The Curious Case of Adjusting the Piece | Ruslan vs Bharath | World Blitz 2023 

It’s a sign of good sport not compulsory though! He’s from Ukraine, no surprise he’s bitter due to India’s role in war. He’s behaving like a child. Ukraine is not the center of the world and no one gives a s*it for its problems. Likewise these states roll their eyes when India talks about terrorism from Pakistan.

who is Ruslan? overrated narrow minded guy is he magnus carlsen no right a failed gm who tries to show tantrums to kids so that he gets attention since no adult gives shit to Ruslaand so he is taking bitterness against kid

Say you are indian without saying. Anyway even the whole channel is for indians so make sense.

@@baddestass2332Ukraine is at war with Russia because Russia invaded in order to capture all of Ukrainian territory which makes Russia the fascist state. So if a country helps Ukraine then that is good moral thing to do. Just like US helped Russia in WW2 during German Nazi invasion. So normal civilized countries do give a sxxt. However, if India decides to remain neutral then that is sort of like being an Ostrich and sticking your head in the sand and not caring. However, regardless of all that, I think in chess match it is important to respect opponents by shaking their hand. I think Badrath should have protested to arbiter and get Ruslan to either shake hand or forfeit. This was clearly a sign of contempt/disrespect even looking at body language in the beginning.

@@CRITIC210 You handle name says it all 👀

But the handshake denial at the start, was also cheap.

Well right before his last move, he touched pawn to adjust its position. Touch to move is a rule and also, his handshake denial is cheap trick…

​@@ujibsrianNope since he didn't deny anything, he literally just gestured for Bharath to start the game

​@@PEACE_LUVRAnd adjusting a piece without needing to move it is also a rule lol

@@williamrobert9898…at 8:34, it would be touch to move applies and he touched the pawn first and then queen. The opponent is big heart guy who let go this.

Ruslan*

Sorry typo. Thanks

A) He is Ukrainian and B) they might have shook hands when they sat on the board, you are not obligated to shake hands again to start clock

@@yassineneffati9848 even if without obligation most players do shake hands maybe more than once , particularly if one player already extends their hands to shake forth. one shud keep their wars and little egos back home when participating in global tournaments.

@@yassineneffati9848 on 0:09 we can clearly see that Bharath extends his hand for a handshake and Ruslan points to the clock which is quite typical move when one player doesn't want handshake

If e5 instead of Kg2, he probably was afraid black playing Qc6

Aren't you supposed to adjust after you have made a move and not before?

no white was in the wrong, he had pushed the clock, hence blacks turn and game is back to touch move. Game is forfeit by white by not failing to move the pawn after touching it. Also, since the piece was not returned to the square in the middle, it was placed poorly on the edge and is also subject to disqualification.

fun facts even if White moves the d-Pawn he is still winning. Shame what Black tried to do here.

Yes, morally black was a poor sport and could have let that go, but perhaps he was insulted by the handshake refusal at the start.

@@theazrael4423 what Ruslan did is wrong. but I think he did it because of India's role in the Ukraine vs Russia War. but still, he should have shaken hands with the kids.

@@speedXchess who is Ruslan first of all first time seeing this guy and his attitude is like he is magnus carlsen first he should learn how to behave with kids 0 in behavioural ethics bs guy okay if he is doing with vidit or any adult indian player but against kid does kid even know anything related to politics to not shake hands shame on Ruslan the idiot

It’s true 😃

@chessterfish that is allowed according to FIDE rules

Maybe he shooks his hand before sitting down.

@@Nigkehr the second handshake is only to show you are ready to start the clock so there is no discrepancies.

@@Nigkehr There is no rule that players shake hands twice, and probably not very likely in this case as a handshake before starting the clock is almost engrained into chess culture and mandatory. It makes no sense to decline it even if they shook before.

it was clear that Ruslan adjusted the pawn

@@sauron4313 There is no rule that players shake hands even once my friend. lol The first handshake is to be cordial, the second handshake is to avoid discrepancies about starting the clock imo. And to agree with you again on your first point, its not a FIDE rule, and its actually more important in an amateur setting with no set start times. I think some people need to learn the difference between sporting and sportsmanship. The first handshake is sportsmanship, the second handshake is sporting, unless, a nod is given in its place. To violate the latter is more egregious.

you're right, but if he could have moved by the pawn I think the position is still lost so technicaly It wouldn't help but who knows..

LOL you are wrong, as the pawn was clearly not properly adjusted and no Ruslan doesn't need to take all day to make sure everything is adjusted, he did nothing wrong here

Indian detected

Its about intention as stated in the rules, otherwise it would be an abused rule by unsportlike players like Bharath. There is no question he was adjusting his piece after knocking it accidentally on his previous move, there is no such thing as a technicality violation here.

@@cooloutac ya this Ukrainian GM is the epitome of sporting attitude. That's why he refused to shake hands at the beginning.

8:29

Lol the irony in that dude calling them childish is 🔥 😂 1) Ponomariov most likely already shook his opponent's hand so he simply gestured for him to start the clocks at the beginning 2) Bharath was actually a good sport to not follow up on his complaints when the arbiter came Conclusion: the childish one here is the one calling a former world champion and a young promising prodigy childish

@@williamrobert9898 well said. SO why were you arguing with me if we agree on everything? Did I reply to the wrong guy and you were making fun of me for it? How dare you hahah.

Ruslan confirmed himself he shook hands when sitting down. I am unsubscribing from this channel because I think chessbase india omitted the handshake on purpose. Sagaar should publicly address this because it is making the Indian community look very racist.

😐 what did you have today? Jeez

The reason for the handshake is to show the player are ready to start the clock. SO there can be no discrepancy. Him nodding and pointing suffices. But we also don't know if he shook hands before sitting down. I find it very suspicious that in most of chessbase india's video it usually starts at the first handshake. This one did not which I wonder if was intentional. Regardless to me the poor sport was Bharath, and apparently he does this alot if you look at other games of his in the tournament.

Ruslan has confirmed himself he shook hands when sitting down. Chessbase India must of removed it to paint the Ukrainian in a bad light I believe after reading all the hate comments against him. Shameful and I'm unsubscribing.

talking about skills...tell me what skills you have gained in ur sixteens...and what impact did u made from ur skills

Such dumb comment..black just say the FIDE rule and accept the loss anyway, not trying to avoid it..and if black lack of skill he won't be there at the first time😂😂😂

@@alwaysop7731 dont really know how my skills in chess applies to the common sense of black trying to do a filthy move, but i did play in the higher leagues in my country when i was around 7-10 were the best kid in school.

@@KataHub u mentioned earlier about the skills...u think reminding the rule to opponent is filthy than what could be more filthier than not making handshakes in the beginning and doing unecessary drama to hide one's own wrong doing..

@@KataHub Apparently its common from bharath too if you watch some of the other games of his from this tournament.

Ruslan himself confirmed he shook hands when sitting down. Due to all the racist and hate comments against him I believe Chessbase india removed the handshake at the start to paint him in a badlight imo. I am now unsubscribing from this channel. Sagaar should publicly address this imo because its making the indian chess community look bad.

Ah no, Ruslan, understanding, that he was tricked with this false touch move claim, gave him the virus as a revange! Well, at least I like this my interpretation more, than what country they represent. I mean, they are chess players, they try to be nice. I mean, try to.

After all this is international game player should show due respect it's very clear there is ego issue of play vs younger player and other he just stumble the pieces and adjust without permission and continue the game clearly showing dominating opponent while playing you are just player as human being not Russian indian or any from any other places have to show minimum politely manners..

@@antomichael5489 Ruslan has confirmed himself that he shook hands before sitting down. Seeing all the racist comments against him on this video makes me think it was intentional and I am now unsubscribing from the channel. Saagar should address this. Its making the Indian chess community look really bad.

8:29 !!

Ruslan himself confirmed he shook hands when sitting down. And the arbiter would not have ruled in Bharaths favor, because the rule is based on intention not just touch alone, and even if the arbiter did rule in his favor, it only would of meant Ruslan would have to move the pawn and he still would of won regardless.

Ukrainian.

might of shook hands before sitting down and chessbase india omitted it.

Its been confirmed by Ruslan himself. Chessbase india removed the handshake at the start to paint him in a badlight imo due to all the racist and hate comments against him. I am now unsubscribing from this channel. Sagaar should publicly address this imo because its making the indian chess community look bad.

Ruslan said himself he shook hands when sitting down. Chessbase india removed the handshake at the start to paint him in a badlight imo due to all the racist and hate comments against him. I am now unsubscribing from this channel. Sagaar should publicly address this imo because its making the indian chess community look bad.

1-0 white

The 2 Kings are placed on White squares at the end of the game so white win. In case of draw each King is placed on its color.

looooooooooooooooooooooooosing or losing?

@@iceicebaby6980 haha.... It was supposed to be losing. U are right dude.

yes but the rule is based on perceived intention. The arbiter will never think Ruslan intended to move the piece, and noone believes Bharath thought he did either lol. An actual case of intention was HIkaru vs Levon in 2016 when Hikaru moved his queen to a square and then changed his mind and moved it back and picked up another piece. lol. But in this case. Ruslan adjusted his piece after accidentally knocking it.

Because he knows the arbiters after looking at the video, will clearly see there was no intended move. That is the rule, its about intention, there is no strict technicality of simpoly touching the piece, because that would be extremely unsporting. A clear case is Hikaru against Levon in 2016, moving his queen then putting it back and changing his mind and moving another piece.

He touched one piece and moved another. The rule is: game lost. I don't understand anything of what you wrote.

@@eugeniomoccia3917 So you would prefer to win dishonestly? interesting. There is no rule that you simply touch a piece and its a violation. It is based on perceived intention, according to FIDE laws, and Magnus Carlsen himself makes this point all the time. Also, its not an automatic loss. Time might be added to clock and he would be forced to move the pawn. ANd Bharath STILL would of lost. ANd btw, he shook hands with bharath before sitting down according to Ruslan himself. ALl the hate comments in this video have me thinking chessbase india did this on purpose and I am now unsubscribing from this racist channel.

He's right tbh, I applaud him for this, I've lost count of how many times I've seen top players adjust their pieces without saying anything and their opponent says nothing because it's obvious when a piece needs to be adjusted

​@@williamrobert9898 What's the downside of saying J'adoube? If you have a rule touch and move surely you have to compliment this rule with the j'adoube rule. I would never think of adjusting a piece without saying J'adoube. The Fide rules clearly states 4.2 Adjusting the pieces or other physical contact with a piece: 4.2.1 Only the player having the move may adjust one or more pieces on their squares, provided that he/she first expresses his/her intention (for example by saying “j’adoube” or “I adjust”). 4.2.2 Any other physical contact with a piece, except for clearly accidental contact, shall be considered to be intent. Quite how Carson gets away with it is beyond me. The last journalist who had the integrity to question Carlson about it got dismissed by Carlson with the pompous "not this again - do better"

@ig2d I would since all top players do lol And Carlsen was absolutely correct to put this drama queen of a journalist in place 😂 if you want to follow this rule, that's fine but don't try to enforce it on others, BTW even according to the rules you posted, Ponomariov did nothing wrong as he did accidentally move this pawn out of position

Yes he was clearly adjusting but still he had to say it…

good point.

nunca lo fue, ese torneo no era un campeonato del mundo

@@amilcarsv1008 it was a world championship. Every top player participated except for Kramnik and Kasparov. Vishy was there and everyone else, and the kid won it at 18 yrs old. Thats amazing.

touch move is based on intention. There is no unsporting technicality rule.

He said himself he did. Chessbase india removed the handshake at the start to paint him in a badlight. and due to all the racist comments against Ruslan I am now unsubscribing from this channel. Sagaar should publicly address this imo because its making the indian chess community look bad.

@@cooloutac wow(

in a comment on this video Ruslan himself said he shook hands before sitting down. Due to all the hate against Ruslan in this video, it feels like chessbase india omitted the handshake from the video to paint the Ukranian in a bad light and I am now unsubscribing from this channel.

@@cooloutac lol why are you announcing it everywhere tht u r Unsubscribing to this channel???? Does anyone even care what u subscribe or unsubscribe to?? Lol.

@@jaguarunleashed4935 because I find it absolutely disgusting and shameful now. Certainly sounds like you care. I use to tell people this channel is not biased and that the Indian chesscommunity is the most humble respectable and sporting. Boy was I wrong turns out this channel is extremely biased and this community is full of a bunch of f****** racist cheaters!

Bharat seemed to just raise the issue to his opponent, and resigned shortly after perhaps as a warning for future games, especially considering that Ruslan had enough time on the clock and could say "adjust" before making his actual move. On top of that Ruslan declined a handshake at the start of the game, which may have offended him. It seems Bharat is in the right here, and Ruslan should have shown more sportsmanship or understanding of the blitz rules.

@@sauron4313 Bharath seems to do this alot if you watch some of his other games in this tournament.

@@cooloutac I haven't seen many of his games but do you mean adjusting pieces on his opponent's turn, or appeals based on what the opponent did?

@@sauron4313 literally asking for drawes in losing positions. I think even chessbase India has one video wherw he's literally tried asking I think Alexa saranay for a draw in the middle of the game who just ignored him lol. Same tourney.

It was an OB ending. How is that losing ? I think quite common at the top level to agree for a draw in an OB endgame@@cooloutac

It was literally his turn when he adjusted it though

@@williamrobert9898 one should first make a move, then adjust a piece if needed, then press the clock. This is the right order i think.

@@erbalumkan369 But if it wasn't his turn, the automatically its an adjustment. He didn't actually "move" it lol. And clearly it was because he accidentally knocked it. No arbiter is going to rule otherwise.

@@cooloutac fair point, i agree.

First of all Ruslan did adjust the piece on his own time and second of all no he doesn't need to do these useless formalities, the pawn was clearly unadjusted and so he did it therfore he White did nothing wrong, you probably just say that because you don't like the fact that Ruslan won lol

Haha-no, I say this because I know the rules. Rules are not just a 'useless formalities', has nothing to do with me liking or disliking Ponomariov.

The rule is based on perceived intention. And even you nor Bharath think he intended to move the piece. Magnus brings this up all the time. To try to win on some technicality that doesn't even exist, shows a cheater mentality.

You're allowed to do that in blitz, there's an allowance of a few miliseconds where you begin moving the piece while the opponents clock is ticking, ruslan was definitely pushing it a bit far though

@@poppyharlow4448 I am pretty sure that is not a rule. You use the same hand to make a move and touch the clock so that way your hand is clear of the board as soon as your opponent's clock starts running. Usually in such cases if they do adjust a piece on their opponent's time it is a game between 2 grandmasters and they let it go because they generally have respect for each other at the top level of the game.

@@sauron4313 The rule is based on intention. And he clearly was not intending to the move piece after accidentally knocking it over, especially if he adjusted it when it wasn't his turn. Come on, There is no such thing as a technical touch move in chess because that would be extremely unsporting. An actual example of a broken touch move rule, is when Hikaru moved his queen to a square against Levon in 2016, and then changed his mind and moved it back, picking up and moving another piece. But the fact Ruslan accidentally knocked his piece, and adjusted it when it wasn't his turn, no way the arbiter will think he intended to move it.

He did not, because he just raised the issue and resigned shortly after. Even if Ruslan was forced to move that pawn and Bharat got an extra minute (which would be very unlikely) this would still be a totally lost position. In such cases grandmasters usually show sportsmanship to each other and not worry about adjusting pieces before moving, however it seems Ruslan lost all of that when he declined Bharat's handshake at the start of the game.

@@sauron4313 He might of shook his hand before sitting down and chessbase india omitted it from the video. If you look at Bharaths other games in this tournament, and I guess maybe its his m/o, he asks for draws in losing positions. He did it against Alexei Sarana too who just ignored him lol.

@@sauron4313 Ruslan just confirmed himself he shook hands before sitting down. And I don't know who edited Saggars video to paint the Ukranian in a bad light, But I am now unsubscribing from this channel. Sagaar should publicly address this. Its making the Indian Chess community look very racist due to all the hate comments against him.

@@cooloutac Where did he confirm this?

@sauron4313 in this video you can find his comment in one of the replies. It's one of the guys who posted calling him a racist I think named @bheegmani or something like that I think it has three replies. You can scroll for it. Seems to be from his official RU-vid account. The real racists imo are all those who think the first handshake wouldn't matter or who assumed he never made one because he is Ukrainian. Shameful.

Stop portraying it wrong just to support your countrymen , if really wanted to complain he would have fought for it and made an issue!

@@epictech9158 are you blind? Even if he complains Ruslan would have won still. He didn't make any wrong moves he just adjusted his pieces back and moved his queen what's wrong in that?

@@epictech9158 are you blind? Even if he complains Ruslan would have won still. He didn't make any wrong moves he just adjusted his pieces back and moved his queen what's wrong in that?

Moreover it happened in the heat of the moment and he is still in his teens... The comments section saying it is not good sportsmanship blah blah... How well behaved were u guys in ur teens??

You make a good point. I just have a hard time believing bharath actually thought he intended to move the pawn. He clearly knocked it accidentally and was adjusting it. But maybe I'm wrong. Doubt an aribiter would of ruled in his favor though.

probably shook hands before sitting down and chessbase india omitted that part.

Its been confirmed. Ruslan himself confirmed he shook hands when sitting down. Due to all the racist and hate comments against him I believe Chessbase india removed the handshake at the start to paint him in a badlight. I am now unsubscribing from this channel. Sagaar should publicly address this imo because its making the indian chess community look bad.

@@cooloutac You're making quite a few assumptions, thinking too many moves ahead maybe?

@@fransnagel My assumptions are only based on the comments on this video. Because of my "assumptions" I believe chessbase india needs to publicly address this. I have a hard time believing they did not know the impression a video of this game would leave without the handshake. Just look at your own comment my friend. SHame on them. Many are calling the guy racist, but in reality chessbase India has now portrayed the Indian chess community as the racists. iuts really in their best interest address it man. Whether it was intentional or not, it is their responsiblity.

@@fransnagel In fact if they don't address it that confirms me it was intentional. Just the title of this video too, "curious case" what? pretty cut and dry unintentional move to me, which wouldn't have mattered anyways.

He might of shook hands before sitting down.

I just wanted to clarify some things since I played this game and some comments here piss me off 😅. 1. It's not visible on the video, but we actually shook hands before the game and when there was command to start the round, I just wanted to start the game instead of shaking hands again and again. As far as I know the rules, since COVID-19 it's not obligatory to shake the hands before the game at all. 2. As you can see on the video in some moments pieces fell since we were in time trouble and I used my own time to adjust it. However to my own surprise, my opponent stopped the clock and it looks like he wanted to protest something... I didn't understand such an attitude because my position was absolutely winning at that moment. One day before we had a situation when someone protested and it took more than 1 hour for the appeal committee to make a decision. So you can imagine my thoughts at that moment 😂 Probably my opponent realized how stupid the situation was, because even if he forced me to play with a pawn d5 that I adjusted he still will be absolutely lost! 3. Anyway it's just a lesson for me to be careful because some players could try another time to win the game at any cost. Thank you for reading. You can watch this video slowly or ask my opponent about what he was thinking to make your own conclusions.

@@ruslanponomariov2284 Ty for your reply. Well done in the matchup, I look forward to seeing you play in the future.