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The Curious Case of Cargo Cults and the Truly Bizarre Rituals that Manifested 

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@doublearon9942
@doublearon9942 2 года назад
As an American with the last name Frum, I’m thinking of getting myself a crap load of cargo and go back to my people.
@TheNightWatcher1385
@TheNightWatcher1385 2 года назад
Do it
@SwagaliciousPimp
@SwagaliciousPimp Год назад
It is your destiny John ,
@attemptedunkindness3632
@attemptedunkindness3632 Год назад
You need to get your people up to speed first, start them out with tamagachis and cartons of marlboros, work your way up to fidget spinners and vape pens. Act totally surprised and oblivious to things like smart phones and the internet, it will keep you in power longer. God speed.
@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783
Livestream 🤣😂🙏💯💯💯
@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783
@@attemptedunkindness3632 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@aaronbasham6554
@aaronbasham6554 2 года назад
I like how Cargo Cults prove that the Mechanicus is actually somewhat realistic.
@echidnanatsuki882
@echidnanatsuki882 Год назад
Headcanon: these people are actually the descendants of the Mechanicus in the far future.
@razvan50087
@razvan50087 2 года назад
This man has more youtube channels than some youtube channels have viewers.
@RSpracticalshooting
@RSpracticalshooting 2 года назад
Seriously though Simon has 2 dozen damn channels he does videos for it feels like.
@gotalifeanditsmine
@gotalifeanditsmine 2 года назад
He is just an actor, he is only hired to read scripts written by others
@CJOwen
@CJOwen 2 года назад
@@gotalifeanditsmine er... you mean he's a narrator. Clearly a successful one and a hard working one. Not sure what the problem is.
@arx3516
@arx3516 2 года назад
Simon has several twin brothers, that's how they can mantain so many channels.
@waknbakn420
@waknbakn420 2 года назад
And he puts out videos on a few of em daily of not all of em
@captmulch1
@captmulch1 2 года назад
A funny one I heard from PNG was that in WW2 a local tribe cleared their own airfield, in the belief that if they created an airfield, aircraft would start arriving with cargo. A freight carrying aircraft was flying overhead and had engine trouble, saw the airfield, and landed. The locals couldn't believe their luck (see, it worked, it worked!!).
@zappyapp
@zappyapp 2 года назад
Link?
@stefanavic6630
@stefanavic6630 2 года назад
"If you build it, they will come."
@ismailbabatundebashiru6020
@ismailbabatundebashiru6020 2 года назад
Wild
@trafichat
@trafichat Год назад
That's freaking azycray
@davebrayfb
@davebrayfb Год назад
@@zappyapp A link will appear, only if you believe it will appear.
@DrFiero
@DrFiero 2 года назад
Cargo cult - clearly someone had been ignoring the Prime Directive.
@brianarbenz1329
@brianarbenz1329 2 года назад
As though the Enterprise crew ever followed the prime directive.
@icollectstories5702
@icollectstories5702 2 года назад
The Prime Directive doesn't seem to apply to accidents or crashes. On the flip side, "Mimsy Were the Borogroves" by "Lewis Padgett," a classic sci-fi short.
@Lawrence330
@Lawrence330 2 года назад
US GIs in particular were well-known for handing out candy bars and other treats from "back home" to locals, especially kids. It came pretty problematic in Viet Nam if I recall correctly, because the VC would give kids grenades or whatever to drop after interacting with solders. You could probably trace the more atrocious actions against "civilians" during the conflict to this weaponization of children.
@MrFreddyFartface
@MrFreddyFartface 2 года назад
Thank you! Cargo Cult Programming is exactly the term I've been looking for to describe the maddening practices of most of my colleagues all these years
@robertwalker-smith2739
@robertwalker-smith2739 2 года назад
My father was in Micronesia during WWII. He told me about how amazed his fellow soldiers were at the ability of the islanders to climb coconut palms. They would offer a local a comb or Zippo for a coconut, then watch the spectacle. After the trade, the soldier would throw the coconut away. My father noticed how utterly mystified the Micronesians were by this.
@jliller
@jliller 2 года назад
What a waste of tasty coconuts.
@JessieHTX
@JessieHTX 2 года назад
The soldiers didn’t like coconuts?
@robertwalker-smith2739
@robertwalker-smith2739 2 года назад
@@JessieHTX , it was about seeing the islanders climb the trees.
@Gigawolf1
@Gigawolf1 2 года назад
@@robertwalker-smith2739 Yikes. That's kind of like asking someone to grab some food from a store to watch them drive there/buy it and then tossing it out; I'd be pissed if someone pulled that
@robertwalker-smith2739
@robertwalker-smith2739 2 года назад
@@Gigawolf1 , what if they paid you for the food, then tossed it out?
@nochan99
@nochan99 2 года назад
Fun fact: Cargo Cult programming is a style of computer programming where you include allt the stuff you don't fully understand for good measure. It is very common in large complex and old software projects maintained by new developers because it can take a very long time for a single person to fully grasp how the system works. Over time the inclusion of unimportant stuff in the program compounds making it even more difficult to understand. EDIT: Lol just realized he mentions it at the end of the video!
@4Leka
@4Leka 2 года назад
I think cargo cult programming sums up the entirety of Microsoft Office perfectly. I guess its remnant code from the 90s is already older than most of its current devs.
@icemancometh1621
@icemancometh1621 2 года назад
I'm eternally grateful to this video. It inspired me to start my own cargo cult, and I have already begun to reap the rewards for my efforts!
@blue-nosedherringchoker4875
@blue-nosedherringchoker4875 2 года назад
I have to note that "Frumm" is an actual family name, so a "John Frum" could have existed.
@brianarbenz1329
@brianarbenz1329 2 года назад
Maybe we could make a movie, "Saving Private Frum."
@ethancntower8850
@ethancntower8850 2 года назад
Or he said I'm John From.. America
@vulpes7079
@vulpes7079 2 года назад
If someone checked American military records in the Pacific for a John Frumm in the New Hebrides, then traced their lineage, maybe these people would have their next Messiah
@joe18750
@joe18750 Год назад
thank you Captain Obvious.
@fullmetaltheorist
@fullmetaltheorist 8 месяцев назад
A guy with the last name Frumm commented that he wants to go there.
@bradysmeyers5950
@bradysmeyers5950 2 года назад
Thanks to the versatility of Simon, I can consume biographies, true crime, and all sorts of other great things, all in the audible chocolate that is his spiffing British voice.
@SeraphRyan
@SeraphRyan 2 года назад
You might like "The Spiffing Brit" then lol. He mostly does video game exploits though.
@brianarbenz1329
@brianarbenz1329 2 года назад
Like John “Froome.”
@loritracy1385
@loritracy1385 2 года назад
Brady- 😂 "audible chocolate"- yes! I shall be stealing that.
@bradysmeyers5950
@bradysmeyers5950 2 года назад
@@SeraphRyan I love the spiffing brit! He's the one who taught me how well skyrim works, and the legend of Reanu Keeves.
@DixonLu
@DixonLu 2 года назад
Simon's videos from all channels make home schooling almost feasible, at least way more palatable/effective than Zoom classes.
@troyevitt2437
@troyevitt2437 2 года назад
Dude, our neighborhood's first porch pirate arrested for Christmas, '21 is claiming Religious Liberty as he was raised in a Tobago cargo-cult.His mother claims the only English he spoke when they arrived was "Danke Schoen, Baby, Danke Schoen", because of a CD by Wayne Newton that washed ashore.
@jaymzx0
@jaymzx0 2 года назад
How's that working out for him?
@michaelhellwinkle9999
@michaelhellwinkle9999 2 года назад
When the only " English" you know is actually German...
@grantandrews4826
@grantandrews4826 2 года назад
Lol what the fuck.
@deaconsmom2000
@deaconsmom2000 2 года назад
There's only one English word in that phrase and it's not part of the lyrics. Danke schoen, darlin', danke schoen. I can tell where in the US you don't live since you don't seem to even speak the tiniest bit of German. What are we teaching in schools these days?
@fullmetaltheorist
@fullmetaltheorist 8 месяцев назад
He said "Thank you a lot." In German 😂
@CartoonHero1986
@CartoonHero1986 2 года назад
There is a section of Warner Herzog's Into the Inferno that covered the John Frum cult since their cult has tied it into the mythos around the volcano on their island... apparently they think John Frum lives inside the volcano, but there are also a couple of "sects" of the cult now on the island.
@rodanzig
@rodanzig 2 года назад
Actually we have a thriving Cargo Cult here in the USA .
@brianarbenz1329
@brianarbenz1329 2 года назад
About 70 percent of American Christianity functions like a cargo cult. Particularly the “prosperity gospel.”
@TJDious
@TJDious 2 года назад
@@brianarbenz1329 Citation needed.
@paulthegeek
@paulthegeek 2 года назад
Qanon?
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 2 года назад
BEZOS! BEZOS! BEZOS! =)
@alexbold4611
@alexbold4611 2 года назад
RTX 30xx cult
@danielbaulig
@danielbaulig 2 года назад
I love the color heading on your headshots. Props to the editor or whoever else did the color grading.
@timewave02012
@timewave02012 2 года назад
I'm a fan of the strange, dark, and mysterious, delivered in story form.
@tefkas1357
@tefkas1357 2 года назад
That last quote is such a burn. You think waiting a generation is too long? No, but if we are still here 2 millennia later then we can talk...
@QBCPerdition
@QBCPerdition 2 года назад
Applying the same logic to the Cargo Cults as to other more established religions, like Christianity, doesn't have to end up with people saying Cargo Cults should be given the same reverence, it could just as easily go the other way, that Christianity should be just as dismissed as the Cargo Cults are.
@tefkas1357
@tefkas1357 2 года назад
@@QBCPerdition Agreed
@AngryReptileKeeper
@AngryReptileKeeper 2 года назад
Still waiting for dad to come back from getting that pack of smokes.
@trackee2024
@trackee2024 2 года назад
It really makes you curious about who or what earlier cultures encountered when they created giant relics to summon the gods.
@danielgengler4342
@danielgengler4342 2 года назад
My grandfather met some of these groups during WW2. Probably could have written a book, wish he had. Always spoke highly of the island natives.
@alexbarnett8541
@alexbarnett8541 2 года назад
I'm sure they must have treated him very well. They believed he was a God descended from heaven after all.
@ImCarolB
@ImCarolB 2 года назад
These people must have had such fun appropriating everything material and cultural to enrich their tribal life. Back in the 70s, I was telling a man that my parents were working in Papua New Guinea. He told me the tale of being there during WWII. A tribesman invited him to his village and when he got there, it was extremely primitive, but oddly had a Masonic Lodge.
@lynn109
@lynn109 2 года назад
You should do a video about an engineer named Vic Tandy who established a connection between supposed paranormal activity and infrasound frequency (~19Hz), which is below the range of human hearing and also roughly the resonant frequency of our eyeballs, causing some people to 'see' things that aren't there.
@stackflow343
@stackflow343 2 года назад
I see a lot of cargo cult mentality in entrepreneur scams
@thespanishinquisition4078
@thespanishinquisition4078 Год назад
The term "Cargo Cult Science" has indeed been used to define these kinds of pseudoscience for quite a while now.
@drewpool4537
@drewpool4537 2 года назад
Simon, you have so many channels, that I'm not sure how you actually have enough time to make all the videos you produce. Good on ya mate.
@walterscogginsakathesilver6246
@walterscogginsakathesilver6246 2 года назад
Now that cargo Cult t-shirt... that's the one you need in your tea spring collection
@WaddedBliss
@WaddedBliss 2 года назад
I looked online to see if one existed. Sadly not.
@angrynoodletwentyfive6463
@angrynoodletwentyfive6463 2 года назад
It's actually kinda sad if you think about it. for us It would be like if all the shopping centers just disappeared one day and nobody knew why and you just straight up couldn't get any of that stuff anymore.
@CaptainDangeax
@CaptainDangeax 2 года назад
I work in IT and although cargo cult is common, it's also a good way of learning new things if and only if the step is not too high. After all babies learn to speak by imitating sounds they don't understand... Learning to program by first copying and then understanding is not bad either. Unfortunately, no bamboo radio will ever summon a cargo full of goods, the step is too high but add some copper zinc and lead sulfur and you'll eventually get a working radio
@sageinit
@sageinit 2 года назад
Lemme guess you haven't had to cooperate with a lot of off-shore outsourcing providers so far
@CaptainDangeax
@CaptainDangeax 2 года назад
@@sageinit If I exclude my level2 teams in Morroco, Egypt, Maurice island and France, I see you've guessed right. Oh, wait...
@MetalheadAndNerd
@MetalheadAndNerd 2 года назад
Cargo cult programming is what management people without ethics prefer because it produces quick solutions that somehow work. It allows for hiring cheaper, less experienced developers which makes management even more happy.
@CaptainDangeax
@CaptainDangeax 2 года назад
@@MetalheadAndNerd Sometimes the difference between examples from the documentation and example from stackoverflow is so tiny one cannot make the difference between copying the doc or cargo cult. Anyway, the purpose of an enterprise is to survive by earning money. At the end, the result is more important than anything else
@MetalheadAndNerd
@MetalheadAndNerd 2 года назад
@@CaptainDangeax Of course you only mean the monetary result. That your application has 3 different implementations of the same function, pasted together from 3 different forum posts, making the app behave differently depending on where the user triggers the function, you can easily explain with "Well, a computer can make a million mistakes per second."
@billrichards2177
@billrichards2177 2 года назад
crazy nice vid. jumping over to IntotheShadows as soon as this is over
@deusexvesania1702
@deusexvesania1702 2 года назад
Weird as hell but interesting. Gotta love this channel.
@sageinit
@sageinit 2 года назад
Someone should tell these natives about the Church of Bob
@shawnawesome7770
@shawnawesome7770 2 года назад
Bob Dobbs
@pafo5950
@pafo5950 Год назад
This is incredibly humbling. Thank you for sharing this. Learning is so important. Can never learn enough objective facts.
@1TrueGem
@1TrueGem 2 года назад
These are always so fascinating to me. Thanks for yet another great topic Whistler gang.
@frankharr9466
@frankharr9466 2 года назад
When put in the context of physics, programming and organization, this makes sense. The seeming bizaareness comes more from lack of familiarity with the context than it does with actual deviation with familiar human behavior.
@TheEvilCommenter
@TheEvilCommenter 2 года назад
Good video 👍
@Melissa0774
@Melissa0774 2 года назад
I wonder if something kind of similar is at play on North Sentinel Island, but the opposite. Like maybe they also think that outsiders are supernatural figures too, but instead of venerating them, they think they're like the devil and think they're evil because of that guy, (I forget his name) who kidnapped and I think raped some of them in the 17 or 1800's.
@Kageoni187
@Kageoni187 2 года назад
Good lord, you are a beast. You cover all the good shit. You snd your team are killing it.
@plinkitee
@plinkitee 2 года назад
That radar dish was pretty impressive.
@CoverCode
@CoverCode 2 года назад
What you a new channel? I would never have guessed, you always seemed like the person who would only have 1 single YT channel 🤯
@brianthomas2434
@brianthomas2434 2 года назад
First heard of the cults in the final segment of the 1962 "shockumentary" Mondo Cane. Recently there are allegations that the spacecraft that was supposed to have been recovered by the US military at Roswell in 1947 was reverse engineered to provide such wonders as solid state electronics and microchips. I think that's just a jumping off point for fiction. If anyone did believe it, I would point out that 1947 scientists would understand microchips like Pacific Islanders understood aeronautics (the final shot of Mondo Cane is a mock, full size plane constructed of native wood by Islanders. I'm confident it never flew. )
@bobbun9630
@bobbun9630 2 года назад
I think you're underestimating the technical knowledge that existed in the US at that time. The transistor itself was invented in 1947, but semiconducting materials and quite a few of their properties were known in the 19th century. The first IC's ("chips") weren't invented until the late 1950's (commercially produced in the 1960's), but the basis for the photolithographic techniques used to produce them was developed well before, and those techniques are not at all dissimilar to early photographic techniques known for over a hundred years. There were no doubt a few technical hurdles to overcome and some missing pieces, but the most important missing piece was just putting all the ideas together--something a working example would have provided. That is in no way comparable to the difficulty of developing aviation with no understanding of physics, chemistry, or metallurgy and no industrial infrastructure or means of obtaining the required resources. A working example would be useless magic in that case. I do agree that any claim starting with an allegation that something came from an alien spaceship can be dismissed out of hand, though.
@russell28533
@russell28533 2 года назад
If I had Elon Musk-level money, I'd buy out the contents of my local Big Lots, hire a bunch of Boy Scouts to box everything up, rent a Carnival Cruise ship and make this island's day.
@SpencerGD
@SpencerGD 2 года назад
Psht. You just need a few pallets of govt surplus auctioned goods & a Cessna. Like $500 for the pallets & maybe $50k for the plane & pilot training. Less if you can find someone who already has a plane and wants to be a tribal god.
@ismailbabatundebashiru6020
@ismailbabatundebashiru6020 2 года назад
@@SpencerGD 😂😂😂😂😂
@TheDunestrider
@TheDunestrider 2 года назад
I remember running into a cargo cult in Australia that got started after the pocky-eclipse. They thought "Captain Walker" was going to fly them to "Never-never Land", their idea of utopia. They thought I was Captain Walker! They didn't believe me that I wasn't Captain Walker, that there was no Never-never Land. Many of them left, and I had to rescue them and... wait a minute, I'm thinking of a movie I watched. Never mind.
@MCVessels
@MCVessels 2 года назад
That Captain Walker, his name wasn't Riddley was it? He's probably off being chased by his auntie if so.
@mememachine5501
@mememachine5501 Год назад
Were off to never never land
@Metadasius
@Metadasius 2 года назад
When is whistle tube lauching?
@abiolalafoucade9317
@abiolalafoucade9317 2 года назад
Finally he is doing a video about black people Finally 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@sam1812seal
@sam1812seal 2 года назад
Interesting to make a video exploring cultural practices that many in the west find rather obtuse and superstitious; only to use a western religious/cultural practice (fear of exposed women’s breasts) that many in the pacific islands might think exactly the same about.
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 года назад
It sounds like a premise for anti-western, ideological drivel. And there's already enough of that.
@sam1812seal
@sam1812seal 2 года назад
@@eadweard. I’m firmly against all ideological drivel. Its origin or target really don’t matter to me at all.
@ClockworkEngineer
@ClockworkEngineer 2 года назад
Dang, how'd you miss out on "Christians are waiting for their non-existant savior too" as a the comparable western practice.
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 года назад
@@ClockworkEngineer It was in the video.
@sam1812seal
@sam1812seal 2 года назад
@@ClockworkEngineer sorry, I had that in response to a different comment. “Doesn’t sound much more superstitious than praying to a representation of a tortured and murdered man and expecting him to pop down for round 2 at some point.” I considered adding a reference to Bill Hicks’ JFK memorial rifle pin badge joke, but thought that might be going a bit far.
@farn451
@farn451 2 года назад
They serve as a very good example of what may have happened in the ancient past too when more advanced ancient people met more "primitive peoples".
@koki84ji7
@koki84ji7 6 месяцев назад
And how religions are formed😂
@charlesachurch7265
@charlesachurch7265 2 года назад
Sci-fi stories like "A Canticle for Liebovitz" or "Riddley Walker" come to mind.
@MCVessels
@MCVessels 2 года назад
The illuminated circuit diagram was pretty adorable, I've got to admit.
@stephmaccormick3195
@stephmaccormick3195 2 года назад
WOW! A true TIFO!! Kudos, Simon!
@scottpedersen2905
@scottpedersen2905 2 года назад
Compare and contrast with Americans gathering in Dealey Plaza to await the return of JFK Jr.
@benracer
@benracer 2 года назад
Oh my god. We just talked about this on monday in my anthropology class
@dylanporras2655
@dylanporras2655 2 года назад
I was stationed in Hawaii and we were getting some missions to Vanuatu and PNG. After an Intel brief about the cargo cults, they would not let anyone with blue eyes fly the missions. It was hilarious.
@Lazy_.Lavender
@Lazy_.Lavender Год назад
Why?
@Abstormal
@Abstormal 2 года назад
Darker?! SOLD! Subscribed!
@matthewdopler8997
@matthewdopler8997 2 года назад
Cargo cult in business sounds like one of the problems at Theranos.
@RandomGuy-jo8ky
@RandomGuy-jo8ky 2 года назад
Star Trek spoke the truth. "The duck blind failed again"
@Morbos1000
@Morbos1000 2 года назад
I'm glad you showed modern examples from science and tech. It is very easy to slip into the fallacy that the people on Vanuatu are primitive when the truth is people are all the same at heart and all of us are prone to believing nonsense if the circumstances are right.
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 года назад
Tbf they are primitive.
@tignight3645
@tignight3645 2 года назад
@@eadweard. no the are not
@JSJSpeaks
@JSJSpeaks 2 года назад
I passed the subscription review! Now I can find anything by Mister Whistler any time!! That’s a happy holiday huzzah from me!!!
@tobiaswilhelmi4819
@tobiaswilhelmi4819 Год назад
Also an interesting topic is the "Reverse Cargo Cults", I think introduced by political researcher Ekaterina Schulman. It describes the tendency of post-soviet states, especially Russia, to create imitations of democratic institutions just to prove that they are dysfunctional, therefor the democratic institutions in the western hemisphere must also be dysfunctional.
@Corsuwey
@Corsuwey 2 года назад
Reminds me of the movie, "The Gods Must Be Crazy!"
@jamesleatherwood5125
@jamesleatherwood5125 2 года назад
10:26 "as a term for venerating an object or practice without fully understanding its function" Oh.... you mean like 80 to 90 percent of people who call themselves christian? lol. and im a christian by my own belief so i can say that lol. you have no idea how many people believe they are christian but half the things they think the bible says it doesnt, or something it does say has been taken out of context and ran across the field of secular thought like a p[uppy with a steak running from its owners. Id say your statement just about applies to most major and large moral or spiritual institutions. A large majority following any devised system will not have put forth the efforet to truly understand the system, instead, relying on the information passed onto them by others in authority positions and trusting as fact something they have not verified. The source of a whole huge lot of proble s in the world, that, the belief that you are following your own chosen moral and spiritual code when in fact you are following a broken fragmented and twisted form of the practice that got to you the same way that message did during elementary school when you would play the telephone game (the one where you would whisper down the line what the phrase was), after its been passed unverified through several hundred people across multiple generations. lol
@Liquessen
@Liquessen 2 года назад
Eyy, I listen so much to the criminal podcast that I have missed seeing his pretty face (and the lovely editing).
@theCidisIn
@theCidisIn 2 года назад
Another new channel! Who would've guessed!? Another new sub? Who would've guessed?
@bpwn3r
@bpwn3r 2 года назад
This channel has been around for years. I actually didn't notice how many channels Simon was on until I read all these comments.
@johntakolander8613
@johntakolander8613 2 года назад
The last sentence was the best!
@eventerminator1382
@eventerminator1382 Год назад
Those structures they made are pretty impressive
@MajinSayon
@MajinSayon 2 года назад
Always be wary of magical thinking.
@JARJCC97
@JARJCC97 2 года назад
The case of cargo cults is hilarious but its sad because these tribes are trying to rationalize what they seen but they are most likely never going to get an awnswer. I heard of these before this video.
@Auriorium
@Auriorium Год назад
I can say that Cargo Cult mentality can also be present in corporations and other work environment.
@eaglesfootballcards6984
@eaglesfootballcards6984 2 года назад
Damn this gave me PTSD from an MCAT passage years ago lol. Very interesting phenomenon though
@mirthenary
@mirthenary 2 года назад
Reminds me of the scene in Men in black, where the aliens in the locker say "ALL HAIL J"
@virpiovanmeteran1599
@virpiovanmeteran1599 2 года назад
ok i just got done watching every episode on the second channel. Love your content here, and no surprise i like it there! enjoy your new sub... it is much better than a swearing tannage reaction gamer! >,
@riffdagg6701
@riffdagg6701 2 года назад
Cargo Cults can explain a lot about our ancient history
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 года назад
How so?
@andiward7068
@andiward7068 2 года назад
Given they are a 20th Century construct, I'm interested in your take.
@bigsprucerabbitry6238
@bigsprucerabbitry6238 2 года назад
@@eadweard. When the aliens visited of course ;-P
@joeb8935
@joeb8935 2 года назад
Are you trying to imply this is how mythologies and such got started? Because these cargo cults only happened because these people all ready had such beliefs
@TK2692
@TK2692 2 года назад
A cargo cult approach to history certainly does explain how people can look at aspects of the ancient world and conclude it must have been the work/influence of aliens.
@gordonfiala2336
@gordonfiala2336 2 года назад
3:20. It is magic. They exercise influence over the material, to manipulate it. Which through physics, fundamentally is an enigma, regardless of how systemic the process is. Ceremony and culture are applicated to rouse the intellectual process of immolating the initiating affect of the discovery.
@chrissugg968
@chrissugg968 2 года назад
Note that the hay and wire sculpture pictured at 6:37 has nothing to do with Cargo Cults. It's model of Jodrell Bank radio telescope constructed at Park Farm in Cheshire, UK around 2007.
@2Pi100
@2Pi100 Год назад
those are very common in American military bases. It absolutely has everything to do with cargo cults.
@chrissugg968
@chrissugg968 Год назад
@@2Pi100 Radio Telescopes are a common feature of American military bases?
@2Pi100
@2Pi100 Год назад
@@chrissugg968 have you ever seen an airfield?
@chrissugg968
@chrissugg968 Год назад
@@2Pi100 haha they don't have radio telescopes on them. Those are for looking at space.
@2Pi100
@2Pi100 Год назад
@@chrissugg968 not every radar dish is a radio telescope lmao
@michall6376
@michall6376 2 года назад
How many channels do you have exactly?
@shaliekk
@shaliekk 2 года назад
This man has 10 channels This man must be an investor
@SpeedOfTheEarth
@SpeedOfTheEarth 2 года назад
A cargo cult is what large parts of humanity would become(/already are) when we discover(/erroneusly believe to have discovered) aliens...
@GrievousReborn
@GrievousReborn 2 года назад
Simon has done 2 videos on this topic one on xplored and now one here
@phillbosque2183
@phillbosque2183 2 года назад
It be wild if some rich person delivered on their expectations. Show up with a cargo ship loaded with goodies, calling himself John, then promise to come back later with more cargo.
@lazycoffeedrinker
@lazycoffeedrinker 2 года назад
Blindboy boatclub has a fascinating podcast on cargo cults!
@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718
@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 2 года назад
Apparently the USA doesn't care much about the Prime Directive.
@catharinepizzarello4784
@catharinepizzarello4784 2 года назад
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
@picolete
@picolete 2 года назад
Another channel for the Simon multiverse
@Mii.2.0
@Mii.2.0 2 года назад
_"If you say to the Tannese, 'You've been waiting all this time and neither Jon Frum nor Philip has turned up.' [I would] point out that Christians have been waiting for the return of Jesus for 2,000 years."_ That says a lot about about our modern, American society. 🤔
@killerjoke2945
@killerjoke2945 2 года назад
Somehow reminds me of an old flick named "The gods must be Crazy"...
@KlaasDeforche
@KlaasDeforche 2 года назад
Your beard is looking good 👍
@briansullivan5908
@briansullivan5908 2 года назад
As long as they’re happy and no one gets hurt, who cares what their beliefs are?
@rigdzindrolma7148
@rigdzindrolma7148 2 года назад
What about waiting and preparing to distract and starvation. I would not say ignorance is bliss.
@TK2692
@TK2692 2 года назад
"But they're different from mine, so they're wrong."
@tremorsfan
@tremorsfan 2 года назад
I'm sure there's an episode of Ancient Aliens that tries to tie cargo cults to AAs.
@asajjy
@asajjy 2 года назад
There Should Be A Cargo Cult Tycoon Kinda Game Would Be Interesting
@angrynoodletwentyfive6463
@angrynoodletwentyfive6463 2 года назад
That's like saying there should be a Ugandan Shaman Simulator game...
@Bacopa68
@Bacopa68 2 года назад
South Pacific Big Man would be a good economics game. Traditional Big Man economics, not cult economics. Native Americans in the Northwest and he Greeks of the Iliad had a similar system.
@dixgun
@dixgun 2 года назад
Great documentary. I'd heard of the Prince Philip movement but not the John Frum cult. It's interesting that they're both from Tanna, Vanuatu. My question now is where does Rastafarianism fit in?
@amandajones661
@amandajones661 2 года назад
Randomly, there was an incredible Orville episode about how quickly religions are started.
@milandjuric8043
@milandjuric8043 2 года назад
Saying that cargo cults are not a misunderstanding of reality bcs they mirror traditional religions is kinda mising the point, isnt it
@spamletspamley672
@spamletspamley672 2 года назад
Interesting: but confusing not to say that the 'pigin' derivation is just describing a secondary use that Wiki only provides examples of from around 1880. If that was the real origin we would have no cars, carriages, carpenters etc. "From Spanish cargo (“load, burden”), from cargar (“to load”), from Late Latin carricō. Doublet of charge."
@danielrose2399
@danielrose2399 2 года назад
Back in the later 1980's NMCB 3 sent a detachment to "the Typhoon Stricken islands", gave the local sects a kick start.
@BiblicallyAccurateToaster
@BiblicallyAccurateToaster 2 года назад
The hardest working man on YT.
@Omidion
@Omidion Год назад
Sounds like Adeptus Mechanicus from WarHammer 40k
@cozy_2X
@cozy_2X Год назад
HOW MANY CHANNELS DO YOU HAVE? lol I follow like 4/5 of your channels I swear ahaha
@SpencerGD
@SpencerGD 2 года назад
So, with a Cessna and a box of denim jeans, I could become a god?
@kingjames4886
@kingjames4886 2 года назад
how would they even know what a radio tower looked like? they weren't dropping radio towers on them >.>
@MCVessels
@MCVessels 2 года назад
No, but if the military built an airstrip then they'd probably build a radio tower too, to help the planes land.
@benthomason3307
@benthomason3307 2 года назад
Video idea: does the idea that the captain has to go down with a sinking ship have any basis in reality?
@LuluTheCorgi
@LuluTheCorgi 2 года назад
He doesn't have to go down with the ship but the captain is supposed to be the last one to leave/abandon the ship after everyone else is either rescued or dead
@RandomBogey
@RandomBogey 2 года назад
I would so badly want to just show up with a cargo plane full of stuff and introduce myself as “John Frum” and blow their minds
@TheBiohazard3179
@TheBiohazard3179 Год назад
lol imagine if you had people airdrop stuff from aircraft in different intervals, could be a very interesting study.
@watupfo
@watupfo 2 года назад
I used to love this channel but now on about every other video I can't help but think "man this would have been so much better if it was blazed."
@lynkrig5635
@lynkrig5635 2 года назад
Like they said people may laugh at it but for christians some carpenter just showed up said he was the son of god and everyone just went “alight that’s chill”
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