The Black album may not be thrash and I Iove and grew up on the thrash era Metallica, but My Friend of Misery is one of Metallica's best non thrash era songs on that album in my opinion. Kirk's Unforgiven solo IS BOB ROCK. Bob pushed Kirk and you can even see the video on youtube, he pushed Kirk because he KNEW Kirk could pull off a perfect solo for that song, and that he did.
I was 11 when the black album came out. By that time I was listening GnR, Nirvana, Maiden etc The black album blew me away. That was the album that got me into heavier music and into forming my first band, which incidentally is still going to this day. It was Lars that made me want to be a better drummer. Through the Never oooft what a tune. For me the better tunes on that album are the lesser known ones. Essential listening. I first saw them on the Escape From The Studio tour while they were recording Load in 1995 I was 15, at Donington Park. Also my first Festival. I’ll be seeing them twice at Donington Park this year at Download, I’m 43 🤘🏻 Keep up the good work.
I’ll NEVER forget the first time I heard that album. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. I kept thinking it was a bad joke. Time has given me much more appreciation for it. Nothing Else Matters is one of the best songs of all time, honestly. But back the, I hated it! I agree with one of the other comments. We were too set in our ways back then.
I agree 1 trillion percent with the first three sentences you wrote. My opinion hasn't changed one iota. I hate the black album more than probably any album I have ever heard.
I wouldn't say that "We were too set in our ways back then." More along the lines of you didn't want Metallica to change or evolve which is unfortunately the case with quite a few commenters I've seen. Metallica knew what was going on with heavy metal in general with the growing popularity of the grunge bands that were building their fanbases, and they felt like they had finally hit a brick wall with the thrash metal formula. Hell, James Hetfield himself said in an interview that they knew that there were other bands that were doing what they were doing, but could play much faster, and felt like they had hit a wall with thrash metal.
I still think nothing else matters sucks Itgot overplayed so much I could see how people could get used to it and think it was a good song after hearing it infinity times. It's all marketing and conditioning.
The problem with the Black album though is that it appealed to millions of girls who just loved Nothing Else Matters which is the most un-Metallica song they wrote. They couldn't care less for their thrash heritage. Although a great song it was an anomaly. When they felt the backlash from their original fans myself included who actually bought KEA when it came out (I was 17 at the time), they went back to their thrash metal roots thank goodness!
All of their albums eventually grow on me. They’ll come out with a new album, I’ll listen to it a few times, and decide which songs I like and don’t like. Then I won’t listen to it for a while (a few years or so) then I’ll give it another listen and those songs I didn’t like before I end up really liking. Fixxxer and Outlaw Torn for example, I couldn’t stand but now they’re two of my favorites!
Most artists are allowed to grow, branch out, evolve - go where their creative process takes them. Metallica seems to be the most criticized for doing that. You can't stay young and angry forever. While I have loved the first 2 albums since they were released, I don't listen to them anymore - only live versions of the songs because James' voice is so much grittier with age. The Black Album is like the gateway drug into metal but there is a lot of substance there! I remember so many people angry about it but I thought it was (and is) a fantastic record front to back.
The black album was my first introduction to metal. My brother had a tape of it that he would play in his truck while driving me to school. I loved it. My tastes have changed since then and I've gotten more into the heavier and more intricate stuff, but I still love the black album just for sentimental reasons.
Thing is with Metallica. They were willing to evolve with the changing forecast of rock and metal. The other thing is they gained more new fans with the Black album. With that, those new fans probably went back and bought the first 4 albums because of the Black album. In the words of Jason Newsted.....Yeah we are sellouts. We sellout every night to play.
Well that's what happened to me. My introduction to Metallica was picking up my sister's CD Reload. I bought the Black Album after that bought their whole catalog after that when I saved up the money as an 11 year old.
Well, I much prefer their older stuff. But that doesn't mean I don't love the Black Album! James's vocals are spot on. And the production is amazing. It's got to be one of the best sounding albums ever recorded. Remember when Metallica were called sellouts for including Fade To Black on Ride The Lightning? 😆
My first metallica album. Hearing enter sandman that first time on mtv had me hooked. I liked nearly every song on it. I got the first four albums before load came out and after someone told me to check out master of puppets. I got the style change comments, but I think were perfecting themselves. I like nearly everything they've done .
Black album and Load are fantastic additions to their output. At the time, it might have been hard to accept the change of sound given how incredible their eighties work was but looking back it makes perfect sense because they avoided becoming stale and repetitive.
There is no controversy why Metallica wrote the Black Album, THEY wanted a change of musical direction, to play Arenas around the World, and reach a new Audience. It's all explained in the Year end a half videos 30 years ago! 🙄
Metallica fans are okay with change and evolution... It's the edgy and elitist douchebags who cry about "sell outs" when they don't get what they want.
Metallica is the biggest band in the world because people can't stop talking shit about them. From Mustaine to disgruntled fans. Music is like a religion. You like what YOU like. I like what I like. Don't preach your hate on me. At the end of the day, good music will always get you through the toughest times.
Black could not ever be topped, James lyrics was from the heart. He lived most of the lyrics, The band captured the feeling of james lyrics, Load was another from the heart lyric written album, And now the first two songs released from the latest album is James heart filled lyrics again , The new album wont be the greatest. But I bet its a dam good one, James seems to write better when faced with hardships of life, The band has had years to come up with riffs, Cannot wait to hear the entire album
Metallica could create a logo around the middle finger... they did it their way , regardless of what others had to say. Very thankful to have artists like them roaming this earth where they may.
They sure did which is the total OPPOSITE of selling out and I find it ironic that so many people have the opinion that they sold out. I'm convinced 90% of them are just following others because blind sheep cannot think on their own you know. The did what they wanted the way they wanted and didn't care what people thought which is the opposite of selling out and just because they tried different things and were successful people say they sold out which imo is ridiculous
@@shaunduffy8019 Lars had a friend who was planning to publish a metal fanzine with the title "MetalMania" or "Metallica." Lars selected "Metallica." It had nothing to do with the band Overkill.
Some people say that bob rock forced them to do this. but they wrote the songs on justice tour, and looked for bob rock to shape the songs this way. Bob said he thought they wanted an AJFA 2.0 and when he heard the tapes with the songs he said wow that's different. Bob took a lot of crap and he did just what they wanted him to do. Produce a great heavy metal album. and the fact that the album even before any remaster sounds better than some records made today it's a testament to the hard work they put into it. The success of that record was like winning an Oscar. Gave them lifelong prestige. I also appreciate that they evolved and grew up. That album shows a lot of their musical maturity at the moment.
Metallica don't owe anyone anything. It's their music, and they can do what they want. There's no "Thrash code" that has to be stuck to. No council of metal that needs to approve albums - no matter what all the butthurt purists say. The Black Album was groundbreaking in terms of production and guitar tone, and the songs were all much deeper due to the tempered pace. This is only bad if you assume that fast=good, which is quite the immature take. There are albums of theirs that I absolutely despise, but that's my issue - not theirs.
Yes, they adapted to the market and became the most commercially successful band. I don't see anything positive in that. They chose to make music for money instead of passion. I can't think of anything that stands less for 'Metal' than that !!! I've been a metalhead for over 30 years now and it pisses me off that this band is still considered as the 'poster boy' for metal. I feel betrayed to be represented by this band as they've only been producing pop rock for the masses for ages!
I always felt the black album made metal "safe" for radio and cool for frat boys. It opened the door for bro metal bands like Disturbed and Godsmack. Load was the only CD I ever gave away that was given back to me. After Load my buddies and I started calling them Alternica.
And this is how we end up with people saying “I like metal” and it turns out they mean wimpy wigger normie shit like slipknot, coal chamber, parkway drive, lamb of god, Amon Amarth hahaha. 99% of the time if someone says they like metal I don’t even ask what they’re into because I know it’s gonna be poser shit. It’s almost like actual tough guy, man metal needs to be called something else so we can determine whether someone likes suicide silence and chimaera and should be made fun of, or Deicide and Immolation and Regurgitation and should be made friends to drink and shoot guns with.
It took me 20 years to acknowledge that the Black Album is a really good metal album. It's not a thrash album, but I listen to more genres of metal than thrash, so I don't care if it's thrash or not. The biggest issue with that album for me now is that it got overplayed. I never had to even play the album for myself to have heard it a thousand times already, and I would be happy to never hear Enter Sandman again. My buddy at the time bought it on release and we ran to his place to listen to it. We were shocked. I remember just thinking how dumbed down and simplified it was, even the lyrics just seemed so silly contrasted to AJFA. But my biggest issue came with the new found fan base of latcher-ons and posers, who just liked Metallica now because they were all over the radio. I met tons of people who loved that album, but wouldn't give any other metal bands a chance. I started getting annoyed because whenever someone would look at my huge metal collection they'd always ask "Do you have any Metallica?" I got so tired of hearing it that I sold all my Metallica so they'd stop with only wanting to listen to my Metallica. I remember I just really started to hate Metallica's new fan base and not wanting to be associated with it, so that's also why I distanced myself from Metallica. Plus, I was still young and pissed off, I was 20 when the Black Album came out, and I still wanted all my music to be just as angry and pissed off as I was, and Metallica just weren't anymore. Same thing happened with Judas Priest in 1986 with Turbo. That was the album that made me stop listening to Judas Priest for 20 years. If Metallica didn't want to play fast, aggressive music anymore, there were plenty of bands coming out that did, there were other options. Plus Death Metal was really starting to emerge as a scene and I started listening to bands like Entombed, Carcass, Obituary. I was also into Fear Factory, Machinehead, Biohazard, Sick of It All, Slayer, Sepultura, Madball, Agnostic Front, Cathedral, Danzig, The Rollins Band etc.
I remember being a little kid DYING with anticipation to see/hear what they were going to do after AJFA only to hear Enter Sandman and being completely disappointed. Lyrically Enter Sandman is absolutely terrible sounds like a 12 year old wrote the lyrics I can’t stand that F-N song. And That was the day Pantera took over for Metallica. Now being older I understand the Black Album is an incredible album. But with that being said do I ever listen to it? No. But they still have 4 previous incredible albums that changed music history and still influence music today.
I always felt Hysteria was a chick album. It's a huge album for sure and made them more popular and they got more female fans. Which I suppose is the point. Every dude starts a band to get laid right? And it just so happened to work out for them. Hysteria came out when I was in junior high I think and I noticed that the girls were really getting into them. I tried to turn them onto On Through the Night and Pyromania and they did not want anything to do with either one of those albums. Probably because they were heavier sounding and weren't as polished like you said.
People who only like Kill ‘Em All are the same people as metal elitists, who shit on Pop music, Classical music, ETC- which is ironic because Classical & Pop elements make up their beloved Metal. In my humble opinion. Also, regardless of anyone says; “softer” songs are ALWAYS the most commercially successful, period, then and now.
They released a video for the metal ballad “One”. It became a big hit and they figured “ hey playing slowed down simplistic shit makes us more money”. Hence they followed up “And Justice” with a full album, 74 minutes of slowed down music with more ballads. It wasn’t a master plan. It’s the best example of selling out you can find. Then everyone started jumping on the trend. Anthrax, Testament, Overkill, Megadeth, Exodus and the list goes on. Saved only by the bright shinning beacon of light who kept the torch of thrash burning; SLAYER!!!!
It certainly was a departure and as the years have gone by I’ve grown to really love it. Is it MoP, Justice etc, no. They took a risk and I’m happy they did. Hearing the songs live is always a fave time for me during their concerts. It’s aged beautifully and it’s a fn banger of an album 🤘🤘🤘🔥🔥🔥
You are right. In everything I've ever read. Every video I've seen. There has been no mention of Metallica being called something else. Lars stole the name before he even had a band from his friend Ron Quintana. Ron Quintana is a famous for thinking out the name “Metallica”. In 1981 he asks his friend Lars Ulrich what would be the best title for his new heavy metal fanzine - “Metal Mania” or “Metallica”.
The black album was great even tough i like their thrash metal most. I dont like anything that came after. The magic was gone with load and reload. It never came back.
I think …and Justice for all. is my favorite album and perhaps their best riff/thrash metal work. BUT the black album is just on another level. It can’t be compared to anything else they’ve done. It’s one of the greatest albums of all time and they can never write something as good as that ever again. It shouldn’t have been called the black album, it should be called The perfect album.
Everything up to the black album is their best stuff..... master of puppets, kill em all, ride the lightning, 5.98 ep and and justice for all. ...black album
As 'controversial' as the black album was, the focus of late around it specifically feels a little bit retconned to me. I recall at the time that a lot of purists had already written Metallica off as sell-outs when they made a video for 'One' which at the time was considered a big deal. There were already a lot of expectations that they were going more commercial before the Black album even came out.
I didn't like the Black album much when it came out. As time has gone on, I find that I dislike it much more. The first four albums were fantastic. They created a unique sound and became my favorite metal band during the 80's. The Black album was a complete sellout. They just sounded like a thousand other bands and things just kept getting worse.
RTL, MOP, & AJFA were 3 epic records most bands would kill to have done one of. Every album can’t be fuckin’ MOP. Subsequent releases shouldn’t lose points being compared to the past.
Speaking of Thrash Metal, Overkill''s new album "Scorched" is released at the same time as Metallica's "72 Seasons". If you like Metallica's new album more than Exodus, then have some prune juice and take a nap. Bobby "Blitz" Ellsworth, who's older than James Hetfield, isn't having emotional breakdowns on stage like James has. Metallica OUT, Overkill IN
i think james i one big actor. he knows his fans would have compassion for his idol so he act emocional brakedown. maybe im wrong.. but i dont buy it. if you are such a train wreck just stop playing. its all showbiz imo
No buddy, you got that wrong: Metallica didn´t plan the Black Album because of Grunge. The idea came around 89, influenced by Def Leppard´s Histerya and yes, even Thriller by Michael Jackson, as they wanted Crossover success, and those 2 were super big crossover hits. The Black Album was released almost a full year before Nirvana broke big. Also, the hate and obvious fatigue of the Hair metal Glam thing was a factor. Another factor: Guns n roses showed that it was possible to do real heavy music. be successful with the masses and not follow the Glam route. Why was it such a success? many factors for sure, but one of them was that this made metal "safe" for consumption by the masses who bought at Walmart, etc. And coming from the band with the impeccable credentials of being the originators of Thrash.
So I think many will agree with this, but if say the people who liked the thrashy stuff Metallica did and the people that didn’t, they would LOVE and justice for all because there are some slow songs but a lot of thrashy stuff too, but honestly for me my favorite album is MOP not only for songwriting but sound wise too
As far as "Nothing Else Matters" goes...it was a thing for metal bands to have the ballad song on their album. Hell,Testament even had a song called "The Ballad". So it was almost inevitable that they would get better with age. Life changes. Feelings and emotions change.
Testament had several ballads back then. The Ballad, The Legacy, and Return to Serenity. Exodus was one of the few that proudly wove the flag of "No Ballads". Even back then I never minded ballads if they were done right and it was a good song, but I preferred heavier stuff.
Even if Metallica hadn’t crossed over to the mainstream they were still a very huge band. They could’ve actually been doing headlining arena gigs just several months after Puppets came out. When they were opening for Ozzy supporting that record the fans were there to see Metallica, not Ozzy and many fans were splitting right after Metallica’s set all across those shows in America. Cliff’s death only delayed the inevitable of Metallica’s domination. The new fans that loved that Black album and practically knew nothing of their Thrash era were poseurs as far as I was concerned 😂. As selfish as it was, Metallica was OURS, and for a lot of us old school fans we felt disappointed and left behind. I do have an appreciation for the Black album now that my sense of tastes in music has had a long period of maturation. But when the Black album came out I was an 18 year old Thrash head,😂 and I hated that Black album. I thought it was just cheesy and was not a “Metallica” record. Thank God for PanterA’s breakthrough soon after to quell the pain and crisis hardcore Metal fans felt from losing OUR BAND, Metallica. 😂😂
thats not a bad thing because life is too short and boring if are living and doing the same thing.. sometimes we need to take a risk when you want to create something new and different... Whether metallica from old vs New metallica im proud that im always be a fan of metallica...😁
The Black Album was the album you could put on at parties and people enjoyed it. Your average person does not want to hear Disposable Heroes or Fight Fire with Fire at a big party. It kills the mood. The Black Album turned sooooo many people on to heavier music. I dont listen to it as much, but its still a stone cold classic.
I remember clearly when it came out: it made Metal the lord of all media. BUT... I hated it. It felt like your girlfriend sleeping with your best friend, it felt like being punched in the stomach, off guard. It felt like a betrayal. I like that record now but it took me like 5 years to like it. I can understand intellectually why they did that. But man... I also resented that every interview they gave during those years, when pressed to comment on the issue, they were obviously evading or lying. Oh well. Then they released Load and Reload. Same story. I spent the 90s listening to old metallica. Metallica didn´t plan the Black Album because of Grunge. The idea came around 89, influenced by Def Leppard´s Histerya and yes, even Thriller by Michael Jackson, as they wanted Crossover success, and those 2 were super big crossover hits. The Black Album was released almost a full year before Nirvana broke big. Also, the hate and obvious fatigue of the Hair metal Glam thing was a factor. Another factor: Guns n roses showed that it was possible to do real heavy music, be successful with the masses and not follow the Glam route. Why was it such a success? many factors for sure, but one of them was that this made metal "safe" for consumption by the masses who bought at Walmart, etc. And coming from the band with the impeccable credentials of being the originators of Thrash.
Cool, episode, but metal was not yet on the decline. Use Your Illustion hadnt come out, Nevermind hadnt come out, Countdown to Extinction would go double platinum while not being released till a year later, etc. Rock and metal were still dominant at the time.
I became a fan of Metallica in 1988 when I was 13 years old and started with And Justice for All & Master Of Puppets. I do not understand fans who want the same sound from their bands forever. I’ve enjoyed all of their albums except for Lulu, Lulu was not good (my opinion) but I love the experimentation!
You ever heard of an AC/DC fan? Look, bands should change their sound and try new stuff, but Load/Reload with semen/blood, semen/urine covers and crappy songs is not what I wanted from Metallica.
I read the lyrics on Lulu and it was the most degenerate and distasteful, meaningless drivel i read in my life, no wonder no one wanted to help that degenerate write it, until Metallica for some Odd reason. If you have any sense of common sense you see these lyrics was written by a disturbing man, if you are an adult you see why that ain't cool. It's one thing a lot of Thrash is over the top BS fantasy theme from horror movies and such, but Lue Reed is basically what we could potentially seen on an actual wall of a demented serial killer... It wasn't even written good, it was messy, the themes disturbing and sick... Why Metallica? I am just happy people gave it the respect it deserved 💩 If people come with that "You just don't understand Art".... Well, people today display toilet bowls in Art displays and calls it Art, nuff said.
Which, in fact, it does exist, and a little interesting fact it was released on the same day as my father's thirty seventh birthday. He got death magnetic as a gift. ^^
I saw them in Glendale,AZ and both my sons were there it was definitely aBLAST! I’ve definitely been a fan over the years, listened to everyone opinions about this or that stopped listening to my own un favorite albums but they still keep going and used to get drunk driving around listening to these songs on radio it was a good time back then. 😅
There is no way to prove that. Metallica fans were foaming at the mouth for new Metallica at that time. It was 3 years since the last release and Metallica was going to explode no matter what. Sure making more radio friendly songs helped sell more but the lines of fans that purchased it in the first few months were not the fans that came along because of Enter Sandman. This album all but killed thrash metal in the 90s. Every band attempted in one way or another to imitate this new radio metal sound and frustrated the fans and pointed them to other genres of metal. Sure Metallica stayed popular but all the others struggled once they started to chase after this sound. This was Metallica's first album to be loaded with weak songs. There are a few great ones but so many are just filler unlike previous albums. Everyone talks about how Grunge was on the rise. Nirvana was the first major success in that scene with its release of Nevermind on September 24th 1991 while Metallica's black album was released more than a month before that so there was 0 influence from that genre on why they made this record.
as somebody who still all these years later adores their first 3 albums above all else in their catalog i would personally have to say i think 'black album' is the most overrated album in metal history. imo 'enter sandman', 'sad but true' and 'into the never' are the only truly great songs on it the rest is mediocre at best. tbh, i actually think their last 3 are better than the 'black album'. maybe my ass is just still hung up on 'kill em' all' i suppose that diagnosis could be correct. either way great vid as always very well done and researched.
They got bored of writing thrash and christ who could blame them. I don't know many bands that had three straight albums without a dud song on them. Most bands I liked there was one or two song...maybe three on the album that are great but the rest was just filler. As far as the Trash part , Hell Cliff when asked about Fade to Black said that some people were saying that if they weren't playing 1,000 miles an hour ever song they were selling out "So be it". Album still has some amazing tracks. I was more put off by Slayer's Diobolus in Musica than the Black Album. lol No Load and after...that's a different story.
When I started listening to Metallica the black album had been out for some time I just hadn’t discovered it yet. I had been listening the stones and BTO and other classic rock when my gave me all his Metallica tapes and it blew my mind I was hooked and about a month later I had starting listening to hard rock stations and heard the unforgiven and thought that ain’t Metallica. It’s a good album it’s not my favorite by any means but still great here and there
My wife, who is no metal head at all, loves "Unforgiven", she like the rest of the album too. But, throw on Kill, Ride, Master, or, Justice, she'll say... "I don't wanna hear that screaming, head banging, no making sense shit!" I still love her though! 🥰
For good and for bad, Metallica is a complete band. I can only top St Anger as the "one time-listen album", all the other albuns you hear over and over and over even if there is some songs on it that you dont "like".
I think it is crazy when people support a band even through bad albums. They are just people, greedy people who are clueless lately. The "Black Album" was and is elevator music.
Every great man transcends their original great selves. Look at Zep back in the 70s. As great as they were early on they kept getting criticized and sued for ripping off other artists. Later on they became more complex and unique and so did Metallica.
I didn't appreciate the "evolution" of their sound change in 1991. It's 2023 and I still don't dig this album. Probably never will. I do understand why and how this album became so huge but I just don't like the album. I lost all interest in current Metallica albums until Death Magnetic. The deal for me in not liking the album when it came out was that it was TOO much of an evolution from ...Justice. I wish they had put out something else in '91 that wasn't so commercial but hey ...that's history. I don't hate Metallica for it. I just won't willingly listen to any of the songs on the album lol Enter Sandman is a great song for sporting events ...there's no active sports matches at my house or in my car though. I think I like the 3 songs I've heard from 72 Seasons more than anything they recorded on those Bob Rock albums.
Nothing Else Matters was their first ballad? What about Fade to Black, Sanitarium (Welcome Home), and One? They've had a slow tempo song on many of their albums.
One. The song One is what led them to the Black album. They fed their new fans they made through the song One, and fed them the Black. I’ll never forget the same lames who called me terms like, “ head” or of course, “head-banger” , started wearing Metallica shirts after the video One. Metallica knew they already had “us” headbangers, so they gave their knew fans more of what they wanted. That’s why Nothing Else Matters and The Unforgiven,, I’m mean the whole record might have been heavy but no where near the RPM’s the other records maintained….
I used to listen to the fans who said that the newer Metallica albums were awful but they were wrong sure it wasn’t thrash but they have some sick ass songs in there
Imo the real reason they stopped making thrash music: cliff died and I think he was such a big contributor to the songwriting process on the early albums. Ajfa seems like they tried to keep going but they just ended with long songs that seemed to bore the audience live (James spoke about this and why they started doing a justice album medley instead of whole songs). I think what cliff brought to the game with his deep knowledge of music theory is what got them those epic bridges and middle sections that haven't been the same since he died. Rip cliff.
I love their pre-Black album stuff and, personally, think they sold out. The Black album sucked because it was like a giant middle finger in the face of us fans that were behind them from the beginning when they still hadn't gotten "big" so to speak. Now, that said, I don't blame them. Being set for life financially would probably cause me to sell out as well! But, using the excuse that metal was dying is some crap. Pantera proved that wasn't the case in the strongest era of grunge. Plus, bands like Slayer stayed true to their fans and still were kicking ass when they finally called it quits. Megadeth, Anthrax, Exodus, etc are still going. Other hard/thrash bands have come after Metallic changed their tune and been successful. So, don't use that as a cop out. They wanted the fame and the fortune so just be honest about it. It's their careers and lives and they're free to do as they wish but I don't have to like it or keep buying that garbage they now call their music. Now, flame on!
It wasn't about "being set for life financially" dumbass. And using the "excuse" as you call it that metal was dying is definitely not "some crap." I always love to see what asinine excuses people like yourself come up with to justify why you think that Metallica shouldn't have changed or evolved by taking risks by not sticking to what everyone else in the metal world was doing. I also have to wonder if you even bothered watching the damn video. A lot of other bands went into a hiatus when the grunge revolution happened, and Metallica saw that because they saw what was happening with the grunge movement at the time. "Other hard/thrash bands have come after Metallica changed their tune and have been successful, so don't use that as a cop out." Yes, other bands after Metallica changed their sound and have been successful, because guess what? THEY WERE INFLUENCED BY METALLICA!! They had to change their sound as well as also had to have help with writing shorter songs which just got to the point which was the whole intention for The Black Album to begin with. The main reason why Pantera got big during the height of the grunge era was because they worked their asses off to get to where they were at that time. "OMG, METALLICA DIDN'T KEEP DOING THE SAME EXACT THRASH METAL STUFF THAT I LOVE AND PUT OUT THE SAME STUFF OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!" SELL OUTS! THEY SHOULDN'T TAKE RISKS!!" That sounds exactly like you and a good chunk of the people in the comment section.
@@TokusatsuGamingfan Strike a nerve, did I? LOL! Resorting to name calling is just pathetic. You weren't around during the early days, as you weren't even born yet, so how would you even know what I'm talking about? Get a life and quit whining about what other people's opinion are. Just because you're a fan boy and on their jock doesn't mean we all have to be. It's music, and not all people agree what is good/bad, so get over yourself.
I've been a Metallica fan since 1989. I've never understood the fans who remained loyal to them for years only to accuse them of "selling out" when the band achieved mainstream success with the Black album. Wouldn't it make more sense to be happy for a band's success as a fan?
It was my first introduction to the band at 13 years old. So for me it was about the heaviest thing I had heard at the time. Shortly after I discovered their earlier stuff and was blown away by it. Have been a thrash fan ever since. Always thought this album was a not bad compromise between their 80s and the crap they did from 95 to 2003.
@@wesleyhalpern184 the albums were different for sure but they didnt disgrace anything. Metallica put thrash on the map, created the 3 best thrash albums ever made, and then they went on to create great music in a variety of styles... thats real talent
@@ancientgalaxy7697 i meant what i said, rtl, mop and ajfa, are withput competition the three best thrash albums ever made... i have heard of those other bands sure, they have good albums, but nothing that compares to those three
So many bands do this as they get older. Sure, its great to sit there and play the same albums over and over in front of a few thousand people but the Black Album got them to play in front of so many people they could not actually see the last row. If you dont like it, you dont like it but Metallica is a gateway drug... sure you can stay with just them and enjoy the ride but you keep listening and especially nowadays with streaming services Metallica puts so many younger people onto metal and thrash and they discover bands they would have never heard of. I would argue the vast majority of metal bands owe a portion of their success to Metallica. They are really one of the last great singular gateways to an entire genre.
One thing I will say metallica is what hook me in to playing music and cliff is what got me in to becoming a bassist as much I am not the biggest fan of there new stuff I'll for ever have the respect for the band and still be a big fan
I’ve always argued this was a risk. It’s not like they suddenly became Warrant. They may have strayed from typical thrash, but this wasn’t what was big on MTV or radio at the time.
I'm 59 and Metallica stopped being Metallica after and justice for all album!!give me lamb of god anyday!!now that slayer retired the only band from that era who still rocks hard is testament!! The first four albums are masterpieces and are the bibles of thrash.miss Jason,he was the fire in Metallica and ruled that stage every show.
The funny thing is, they made fun of those hair bands, but yet went to the producer that worked directly with those hair bands, specifically Dr Feelgood, cause of the drum sound and production, New Jersey for the production as well. lol
