The Coyotes ASU Agreement and Next Year's Ticket Prices

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@blitz9742 2 года назад

I thought there would be a really cool opportunity that could have been taken advantage of while the team is on a university campus to sell the game to students with cheap tickets. You'd lose more money, sure, but the building would be an absolute riot night in, night out and I think could help foster interest in the team.

@ShadowWalker-ng1it 2 года назад

Nope instead we'll see no students in the stands within a university campus

@blitz9742 2 года назад

@@ShadowWalker-ng1it it's a shame they didn't take advantage of that

@byst33 2 года назад

Never gonna happen lol. You want as many people as possible buying $14 beers, and students are poor and many are under age

@drivethru6155 2 года назад

@@byst33 Exactly, it's a wonderful thought, but concessions are a huge revenue generator and you won't get that from a student population.

@drewleevy5420 2 года назад

Imagine going to ASU and having a professional team on campus and can’t go to the games because of the price.

@rotherhamutdfan7400 2 года назад

Would totally love to see a madness board on ticket prices to see how these compare and how each market varies from one another!

@zealandl.1372 2 года назад

Yes

@mightymacaque 2 года назад

Would have to make sure the units are the same if THG was to do it. If he uses prices straight from the teams, it might be different between Canadian and American markets. Would have to convert them if they're not already (maybe put both?).

@brandonsmith5488 2 года назад

Make this happen!

@brandonsmith5488 2 года назад

@@mightymacaque that would take like 3 seconds to convert

@TwoNNsB 2 года назад

That would be super cool to see but it might be tricky for THG to pull off as a straight up comparison considering the difference in value between USD and CAD, and the differences in some provinces and states having sales taxes and some that don't have them

@allybean100 2 года назад

For less than a ticket in Arizona, I did the flight package the Canucks used to offer. Flight from Victoria to Vancouver, transfer to the arena, lower bowl ticket and a flight home the same night. I think it was like $250

@traumamed9449 2 года назад

Yeah, the Coyotes management is insane if they think their pricing is going to fly. I am in the Tampa area and go to 10+ regular season home games a year. Usually costs $100-150 for good seats, lower level center ice. Season tickets for lower level center ice are around $5-6K, and that is for your back-to-back defending Stanley Cup champs. I sit lower level center ice at Bolts playoff games routinely for 200-300, and had phenomenal seats for a Cup game last year for around 400/ticket. I lived in Phoenix 10-15 years ago. There were no hockey fans there, no one cared about the sport, and the Coyotes have only hurt their brand more since then. No way a Phoenician is going to spend $100+ for a regular season ticket to a team that perennially sucks. Every night will be "broke ASU student special night" $15 tickets just to get some bodies in the place. Poor Coyotes have been run into the ground.

@allybean100 2 года назад

@@traumamed9449 I caught a game at Amalie arena a few years ago while on vacation in Orlando. I can’t remember what we paid but they were pretty cheap, it was before the back to back cups though

@ibtoogood4u 2 года назад

Was this in the 90s? A ticket to a PRESEASON game in 2010 vs the Coyotes when i lived WA was like $150 for a nosebleed seat

@allybean100 2 года назад

@@ibtoogood4u the Vancouver trip? I did it twice 2015 and 2016

@ToaastyKoyote 2 года назад

@@traumamed9449 The game has grown massively in the last few years. They want to keep the team here cause the game is growing

@aemaz7287 2 года назад

As you stated , they need to increase prices but I was paying about $30 per for my season ticket. This is a 3X increase. So I am no longer a season ticket holder.

@spark__plug2009 2 года назад

less seats leads to more competition for a seat which leads to higher prices

@Zaghzackio 2 года назад

@@spark__plug2009 which leads to your franchise being run out of town

@staceyserene2436 2 года назад

@@spark__plug2009 thats if there was actually demand for those seats. First few games will be packed cause people will be curious of the hilarious building then I bet there will be lots of empty seats

@laraia98 2 года назад

This is crazy to me that in 2018-2019 the lowest season ticket package was almost $800 dollars that came out around $17 dollars a game now they want 89 dollars a ticket for the same package witch is a 72 dollars more I don’t blame you for giving up your ticket I would have to

@justjohnny420 2 года назад

@@spark__plug2009 supply and demand relies on there being a demand though

@jonmendelson1104 2 года назад

While the Cow Palace for the Sharks was a lower capacity building, it still had 11,089 seats which is more than twice the capacity of the ASU building.

@BTG077 2 года назад

It’s an interesting venue. The Seals tried to play there but were shut down by the league. I went there a few times for the short lived San Francisco Bulls ECHL team, and I found it to be an interesting arena.

@jonmendelson1104 2 года назад

@@BTG077 The only Bulls game I went to was at the Shark Tank during the lockout season. (I had the 10 game ticket pack for a few seasons before and up until 4 years ago so the team contacted me and offered free tickets to that game). I went to the Cow Palace for a few trade shows (I think that's what they're called) in like the late 90's and early 2000's and I might have seen Monster Jam there too (I saw it once and I'm thinking that might've been the location, but it was 20ish years ago), but never any more standard sporting events.

@BTG077 2 года назад

@@jonmendelson1104 The arena now plays host to the San Francisco Shock of the Overwatch League. Which is esports.

@jonmendelson1104 2 года назад

@@BTG077I don't really follow any esports (I used to watch some of the WoW stuff back when I played it) but it could be interesting to check it out at some point if I'm bored and the tickets are reasonably priced.

@xwhalerfann6 2 года назад

when the lightning and sens came in they both played their first season in small arenas under 10k lightning at the expo hall and the sens at the ottawa civic centre.....it was only 1 year though

@dennis3351 2 года назад

I remember being a Whalers fan when the Hartford Civic Center roof collapsed, and they were playing in nearby Springfield Mass 7400 seat AHL arena. Of course the entire economics was different and prices were not increased then. Average fan then could actually afford games without taking bank loans even. I miss that era.

@BoleDaPole 2 года назад

If an NFL team can play in a small stadium temporarily ( LA Chargers) then I don't see why NHL teams cant

@DasBoot83 2 года назад

@@BoleDaPole the Chargers had a solid stadium deal in the works at that point. Arizona is flying on a wing and a prayer that the Tempe deal goes through. Big difference between temporary and indefinite.

@arkrazor354 2 года назад

OK. First, I'm a full STM to the LA Kings and the Arizona Coyotes. I just renewed for a full season to the Yotes in the new arena at ASU. I'd like to think I did some research here before I pulled the trigger, especially since I'm not a local resident. 1. Morals clauses are not unusual for business or ASU deals. 2. The Yotes will be permitted to have their logo on the ice. However, the ASU pitchfork will remain and cannot be covered for TV broadcasts. 3. A pricing map was sent to each of us STM's before the selection window opened for us. The selection priority was done on a combination of seniority and $$ amount spent on season tix. I was about at the 55% percentile of being in line. The richest/most senior would be the 1%, the newest/lowest would be 99%. 4. My season rep confirmed what I had seen. The Yotes raised the ticket prices AFTER the process started. Why? Probably b/c there was a large demand for tickets. 5. Furthermore, when it came to be my turn, I could see which seats were available in green. The white seats were not available. Guess what, most of the bigger $$$ seats were in white. An occasional single green seat was available down low. This would support that sales are brisk. There was much more white than green on the live map when it came to be my time.. 6. My season rep also confirmed that full STM's will only be able to sell 12 games a year in the secondary market. Half plans will only be able to sell 6. 7. Most of the arena where the Yotes shoot 1 out of 3 periods did not have any seats available at all. I cannot confirm, but have heard, that those will be available to ASU students at a discounted price and will be non-transferrable on whatever app they have. 8. The lower bowl only has 11 rows, which is pretty much the entire stadium save for a few premier boxes up top.

@mattlabrecque7842 2 года назад

I wish the league was this commited to all their teams.

@bcg241 2 года назад

They are, other teams just don't need this. Arizona is a weird example where a huge market has a team in need of help. It's sad that it's come to this, but things can change fast. Look how quickly the Islanders went from literally homeless to one of the most valuable franchises in the NHL.

@mattlabrecque7842 2 года назад

@@bcg241 They've needed help since '97. If the league were this committed to the original Jets they'd still be there.

@GordonSlamsay 2 года назад

if the league was committed to the Coyotes, they'd have been in Houston a decade and a half ago.

@mattlabrecque7842 2 года назад

@@GordonSlamsay Gary is all in on the Coyotes

@maeyko. 2 года назад

Just for anyone's information, a Coyotes insider, Craig Morgan, has reported that the Coyotes WILL have their logo at center ice. They just can't remove anything ASU puts on the ice, but the Coyotes are allowed to display their logo for games. We aren't quite sure what the looks like right now, but the logo is not disallowed.

@samuelfrick3475 2 года назад

Yep that’s what I heard too

@DanielC__ 2 года назад

Good. That’s the bare minimum for a home team.

@AndrewDorsey27 2 года назад

I think it’s really unfortunate that years and years of poor ownership/ management have gotten them to this point. I think the fact that one of the best players in the league right now grew up going to Coyotes games shows that hockey can work in the desert. I have a soft spot for the ‘yotes and I feel for the fans. It seems that current ownership/ management is committed to putting a good team out there, so I hope that they can rebuild and be a winning team

@drexxler138 2 года назад

Ya let’s hope management comes through. They would have spend a lot of money upfront with the hopes of making it back at a future date. And every owner of the coyotes has never wanted to fork the bill to make money.

@Beaver98 2 года назад

This feels like Leaf prices and I was expecting it to be closer to Sens prices. As a student, I could get tickets to Sens games in the upper bowl for ~$30 CAD and it seems like, seeing as they are on a University campus, they would want to have prices that are more affordable for students

@AV57 2 года назад

ASU has one of the largest campuses in the US, so they may be banking on some rich college kids being able to buy tickets at the spur of the moment. They might be more likely to go than your typical snow-bird or retired senior citizen that is very common across Arizona.

@bradweinberger6907 2 года назад

@@AV57 that's a really cheap ticket. Oilers tickets for upper bowl are over $50 for sure.

@mcvee_ Год назад

When I was going to ASU I could pay $15 to sit behind the Coyotes net on the first row of the upper bowl, it was awesome. Of course making the drive out to Glendale on a weeknight was less than optimal but still, I feel for the kids there now who don't get to experience something like that

@lylewhitfield3210 2 года назад

The issue with these ticket prices is it makes it extremely hard to attract new fans. I have no doubt the arena will sell out when the Coyotes play well established teams (rangers, leafs etc) but the whole point of keeping this team in Arizona was to "grow the game". If new fans have to pay $120+ per tickets then that's just not gonna happen.

@philippemineau2015 2 года назад

Yeah and the arena is on a university campus. They could have made it to attract students, who will at some point get older, make kids and then bring them to the games. They should have at least devoted a section of the building for students only and sell those tickets for a fraction of the price

@lylewhitfield3210 2 года назад

@@philippemineau2015 Agreed, its a major missed opportunity if they don't at least offer a student discount.

@sz7313 2 года назад

They are not selling any tickets in advance in the section that is the ASU student section. They will all be student rush tickets and game day sales at reduced prices.

@jaysleeper264 2 года назад

That's the best part of this plan, them harming their future. Less families can afford to go, less kids getting excited for the team/sport, building those childhood memories with the team, less kids wanting yotes shirts.

@sz7313 2 года назад

If any national media covered anything positive about the Coyotes, you would know that isn't going to be the case. Through their foundation and partnerships with equipment companies, they have provided street hockey equipment to almost every elementary school in the Valley, and they replace equipment for free if it breaks. They have done clinics for PE teachers to help them teach skills to their students. They spend a lot of time in the community (the last two years of Covid not withstanding) visiting Boys' and Girls' clubs, Chicanos por La Causa after school programs, etc. Their alumni group and other NHL players retired in the Valley (and there are a lot of them), serve as volunteer coaches for both learn-to-play and Junior Coyotes programs. And that is not even getting into the Arizona Kachinas, the girls' hockey program. Thanks to the efforts of Olympian and Arizona native Lyndsey Fry and the late Matt Schott, participation in girls' hockey is growing faster in Arizona than any other state in the country. The Skatin' for Leighton event, which honors a Kachinas player who died from cancer at the age of 9, has raised over $150K over the past two years for girls' learn to play programs and scholarships for equipment, ice time, etc, so lower-income girls can continue to play the sport. Oh, and the 19U, 16U, and 14U Kachinas all finished second in the country this year, and the 19U team had its first Division I college commits.

@pedrofarnsworth3192 2 года назад

Maybe they will be able to sell out at those prices a few times early in the season, but I can't see many people spending $90 plus in mid February to go watch the Coyotes battling their way to the bottom of the standings.

@dleatherman4539 2 года назад

two months into this season, the Yotes will be trying to paper the house with $20 tickets when they see the abysmal attendance. What they should do is what the Lightning did when they had a new owner in the 90's, they made every lower bowl seat a $1000 season ticket. Sold out in a heartbeat. Their entire plan was to fill the house no matter what and then raise prices once they had their crown. It worked.

@rocksmith3796 2 года назад

this is a win win win win for asu hockey the coyotes the nhl and the city.....the writing is on the wall....just because they don't reveal it doesn't mean they don't know the new arena will get approved and are planning accordingly.....the fact that AEG is involved speaks volumes.....welcome to the new normal where nothing makes sense unless you're in control!

@drg6161 2 года назад

Fun fact: I currently pay about $110 per game at Gila River. My new tickets will be about the same price. Where I'm actually saving money is that I don't have to waste gas to drive two and a half hours round trip to Glendale (not to mention the time I'm going to save and the mileage and wear and tear on my car). I think where the numbers are getting wonky on this is people aren't factoring into the equation that every seat is lower level and close, so you're losing all those cheap seats on the second level or the ones that are 20 rows back or whatever on the lower level. Also worth noting, the move to Tempe puts the team a stone's throw away (literally) from Scottsdale which is one of the wealthiest places in the country. I have a feeling that these tickets become a luxury item due to the exclusivity and the limited availability and that draws in an entirely new crowd that can afford these seats and will probably start to use them as a status symbol. I personally can't wait for these games. I think they're going to be once in a life on time opportunity, they're going to be rowdy and they're going to be a ton of fun. It's going to be like watching Metallica play in a sports bar.

@roseford5536 2 года назад

Couple of things to correct: 1. The season ticket prices don't include the "bleacher" student section that is being reserved for ASU students. We don't know how much those will cost yet. 2. The Coyotes will have a logo at center ice this has been confirmed by ASU sources from Craig Morgan and Cameron Cox. They just aren't allowed to cover (physically or digitally) the ASU logo.

@joshuastevens2432 2 года назад

Also, as reported by Craig, the “good behavior” clause is also standard for ASU when dealing with another group/entity. This wasn’t geared and put in their specifically because of any previous issues with the Coyotes and Meruelo

@FutureZek 2 года назад

Let me get this straight: One of the top "party schools" in the USA is holding the Yotes to a "good behavior" clause? LOL

@dumbcow1 2 года назад

ASU is not top party school anymore. They bulldozed all the old frat houses, and all the fun shit has been squashed. Now, ASU is #1 in innovation. XD

@hockeybolts7671 2 года назад

They are already on double secret probation!

@fancypie123 2 года назад

On the "competing advertising," you're actually pretty spot on, though considering the lack of coke ads in a lot of stadiums, save for at their concessions, I feel like the better comparison right now would be Sony vs Microsoft. ie. If ASU has an ad on their boards for the Xbox series X, Arizona would be unable to place ads for the PS5 on the boards when the Yotes play

@sz7313 2 года назад

The Coyotes already signed a contract with OVG to handle their advertising and partnerships. That is the same group handling it for ASU. That just makes sense.

@fancypie123 2 года назад

@@sz7313 that's true. It's also the easiest way to prevent any overlap, so I guess it shouldn't be all to surprising.

@davidmorrison2157 2 года назад

I think if the arena doesn't go through in Tempe then they will have to admit defeat and move. There are a couple good options in Houston and Kansas city. I for one would love to see the Quebec Nordiques return and have a modern day rivalry with the Habs. But that is just a dreams.

@pomerlain8924 2 года назад

With the Battle of Alberta about to start, it would give us a glimpse at what the Battle of Quebec would be like if QC could get a team again.

@DanielC__ 2 года назад

I’d absolutely die for a QC return but for whatever reason, I’m not familiar, it doesn’t sound like it will happen. Houston or Kansas City seems more in line with what Bettman wants.

@RealFM25 2 года назад

Coyotes fan here from Yorba Linda California. Thanks for making this video!

@richardludwick5716 2 года назад

For a struggling team that’s a crazy amount to charge. I traveled to an Avalanche game in January against Buffalo and got lower bowl tickets for 140$.

@ericw1314 2 года назад

They are probably betting that all of the Snow birds will be paying for those seats to see their favorite team. Especially in a 5000 seating. As an Avs fan, this may be a good ticket

@QuinnHockey412 2 года назад

Yeah, Yotes are driving people away. Avs are also very well-priced.

@sz7313 2 года назад

But the most expensive seats are already almost sold out.

@locdar 2 года назад

The Coyotes and Blues are coming here to Kansas for a preseason game in September, tickets are $200 for on the glass, $90 for lower bowl and I think the cheapest are like $35. I haven't been to a NHL game, so I'm looking forward to seeing them come here even if it's just a preseason game

@nomame6329 2 года назад

Surely Kansas City is cheering for the blues while St. Louis is cheering for the Chiefs?

@HBKshowstopper 2 года назад

Maybe the Coyotes should move to Kansas City? Just a thought. I could picture KC supporting an NHL team.

@locdar 2 года назад

Maybe they should move to KC. But they're not paying in KC, they're coming to Wichita for their preseason game

@mithex8414 2 года назад

just sucks that there's still so many places in the states that haven't embraced hockey. greatest game in the world, they just need to give it a shot

@locdar 2 года назад

@@mithex8414 if the NHL would do a better job of marketing the players and the game then we could see an expansion of the fan base.

@-KYUSS- 2 года назад

The amount of gambling ads on every NHL game is a bit disconcerting.

@gabrielpoupou1479 2 года назад

Unwatchable without NHL app

@shawklan27 2 года назад

Same thing has been a plague in football for years now is now in the nhl. Goddammit

@Kdawg1287 2 года назад

I got season tickets to the Florida panthers for all 41 game for $300 bucks for the 2013-14 season. They also gave me a parking Pass and a free jersey which paid for itself. I sat in the lower bowl all season long. My season rep handed me so many complimentary tickets for friends and family. It was a pretty awesome season. So many players I got to see up close.

@GinoTopGun 2 года назад

This is insane that this situation is happening in the NHL in 2022-23. It’s embarrassing. Come on and just move the team

@RandomGuyCDN 2 года назад

If Arizona was a Canadian team I have 0 doubt that Bettman would have shipped the team somewhere else. NHL has done it before.

@kftc1980 2 года назад

Boise or Salt Lake

@pomerlain8924 2 года назад

@@RandomGuyCDN Exactly. He never even fought hard to keep the North Stars from leaving MN or the Whalers from leaving Hartford.

@melanisticmandalorian8909 2 года назад

@@kftc1980 I can't wait to see the Salt City Moronis, take to the ice.

@ruler1422 2 года назад

they arent moving no matter how much people say that

@v1__rotate 2 года назад

I did an actual double take the first time I saw those prices. I was able to buy Stars tickets this year for $30 or less almost every game. Even the round 1 tickets I bought were less than the Coyotes are going to charge for regular home games

@roadtrip2943 2 года назад

20 years ago we'd get stars tix on street a block away for 2/3 face lower bowl and only miss 5 mins 1st period. They had a real good team then

@wpgmikejones 2 года назад

The lengths the NHL is going to bend over backwards trying to keep this team in Arizona is pathetic, and really sad when there are markets in Canada/US BEGGING for a team. You can't tell me a team in Quebec or Houston would make less than the Coyotes are. Bettman's little vanity project has completely tanked. I can't believe the other owners signed off on this farce.

@brianhum8765 2 года назад

I've been saying it for years; how the owners, fans, etc. continue to allow Bettman's love affair to weigh the rest of the league down like a fucking anchor is ridiculous.

@MisterVercetti 2 года назад

At this point, it's legit starting to feel like sandbagging, like Yotes ownership is deliberately trying to alienate what tiny fanbase it has left in order to make relocation not just ideal, but practically necessary. Why else would they nearly _triple_ ticket prices, in a crappier arena, when even their _current_ attendance figures won't fill ASU to capacity without significant away crowd effort? Bettman might want to tread lightly; his desperation to salvage his "hockey in the desert" experiment might just cost him - and the League - more than they're able to pay up.

@ruler1422 2 года назад

the current attendance numbers double the size of the arena. the fans are giving them one last chance to get it right

@tombraider2500 2 года назад

If the new ownership really wanted to relocate, they could without all the drama.

@mikeblanchard7579 2 года назад

@@tombraider2500 nope they can't, Bettman has been fighting tooth and nail for 15 years to keep them in Arizona

@tombraider2500 2 года назад

@@mikeblanchard7579 Bettman can’t do anything without the support of the Board.

@mikeblanchard7579 2 года назад

@@tombraider2500 lol believe what you like

@coltonbarker5906 2 года назад

I'm a die hard Yotes fan since I was little and went to see them for the first time against Vancouver, in Glendale. I would be eternaly crushed if they ended up leaving the state. They're a hard working team with a bright future with amazing fans. They deserve a resurgence.

@Huayra21 2 года назад

I agree the stupid owners fucked them over which just hurts to say

@AndrewSmyk 2 года назад

Everything around the Coyotes would not be tolerated in any other professional sports league. Coyotes already circumvent the salary floor by trading for contracts of retired players.

@pedrofarnsworth3192 2 года назад

It's a sad joke. So many cities that could actually support an NHL team get the cold shoulder while the least profitable team gets to play on life support for 3 more years.

@wagglewiggle 2 года назад

The nfl has done it a bunch. The chargers played in a soccer stadium for like 3 years and only had opponents fans showing up. It's a stain on the league but it's happened before

@maxpowr90 2 года назад

@@wagglewiggle That's the thing, at least the Chargers had a future home. The Tempe deal isn't even finalized. If the Tempe deal is dead, just move the team. It has failed in Arizona.

@wagglewiggle 2 года назад

@@maxpowr90 a future home where they aren't even in the top 10 most cared for nfl team

@shawklan27 2 года назад

@@pedrofarnsworth3192 preach brother

@dumbcow1 2 года назад

In terms of the good behavior clause, as an Arizona State University alum. I can assure you, that the good behavior clause is in every single contract that ASU makes with any outside entity. This is not a weird thing that was put in for the Coyotes. The center ice thing, it just says ASU controls whats at center ice, not that ASU logo is exclusively at center ice. The verbiage only states Coyotes can not CHANGE it. My understanding from what I've heard is that ASU and Coyotes have already agreed to have both logos at center ice.

@VexJinks 2 года назад

Can't wait to see a completely empty ASU building during a Coyotes game. They'll have to digitally add fans to the seats.

@hockeybolts7671 2 года назад

I can’t wait for them to be evicted for bad behavior!

@mr.robertdobalina9199 2 года назад

Looking forward to the ticket price vid I was hoping to see some Coyotes games in person, but yeah…. it’s looking like the prices are going to be too steep for me

@eyekantspele 2 года назад

I am predicting zero sellouts this season for the coyotes, unless they somehow make the playoffs. $450 for one ticket is waaaaay too much money to see a struggling team.

@tenringer 2 года назад

As a yotes fan and ASU grad, I'm kind of bummed about the ticket prices. That being said, I'm absolutely furious about the constant misinformation being put out by Strang et al. There is no "good behavior" clause specific to the Coyotes, these are standard contract terms, especially for a university. Also, the contract says that the Coyotes can't alter what ASU puts at center ice, but it has been confirmed that both ASU and the yotes will be represented in the logo. Are we ever going to address the egregious false reporting around the Coyotes, or are we just all okay with this? Should we AZ fans just accept forever being outcast from hockey culture? It's pathetic. Please refer to Craig Morgan's reporting if you want the actual details.

@brientaylorcohen 2 года назад

They did the same thing to Atlanta 😡. Hang in there, ignore the noise, and cheer for your team. From a Whalers fan.

@xwhalerfann6 2 года назад

the rangers a bruins killed any chance of the whalers staying in hartford ....they wanted that market for themselves....if the both folded i wouldnt care

@tacoma_tj Год назад

@@xwhalerfann6 We lost them when we lost Ron Francis. Civic Center needed a renovation, and Karmanos didn't help much tanking season tickets. Also, there was guy named Governor John Roland. Something about using state funds to build a guest house and a hot tub...?

@masonbechtol5312 2 года назад

This whole Coyotes thing is crazy. Things like this don't happen in the modern sports world. Especially in the major leagues. This was what happened to teams in the 60s and 70s in leagues like the ABA and WHA. The owner wouldn't have any money to pay the players and the team would fold mid-game. It was a crazy time back then. this seems so much like an old 1972 team.

@LeagueOfJared 2 года назад

I've been a Coyotes fan since I was a kid, born and raised in the desert. Played hockey as a kid, went to their games all the time. This ASU deal is making me terrified I'm going to lose my childhood team...

@gabetalks9275 2 года назад

You better start preparing yourself, but I really think you'll have to be very lucky to survive this. Put on your cowboy hat. Ya'll are headed to Houston. Let The Battle of Yeehaw begin.

@wagglewiggle 2 года назад

It sucks but unless something dramatic happens I don't see how they don't move

@duanemcneill6237 2 года назад

Maybe once Matthews gets there it will help keep the team in town.

@ElmerFudd16 2 года назад

@@duanemcneill6237 Why do people think Matthews would wanna play there?

@chrisg1556 2 года назад

@@duanemcneill6237 lol never going to happen. If he does leave toronto ( i doubt he will ) it will be for a city like NY or LA. Nobody wants to play for the coyotes and that includes Matthews.

@EditorVJAS 2 года назад

That the arena the Yotes will use is about 2800 less seats that the building built in Saskatoon after the failed Blues bid (before they expanded to over 15K seats) in itself a good chuckle.

@triandfit1 2 года назад

I remember the NHL saying that the Nassau Coliseum was too small for NHL hockey in its current form, so they must totally want the Yotes in the desert because this is ridiculous.

@otaviofrn_adv 2 года назад

Bettman is fighting tooth and nail to not lose the desert

@joshuastevens2432 2 года назад

The Coyotes will have their logo at center ice. The CFO of ASU had stated previously that both teams would be represented. ASU also came out today and said that the Coyotes logo will be at center ice. Here is the quote from ASU: “We will have both the Coyotes and ASU logos on center ice. The Coyotes are prohibited from including any of their other normal in-ice branding. They are also prevented from digitally covering up our logo on their broadcasts."

@brandobob1371 2 года назад

Hey Hockey Guy, long-time watcher, first-time commenter. I've been a fan of the Coyotes since I was 5 during the 97/98 season. The no logo at Center Ice may have done it for me. That's....that is too much.

@benjaminlynch9958 2 года назад

The ‘no logo at center ice’ has already been debunked as fake news by both ASU and the Coyotes. The Athletic won’t bother to ask the simple questions, but fortunately Coyotes fans can always rely on Craig Morgan to get the facts right.

@996TheHowl 2 года назад

Don't worry, the Coyotes logo will be at center ice along with the Sun Devils logo. Shannon is wrong here. It was reported weeks ago that both logos will be on the ice.

@dylanward9446 2 года назад

@@996TheHowl no it wont

@996TheHowl 2 года назад

@@dylanward9446 yes, it was reported by Craig Morgan (Coyotes beat writer) weeks ago. The recent Athletic article is wrong, and has led Shannon to believe this falsehood unfortunately.

@GdashO 2 года назад

ASU was the center of a point shaving scandal, I don't think they'll change their mind on betting.

@peterpike 2 года назад

If I was as rich as Elon Musk, I'd buy all the seats for one game and then be the only fan to show up, just to guarantee the refs can hear what I yell at them. :-D

@philtorrez4198 2 года назад

Legendary troll move

@martinlatour9311 2 года назад

That would be fucking epic lmao

@MotaDhesi 2 года назад

Pretty sure you don't need to be the richest guy to buy up all the tickets to a yotes game. Haha.

@GordonSlamsay 2 года назад

Phoenix already averages 1 fan/game

@996TheHowl 2 года назад

Shannon, you're incorrect. It was reported weeks ago that both logos will be on the ice (Sun Devils and Coyotes).

@xtratoasty 2 года назад

@99.6 The Howl are you on Instagram?

@996TheHowl 2 года назад

@@xtratoasty lol such an odd question. Do you want me to be on Instagram?

@jwoahlnt 2 года назад

As a Toronto fan/prisoner I would kill for these ticket prices.

@gocanuckurself1 2 года назад

Prisoner 😂

@hassam363 2 года назад

It's hilarious a college has an NHL hockey team by the balls.

@rickf9807 2 года назад

I really do feel for Arizona fans. I would not want to see any fanbase lose their team. That being said, this situation is bad and an actual plan needs to be in place within a year. If not the team will need to relocate, I would be for Milwaukee, the name would go well here. The Ads could then move to Madison. The market is not as big, but there are natural regional rivalries here with IL, MI, and MN. There is also a large hockey fan base and youth hockey has been growing like crazy, having an actual NHL team would double that growth and they already have an Arena to play in and share with the Bucks.

@joshstorch3315 2 года назад

Only problem i could see is alot of NBA teams hate sharing with hockey teams so why would the Bucks agree... Just saying

@jackbreh2788 2 года назад

The teamis going to houston if they get relocated. Everyone has known this for 4 years now

@nysportsfan42 2 года назад

When my father had to give up his Ranger full season tickets because he couldn't justify the expense, the price at that time (about 5 years ago) was very similar to the price the Coyotes are charging for their cheapest seats. However, there's a huge difference between being an Original 6 franchise playing at MSG and playing in a 5,000 seat rink where you're not the primary tenant

@gr4608 2 года назад

Correct. Grew up in NYC . By comparison, These Coyotes Tix are still a great deal . Cmon on out to Az !!!!

@BHenz1006 2 года назад

I ended up getting half season tickets (21 games) to San Jose next year. For a 200 level ticket dead center ice 9 rows up it was $1,150. Honestly, that’s not bad at all. I know they aren’t on the best trend (going down rather than up) but that’s quite reasonable for even someone like me who’s 19 and doesn’t make much more than $25k a year… It came out to about $45 a game. Very reasonable

@jaredcook4577 2 года назад

Good job!

@kryten09 2 года назад

And thats the "shark tank", not a college hockey arena. Imagine paying those AZ prices at the new "sharks ice"/ Barracuda" arena. Yikes!

@BHenz1006 2 года назад

@@kryten09 I believe it was somewhere in the $600 range for full season for the new Cuda arena. I just figured if I’m driving an hour and a half either way I’m gonna go see NHL games rather than AHL. Ised to have AHL season tickets back in Rochester

@SilverPortal 2 года назад

I’m not a fan of Arizona but I’m an enthusiast of hockey and am a fan of the league. This situation with the Coyotes is absolutely embarrassing. I actually feel really bad for the players and the fans. This should have been handled differently, the fact that this situation is at the current predicament is mind boggling.

@TheCluelessMan 2 года назад

When idealism meets reality you often see strange things occuring that boggles the mind. Bettman can't yield and inch due to his idealism and personal stake in (hockey in the desert/sunbelt). The Thrashers relocation to Winnipeg hurt him on a personal level and he is determined to keep the Yotes in Arizona as long as he is the commissioner, irregardless of the financial costs.

@ThePillzburry 2 года назад

Hard to compare the "cheap" seats at the new arena to any other arena even lower bowl in a nhl arena is like 25 rows deep but the ASU one will be like 10.. and steeper so just geometry says that the worst seat in the house is probably a pretty good one. At most arenas I would expect to pay 100 bucks or more to get in the first 10 rows. Obviously you do cut off access to people that would be willing to go to a game for 50 bucks and sit a mile away from the ice but you have a LOT more money in the Scottsdale/Tempe/Mesa triangle than over in Glendale. I think they are gonna do pretty well with ticket sales, you will have a lot more people that are interested in seeing a game and willing to pay 100 bucks but didnt want to spend 3 hours driving to the game in Glendale.

@csharp48 2 года назад

But a lot of those seats are bench "seats" with no cup holder. Not typical to pay that price to not have an actual seat and nothing to hold your drink

@schumdav 2 года назад

I still can't believe the league gave the "ok" to this plan. Does not make sense. Who can afford the tickets? Crazy.

@terryslota2224 2 года назад

send moron bettman an email...

@dougmartin8555 2 года назад

The Yotes are still stuck in the Central Division where all the games are a long distance away!

@miccrhaafetl5101 2 года назад

i work for one of the other university hockey program in Arizona. Its going to be interesting, would be cool to see yotes player around the rink when we play ASU. also, we're close to finishing our on campus rink, where's our NHL team. lol

@volcanope 2 года назад

The Albuquerque Coyotes!

@Reddog794 2 года назад

It is still rocking me that they are playing in an arena smaller than a Major Junior team, and not have their logo on center ice.

@samuelfrick3475 2 года назад

In terms of the logo, I was informed they just can’t remove the ASU logo on the ice. The coyotes will still use their logo on center ice, they just can’t remove the ASU logo

@terryslota2224 2 года назад

who the f cares....

@andrewmarwick4880 2 года назад

@@terryslota2224 And the logo will have Sparky sticking his fork in Howler...he's done.

@niftyfiftytwo1484 2 года назад

Everything else being everything else... I'm just really happy we're going to keep the kachina jerseys in the league. They're amazing!

@TheMur28 2 года назад

The kachina jerseys are the only thing about the coyotes that I have a positive opinion of. And yes, that means I consider that their mere existence led to Auston Matthews as a negative as well. (I’m a Sens fan, anything that makes the Leafs better is a negative)

@willlaney 2 года назад

To help put these prices in perspective, I am a hurricanes season ticket member at $36 a ticket or 1512 total, but the cheapest tickets are $21 a ticket or $882 for a full season and another thing that I think is overlooked with prices is that parking is not included which I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s $20 a game for Arizona or an extra 820 per group

@777poco 2 года назад

good point and the university probably gets to keep the parking revenue

@richardjohndrow3365 2 года назад

It would be one thing if they already had a new arena being built but that’s not the case so it’s just very strange.

@timothypietrzak5684 2 года назад

We are definitely planning a trip to Az to check out a game or 2.. maybe twice a year.

@AdvancedGroomers28 2 года назад

Could you do a video on the first arenas of nhl teams? I'm curious about some of them like tampa bay was in a temporary arena before the main one was built.

@bethany_dawn5222 2 года назад

The Lightning started playing in Expo Hall at the Florida State Fairgrounds. It was an 10,425 seat arena before moving into the Florida Suncoast Dome (Tropicana Field)

@davidwalker1982 2 года назад

That's why it's always nice to see teams like Toronto get bounced early. They make their tickets just outrageous and no real hockey fan can afford to see a game, let alone a playoff one without forking over what feels like a months rent.

@mathewlee5712 2 года назад

Why Phoenix market so important? Atlanta and Houston are bigger markets. Many current NHL markets had previously experienced relocation before getting a 2nd chance. If Bettman is so worried of never returning to PHX if the Coyotes relocate, it just shows you how weak of hockey market PHX is. It's a shame that Bettman never made any effort to save the Jets & Nordiques back in the 90's.

@Vegaslocal 2 года назад

Here is the secret to getting fans in the stadium. Any stadium. WINNING. If you have a bad product, its difficult to sell at any price. You're welcome!

@raymondigor 2 года назад

ASU! can’t wait to use the Yotes arena as my new study spot

@gocanuckurself1 2 года назад

Watching Arizona home games next year will be fascinating

@shawklan27 2 года назад

Yep

@AndrewPalmerMTL 2 года назад

One question could be - what was the price structure for the 5,000 most expensive seats in the Glendale building? If you consider the idea of being in the old stadium and just not selling tickets at all except for the most expensive 5,000 seats, how would that have compared to what they are doing now? (Montreal, where I am, would be similarly eye-watering if you only counted the most expensive 5,000 seats in the Bell Centre, I suspect). It's still a sticker-shock effect, but maybe they can sell those tickets to a small audience if that's kind of what they did before?

@tantalos60 2 года назад

You make a very good point. I went to one game in CBUS this year. Lower bowl seven rows from the glass. 120 bucks. Shoot twice zone and a great seat in the corner.

@drexxler138 2 года назад

I had tickets on the glass in Arizona and they were just under 300$ per seat, included the club membership too.

@sz7313 2 года назад

It's apples and oranges. People from the East Valley with money don't like to travel to the West Valley. Period. Yes, traffic is bad, but there is a perception among a subset of East Valley folks that the West Valley is low-class and dangerous. That is all tied up in local politics, and yes, racist attitudes.

@andrewmarwick4880 2 года назад

@@sz7313 The demographics of the East and West Valley aren't that much different. Have you been to Mesa lately? The wealthy Coyotes fans are in North Scottsdale and Cave Creek, which are only slightly closer to Tempe.

@griffdog18 2 года назад

I'm an Avs fan and I go to ASU. I would love if students could get discounted tickets so I could see my Avs up close. That would also probably help fill out the building

@tchevrier 2 года назад

the experiment in Arizona has been a complete failure. Nobody cares about hockey down there. You would be lucky if hockey got 2 seconds on the local news broadcasts. Most people who go to the games are not paying full price for their tickets. And I completely agree with you. If you are trying to build a fan base, you need to make it affordable. And you won't be appealing to the university crowd at those prices.

@HawklordLI 2 года назад

Imagine if a Canadian franchise announced they were going to play in a rinky-dink arena for the next three years. Bettman would have the team moved to New Orleans, Little Rock or Louisville faster than you can blink your eyes.

@Lawomenshoops 2 года назад

The SD Chargers moved into a 25,000 seat soccer stadium and charged crazy prices, and for most games the other team's fans outdrew the Chargers fans! It's like dejavu all over again! They should have moved into the Suns old arena, before they moved into their current arena. At least they would have had about 16,000 seats. Where the Phoenix Roadrunners played in the IHL! If you're a sports fan in Phoenix, you can go to a Suns game, a Cardinals game, ASU football and basketball games for cheaper than a Coyotes hockey game.

@starkiller34 2 года назад

If its like MTL, keep in mind ticket prices are just a start: if you have to drive in, parking spots jump up to 25-35$ on hockey nights. Food/drinks are ridiculously priced but you can't bring anything in, so thats 7$ per person for just a water bottle.... yeah, hockey games are for the rich

@jeffthewhiff 2 года назад

Good video as always, Shannon! How on earth can the Coyotes expect people to pay for tickets to the games with inflation being what it is now and it is more important for people to be able to put food on the table and to pay their bills. I had heard a while back that the main reason why the commissioner is reluctant to move the Coyotes is because the owner has very deep pockets.

@LudwigBeefoven 2 года назад

The Vidéotron Centre in Québec City has 18,259 seats available for hockey games.

@northernsurferboy 2 года назад

The Calgary Flames first 3 years were played at the Stampede Corral which held about 6400 while the Saddledome was being built

@gretzkey66 2 года назад

@the hockey guy Can you please make a video on the costs of ice hockey and its impacts? The reason i ask is that I have played hockey for my entire life and am afraid that I will not be able to pay for my son or daughter to play this amazing sport. It is so expensive. Your work is phenomenal, and I appreciate all of your videos! I've watched so many over the past few years and look forward to watching more. Thanks!!

@daryljohnson6738 2 года назад

My dad had season tickets years ago and he'd always have 6 or 7 people that would split them. They'd get together, draw numbers, and have a draft where they went through the games and picked the games they wanted one by one. If anyone is fencing on whether to buy season tix because of the costs, this is a great solution.

@BoyNamedSue4 2 года назад

I admit I’ll make a joke at the yotes expense. But I really hope they can find some success for their fan base. Those fans have been through a lot.

@georock15 2 года назад

I am very excited to travel from SJ and see how everything looks there

@alexisisanarieka4311 2 года назад

I badly wish hockey would work in the desert (I mean it's working in Vegas), but this has to end. Imagine Arizona accelerates their playoff rebuild and you have a playoff game in THAT? Come on Gary

@Dratchev241 2 года назад

Part of me for lulz wants AZ to dominate next year and win the cup in a 5k arena.

@davezorn2350 2 года назад

Reading through the comments it's clear to me a lot of you have no idea what is going on in Arizona. Being a lifetime Arizona resident and long time hockey fan, let me try to clear things up a bit. 1. The future of the Coyotes in Arizona depends on the new arena proposal for Tempe. They won't discuss that in earnest until probably later this summer at the earliest. Yes the ticket prices are a steep rise, but that was expected with a move like this. Coyotes owners have to be calculated with a situation like this. I will guarantee the Coyotes will have sellouts when Chicago, St. Louis, Minnesota, Detroit, Boston, NY teams, Phily and maybe Washington come in. Possibly Colorado. The tough sells will be, and always have, Nashville, LA, Anaheim, San Jose and the southern US teams. Most Canadian games will sell out as well. There's just large fan bases for all of my noted sellouts in Phoenix not to sell out. To the people thinking the team will move, we've heard that every year for the last 20 years. The decision to move this team will be Meurello's, or if he sells it too obviously. No one else will force his hand. Also, the Coyotes paid ASU in advance for this move. That's been well documented. Auston Matthews is from Arizona and lives here in the offseason. He was a Coyotes fan growing up. If you think there's no chance he plays here, with a chance to be the face of his favorite team, you would be wrong. The good behavior clause is a staple for ASU and not some special Coyotes thing. Finally, Craig Morgan is the authority on anything Coyotes, follow him on the socials. The Athletic has already proven their worth with anything Coyotes and it's pretty worthless, including this latest "piece." Hope that helps.

@craigmorgan3584 2 года назад

Also, the Coyotes do not have a physical sportsbook and do not plan to have one until the new arena is built so that is also an inaccurate interpretation. Finally, the Coyotes WILL have their logo at center ice. This just feels like a summary of The Athletic article and lacks understanding of the actual situation.

@arkrazor354 2 года назад

I follow you on the Coyotes Fan page on FB. 100% agreed. Everybody else, Craig follows the Coyotes as his job, but is not employed by the Yotes.

@Buckybuttermaker 2 года назад

Having a college barn is so lit

@Swpht 2 года назад

Seeing those ticket prices is kinda staggering for me as a Canes fan. Day of for 45 you can get a lower bowl seat or 20 for upper. Presale/Regular tickets start at 40 upper and 100 lower. Just crazy how expensive they are charging in a tough market compared to the Canes, imo

@jackbreh2788 2 года назад

Bc the canes have just as much trouble selling tickets as the panthers and coyotes despite being good. Your statement is exclusive to your southern teams that dont sell out games. No other arena are you getting a 45 $ lower bowl seat EVER lmfao

@slauzon01 2 года назад

The Arizona Coyotes new arena deal will reportedly have both their logos at center ice as part of their deal.

@fraserbuchanan1083 2 года назад

This is an AMAZING deal for ASU.

@hughjass1044 2 года назад

It always makes me wonder just what it would take for them to give up and finally admit defeat. 26 years that team has been there and it's just been one crisis after another. Has the team even once turned a profit?

@benjaminlynch9958 2 года назад

I would wager (pun intended) that if you include the money from the gambling side of the business, Meruelo is making money on the Coyotes. Remember, only professional sports franchises are allowed gambling licenses in Arizona (outside of Indian reservations). There’s a reason Meruelo is insistent on keeping the team in Arizona, and it has nothing to do with civic pride or any such nonsense.

@sarahprince2412 2 года назад

That's why the team should come to Houston and rebrand themselves. We should have a 2nd NHL team here in our state. It's the largest landlocked state and we have multiple professional teams within their leagues so why can't we have another hockey team?? It makes a lot of sense too and many people are talking about how it makes sense logistically. There's a guy in Houston who was trying to convince the NHL to bring a team to Houston. Well, with all the problems the Coyotes are having bring them Texas with a new owner of course. Start fresh.

@brandonsmith5488 2 года назад

@@sarahprince2412 did you just insinuate that Texas is landlocked…..

@hughjass1044 2 года назад

@@sarahprince2412 How is Texas landlocked and why would that matter anyway?

@sarahprince2412 2 года назад

@@brandonsmith5488 Yes. People will say Texas is not the largest U.S state but for the landlocked continental states it is. That's why I said that because Alaska is the largest U.S state but it's not connected to us. It's connected to Canada. California is the largest state is population but Texas is the largest in land mass. Therefore Texas is the largest U.S landlocked state. So my verbiage is correct. I just don't want to confuse people.

@kevaninthe4135 2 года назад

The only case I could think of a team moving from a big arena to a small one is the New England Whalers in the WHA days. They were 4th class tenants of Boston Garden, and decided to move to Matthews Arena. Then when the Whale moved to Hartford the arena wasn't completed yet so they played the first part of the 1974-75 season at the Eastern States Coliseum in West Springfield, Massachusetts (My high school graduation was held at that Coliseum, the ice plant is long gone though). Boston Garden could hold about 15,000 people. Matthews Arena held about 4,666 people. Big E Coliseum held about 6,000 people. I'm willing to bet this wasn't the only time this happened in the WHA days.

@patch8376 2 года назад

The whole Arizona / ASU thing does feel WHA-ey or otherwise bush league ish. Matthews Arena was used by the Bruins back from their expansion season in 1924. Nice that it's kept going in some capacity all the way to this day.

@kevaninthe4135 2 года назад

@@patch8376 Matthews Arena is also the only arena for ice hockey left that was used by an Original Six franchise. It's also the oldest multi purpose athletic arena in the world.

@SmurfRockRune 2 года назад

I went to a couple of Blues games this season (Habs and Ducks back to back) in the 9th row for less than $40 each. Expecting people to pay way way more than that for Coyotes tickets is insane.

@aaroncluff5176 2 года назад

Live in west valley work in the east valley where Tempe is. There is a ton of money and actually excitement ab the team moving to Tempe. A lot of ppl r from hockey markets. It will work iut

@matthewfranke9988 2 года назад

Earlier this month, I took a friend to a Stars playoff game (game 3 vs Calgary and also his first playoff game) and we paid just under $50 (with tax and fees) to sit at the very top row. I still can’t believe how this team keeps being dragged through the mud like this but I also see why it hasn’t moved to Houston yet. I just don’t see the hunger in Houston to want to have a NHL team outside of the Rockets owner eager to purchase the Coyotes whenever the team is forced to sell, even though I would like to see the NHL in Houston.

@berra91 2 года назад

I dont live in the US, dont know what the ticket prices usually are. But that sound so expensive holy cow.. SHL (Sweden) season ticket is like $240-$750.

@dudbike 2 года назад

NHL: If Calgary doesn't get a new arena we might move the arena. Also NHL: Let's play in a Mickey Mouse arena in Arizona.

@richardferguson6893 2 года назад

Nailed it.

@ryans413 2 года назад

Lol right it’s Bettmens bias to the Coyotes

@benjaminlynch9958 2 года назад

Difference is that Calgary is attempting to blackmail the local government into giving them a brand new arena at taxpayer cost. Coyotes new arena in Tempe (after the temporary ASU deal) is already fully funded by the team owner.

@shawnschaitel838 2 года назад

It's the 7th or 10th largest market in the USA

@richardferguson6893 2 года назад

@@benjaminlynch9958 They had basically agreed a 50/50 arrangement between the city and CSE which was changed when the new mayor and council came in. Regardless of which side you come in on, it's been a bit of a gong show.

@ToastedTostito 2 года назад

I would love a season ticket price comparison for the league

@egandunne7892 2 года назад

Season tickets in Boston range from $4,840 to $17,600

@forgottenfamily 2 года назад

$14350 * 5450 seats = $78M + change. So even if they sold at the highest price for every seat, they wouldn't make the cap....

@hockeybolts7671 2 года назад

Tampa bay lightning have a deal called student rush where empty seats are sold at $20 to college students before game (they’ve been doing this for at least 10 years). I don’t think students would have been into the team over the last 10 years if the bolts had bad teams. Point is that the coyotes team sucks too much for anything to work.

@RemoteEars 2 года назад

This could have been an amazing thing. Build a core base of fans, students and locals. Create the best barn in the NHL in terms of atmosphere and team spirit. Student culture, local families going out for a unique experience. 3 years from now, upsize the arena, bring that same spirit in. Make a full section that's named after this rink. You'd have an incredible fanbase that would feed itself. Now, you're just stuck with the same hockey fans going again and again