor' even after the Norman Conquest. This meant a Norman might hold land with five and maybe six different systems depending if he held land through the church. When the Crown introduced Equity courts to compete with manorial courts ( a substantial revenue stream) an adjustment to whichever system provided more relief was needed. Generally this was conformity to decisions in the Equity Courts i.e. competition in jurisprudence.
@johnaweiss
@johnaweiss 3 года назад
1:07 1-2 million PLUS 50%?
@brenosantana1458
@brenosantana1458 3 года назад
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@yarovitek
@yarovitek 2 года назад
Precedent law was very present in Roman law actually - in the form of Preaetor's Edict.
@AMRPK
@AMRPK 2 года назад
Conservatives would not like the state owning property. "THATS SOCIALISM" I can hear them howl.
@SamAronow
@SamAronow 2 года назад
Moses Hess certainly believed Judea was a proto-socialist commonwealth, building on Spinoza's concept of Judaism as a constitution. But Hess took it too far IMO. Judea still had a monarchy, theocracy, a hereditary nobility, and truly horrific wealth inequality.
@jhonjacson798
@jhonjacson798 2 года назад
2:25 so they were goergists? lol nice
@BitspokesV2
@BitspokesV2 Год назад
That’s the opposite of Georgism. Georgism is *only* property tax, sans income. Judean taxation was *only* income tax, sans property.
@jhonjacson798
@jhonjacson798 Год назад
@@BitspokesV2 oops... really should have relooked into that before making a comment.
@MalachiCo0
@MalachiCo0 Месяц назад
No, but honestly the Torah and Georgism really is made for each other. Too bad Henry George wasn't around back then.
@yochaiwyss3843
@yochaiwyss3843 2 года назад
Rome already had Precedent Law, and I'd argue was more governmentally advanced than Judea, due to the two-chamber nature of the legislative between the Senate and the Popular Assembly. What are the Judean Regional Governors? Are they part of the Executive? Semi-Independant like Roman Governors (subject to the Legislative Branch)?
@Great_Olaf5
@Great_Olaf5 Год назад
Which popular assembly? There were three of them, the Assembly of the Centuries, the Assembly of the Tribes, and the Plebeian Assembly (or Council), and none of them were permanent bodies, they were called up by the senate to vote on proposed legislation, they might have been formal, but they weren't elected positions, they were more of a variety of different referenda mechanisms. In addition, these assemblies could only give a yes/no vote, the senate proposed a completed bill to them, and they voted it up or down with no option for their own debates and editing. Historia Civilis has an excellent video on how Roman elections and legislature worked, which this video clearly took inspiration from.
@abdulhadiayyad
@abdulhadiayyad 6 месяцев назад
In this day and age, you should not be able to het away with a description about land ownership in modern Israel without once mentioning what happened to the Palestinians who once own
@VSP4591
@VSP4591 3 года назад
Jesus Christ was judged by the Great Sanhedrim.
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