The Current State of TMNT Shredder's Revenge - (December Update Review) 

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Now they need to remake Golden Axe for their next game.

For me it wasnt about using throws to avoid damage. It was the fact that i was positioned and forced into a throw, then i would take damage.

I'm really happy to see them listening to the minority and improving the game. With the sheer number of people who told me there's nothing wrong with it and to shut up, I'd written off any hope of change. It's been selling well and isn't by any measure awful, so it's heartwarming to see the effort put into a product that could've easily rode into the sunset on a wave of pure hype.

I would love to see your take on what makes a good boss design for a beat 'em up.

From a game that was too easy because you run away and taunt all day then super to a more complex game where you need to save your supers doing combo's and throw mechanics help alot with the juggle. Iframes some said makes it cheap and easy, but taunts that gain super bar then spamming supers? Heck invincibility on throws helps deepen the mechanic as explained in the video.

They actually fixed the problem i had with taunts and the fact that it incentivized to spam taunts in between fights until the gauge was full every time, lets goooo didnt think that was actually gonna happen

I only ever played thru the whole game once because I didn't like the combat that much. I felt like I was limited to only a few moves to avoid damage. Plus, I didn't like that you couldn't change the turtles skin tone. Everyone was bright green. Glad to see that things have improved. Maybe now I'll actually go back.

Mayo when he has to talk about a Sifu update: angery TMNT update: happy times

I never had an issue with the gameplay in Shredder's Revenge at launch except for the taunt being broken. Regardless this is a huge improvement from what I still consider a fun beatemup.

No way this man spent over 5 min just rephrasing different words about throws alone..could of just been a 4 min video Jesus, wasted my time hoping there was gonna be more info like a horde mode or something not throws..

Love the little tweaks and improvements, and I know scanlines etc are common features but the VHS filter is fantastic on this game.

the update is nice but I don't think it changes it all that much. If you're weren't big on the game before you aren't going to suddenly love Shredder's Revenge. Now, if we can finally get the SOR4 patch.

Glad for the update and thank you Tribute games! The only things that i would like to see updated now are 1.) Add Casey Jones to all cutscene pics and title screen! 2.) make the game 7 players so every character is playable at once. 3.) Survival mode like in Streets of Rage 4, but make it different and more suspenseful. 5.) Arcade random mode- Where you play the whole game till the end, but play every level randomly. A battle royal mode would be cool and a boss rush mode but the others would be more appreciated 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

My new favorite side scrolling Beat em up is the first Cobra Kai Game. No joke, eight playable Characters, air juggling, good combat system, skill tree for each one, and yes a style meter.

This is a awesome update, made this good game even better. I'd love if they add a survival or infinite mode.

The palette swap mod to make their skin different greens needs to be an official thing

Actually, am 99.9% certain charged attacks also had s, I used them on Bebop and Rocksteady's bull charge attacks, and other attacks went right through me doing the animations.

The fact that they added the ability to disable revives alone makes it a great update for me. Multiplayer was always fun but there was never a fear of losing due to the revive mechanic and it was rare to see anyone drop lower than 2 lives. Now people will have to play a lot more carefully.

The only things I really wish they'd do now is be able to earn new moves, like in streets of rage, and change the dodge animation, it has a delay after use that counteracts the fact that you just dodged, so now your stuck for a split second after you dodge open to any free hit until the animation recovers. Dodge should be a quick move not a whole animation

The biggest gripe I’ve with this update is that they confirm the gams’s biggest weakness. Bosses also receive the health bonus from the modifiers in Custom Arcade. While I agree that bosses are worth learning so a player can avoid or prevent specific setups, the health pool becomes so huge that bosses turn into a chore. The rest is generally fine, but the change to throws is great! In the context of Custom Arcade, throws are a life-saving option. Custom Arcade is a nice incentive to explore characters’ specific knockback effects since they all have some differences.

Now we need a new campaign and new characters

How did you get the graphics to be smoothed out and non pixelated? Can that be changed in the settings or is that just a PC option?

Visual clutter is mostly because of the hit and attack move FX, so they could either make them smaller, allow us to choose "limit FX for clarity" or change the sprites so they don't block so much of the visuals when they go. Also, drawing order of everything could be tweaked so that more important stuff is always at the front.

I’m still scared to let my kids play without me because they might reset all my characters to level 1 from 10. It would be nice to only be able to reset this in the options menu. Not in the very beginning of starting a new game.

Playing with taunts disabled is great! The game moves faster!

I never knew there was a hardcore scene for beat ‘em ups. It is interesting to see that there are some similarities between this community and the fighting game community. Game developers are gearing toward casual gamers (nothing wrong with that) but they are alienating their core audience. There has to be a middle ground. I hope developers continue to realize this!

I wish the turtle color mod I saw online was official.

How did you get the turtles to change different tone colors?

How do you change their colors?

I wanna play as the Shredder beating up his own Foot members. No explanation required

I wish we had different skins like the pc has mirage colors or Archie and promotional art colors

Crossing my fingers for mirage skin updates 🤞

They should made the taunt super charge thing an option. If i play with my kid it makes him feel powerfull when he is otherwise not to great. I get it but it should of been an option

It's refreshing to see a video game content creator who talks in depth about the mechanics and moment to moment game play rather than story or some other convoluted bs even if I disagree half of the time

They need to get Screwloose in there wtf. Every game that features Wingnut just leaves him out. So disappointed with as many characters in here they still leave Screwloose out.

Wait what about the color skins? That was the most important update to me! I don't see it on my switch, did they release their update yet?

The throws were never a problem for me

Question, are those mods for the turtles color change or is it a menu option that I missed?

Good breakdown, thanks! Just wondering, for the alternate colors, is that a mod that was used, or is that option now in game?

It looks to me like overall the game is flat out easier, plus no unlimited taunts. Which is chill I guess but thankfully all the things you can modify. I personally was hoping for more levels or characters but this is more important the not accidentally facing the other way thing, plus grabs.

How do you got the different palette of greens tones for the turtles?

Your beef with boss battles is the same I have with River City Girls 2. Expanded combat that can’t be used on bosses. If you haven’t , I’d recommend trying out Jitsu Squad. It’s now my favourite beat em up with more content on the way.

I never used the taunt I just earned the supers, but it makes me happy knowing I won't have to wait for people to taunt 3 times

I’m so glad to see these changes, especially to the taunt mechanic.

I have a lot of love for devs who make these patches after the product has shipped.

I still forget to taunt anyway man LOL

Remember when "super" attacks in beat'em-ups did damage to your character? Ahh... Nostalgia. 😛

So, tribute fix already the wrong dubbing from Donatelo ?? Your "hiiiiiiaah" actually belongs to Raphael... You guys noticed that too right...?

Surely the best Christmas present ever is when devs listen to your constructive criticism to improve their already decent game? Happy Holidays Mayo, it's been another great year for your channel - and I'm eagerly waiting for your Best/Worst Games of 2022 video!👏🎉🍺 I loved the very obvious dig at Sifu at the very end also!🤣😅🤪

Doing a taunt to refill special from two up till 3 either has been removed or fixed which does not help my family likes playing this game with me having a few specials to use whenever faster through taunts helps and makes the game more fun.

I’m still waiting on my physical copy. Anyone know when they will ship?

Incredibly detailed video, thank you!! Love these, exploring the throw game mechanics really helped me!

I really wanted a simple flashing blinky inverted color icon,specifically only on my charters belt buckle( why do turtles wear belt buckles) . That way I think it would be easier to track my guy on screen without tons of practice getting used to it!

Very wel said and I do think that overall these changes are good. I know it's an old video. Sorry if I am a bit late to reply to it. But thanks for this video. My only gripe I have currently is that for more casual players like myself the helping of your buddies that are dying is impossible to do. It takes so long to resurrect them, that it is pretty much pointless to try. Really wished they shortened the bar or that if you didn't completely get it, because you get hit, it wil remain where it was or slowly drop instead of completely resetting. For more competent players this might not be an issue, but for casuals that only play this game for fun with friends overall this has kind of made me get frustrated more than once. It feels like an oversight and just a useless function if you are never really able to save someone. Specially against bosses, they wil hit you within that timeframe almost every single time. It's like it is programmed that way, that they boss wil attack you just before you can get the player to continue. It might be seen as a minor thing, but I feel they did that function better in other similar games. :/

2:37 Nah dude, I frames for throws should only negate physical attacks not projectiles, explosives etc.

Since Fight N Rage came out, other beat em ups have been scrambling to try to come close to it.

The game crashes in online arcade mode EVERY RUN now. 6 or 7 runs in a row crashed. They broke the game.

Very few things about this game was worse than the taunt spam. Especially if you had a combo going, only for it to time out due to one person staying back to taunt up the special bar.

I wish they had at least had added the option to turn on taunt charging to radical mode. this is my kids' first beat em up and they love it, but they love it less without that option. Yes, they're super casual, but kids and casuals liking a TMNT game is a good thing.

The only problem I've run into is that Wingnut freezes and doesn't attack when doing certain attacks on him. I've reported this to Doremu and provided logs, so hopefully that'll be addressed at some point.

So major problem now are network synch and slug bosses

All sounds great but it would be cool if there was a hardcore mode where throws didn’t grant u invincibility also but I’ll take it

All I want to know is how you're using Donatello with a different colorway, was that added in the latest patch?

Time for the combat condiments commentary!

Well what do you know, I didn't know about this video and the updates mentioned in the video. I stopped playing this game few weeks later after the release date because I felt it was not worth it to grind the same game again and again because of its issues due to combat being flawed, but it's nice to see the game has been updated and some of these issues were fixed :)

6:18 This is a great universal change. But the old way should still be an option for a new easier difficulty or something for those who still want it. Forcing change does not work for everyone and can lead to results that may not be what you are expecting are hoping for, rather it concerns you or not.

I’d like to say I am so happy that 2-D beat em ups have once again found a home in the gaming community, because I remember during the N64/ps1 and ps2/xbox/gamecube eras beat em ups had nowhere to go, especially Sprite-based to D beat em ups, they were looked upon as old or a fad, and I think it started with castle crashers on the Xbox 360, and not to mention social media ( like this channel) that led the game business know, that there is so much more you can do with a beat em up. I never thought I would see another. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles beat em up like this ever again.

Nah I don't like that at all. Performing a throw should not make you invincible. A throw should only allow you to hit other enemies with who you're throwing. Stunning an enemy in order to perform a throw that's OK.

Is it me or did they make Donny darker than before?

They need to patch it so Casey Jones appears on the title, menu screen and in cutscenes after he's unlocked. More playable characters would be cool too, like Fugitoid, Miyamoto Usagi (or as he's incorrectly named in the cartoon, "Yusagi Yojimbo"), Mondo Gecko or Mona Lisa. 3 characters at least to round it off to 10 total. There are other gripes I still have that can't actually be patched without ruining levels, like Granitor being the only boss from Turtles 2-4/the arcade games that hasn't returned (can't be patched in because there's no place to put him), and the fact that Wingnut is a villain in this when it's established that he's an ally of the Turtles, and Tempestra, a minor villain, being chosen for the game over someone else more prominent (... hey, I found where Granitor could have gone!). Last gripes: Why did they use the shitty cartoon look for Slash over the superior Playmates action figure version used in all of his other game appearances? And what did they do to the Pizza Monsters!?

I just played this earlier today after not having played it for a few months, and I didn't really notice any major changes other than not being able to fully fill your super meter with taunt spam, which was a welcome change. I still have pretty much the same issues with the game that put it below top tier beat em ups. Throw game still feels pretty crappy compared to other beat em ups. The dodge feels awkward to me. The double jump feels off, with the way you have to hit the second input before the apex for it to register. The fact that dashing and hitting jump does a slide instead of a dash jump like every other game that has a dash will always feel wrong to me. And the input buffer on the dash is crazy. You can wait an eternity between inputs and it will still register as a double tap. I accidentally dash all the time when I'm trying to tap into a better position. This has never happened to me in any other game. And in a game that wants you to taunt somewhat regularly, only having one taunt is a major sin. Seeing that one pose and hearing that one bark gets old fast. Even one more taunt per character would do wonders here. So yeah. This update doesn't really fix the issues I have with this game. I had fun with it during the honeymoon period, but now that it's over, all the little annoyances are too much for me to want to keep playing.

Is taunt deactivated per default in the arcade mode? Because when not, having the option to deactivate it is kinda useless because in the same fashion you could just decide to not taunt. It's more about how the game communicates what's the right and most fun way to play, but if taunt refilling the special bar remains the standard setting it only communicates that deactiving that trait is an self-imposed difficulty restriction, not the actual way how the game is supposed to challenge you.

a thing that infuriated me wasn't so much the updates it was that after them (it seemed like anyway) all my progress just went away , i've got the game up to snuff again, but did this happen with you?

Hey man. There's this game called Serious Sam : Siberian Mayhem. I'd love to know your thoughts about it. Will you review it?

That's all great but why do I have to pay full price to upgrade to the ps5 version?

Chromedome's boss fight on Gnarly was so obnoxious before this patch. Even when ya grab a foot ninja, the rest of the ninjas can still bum rush you while your trying to throw them, easily burning through a life Xb

WHEN CAN I PLAY AS SLASH?!!!

Why is your Donatello darker than usual? Ist it also on Switch version?

More playable characters

I hope the next update can add a pvp option. Imagine 1v1, 2v2 or 3v3! It would be awesome!

I wonder if they plan on doing any add-on content for this I bought it for the switch and I'm debating on whether or not I should get it on the steam deck

to be honest this game was a huge let down. The SNES game is still the king. It was the perfect length too. This new game is so got damn long. It get's boring! And the combat like someone wrote is just ok. It doesn't feel as nice as playing something like Streets of Rage 2 or the SNES version or the NES arcade version. I can't believe they didn't study those games more carefully as they did with Sor4. All Sor4 need is a pixelart addon, and it would be golden! That even improved some mechanics like juggle ability, etc! Big let down.

I only wish Tribute allowed you to toggle throw controls so that you have the option to throw like you would in Turtles in Time. In that game, you’d have to hold the D-pad toward the direction that you’re facing a stunned Foot Soldier while hitting the attack button. In Shredder’s Revenge, you have to be neutral rather than hold towards in order to engage the throw. It’s a small change, but a significant one, particularly because having to stay neutral in order to engage a throw means you can’t dash attack straight into stunning a Foot Soldier and then go straight into the throw. I love this game so much otherwise.

Now we just need Fugitoid, Irma and Nobody as playable characters. As well as new Turtle's skins.

Hey! Great vid!! What are the best beat ‘‘em up games out there ? For ps4 and ps5?

You're the only reviewer I've seen that recognized just how detrimental the throw system was to the entire experience. In fact most reviewers I've seen gloss over most of the game's legitimate issues. The throws were part of the reason I put the game down so soon. The other reason was that online multiplayer was literally just every player constantly taunting and throwing out supers. It was totally mindless.

Nice! Now we need more characters to play as! Usagi, any of the toads, Panda Khan, etc

I’m so disappointed with the CRT filter effect. It darkens the screen and dulls all the colors. I was hoping it would have a glow effect like Fightn Rage and some other games. 😢

Honestly surprised they fixed some of the major flaws. It's fairly uncommon for devs to actually listen to the more critical player base for games like this (Even some indie ones). Though, like you said the additions aren't perfect. One idea to make something like the health based supers encourage extended juggles would be if they made them like special abilities in Streets Of Rage 4. Giving ghost health that regenerates from hitting enemies, and disappearing if hit. Allowing a risk/reward factor that still encourages extending juggles and not getting hit. So long as the amount of health a super takes is balanced properly. Preferably as another custom setting since there is an appeal of it being a harder to replenish resource to some players with how it is in its current state. In regards to that other game, I hope those unnamed indie developers actually start fixing flaws with their game like these ones have. Looking around in the files I found some things that may point towards extra tutorial content. However, if they end up not implementing anything like that there's at least some modders that can do more than add bells and whistles. As well as people like you willing to make tutorial videos for some of the unexplained basic mechanics.

Curious to see what you think about River City Girls 2.

Mixed feelings on the invincible throw at first but I think it was definitely the right decision. Even if I do disagree with characterizing the game as being broken for such a change. It’s a nice update

Can't say I'm a major fan. Sure, the updates are inherently improvements, but I've just never been too keen on games being changed in ways that dramatically alter how it functions. I've always found it annoying to get used to a game working a certain way, only to then have it no longer work that way.

I noticed those colors on Don and Raph through your video. Was this part of the update?

I would like to see an option where getting hit only removes a small amount of the super bar you're building up, instead of the whole thing. Could have been another play style option. I could accept the "taunt only fills one bar" change, if getting hit didn't completely empty the bar you were working on filling up. Why did they force that as the unchangeable rule? They should have made it a new option like everything else. Last time I played this game, I noticed sometimes the last little bit of the bar would get real stingy about filling up. I'd be almost there, beat a couple more soldiers, go to deal with another and get hit by a cheap shot. Losing everything. Like some of the time, the first 80% fills up from beating a few enemies, and the last 20% would take beating several guys. The bar would even look full but, it hasn't counted a number, yet. Too bad, so sad. If you only got hit once in every group of enemies, you'll never get to do a super. That was my experience last I played.

a game called shredders revenge should have a shedder as the main character

would love if they make every character a little different from each other, maybe it's too much but gosh this would make the game as good as streets of rage 4

They should add throws to ultrakill :)

How do your turtles have the different skin tone? Swear mine are all the same. Love the more distinct colour way per tutrtle you have!

So do you think they will ever add any more playable characters?