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The Covert Narcissistic Husband 

Darren F Magee
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In this video Darren Magee discusses the typical behaviours and characteristics in a relationship with a covert narcissistic husband. Typical behaviours include:
Constant state of discontent and strain
Lack of assertiveness
Passive aggression
Judgmental and critical
Quiet smugness, scornful
Dismissive of wife's opinions, beliefs, experiences, needs
Self Absorbed, conceited
Ungrateful
Unable to enjoy the moment
Wounded hero
Lack of empathy
Lack of meaningful connection
Dependant on wife for self esteem
Sensitive to criticism
Guilt tripping
Gaslighting
Blame shifting
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@DarrenFMagee
@DarrenFMagee 3 года назад
The videos I make are topics suggested by you the viewer. Feel free to suggest any mental health or psychology subjects you'd like me to cover in future videos. Just a reminder though, these videos are not a substitute for support from a mental health professional.
@alisonwraight2020
@alisonwraight2020 3 года назад
Have you done any videos on covert narc mothers/fathers please?
@DarrenFMagee
@DarrenFMagee 3 года назад
@@alisonwraight2020 I’ve made videos on narcissistic parents yes
@alisonwraight2020
@alisonwraight2020 3 года назад
@@DarrenFMagee Thank you. I couldn't see any in the playlists but will search further.
@brandi5154
@brandi5154 3 года назад
I haven't really looked into it or searched for videos but I'm curious if these covert types can get professional help and actually awaken to their ways of being?
@FutureToHim7
@FutureToHim7 2 года назад
You are a wonderful psychologist !! Thank You!! Topic suggestion . How about "when the Narc husband is outwardly telling the wife he hates her " and "how the Narcissist behaves on vacations". OMGosh.. don't ever go on a three day canoe trip together ... it's the wife, the canoe and the wilderness... he gets you out there alone and starts the berating , of course it is ur fault for "starting it" like you do every time. Just a suggestion .. thank you soo much!!
@ruthbattle5922
@ruthbattle5922 2 года назад
Trying to debate a narcissist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good a player you are he will strut around the board shitting all over it, knocking over the pieces and then declare that he has won.
@mollydooker9636
@mollydooker9636 2 года назад
I’m going to remember that, playing chess with a pigeon. Brilliant,
@christines173
@christines173 2 года назад
I feel you. It makes me sad & He forgets the lie told 2 minutes ago.
@leahshinn3971
@leahshinn3971 2 года назад
Hahahaha 😁 yes that's exactly correct
@margareth1504
@margareth1504 2 года назад
Oh you made me laugh so hard, you certainly enjoy a comical overview. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
@lilydancer4826
@lilydancer4826 2 года назад
😂🤣 How true & love the analogy!!
@dodosmamma1692
@dodosmamma1692 2 года назад
This is uncanny since it describes my soon to be ex husband. Out in the world, he’s Mr Wonderful but inside the house he’s a soul sucking narcissist and I’m the crazy one.
@amberc3728
@amberc3728 2 года назад
@Chubbles85
@Chubbles85 2 года назад
It's so horrible!! And them they come back talking about how so&so thinks this about them, is so surprised by there ability for mature conversations, so respectful...blah blah blah...and then at home you get the ignorant ass that is so self-absorbed with their own awesomeness and how much everyone else likes them. ummmm, that's coz no-one else is dealing with the same crap as you 🤦‍♀️
@scuttletheship656
@scuttletheship656 2 года назад
Soul-sucking is exactly what they are...just like the un-dead
@jmalin6359
@jmalin6359 2 года назад
Yup everyone thought mine was such a great guy. Soul sucking is on point.
@brendabijak7171
@brendabijak7171 2 года назад
run
@cheryldee95
@cheryldee95 2 года назад
Oh yes, the half-assed attempt they make when asked to do ANY domestic chore whatsoever. They intentionally only do it half-way, or…somehow otherwise intentionally screw it up, and then when they see you doing it over yourself later…they will point out how - “Nothing I ever do is ‘good enough’ for you! And that’s exactly why I don’t do this stuff!”. Manipulative to the core.
@JRB09990
@JRB09990 2 года назад
Omg yes
@TheSensoryCoach
@TheSensoryCoach 2 года назад
Oh yes, this has been my experience over and over, thank you for saying this - recognising his behaviours in other‘s comments has been so helpful at untangling the insanity.
@petalparker5
@petalparker5 2 года назад
Weaponised incompetence. Weaponised ignorance. Selective memory… It goes on and on…
@hannahcallow6374
@hannahcallow6374 2 года назад
Strategic incompetence
@nd612
@nd612 2 года назад
Cheryl: Omg!! I thought it only happened to me. No one else on any Narcissist site ever mentioned this. I wonder why. I spilled my guts out so many times about this lunatic! Thank you!
@martiwalsh2069
@martiwalsh2069 2 года назад
With him in a counseling session. The counselor looked at me and said, "You've never experienced marriage." Yes, it is a sham, never a true marriage when a narc is involved.
@melliecrann-gaoth4789
@melliecrann-gaoth4789 2 года назад
Marti Walsh. Lucky you, I was blamed.
@HatRatt
@HatRatt 2 года назад
No idea was a good idea unless it was his idea.
@margareth1504
@margareth1504 2 года назад
Thats something good to realise I think. Its true, one could not experience an actual real marriage when one is a narc, so true. Makes you think, how does that affect the children if any, in that situation. Their expoaure to marriage is what?
@ericnorthman9410
@ericnorthman9410 2 года назад
It angers me that I was duped for not only the 11 years of marraige but the other many years connected to it because I didn't understand till recently that he fit the whole covert narc persona. I am grateful for these videos educating me.
@HatRatt
@HatRatt 2 года назад
@@ericnorthman9410 Why does it take us so long to see what is really going on? But we can be thankful that we didn't take any longer. I wish everybody could wake up with the snap of the fingers but that's just not how it works.
@sonoranoasis3012
@sonoranoasis3012 2 года назад
This is my ex-husband to a "T". I always said he LAZIED HIMSELF OUT OF A MARRIAGE. He did everything half-assed so I would take over those responsibilities too. I worked full time, was responsible for my son, a house, a dog and 2 cats while he was responsible for himself only. He was the most passive aggressive bastard on the planet. When my Father was dying he had no empathy for my pain. When I had knee surgery he had no empathy and sat on the couch watching TV and drinking beer while I tried to move laundry down 3 flights of stairs and back up again. I was crawling by the way. But from the outside everyone thought he was so nice. And I neglected to say he had a giant chip on his shoulder about everything. He was even jealous of his own son. You cannot love this type of person. You cannot respect this type of person. I smiled everyday and pretended I was happy for 20 years. Thankfully I was too busy to think about the pure misery. Oh and if that wasn't bad enough divorcing one of these bastards is worse than the 20 years of utter misery. But, then you escape and from that point on even prison would be heaven as long as you're not with him.
@kristinafarrugia3812
@kristinafarrugia3812 4 месяца назад
You’ve nailed it to a T. Succinct description of these degenerates. Congratulations on getting out. I’m in the middle of my divorce now. Much blessings to your future.
@lindseyw2791
@lindseyw2791 2 года назад
You have just described the last 45 years of my wasted life! Thank you for validation of my feelings of frustration, betrayal, and emotional abuse that has felt so lonely for many years.
@christbeliever4407
@christbeliever4407 2 года назад
Big hugs! I felt your wods deeply...I am in the same boat. I feel like my life could have had so much more love in it if I had not been conned by the narc. Best of luck to us both!
@amberc3728
@amberc3728 2 года назад
@julieschneider4277
@julieschneider4277 2 года назад
You’re not alone. 34 years it was, for me. Free now.
@martinekatzmarzyk1344
@martinekatzmarzyk1344 2 года назад
same here....29 years, free for a year now and LOVING it! Like a vacation with no end date!
@ardisschneider863
@ardisschneider863 2 года назад
Amen!
@seanheller6201
@seanheller6201 2 года назад
This was my father. He wore my mother down methodically for 37 years until she neglected her health and died prematurely at 57 yrs old. He took a vacation during the last week of her cancer because he couldn't tolerate the stress. It was the only time I ever had with her alone, away from his controlling, manipulative ways. It was, ironically, the most honest time I've ever had with her. The day before she died she admitted to me her entire married life was a "sham" and a "waste." She was crying uncontrollably. She had never before been "disloyal" or "broke ranks" with my father until that last moment of truth. This was in 1996 before all this information about narcissism was so easily available. She was such a wonderful person who tried to triangulate between this impossible man and me and my sibling. She had no chance. How I wish she had divorced him early on.The mental health of the family could have recovered. Unfortunately, my brother and I are still dealing with the consequences of this covert narcissist today. However, he is now 82 and we are fully aware of the mental games he still plays.... only he now plays them with his 3rd wife and a couple of flying monkeys. All his relationships with family members are irreparability broken. He has no close friends. What a sad man, what a sad life.
@sharond.940
@sharond.940 Год назад
Thank you for sharing. I was raised by a narc mother. And father with very strong narc tendencies. I've had relationships with very narcissistic men....2 of them which share the same birthday. The most recent and 2nd relationship has been very eye opening. And you stated your mother never broke rank. That was an ongoing theme with the last one. Don't break rank, he always wanted me to stick and stand beside him but would never reciprocate it. And if there was anything that resembled it, I could tell it was fake. What a relief that must have been for you and your mother to have that moment of honesty and clarity. I hope that you're healing and happy.
@LaurenBV
@LaurenBV 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing. I am the mom and soon to be x wife. How do I help my children from your point of view. At the moment my narc moved in with his mistress and doesn’t see the kids I guess that is a win.
@asideofaioli4630
@asideofaioli4630 10 месяцев назад
I used to pray for my parents to divorce when i was young. I didn't know it was considered sinful, i just thought i was asking God for something that seemed like the right thing to do. They are still married, and i still wish they were divorced.
@mindaerror2543
@mindaerror2543 6 месяцев назад
@@LaurenBV Thank you all for sharing. I am also the mom & soon to be ex-wife, except in my case, my kids believe him because I haven’t broken rank. He asked for a divorce after 27 years and, with God‘s guidance, I’m accepting it & moving on with my own life. I’m also open to suggestions or ideas on how to help my kids not suffer or be deceived anymore by him. I have 3 young adults & a 15-year-old. I worry most about my 15-year-old son because he will still be living with my ex-husband, for the longer than my other kids.
@barbarataylor133
@barbarataylor133 22 дня назад
I am currently married to a covert narcissist. Everything is my fault when something goes wrong. He is emotionally distant from me and our son , who is now an adult and does not give him the adoration he craves. My husband has cheated on me, and that was of course my fault. He had a close friend from college, but has turned his back on him. When my son got in some trouble, my husband yelled at me that he raised an Eagle Scout, and that I raised a juvenile delinquent. It is all about my husband. He likes to volunteer because he wants the recognition and adoration. He hates his job because they do not give him any recognition. Mind you he is very good at his job and should be recognized, but rather than quitting the job and finding something better, he would prefer to complain about it. I just lost my job, and now he is all upset with me saying how it is up to him to support the family. He is very resentful of me. I stay with him because I have nowhere else to go.
@ILive4Jesus
@ILive4Jesus 3 года назад
So much of what you said applies especially how self absorbed he is. It’s like being married to an eleven year old man child.
@christianpulisic7784
@christianpulisic7784 3 года назад
Jacqueline Gallagher,Your lovely smile 😊 can make the news!!
@nd612
@nd612 2 года назад
Totally. That's as far as they're emotional arrested self can grow to. Not past 11 years old. Your lucky he reached 11 in a grown mans body. Mine is 4 years old but once in a while acts like 10 - if I'm lucky..
@nd612
@nd612 2 года назад
@@christianpulisic7784 She has a nice face and smile.
@spacegirl226
@spacegirl226 2 года назад
My ex-husband wanted a mommy so he could be a little boy with his toys. My brother is like this too. He has the mind of an eight year old and thinks the world revolves around him. More and more I'm realizing I married my brother. I am grossed out inside at the thought because I hate HATE my brother. I reckon I hate my ex-husband too. Immature, bratty, selfish, rude, egocentric, and dumb.
@nd612
@nd612 2 года назад
@@spacegirl226 The first part is exactly like my husband.
@gailcrowe727
@gailcrowe727 2 года назад
I always felt that my husband didn’t value our marriage or me, he had no really deep feelings or emotions. He seemed as though he play acted at being a husband and a father. There was no affection or any emotional connection between us. If I was ill it seemed to make him annoyed and he couldn’t get away quick enough, that really upset me, especially seeing how other husbands treated their wives with care. He was very hard and cold emotionally, he even admitted this himself once. He never wanted to discuss anything, it was always his way. He used to go silent and sulk rather than talk anything through. He used to say I said things which I knew I hadn’t. I look back over 40 years of marriage now and how I wish I’d have had a happy marriage. .
@todaysrules6730
@todaysrules6730 Год назад
I cannot believe HOW MANY women are going through this same horrible experience!!! I have been dealing with this for 36 years!
@todaysrules6730
@todaysrules6730 Год назад
Your story could be mine... Every single line. If I had the guts to say it all, I'd say the exact things...
@Patsanford220
@Patsanford220 4 дня назад
Your story is my moms, only she and my dad just “celebrated “ their 50th 😢
@boudoirnoir1604
@boudoirnoir1604 3 года назад
When the apologies aren’t actual apologies 😳 I’ve noticed the underhanded comments that are passed off as “joking” when in reality they’re meant to undermine and make you second guess yourself.
@DulceN
@DulceN 2 года назад
Sooo true…..
@amandachilds5290
@amandachilds5290 2 года назад
I call them fauxpologies...like the" I'm sorry I am not the way you want or the husband you want, mother you want etc...or I'm sorry I'm not as perfect as you. Not an apology at all. It is all a way to blame shift and paint you negatively
@soniaorel3730
@soniaorel3730 10 месяцев назад
Oh my goodness. The "I was just joking." after saying demeaning things about me and then "You're so sensitive" when you get upset about it.
@roccafille
@roccafille 3 года назад
This describes my ex perfectly! It was never good enough, he was never happy, always with a long face and angry. I tried to cheer him up every day but it was never good. Then I got paralyzed on one side do to my pregnancy and still he didn’t want to help with the new born and the toddler. Then he said being paralyzed was not as bad as the cough he had and that I didn’t understand what healthproblems he was going through. I had to dump him. He was so toxic for the children and me. Now he’s spreading around all kind of lies and rumors about me because I finally found the courage to leave after 15 years. Although it is hard on my own with the 2 little kids, still a lot better then giving this childish, evil, selfish person anymore of my love! Also makes me happy that the children won’t have to deal with his immature emotional abuse on a daily basis.
@charlotteboyett-napper4780
@charlotteboyett-napper4780 3 года назад
He will manipulate the children to turn against you and hate you. Mine did that to me
@magorzatak4037
@magorzatak4037 2 года назад
I understand you well... He is always more sick than I am. But the therapist helped us a lot.
@hansschmidt9447
@hansschmidt9447 2 года назад
A big kudos to you for taking back your life! As a child to a cover, passive-aggressive narc husband, I wished my mother had had the courage to leave him. I would have strongly preferred growing up without him, no matter how difficult life is with a single mom and another sibling. I cheer you and your children on!
@amber40494
@amber40494 2 года назад
You describe what I also went through for 16 years, except we never had children. When I had breast cancer he could barely be bothered to pick me up from the outpatient surgery and then told me he was taking me off of his medical insurance at work. He was constantly ogling girls and I'm pretty sure he was finding sex elsewhere as well as being addicted to porn, Webcam, etc. When I finally divorced him he still got half of profit on house sale because I stupidly still felt sorry for him. And then he went on to badmouth me to our friends and all the while still having multiple affairs
@evabueno1894
@evabueno1894 2 года назад
Te entiendo perfectamente, estoy enferma de cancer y para el aun no estoy suficiente emferma para que me tengan que ayudar.
@83dangerweasel83
@83dangerweasel83 2 года назад
a therapist turned to me during a couples session and asked, "So what does he have to do to make you leave? Does he have to HIT you?" that was my wake up call!
@thisbeem2714
@thisbeem2714 2 года назад
God I wish our couples therapist had had my back.
@sharonthompson672
@sharonthompson672 11 месяцев назад
​@@thisbeem2714 the narcs are good at manipulating the therapist to side with them.
@SRG-fv2et
@SRG-fv2et 2 года назад
I feel like you were talking to me. This is my husband to a tee for the last 28 years. The tantrums, silent treatments, bullying. Thank you for making this video.... I am finally learning what a narcissist is...
@jillbeyea2094
@jillbeyea2094 2 года назад
I just said the same thing about my husband! Thank you for enlightening us, Darren.
@tobsternater
@tobsternater 2 года назад
A vulnerable or covert one at that!
@CandiGiampi
@CandiGiampi 2 года назад
Man... This is unbelievable.
@sahdogwrangler5594
@sahdogwrangler5594 2 года назад
Same! Married 32 years & just found out a few years ago what he is & that there is a name for what I'm enduring. Now I'm learning how to cope with it. Thank goodness I finally found a therapist who understands!
@kaystephens2672
@kaystephens2672 2 года назад
Get out. They never change.
@findingmyshine7027
@findingmyshine7027 2 года назад
Yes, you hit the nail on the head! That's what marriage to a covert narcissistic man is like. There's no validation, there's no real love. There is only being a servant and an admirer. There is no living peacefully, and in my experience, the wife has to do EVERYTHING around the house, as well as cater to his every whim.
@blueleaves
@blueleaves 2 года назад
You just described my husband of 33 years so perfectly that I had to stop partway through and pull myself back together. Thank you for validating what I've been going through.
@christbeliever4407
@christbeliever4407 2 года назад
The pain is real when you live with these evil people. For me it has been 25 yrs. Not a day goes by without feeling his wrath. As I am writing he is packing to sleep in another room. I will get a good nights rest tonight and could not be happier. I AM SO SICK OF THE GAMES!!! What is so hard about showing love? Why can they not show love to their spouse but can show love to every human besides you. So crazy!
@nd612
@nd612 2 года назад
Sure no problem. (Just in case he doesn't answer back to you)
@nd612
@nd612 2 года назад
Penney: Doesn't it hurt? It hurt to see someone else really explain this bad man in my life. I'm no longer hurt about it. I didn't know this information is well-known until I did my homework. It is not easily offered. Many councilors are not trained or knowledgeable about Narcissists and that pisses me off right there. So many I went to; to deal with this assh-le.
@nd612
@nd612 2 года назад
@@christbeliever4407 Tell me about it. The constant tug of war for something simple. To try to have a normal, healthy conversation isn't going to happen. To be with these ones is toxic as ever. Nothing ever got resolved because he would dart down the hall to his bedroom and slam the door. Ok , another night with the loser, temper tantrum of a 4 year old in a grown mans body and top engineer for 45 years. Let me outta here, (If I can only find the door )
@Munozs95
@Munozs95 Год назад
30 years here. My youth.....
@nicolaw5940
@nicolaw5940 2 года назад
This is so true to the mark. If he did the dishes it was ‘I did your dishes for you’ and ‘I brought in your washing for you’. The only spontaneous emotion was anger.
@soniaorel3730
@soniaorel3730 10 месяцев назад
When I get that response I say, "Did you eat off the dishes? So, they're also your dishes and they need to be cleaned. What makes them MY dishes? Well then, who do you think needs to clean up the dishes? The fairies?" If it is the clothes then a similar response is, "Did you wear any of those clothes? So what makes them MY clothes?"..... you can see how this goes.
@nicolaw5940
@nicolaw5940 10 месяцев назад
@@soniaorel3730 yes well thankfully he is long gone. But if I had said that at the time there would have been yelling at me slamming doors, storming and driving off with a skid and a roar. And it would have been my fault for meaning so mean as to not be grateful. Narcissists control you with anger because you’ve met met anyone like them before and don’t understand they have an unfixable personality disorder So glad it’s over.
@michellew2196
@michellew2196 8 месяцев назад
We have a saying in Jamaica- men are also born with hands. Slavery has been long abolished!😂
@LaNaye-ir2jy
@LaNaye-ir2jy 5 месяцев назад
OMG. My covert narc husband does the same thing!!! He makes sure to magnify the “YOUR”. Nothing was ever ours, except for the money I made!! POS!!
@LisaCulton
@LisaCulton 2 года назад
This is exactly what I went through for 10+ years. The part about him walking away in mid-sentence or shaking his head and laughing when I'm trying to talk to him to about something serious... wow.
@Chubbles85
@Chubbles85 2 года назад
Yep, that's mine too
@nd612
@nd612 2 года назад
They are sick but love what they are doing
@petalparker5
@petalparker5 2 года назад
Crazy making!
@tayjay1164
@tayjay1164 2 года назад
same, 20 years. So sorry, hope you are free now.
@LisaCulton
@LisaCulton 2 года назад
@@tayjay1164 I'm doing great. Thanks!
@ericnorthman9410
@ericnorthman9410 2 года назад
He NEVER listened to what I said NEVER. Imagine all your "conversations" being ignored on your side - having to repeat yourself to try to get someone to listen to you - I'd literally beg him to listen to me and he would still refuse to hear me -For 11 years he'd do that. And you're right about the convenient "forgetting" - that was continual being done over and over again. I asked myself over and again WHY he married me ? It was a pure torture that I didn't deserve ... and only recently have started understanding his real self.
@amberc3728
@amberc3728 2 года назад
@edaalessio8381
@edaalessio8381 2 года назад
This was one of the things my ex narc husband did that drove me crazy. He never listened to anything I said. He never answered any of my questions. It was like he didn’t even know I was there. Yet when he had some to say he demanded my attention. It took me a long time, but I finally divorced him, and life is peaceful again.
@watchesfromedges
@watchesfromedges 2 года назад
I recognise this! Talking endlessly about himself, occasionally asking how I felt about something or what I thought, then after ignoring or dismissing anything I said would rearrange my words and apply them back to himself as though he was creating some astounding new insight, relentless self pitying, never any forward progress and no real communication because he never listened except to steal my words. One day he turned to me and asked me why I seemed so listless all the time. So I told him the truth. He replied "I can't accept that" and our marriage of 24 years ended with that sentence.
@olinkalupu-vieru4140
@olinkalupu-vieru4140 11 месяцев назад
Same
@rosad538
@rosad538 2 года назад
I wish I’d known this stuff 40 years ago, it’s never changed and living with a covert narcissist destroys who you are. Thanks anyway for sharing.
@nd612
@nd612 2 года назад
Andrea Glover: You are so right !
@sugarpie1226
@sugarpie1226 2 года назад
My thoughts exactly and it's been 34years of mental and emotional destructive hell. Although we have been separated sev times over the past 34 years, had restraining orders etc. But I was always in therapy and our kids too. I was so much stronger and younger back then and I had a lot of determination and much more confidence and high self esteem compared to now. I want it back so I can make a plan and be motivated again to build my own life and be independent, self reliant and do whatever it takes to make it before my mind and physical health are completely damaged beyond repair. Oh gosh I am ready yet don't know what or how to get started. I have to learn and relearn many skills so I can get a job bc I haven't worked in 15 yrs. My kids are all adults now so I am able to just focus on me but it seems so foreign to me and as if I have completely lost myself. I would rather die trying than miserable and with unfulfilled dreams and experiences in life. It's never too late for change and to learn new things. However, I have no support team whatsoever and no family. I need to get some ideas and info on how and what I have to do to get moving towards the goal of freedom and independence etc. Hang in there and I hope you can find your way to happiness one day. Take care.
@butterflyyy8639
@butterflyyy8639 2 года назад
There’s always hope....❤️
@nd612
@nd612 2 года назад
@@butterflyyy8639 Yep. Good ole hope
@nd612
@nd612 2 года назад
Andrea Glover: They are the worst. What terrible mth fckrs They are. My husband is a Covert Narcissist. How long were you with yours?
@cynthiafields4611
@cynthiafields4611 3 года назад
Toxic amnesia...oh my. Never heard that listed as a trait before but boy does it fit.
@katcraig7525
@katcraig7525 2 года назад
Mine would smirk when he claimed that he couldn't recall conversations.
@loljoyful1
@loljoyful1 2 года назад
My ex had something called Oppositional Defiance. How it showed up was, when I would compliment his affection towards me, something that made me feel loved or cared for by him, he would never do it again. He did not enjoy giving love because, he said he believed I was manipulating him.
@nv7466
@nv7466 2 года назад
The devaluing is so hurtful.
@nd612
@nd612 2 года назад
N V: So true. We both have been through this sickening treatment. How dear they do this to us? They can kiss my ass. I will heal and be better than ever and I don't want to be bothered with another psycho again. If I meet another one they better run not me. 🏃‍♀️ 🏃‍♂️
@debmary2999
@debmary2999 2 года назад
I haven’t heard the term Toxic Amnesia before - it supplements the gaslighting we get. I spent 40 years trying to help my ex husband obviously to no avail. The damage this does to the caring partner is huge. Emotional intelligence should be a compulsory school topic to help individuals set up boundaries in their own life. You will never change or help a narcissist but you can learn how to live more emotionally conscious. Thanks for your channel. 👏🏻
@Rea1913
@Rea1913 2 года назад
“Toxic amnesia” resonated with me, too. I remember a period of time several years ago when my soon to be ex-husband and I were separated because of the damage he did to my oldest. I was in intensive therapy with her during the day and spending my nights - hours and hours every night - trying to bring him along and share with him the lessons we were learning in therapy. I’d try to pick up from where we left off only a day or two before and it was like I’d never said a word. It was so hard for me to divorce his word from his actions, even to see that there was a discrepancy. Even today, almost 18 months after our physical split, I am still just now seeing patterns of behavior that I didn’t recognize before for what they were. Healing is definitely a journey. Hang in there, everybody.
@cerebedlam
@cerebedlam 2 года назад
Every. Single. One. He was beyond exhausting. Leaving was a horrible mess but the relief was the greatest gift I’ve ever given myself.
@G2thesecondpower
@G2thesecondpower 3 года назад
And you just explained my 14 year marriage as if I was explaining it myself. The hardest part about it for me is, that he had such a good "good person" mask, that the cognative dissonance I experienced trying to reconcile the "good" person with the guy that put me down or insulted me under his breath and then claimed it was a "joke", invalidated my feelings, baited me with sarcasm and nasty insinuations about my character, called my "crazy" and "emotionally unstable" when I reacted to any of the aforementioned things, is THE SAME PERSON. We are split up now, and I just found out that something I suspected over which he told me I was "Crazy" for being concerned about, was 1000% true, and that he lied straight to my face, and someone else. The sad part for me is, I'm *still* trying to make sense of it. I'm still trying to make sense of the insane discrepancy between the person that made Sunday breakfast and made me a latte, or had fun with on family outings (mostly) and the other guy I previously described--somehow they are the same person. I don't know if there is any sense to be had.
@DarrenFMagee
@DarrenFMagee 3 года назад
I think trying to make sense of someone who doesn't make sense can drive a person insane. Especially when we see the inconsistencies between the public and the private face. Thank you for sharing your experience and I hope you're in a better place today.
@MrsV777
@MrsV777 3 года назад
There isn’t any sense to be made other then he is playing a role for others and in front of others; a role that he doesn’t play for you. You see the real him.
@victoriavanwolfen4160
@victoriavanwolfen4160 3 года назад
G Force.....yes! The mind screw of cognitive dissonance kept me stuck for too many years.
@diazsimone
@diazsimone 2 года назад
I am so sorry you experienced that. I have too. I still cry. It just never stops. I feel like I find out something new every single day. It is heartbreaking.
@ellasladek3124
@ellasladek3124 2 года назад
So sorry for your pain
@jayleigh5932
@jayleigh5932 2 года назад
Holidays and birthdays were the worst. Constantly pulling out of planned fun activities or needing to leave early due to his anxiety which always disappeared when "his type of people" were around. Mine told someone for 12 years that I wasn't "up for visitors" implying I was mentally ill. Sore neck, gout, headaches, irritable bowels, constantly "coming down with something" then complaining and giving the silent treatment when I just started doing something by myself or with friends. Inviting me to Friday night dinner out so I wouldn't go for after work drinks and then cancelling when I got home. The games are endless and exhausting. They constantly use your good nature and empathy against you until you are a shell of a person who filters everything through them to try and cater to their ever increasing needs.
@sharonwille722
@sharonwille722 2 года назад
Thank you so much. This was 100% my husband of 3 plus decades. I felt like I was dying. For years I just thought he was “difficult”. Ha! Pathological and exhausting. Never again.
@vjcarter4657
@vjcarter4657 2 года назад
This sounds so much like my husband. He is very “vulnerable” too, he’ll cry and be emotional about movies or events, but very, very passive aggressive and “victim”. CONSTANTLY talking about aches and pains, illnesses, trials and tribulations
@ladonnajackson2580
@ladonnajackson2580 Год назад
This is my husband and after not knowing or even looking at him as Narcissistic now I’m dealing with him and Alzheimer’s. You answered so much for me It’s been 25 yrs and I think the last 15 have been the worst. He’s 73. All I know to do is educate myself for now I’m setting boundaries for all of this and I’m healing. But I still am taking care of him. But now I know more of what I’ve been dealing with. Wow what an eye opener. And really how sad people carry this mess and they don’t see it. If I wasn’t a strong christian I probably would have left a long time ago. Thank you
@annemorgan2928
@annemorgan2928 2 года назад
You just described my husband to a TEE. I am a retiree aged 71 and he stopped working when I was about 45. I worked until I was 68 and a half. It was “wow est me” ever since he stopped working. Then he got on to watching men’s videos about how it is all women’s fault. Not sure of the content but he starts telling me it is all women is fault and I’m starring at him expressionless. I had a full career that kept him off the street because he was too precious to work. He takes NO responsibility for anything even paying bills is too much even though he has a degree in finance, computer science and applied math and theoretical math. He does not hesitate to tell me so when I don’t get something. WARNING: The younger generation is aware of narcissism, STAY AWAY, NO CONTACT. Save yourself before it is too late.
@breakfastclub75
@breakfastclub75 3 года назад
I’ve watched this twice in a couple of weeks already. This video is the only one so far that has 100 percent hit the nail on the head when it comes to covert husbands, at least mine. I don’t know, but thank you for the validation. I feel like I’m back on planet earth after watching this. Thank you so much. 🙏🏻
@christinekawira674
@christinekawira674 3 года назад
My sentiments too. 100%.
@rosad538
@rosad538 2 года назад
Same here, 💯 percent accurate description of my husband too.
@1Gibson
@1Gibson 2 года назад
Exactly my thoughts
@veronicazacon5929
@veronicazacon5929 2 года назад
100% my case as well.
@aalovelace2776
@aalovelace2776 2 года назад
Yep! Same here! Exactly like my ex.. thank God it’s over. Took almost 6 years to feel ok again after 15 years of wasted time with that idiot.
@tammycole2141
@tammycole2141 3 года назад
This matches my husband 100%, I'm saddened and out of denial....
@breakfastclub75
@breakfastclub75 3 года назад
Same.
@judyscheiber3661
@judyscheiber3661 3 года назад
Mine too. 54 years of it. Gone now. I threw him out, kept him away and divorced him going grey rock for the last few years. I am free - and lead a peaceful life.
@monicahocking1507
@monicahocking1507 3 года назад
@@judyscheiber3661 44 years for me.
@morskaprasica
@morskaprasica 3 года назад
10 years....and a 5 yr old child who already suffers cosequences of his aloofness and my frustration.
@magorzatak4037
@magorzatak4037 2 года назад
@@morskaprasica Think of a therapy. It could help a lot.
@clover6338
@clover6338 2 года назад
almost all of this applies to my husband... especially the part about "helping" with chores. Throughout the course of our relationship, he has chosen to sit and watch me do all the work - literally from his recliner - watch me hauling heavy limbs or piles of brush, or shoveling gravel when the driveway washes out. When I ask for help in the yard, he will show up, but is typically petulant and pissy, and yes, does a piss-poor job. Earlier this year he told me he really didn't have the "emotional fortitude" to use the weedeater. What? He has NEVER, in 11 years, contributed to housework of any kind other than helping with dishes after dinner. Never used a vacuum, never swept as a part of day-to-day cleanup, never dusted, never cleaned the bathroom... and I still can't get him to empty the dishwasher in the morning. He will literally open it as evidence that it needs to be emptied, but never touch what is inside - claiming that he is trying to be quiet so as not to wake anyone! PLEASE! I can't believe it has taken me this long to figure it out, but now that I have, I am grateful for this kind of understanding.
@allykatharvey
@allykatharvey 2 года назад
I have one of those too! After 45 years of doing all the housework, all the washing, doing the garden, washing the cars, looking after the children - often all alone when they were sick and he was away - I am getting tired but now in old age (he’s older than me) it has given him an excuse for doing nothing! Don’t suffer it as long as I have done. Take good care of yourself, because he sure isn’t going to!
@mandyclark6602
@mandyclark6602 2 года назад
Why are you still with him? Leave!
@spacegirl226
@spacegirl226 2 года назад
My ex-husband was like this too. I couldn't get him to help me with anything. After my discard, I had to show him how the vacuum cleaner worked because he never once touched it during our marriage. When he started washing the dishes himself, I knew something was up because he had NEVER done it before. Sure enough, he dropped the hammer and said he wanted a divorce. Now he was doing the dishes because he HAD to, not because he wanted to be thoughtful and help me out. Good riddance.
@karadiberlino
@karadiberlino 2 года назад
But honestly ladies: WHY?! 😩 Why do you play the role of cleaning ladies? I would have zero respect and couldn‘t even be friends with such a useless wiener princess... 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️
@PARoth2011
@PARoth2011 Год назад
Oh, I hear you!! The best one for me was when he asked me about his clothes and I said they were in the dryer and he could get them himself since I was busy and he said, “ Which one is the dryer?”. I sometimes wonder if I’m an enabler of this behavior but usually realize I live a single life within a married life and make the best of it at this late age. These videos help me so much, they give me validation that I’m not losing my mind.
@joyeghonghobuhari2164
@joyeghonghobuhari2164 3 года назад
You are so correct, you just described my husband. He is totally an evil covert narcissist, whom people think is so innocent and helpful. Can't wait to separate from him and live my life freely.
@kaystephens2672
@kaystephens2672 2 года назад
Hope you made it out. 21 years later I'll tell you it was the best decision I ever made. I know everyone's life has so many different variables. But it was the only way to keep physically and mentally somewhat there. After 21 years he still tries to peek into my world through my sons. No. That was never earned. That is what I earned. I hope that you are ok.
@zainabstewartstewart9585
@zainabstewartstewart9585 2 года назад
@@kaystephens2672 Kay good for you!Im dying to leave been married for thirty years!never knew about Narcissistic abuse until past few years.I have learnt allot now but he’s losing control and being more manipulative more tantrums locking things away.It is absolutely crazy!I have elder sons who are supporting me to get out of this house but also two younger ones at schools local.I just woke up this morning to do a tea and found the kettle gone!he plays games non stop.
@kaystephens2672
@kaystephens2672 2 года назад
@@zainabstewartstewart9585 you are so welcome. I will tell you I'm 61. I've been divorced for 21 years. My sons are adults too. But I see him in them. I think it's inevitable. I planned my escape for a year with my boys. It was hard and well worth it though. It's still hard, but at least you can put all of your precious energy into yourself. Your kids. Getting a divorce was the last thing I wanted. Taboo to my side of the family. Always remember this. Nothing, I mean nothing he ever said to you about who or what you were was ever true. I've watched every video, every perspective I can and the Truth is we were catering to a 2 year child in a man's body. That is the only explanation I always come back to. They do sell themselves very well in the beginning. But they are pushy, too self confident. Shortly thereafter they always show what they really are. Degrading, temper tantrum throwing babies. In truth, we tolerate these brats for the sake of food and shelter. For the hope they'll (get it). They can't get it. I know you know what I'm talking about. My purpose of this text is to spare people like you the waste of more of your precious life for you and your kids lives trying to ever even consider for 1 second you could ever "fix" them. They are a lost cause. There is no hope for them. It's not sad and it was never, ever any of your fault. I woke up this morning and my 1st thought was it's like beating a dead horse. They just don't have something we take for granted in ourselves and assume they have. And that is the Truth. Your truth. Your purpose. Your life you must reclaim. I have chosen to open up that chapter in my life since Christmas of last year when he waltzed back into my son's life. I felt betrayed and told him it was either him or me. He chose me. I urged him to see that he was only a tool and to critically evaluate their conversation. He now sees that even now, it was an attempt to gather any data he could get. Even now. I've considered suing him and if he continues I may pursue that. I have come too far to play these childish games. Stand your ground. Built your own secure foundation. I know this letter is lengthy but I went through the same thing. And really and truly, never tolerate a child to run your life. I have nothing from this person. I gave him everything but my children. Never settle for their fear to control you ever again. I wish you the best and you will make it. If I can, I promise you, you can.
@sugarpie1226
@sugarpie1226 2 года назад
@ Joy: Amen! You just described my husband and 1 of his most disturbing behaviors, that he is Mr. Nice Guy, a good dad, helpful and friendly, but how sorry many people feel for him for having to take care of everything and me bc I don't work, I am crazy, an alcoholic, mentally ill, lazy and a loser, etc. . He plays the victim and has mastered the art of it over time, yet he's a fricken nightmare to live with, to talk to about anything and he's a horrible mean nasty and shady man that is actually very antisocial but he plays his learned and rehearsed role pretty well after all these years! However, part of the role includes complete smear campaign against me his wife, to our family, 4 kids and to everyone who is willing to listen. He is a master at it and they actually believe his lies and exaggerated twisted stories about ME. I hate it for the kids and it sickens me. I have gotten so I just want to isolate and not be around them with him so they think I am whatever he says. Lord almighty! I am clueless as to how to handle and deal with this.
@kaystephens2672
@kaystephens2672 2 года назад
@@sugarpie1226 it takes time to plan. I did it by myself. Things have a way of working out. It did for me. Every time that child throws a tantrum tell yourself "one day". Always remember, you're dealing with a child and his set of rules. Never ever give up. 20 years later I'm telling you you can do this. And just because people look big it doesn't mean they're frown up. Also, remember the saying " are you kidding me?" There's a world of truth to that.
@pushyred
@pushyred 2 года назад
I've watched many videos on this topic. This is as if you were a fly on the wall for my entire marriage . You nailed my x-husband's behaviors 100%. Divorced 10 years and I'm still healing from the neglect and emotional abuse. But I'm getting better every day! Thanks!
@rieleylove31
@rieleylove31 2 года назад
This is my husband EXACTLY, and I’m trying to find a way out…
@Chubbles85
@Chubbles85 2 года назад
Same, but I don't have a way out till the kids are grown. They would hate me as they love their father and don't understand/comprehend the complexities of the relationship. I waste no time trying to please him, I can't stand being in a conversation with him for more than a few minutes and I constantly challenge his delusional state. I refuse to just tolerate the shit any more. Unfortunately my kids don't see that I'm on edge because of the traumatic nature of being in a relationship with someone like that, and that I'm just a bitch because I argue with him. I hope one day they see beyond his delusional outcry of 'I've done nothing wrong', 'it was just a joke', and 'you expect too much'.
@mariemcknight6015
@mariemcknight6015 3 месяца назад
me too
@jacquelinem1960
@jacquelinem1960 3 года назад
Divorcing a Narcissist I think is a much needed topic . So easy to marry so hard to get a divorce. They take this very personally. Everyone will ask what's wrong with them. Mine placed an objection to my terms (costing silly money) and then counter - sued me for divorce. Also triangulation; how they use others in particular, for you to focus on. Mine used his friends in particular one constant person in our lives . Constant dramas unfolded , making him look like the good guy until that person was banned from the house. Also work, which they use to camouflage their inadequacies , so they don't have time to emotionally invest in their families. Work is a great excuse. You then look like the bad guy when you ask them for more of their time. When you say you are divorcing them ,everyone, especially their families point to how hard they work for their families . Making you all look so ungrateful.
@DarrenFMagee
@DarrenFMagee 3 года назад
Thank you for your suggestion, it’s is a topic that has come up a few times. I’ll make a video on that
@krissysturgul1677
@krissysturgul1677 2 года назад
Omg! You just described my life!! Going through a divorce now after being married for 25 years. He has purposely dragged it out causing us both to spend a sick amount of money on the legal games just to punish me. Very sick individuals.
@catsinhouse
@catsinhouse 2 года назад
Try divorcing a narcissistic judge. Try to get a decent divorce attorney to represent you in that situation.
@jacquelinem1960
@jacquelinem1960 2 года назад
@@catsinhouse I cannot imagine it. It's stalemate. I'm battling . This is known as Coercive Control and it needs speaking out on. This is a crime in itself.
@margareth1504
@margareth1504 2 года назад
I knew one of those guys working so hard for the family, pity party every day, oh poor xfftyuj! You must sit down! Relax! He received money from family to help him out etc etc- turned out, he had a gambling problem hidden by his tiredness of looking after the family and working long hours, doing do gooding. The people who gave him the $ handouts to help him - remained in denial about the the gambling. They asked him. " Do you have a gambling problem? " He replied. " I. have. gambled! But I dont have a problem? They said. "See! I just asked him outright, and he said he doesnt have a problem! That opens your eyes.
@karenperryunraveled
@karenperryunraveled 2 года назад
Thank you Dr Magee. I came across this video today “by accident”- at a time in my life where I am all but finished in my marriage- feeling like I am going crazy- because of the cycles we have been in for 14 years!! I have been told for so long that it is me that I woke up one day to find that I have left all I have loved, lost all of my confidence, and become a home body to “keep the peace”- but it doesn’t make a difference! Your words gave me hope- put things in perspective- and confirmed what I believed but couldn’t confirm- until now. God help me in knowing where to go from here! Thank you for cracking open the door!
@divinet3771
@divinet3771 3 года назад
I’m having an aha moment!! This describes my situation to a t! I cannot believe this had been right under my nose all along. What resonated the most was the self-deprecating comments of never being good enough for me and what do I expect from him. Basically always playing the victim. I carried the guilt all these years of always being the monster in his story.
@mushka6202
@mushka6202 2 года назад
But then accuse you of “playing victim”, if you mention something he did that hurt you, right? Master manipulators.
@christbeliever4407
@christbeliever4407 2 года назад
Is that not crazy or what? Why do they have so much hate for the one who is not the monster? Why can they not just love you and be kind? They just canmot do it....EVER!!!! :(
@Canela_824
@Canela_824 Год назад
This is a perfect description of my marriage. Also, they withhold sex and any emotional needs.
@veritas6345
@veritas6345 Год назад
Mine NEVER wanted to have sex with me. He always refused me. Now i know it was an ecstatic JOY for him withholding sex and intimacy, the utmost pleasure to this evil sadic liar.
@Tawadeb
@Tawadeb 10 месяцев назад
Yes
@melissasprayberry5047
@melissasprayberry5047 4 дня назад
Emotional needs are what I personally need to even begin to want the other. How can anyone want to have sex with someone who talks to you like they do and abuse you? It’s sickening..
@syronsmorbierm3
@syronsmorbierm3 3 года назад
I believe this is my husband of 1 ½ years. He is always negative. Speaks negatively about himself. He has tremendous life accomplishments, but calls himself a loser. If I speak of my pain, he is either silent, or makes it about him and how bad things are for him. He stonewalls, gaslights, and shows no emotion. I can be weeping my eyes out in pain, and he just sits there, then says “I am sorry I am a disappointment”, or “I am sorry I am a failure”. He is extremely sensitive and always thinks the worst. He punishes me for any comment I make that isn’t positive about him and his family. His granddaughter is disobedient, back talks, lies, and very disrespectful, her mother looks on in amusement. Although I love her dearly, it causes me great anxiety when she is at our home. Instead of showing me any kind of support, he says things like “you hate my family”, I can’t ever have my family here. He punishes me by not having romance, showing me affection, and no intimate relationship. He is in therapy, I am getting back into therapy, and we see a couples therapist. I know that I cannot change him. His mother is a covert narcissist, and his father overt. He has to have a paradigm shift within himself. I don’t know how this can or will come about. I do know that I will not live like this much longer.
@DarrenFMagee
@DarrenFMagee 3 года назад
I hope you get the help and support you need. Thank you for sharing
@ellachallas
@ellachallas 3 года назад
Your comment took my breath away. My fingers feel like jelly and I’m shaking as I type this. You wrote what I have been living. I have been married seven years. The hardest thing, is that he acts like this when he drinks. When he doesn’t drink, he’s a pretty good guy. He doesn’t always get drunk, either. But he always acts this way. He has to stop drinking, entirely, in order to stop it. Alcohol “induced”narcissism 🤦🏻‍♀️. Best of luck to you. Sending prayers up for both of us!
@maryoconnor9956
@maryoconnor9956 3 года назад
What is your timeline for leaving this loser. You deserve much better. Being by yourself woukd be better.
@kerlened.9115
@kerlened.9115 3 года назад
I totally agree with you looking for a way out. Save yourself the damages. I've been married to 1 for 13 years, and I'm working on doing the same. It's too much to bear. We as women, even moreso humans, deserves Best. Enough is enough.
@Goldie1201
@Goldie1201 2 года назад
It doesn’t get better with time in my experience. I hope you have gotten out and found a better path and partner too if you’re ready.
@traceyvickery7304
@traceyvickery7304 3 года назад
Hi, I've never written a public comment on here before but this video was like someone reading back to me, a description of the last 8 years of my life. I'm beginning to wake up to the abuse I didn't realise I was taking. The only thing missing was the tortuous control behaviours like checking my phone and not letting me even go to the bathroom without him checking what I'm doing, the stonewalling, turning my kids against me, not allowing me to have showers or look after myself. The ways in which these men torture their whole families is horrific. I thank you for being so clear and concise and this has truly helped me validate that I'm not nuts. He really has been doing these things to us. Thank you so much.
@LaciRae
@LaciRae 2 года назад
i was identifying right along with you until you said he wouldn’t let you take showers…why??? what was his reasoning???
@scuttletheship656
@scuttletheship656 2 года назад
@@LaciRae because if she started to take care of herself and build up her self esteem, she would figure out that he is nothing but an abusive piece of 💩
@carolmuir2997
@carolmuir2997 2 года назад
@@LaciRae ...he sounds like the corrupt Warden at Shaws hank Prison...
@spicyphilly
@spicyphilly Год назад
Wow. I went through the same thing with a man-child. I couldn't leave the house alone, couldn't talk to anyone alone, couldn't go to the bathroom or shower without him right there, no privacy, the door had to remain open, he'd lock me inside the apartment we lived in that he picked out for that purpose. It had doors that couldn't be unlocked from inside and high small windows up against tall thick bushes (he thought I wouldn't figure out how to get out, but I did just to get fresh air and be in nature while he was gone getting his drugs). He'd beat me up later if a man looked at or complimented me while we were in public. He'd say if was my fault. He'd threaten my life. Ugh. I could go on and on, but it gets graphic so I'll stop. What a horrible, horrible person. I can't believe I made it out alive.
@mingbotlarue5694
@mingbotlarue5694 2 года назад
This is my husband.... I've listened to this five times now and I can't stop shaking
@amberc3728
@amberc3728 2 года назад
@BluebonnetShelley
@BluebonnetShelley 2 года назад
Much of this applies to my husband, and it’s so good to know that I’m not a nut case as he has worked very hard to make me believe. It took me 30 years to finally figure out his problem, but for most of those years he had convinced me everything was my problem. I guess I’ll deal with him till I die, but I pay much less attention to him now and don’t really care what he thinks about anything anymore.
@omagaga8798
@omagaga8798 2 года назад
The very picture of my life. For over 35 years I ‘ ve been asking myself if I lead a happy family life. I loved my husband and ignored some of his traits because they were in the background as soon as he lead an active businesslike way if life. I was actually content. But since rent all the above listed characteristics have become the only core. In addition he broke connections with our grown-up children blaming them for not having reached high professional positions and suffering extremely himself calling them names He Broke connections with his brother ( for old financial problems) and uncle ( for criticism). True I am the only person I know still having contact with him, which has become cold and superficial. We stopped celebrating birthdays and holidays and inviting people or going on visits, because the table conversations centre round his personality, he is talkative and not stoppable. My question is whether narcissistic people are aware of their disorder? Will therapy help? They suffer a lot , too, and cannot enjoy normal life 😞
@Indyghurl
@Indyghurl 2 года назад
@@omagaga8798 hi, and well done fir sharing your story. In answer to your question he won't change. They can't, the chemicals released in his brain won't allow him to change, he gets a high from letting out that narcissistic anger/rage. Look up the cycle of abuse, read Why does he do that, by Lundy Bancroft, you can download it for free too or get a hard copy to read whatever you prefer. We too have a similar chemical release which can be explained as trauma bonding. Think of how you felt when you first fell in love, the chemicals released are the same as when we have a child, or bonding chemicals, BUT, here's the rub, those exact same chemicals are released when we are afraid, in flight/freeze/flee mode. So when the same person under two different scenarios is causing same chemical reaction in us, that's why it gets so confusing, ie, he loves me, he hates me. I left my husband of nearly 3 decades, 3 years ago, divorce pending. It's not been easy, but living on my own without constant criticism and fear is definitely way better than living with him.
@SueDenimDomDenim
@SueDenimDomDenim 2 года назад
You have described my husband exactly. Double standards taking joy in inflicting emotional abuse never understanding other peoples feelings always turning things around back to him. He even blamed me for his infidelities
@lilaburning420
@lilaburning420 Месяц назад
I swear, this man regularly calls out my dad! It’s awesome that someone understands- so validating! Thank you! 👏🏻
@Mkr7942
@Mkr7942 Год назад
You have described my husband to a T. It took me 13 years to realise it what is it that I am dealing with. I have been utterly exhausted last 4 years, acting like an almost single parent and single cleaner/ cook/laundress for him and our child. People like you and dr. Ramani are saving lives. I didn't even know that an issue like this existed. All in one week, I realised: I am married to a covert narcissist and/ because: have been raised by one. Grim but determined to get out and survive.
@MrSoskiKrota
@MrSoskiKrota 11 месяцев назад
Chances are that if you have been raised by narc that you have some of the traits too, even if you had been in opposition to everything your parents say. Good luck in your journey!
@Mkr7942
@Mkr7942 11 месяцев назад
@@MrSoskiKrota I have begun to recognise them, and the danger that I might raise one if I don't rectify certain behaviours in myself. It's quite a journey!
@tammycole2141
@tammycole2141 3 года назад
I think this kind of the Narcissist is the most difficult, I'd rather deal with the grandiose instead, so sick....
@expandhealthinc.1887
@expandhealthinc.1887 3 года назад
For sure!
@amandachilds5290
@amandachilds5290 2 года назад
I think we are the types that avoid the grandiose and these coverts know that and pretended to be opposite until we committed to the relationship. And then I noticed most of us stayed for very long time over 15 years in most comments. We were keepers, they knew it and did their best not to lose us but made it hell when it didn't need to be because we are genuine but the exhaustion and mind games can only be tolerated so long and either they cheat and we leave or we emotionally check out like grey Rick method or just having tried everything say times up. In the end they self sabotaged the good thing they had and know it but hate the good thing instead of seeking help to stop their disordered behaviors. Just my opinion
@anndevlin7411
@anndevlin7411 2 года назад
@@amandachilds5290 makes a lot of sense Amanda.
@shelwilk9984
@shelwilk9984 3 месяца назад
Spot on! You have have described my husband of 25 years. I try and I try but nothing changes. I love him but I’m at my wits end. He was my high school sweetheart and I thought about him all my life after my mother broke us up after 30 years, we got back togetherand I thought our lives would be perfect. But little by little he tears me apart. Thank you for your insight and opening my eyes.
@pamelalawrence1425
@pamelalawrence1425 2 года назад
Excellent video! Short and To the point which I appreciate. Definitely have learned a lot about covert narcissist and now have separated from my husband after 36 years of marriage and really do feel that this is what he was. Would never acknowledge any attempt on my part to communicate if I was unhappy about something or we had an issue that needed to be addressed he would be extremely defensive, or dismissive, unresponsive, at times or would simply turn and walk away.
@sfnerd2023
@sfnerd2023 2 года назад
Thank you so much, Darren! My ex was exactly like this, and if I get any thoughts of “oh, he wasn’t that bad!” I watch this video to ground myself back in reality. Thank you!!
@Sooz3112
@Sooz3112 2 года назад
So much of what you mentioned - I've been experiencing. Gaslighting too. Thank you, it gives me courage to keep my head held high and remain focused to transition back to being fully independent again. I'm glad I'm a strong person, otherwise I would have been driven into the ground by now and I won't let that happen. After 10 years of marriage, I have come to realise that I will never truly understand him and I'm not going to waste my life trying to help someone who doesn't see the need to change. My husband had counselling to help him deal with his negative mindset, but he just used it as an opportunity to portray himself as a victim and a hero and he portrayed myself as the one with the problem. It's a shame he doesn't see himself how everybody else sees him....but I can't do any more x
@user-ii3vn8tn3q
@user-ii3vn8tn3q Год назад
Trained not to have opinion, trained not to have expectations or wants.
@AChippendale
@AChippendale 2 года назад
I've got chills. You just described him perfectly.
@afancher2763
@afancher2763 2 года назад
You just described the piece of garbage I divorced a year ago after 7 years of “marriage”… I have been healing over this year and am finally seeing the beauty and joy in life that can only be seen after an experience like narcissistic abuse. The other side is an amazing place to be and I have come to be grateful for this experience and look forward to my future every day.
@karadixon1806
@karadixon1806 3 года назад
The gift thing happened all the time it made me so sad nothing was good enough for him. This video is exactly my 16 year marriage I’m so exhausted and I feel like I’m insane I’m stuck he is so good at gaslighting me our entire marriage and blame shifting. This video was so eye opening thank you it was something I realized but couldn’t confirm because he is SO good at it.
@sharonmccarthy586
@sharonmccarthy586 2 года назад
This is an exact description of my marriage. It could not be more accurate. It lasted 17 years and it took me another 15 to get him to go away. He lived on the same street as me. Refused to divorce and when we did took mine and my daughter's home, bankrupted me and left us homeless by relentlessly fighting me in court. In the end I gave in and gave him the house we had bought together even though I renovated it and I paid the mortgage. It's taken me 3 years to get even a bit recovered. I feel I am starting to heal now I am no longer his target object, my daughter is doing ok. Thank god for videos like this one. I know I am not the mad one. The crazy lady. He said I was a narcissist insist I was an abuser. All the time it was the other way around. He wpuld sit and drink beer while I cooked cleaned decorated gardener. I have a physical disability. He did nothing and if he did hedidit so badly I usually finished it myself. I was his servant housekeeper cook savings account child minder. I don't know where he is now and I hope I never do. I think it was the enduring goal of my life that I would be free of him. I am 57 but I I did it!
@amuddymoose
@amuddymoose 2 года назад
Same
@bridget9432
@bridget9432 Год назад
I’m so glad your daughter and you got out.🙌🙌🙌
@jolesliewhitten6545
@jolesliewhitten6545 2 года назад
I remember how I proudly presented my Covert Narcissist husband with his favorite opera-something I saved for and hunted for-he was disappointed and forced me to return it. Nothing was good enough. He never consummated our marriage. I was faithful for 20 years.
@TSBOFRLM
@TSBOFRLM 2 года назад
Are you saying that you have never had sexual intercourse with your husband of 20 years?
@christbeliever4407
@christbeliever4407 2 года назад
What is the deal? My narc never had sex with me on our honeymoon. 25 yrs of marriage amd I have my own room. Sex is not on the table. I sure would love to be touched and held. I do have a sweet dog though and she gives me hugs every single day. Without her by my side I would be alone in this world. She is getting old now though so im kinda afraid of how I could live life without her.
@jolesliewhitten6545
@jolesliewhitten6545 2 года назад
@@christbeliever4407 , leave this useless person. Christ never intended for you to be so neglected-NEVER. GET OUT AND FIGURE OUT WHY YOU MARRIED THIS SELF-Absorbed narcissist. Heal. Find a good, normal human to love and get loved back! ❤️
@LadyBugShaun
@LadyBugShaun 2 месяца назад
I don't understand m you were married for decades and never had sex?!
@gloriadonahue7241
@gloriadonahue7241 3 года назад
OMG! This video describes my narc husband perfectly. I'm going to save this video and watch it over and over again. I'm even going to share it with my best friend.
@LaciRae
@LaciRae 2 года назад
share it with your husband.
@chirologypalmistry
@chirologypalmistry 3 года назад
Thank you for explaining so clearly. This is my ex to a T. For 16 years I believed him - that I was the problem and the source of his unhappiness. He'd say "when you get to first base we can start our relationship." He whined and complained about everything. I only learned about narcissism 6 years after we separated. Still joining the dots. This information has been very helpful.
@DarrenFMagee
@DarrenFMagee 3 года назад
Glad you found it helpful, and hope you're in a better place today
@chirologypalmistry
@chirologypalmistry 3 года назад
@@DarrenFMagee infinitely better yes! :) thanks :)
@kittyplushie
@kittyplushie Месяц назад
this is pretty much exactly my soon-to-be ex husband. thankfully we don't have any kids or property but this hasn't been easy whatsoever. it's taken so much time, money, and emotional energy out of me. i don't even recognize myself anymore because of how stressed i am. praying that things only get better from here on out
@valerieward4044
@valerieward4044 3 года назад
Thank you. To hear it being explained begins to finally make sense to me now. Yes, always needing praise for the small little jobs he does, praise over & over again, if I don't keep praising him, he gets the sulks & says I don't appreciate him enough. It is so draining living like this. Almost our 20th anniversary coming up. Nothing I do to avoid him getting upset works. So good to have this knowledge at last. Now I know that it is not my fault.
@christianpulisic7784
@christianpulisic7784 3 года назад
Valerie Ward,You are beautiful 🌹🌹🌺,hope you are not with a narc 😈!!
@oscarwilliamson6163
@oscarwilliamson6163 2 года назад
Valerie Ward,You don't need a narcissist in your life.....
@KizetteandTotoro
@KizetteandTotoro 2 года назад
Everything you have mentioned is spot on. Unfortunately, the alcoholicholic I made the mistake to marry ticks ALL the boxes. It is exhausting...
@lesliecarlson9984
@lesliecarlson9984 2 года назад
Me too
@cmsbeth
@cmsbeth 3 года назад
I purposefully chose my ex 's therapist because I wanted someone who knew him! It was the first time I heard him described as a covert vulnerable narcissist. There was no turning back once I knew the term. His reality was all that mattered.
@roxannetaitano1490
@roxannetaitano1490 2 года назад
This video just highlighted everything for me that I have been experiencing recently with my husband. It has given me clarity and understanding to put his fire out. After 41 years of dealing with this I now understand how manipulative being married to a covert narcissist has undermined the integrity of my marriage. Thankfully your comment validates that "with knowledge comes power", and "I deserve better!"
@venicer772
@venicer772 2 года назад
Toxic amnesia... So that's the name for it. My husband had an affair 3 years ago. He refused to tell me anything except to blame me for it. Then he started "forgetting". Now he can't remember anything he did or said. It's all so convenient.
@m0L3ify
@m0L3ify 2 года назад
The way the quiet smugness showed up in my last relationship was when some random accident would happen where I'd trip over something or drop something - sometimes actually hurting myself - and instead of being concerned and helpful, he'd retort, "That's why *I* always [xyz]" (emphasis on the I) where xyz was whatever he 'always' did to prevent such foolish accidents, and if I'd only just do things they way _he_ did them, I could have avoided such unpleasantries. And, it should be noted, he didn't actually always do these things. In fact, he never did them. He just liked to feel above it all when I was down and to rub that in my face as if it was a personal failing on my part. Whenever I called him out on it, he'd suddenly play the victim, claiming he didn't mean it that way and I just had to stop misinterpreting his words. What a pitiful existence to derive self-satisfaction from others' suffering. I don't miss him in the least.
@TheQueensWish
@TheQueensWish 2 года назад
That sounds horrible. What a miserable jerk.
@lucyanders5580
@lucyanders5580 2 года назад
Toxic amnesia...this really got my attention. I've been wondering about this for a very long time, whether it was the result of a medical issue or feigned or just a lack of interest. The more I watch these videos, the more I see that I've dodged a bullet. Thank you for sharing this information. Best wishes. 🍀😊
@lynnkalles2055
@lynnkalles2055 Год назад
My husband of 25 years laughs when I tell him that he broke my spirit a long time ago 😢 I've learned so much from your videos. Thank you for all that you taught me. Just knowing that i am not the only person to have a narcissist husband has helped to open up to our friends and family. To my surprise, everyone already knew. They've just been waiting for me to figure it out ❤
@thebluehare.
@thebluehare. 10 месяцев назад
Literally, the best description I've ever heard. I come back to this time after time. Thank you Mr Magee
@cziganyy
@cziganyy 16 дней назад
If i hear the words unappreciative, ungrateful and disrespectful one more time from my husband, I will lose it.
@jadeoshaunessy8407
@jadeoshaunessy8407 4 месяца назад
They refused to be pleased
@nontechsavvy
@nontechsavvy 2 года назад
F me, this video woke my Narcissistic butt up, thank you for posting, going to watch this vid every morning to remind myself to not be this way b/c my marriage is on thin ice and I know why even more now
@startnewtherapy9918
@startnewtherapy9918 3 года назад
This is uncanny. You describe my husband 100% here and his sister 100% in your covert wife video. I'm speechless!
@DarrenFMagee
@DarrenFMagee 3 года назад
I’m glad you found it helpful
@Alexandra-ci4py
@Alexandra-ci4py 2 года назад
His biggest weapon is the silent treatment and emotional withdrawal. He iis the master of the direct cut and a skilled breadcrumber. None of this is immediately apparent because it presents as interesting arrogance.
@oscarwilliamson6163
@oscarwilliamson6163 2 года назад
Alexandra,You don't need a narcissist in your life.....
@clairemoorhouse625
@clairemoorhouse625 2 года назад
I feel a huge sense of relief hearing this. I knew I wasn’t to blame 🤷🏽‍♀️
@ashlyntyre7781
@ashlyntyre7781 Год назад
This man is a genius!! This video came at such a unique time in my life, and never ever have a seen someone articulate Convert Narcissistic personality disorder is such a marvelous way. Whether or not all or even none of these points applied to my situation I am enthralled with how intellectually aware this man is! Bravo!!!
@lorraineclark-sako6749
@lorraineclark-sako6749 2 года назад
Excellent description! This was my life for 24 years. I wished I'd understood this personality so long ago.
@debminnich
@debminnich 2 года назад
YOU NAILED IT!!!! 22 yrs with this guy! I KNEW I wasn't crazy... thank you. I'm 62... what now 😞
@amberc3728
@amberc3728 2 года назад
@zoey6983
@zoey6983 2 года назад
And ....The Silent Treatment
@dswilliams2686
@dswilliams2686 Год назад
If I didn't know better I'd think you've had a video/audio system in my house for the past 36 years. You have this so precisely correct.
@esterbroug7216
@esterbroug7216 2 года назад
This is so real for me, unbelievable. Everything is falling into place. So glad I took the steps of leaving a few months ago. We are splitting up. The house is for sale and I am buying my own flat at the moment. My partner doesn't know what hit him. He is facing a very capable lady at the moment, and he hates it. And shows nearly all of the thins in the clip. Thanks for the info, Darren.
@brendarudman8806
@brendarudman8806 3 месяца назад
My mother used to say to sibling," Everything is too hard for you", whenever she asked him to do something for her He hates helping family but he will help a stranger😮😮😮
@jmj5388
@jmj5388 3 месяца назад
Same with my narc. He won’t lift a finger to help around the house, but he’ll volunteer at church or do things outdoors (mowing lawn, shoveling snow, etc.) where he can be seen being industrious. 😣
@brendarudman8806
@brendarudman8806 3 месяца назад
@@jmj5388 They like to impress people My sibling is too scared to return faulty items to Takealot because he's scared for what the driver will think of him but in this house he swears ,baffs and doesn't give a damn what I think of him
@lisamr40
@lisamr40 Год назад
Yep! You described my husband to a tee!! I think the toxic amnesia is what really gets to me the worst. That's what makes you feel like you're the one going crazy. Thanks for this video.
@Ashtenbutters
@Ashtenbutters 2 года назад
This describes the husband I am about to leave, after 6 years of feeling like something was "off" and trying to change myself to be what he needed. He was never satisfied and regularly told me I didn't appreciate him, not matter how much I tried to show him I did. The only thing that confuses me is that he is a very good caretaker. If I'm sick, he rubs my feet, gets me medicine, etc. But he is also somewhat controlling about it - telling me what medications I need to take, that he has a prominent "doctor friend" that can prescribe me something, and such. He also seems very "unaware" of really anything going on around him. For example, he will know I'm sick but tells me how much he wants to take off for a spontaneous weekend getaway because he misses having me all to himself. He will talk loudly to me when he sees me on the phone, when I'm watching a movie with my kids, etc. He is making me feel guilty about leaving and trying to wear me down. For someone who is already very prone to guilt, this is really affecting me as I try to plan for my new, peaceful life.
@itisfinishednowtimetoclean2723
@itisfinishednowtimetoclean2723 2 года назад
A relationship with a narcissist, vulnerable narcissist etc., is an oxymoron. As I’ve said many times; I lived half a life for more than 25 years, the worst part; it wasn’t even mine. Controlled, monetarily, bullied by threats of another Rage, controlled with attitudes that felt toxic…. I could go on. Looking back I can honestly say I Saw Red Flags, I hushed my instincts that said, “Do Not Do this!” But I thought I could show him how to be ok. WRONG! The “relationship”, instead taught me these types don’t change and are holier than though…. Often vindictive and ugly shadows, of what you thought were just a person with some issues, easy to dismiss because we all have issues. The Big Difference is you might know/experience that you can improve on yourself, but they see no need to! Run, far and fast, the quicker you do, the less you suffer…
@tashasmith2245
@tashasmith2245 2 года назад
Boy do know it!
@Tawadeb
@Tawadeb 10 месяцев назад
Speaking to me!!
@lindajohnsonkaplan647
@lindajohnsonkaplan647 9 дней назад
The birthday gifts, yes. For his 35th birthday I bought an antique steamer trunk to store his albums, which had been in plastic crates. He exploded. He wanted a surprise party for what he considered a big birthday. Never mind that we had moved to a new state and didn’t know many people so a party would have required travel for the friends that he expected. After they had just traveled for our wedding three months before. He wanted me to return the trunk (I kept it because it’s beautiful). He was later fired by his medical practice (he now calls himself a “retired” physician). Everything is always someone else’s fault, including the frustration of his partners. He displayed the same helplessness at work as he did at home.
@skepticaloptimist7444
@skepticaloptimist7444 2 года назад
You explain the characteristics in a way that is clear enough to sweep the doubts away and recognize how long these cycles continue to play themselves out predictably. After 43 years of marriage, with clear boundaries in place I won't allow him to cross I still find myself feeling guilty because he is so unhappy, but strong enough to understand why. Thank you. I'm so grateful to you.
@Chubbles85
@Chubbles85 2 года назад
Wow, just wow. You sound like me in another 30 yrs. I believe you are a very strong woman. I have gotten to the point where if my needs won't be met, I won't be meeting his. If I don't agree I say it how I see it, regardless of whether or not it starts an argument. I just don't care if he gets cut any more. If I have to tolerate his uncaring sh!t, then he's just going to have to tolerate mine 🤣
@christbeliever4407
@christbeliever4407 2 года назад
I set my boudaries as well. It really is hard to see them so unhappy. It's like they want to be sad 24/7 until someone besides the spouse is around. Then he lights up with his fake joy. Kinda sad to watch him be 2 people.
@dloqi
@dloqi 2 года назад
Good video but one thing you’re missing is the element of control. It’s one thing to be so insecure that leads them to act this way, but then there’s the more diabolical part of the intentional sabotaging in order to control the spouse, to play with her emotions, to bait her into a fight, to sabotage important events or even minor tasks if he knows it will cause an upset.
@anastasiahenrymugala
@anastasiahenrymugala 3 года назад
Everything said here is so accurate...omg i have watched so many narc videos,but the content in this one is spot on....
@ninagrainger4427
@ninagrainger4427 6 месяцев назад
This is the BEST description of my husband ive ever heard!...soon to be my X..🎉🎉🎉thank you sooo much..🎉
@paulaplanslife4018
@paulaplanslife4018 2 года назад
This is my exact experience!! Your insight is incredible. You put into words the exact things we deal with on a daily basis! It's hard to explain to someone else what you're going through. It's so subtle and when you examine one instance at a time, you do feel as if you are the one in the wrong or are going crazy. But you know things are not normal, not right.
@1vonehrenkrook
@1vonehrenkrook 2 года назад
‘She deserves so much better than him.’ I felt like you spoke this just to me. Thank you.
@Chubbles85
@Chubbles85 2 года назад
It's good to hear someone say it right, especially a male 🤣
@CAmom75
@CAmom75 2 года назад
WOW! I am going to listen to this again later, and write out all the points.
@maryoconnor9956
@maryoconnor9956 3 года назад
These points are spot on. I was marrief twice and both ex husbands were exact versions of your description. This is so helpful in my healing journey.
@jackpetersen7545
@jackpetersen7545 2 года назад
Mary O’Connor,You look gorgeous 🌷🌹,Hope you are not with a narcissist!
@KamikoManning
@KamikoManning 8 месяцев назад
Every word.. Every single word is so on point that it makes me cry..
@veronicazacon5929
@veronicazacon5929 2 года назад
Spot on! 😂 it took me 15 years to figure it out on what is going on with my life in that relationship. Thanks for this video!
@yuriat1927
@yuriat1927 3 года назад
Perfect 100% description of my covert narcissistic father and how my mom and I suffered from his attitude.
@chartist9665
@chartist9665 2 года назад
And silent treatment too... An excellent video, thank you.
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