The Cutest Dressage Grand Prix Freestyle EVER [[Hans Peter Minderhoud and Equis Nadine]] 

OMG THANK YOU FOR THE SONG!!!

+Josey Green wow you're so welcome!

Lol I have been looking for the name for about a month 😂 I kept forgetting

+Josey Green oh wow

+Listen to Joel Faverie and sob I think it was chosen for that reason. They are quite happy together!

ImpossibleAlien Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

@@nebulabunny8633 you are right that spurs, a heavy bit can ve bad. I personally never use them, however if used corectly by realy good riders who know their horse really well ans have a good bond its not harmfull. The horses mouth isnt pulled open in this video, he is foaming a little bit but not excessively so its not bad (there are a lot of informational videos about this). After the ride you van see that the horse is relaxed. I know the channel you mention and I agree that a lot of the things in dressage can be bad for the horse or even abusive but that is not necessarily how it has to be. When you start dressage you always want to the horse to work for you from relaxation not stress or fear or pain, it stays that way even in higher levels

Bonnie Bella Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

Nebula Bunny lol. I know this was a couple months ago, but I'm dying of laughter! Can you really not read a horse at all?? And Think Like A Horse is a complete and utter idiot. They are required to ride in a double bridle at this high level of dressage, and the horse is very obviously not in pain. He is fairly relaxed, has wonderful collection and awesome suspension, and you can tell he had a great work ethic. His neck is a little too short and tight for my liking, but that is not rolkur. This horse is a hardworking althlete, not a delicate little butterfly. So keep your mis-informed, biased opinion to yourself. Instead of ridiculous channels like Think Like A Horse and RaleighLink14, watch Shelby Dennis and channels like hers. Shelby is the most well researched, calm, reasonable youtuber in the world. She cites her sources in her videos and explains things how they are.

I started out in the gaited world & was too young to understand all the abuse that goes on, especially at upper performance levels. Tail sets, soring - wrapping the lower leg in a caustic solution to promote that horrible & unnatural "Big Lick" gait. It's disgusting. Gaited horses should be judged on their natural gaits, unfortunately flat-shod is not as exciting to the spectators who have no idea the intense pain these horses are enduring to put on such a flashy show. Nebula Bunny's comment about "foaming" had me chuckling. Saliva shows the horses mouth is well lubricated & he's accepting the bit. If you are going to rant about horse cruelty find some with some merit.

@@abbygrimit5858 Thank you so much for this. Nebula keeps spamming the same comment and acting like Think Like a Horse is some sort of horse guru. He's not. Neither is Raleigh. Glad you put this out there.

I was just watching the freestyle at the 2021 Olympics and I had to come revisit this video and saw your comment. I was noticing that some of the riders, like Charlotte Dujardin, would drop the reins completely at the end of their test, as Hans did here. That's a trustworthy horse!

aj gensel - You could not be more right! Everything was fantastic but the thing I really loved was her tail. She was enjoying the whole thing...immensely. To get that kind of control and still have the horse loving it is amazing.

I spent a good portion of my time specializing with ponies because I love their expression and attitude. Ponies either love their job or hate it and they will let you know! I've also found that "pony" is more a state of mind than size, I knew a 17hh Hanoverian pony, he hated dressage but loved him his hunter/jumper world. His owner had given up on him because he wouldn't stay in a dressage arena and he and I got along so well because I got him, I knew he was a pony in disguise and was willing to cater to that. Love this little pony, they obviously love this, he/she is having so much fun and it's just a joy to watch. Makes me smile every time I watch it.

aj gensel - I just watched it again...simply for the pleasure of watching her. (I'm thinking of her as a mare because "Nadine" is a female name.) I don't have your experience with ponies. I had a lovely little Welsh when I was a child and I adored him so much that I kept him until he died. I did have a Morgan with what you seem to be describing...a passion for finding the fun in life. I even "caught" him taking the jumps, just for the helluvit, when I put him in the training ring while I mucked out his stall. Sadly, this was in the days before personal camcorders.

Yep, I never noticed her name, but Nadine certainly is female, lol never paid any attention to anything but the horse and rider. The one horse I actually owned was a Morgan cross with the same love of jumping, he used to try to subtly leg yield over to a line a fences like he thought I wouldn't notice after I had retired him and like you I kept him just shy of 13 years when I was forced to put him down. He was the one that started me working with ponies for others, people just didn't seem to get they were more than a transitional mount. Our family had a camcorder, though it was huge, but they never cared enough to come to the farm much less film me ride so all I have are photos of him, but so many good memories like him biting an apple in half in my fathers pocket or his fascination with licking anything smooth, his amusing way of giving anyone who boarded him some comeuppence by letting them know if they forgot to latch a door or gate, he never went anywhere, he'd be standing just the other side of it and wait to be caught. Such characters aren't they?

aj gensel - Yes, Morgans really are characters. I love the story about the apple. It could have gone very bad...depending on the pocket. LOL My family definitely considered ponies "for kids" but I've always had a sneaking desire to have a real Victorian pony cart replica and the ponies to go with it. Since I've gotten older, driving is more attractive than riding and I can't help but think that an hour in the open air every day, would do me a world of good. Not to mention all the parade and event opportunities.

FEI Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

Nebula Bunny You idiot, FEI knows *WAAAAAAY* more about horses then you

Hayden MistStream so you are clearly missing the horse abuse. Do you not see the pain in this animal's eyes?

Hayden MistStream see this video, it explains what this is ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4UwqyMCr_7c.html

Hayden MistStream besides, these people do not care about horses, they care about money. You should know how sports like these really are if you're into the horse world. If you really love horses, see the video, I am begging of you, because this is abuse, but people like those of FEI do not care.

LOVE HORSES Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

@@nebulabunny8633 r u blind lol

1111TruthSeeker Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

Do You know what breed she is? Beautiful girl

@@FlySky35 Dutch Warmblood! :)

Same here :3

:P

I do not believe you are correct. Some horses enjoy this and her movements were very natural. You can tell if a horse does not enjoy dressage or not and this horse clearly does. Besides, if you think this is abuse, then why suport it by watching it?

how else am i going to get an opinion without watching?

Boo11Bear You don't form an accurate opinion just by watching. If you think all forms of dressage are abuse and unnatural you clearly know nothing of the sport. Yes, dressage modifies and heightens some movements that the horse performs, just as dancing does in humans. It is all based on natural functions and abilities, and when done right posesabsolutely NO risk of discomfort to the horse. I will agree that quite a few riders don't know how to do it right, and the animals suffer from it, but your attitude is in no way helping the situation either.

Arii JMA wtf tries opening mouth and is constantly swiping. Natural head position? Wtfffff

Arii JMA if it was natural and comfortable the horse would have walked the same when he released the pressure from the reins, but it didn't.

Arii JMA Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

it enjoyed being forced into unatural positions,loud music in its ears,a massive crowd making extra noise and a metal bit in his mouth pulling possible shredding parts of his gum?

Just because you don't have a horse in your profile picture doesn't mean you can iidentify animal abuse. I don't have a dog in my picture and know that hitting dogs is abuse.

Two moody Mares I don't need a bit and I don't need to tie down my horse's head to ride.

I can totally see why people would think this is horse abuse. This was a quite nice ride, the rider seemed to use less pressure than other people often do in this sport. Still, the bits they use are way to harsh, even if you use them carefully. It's not necessary to use a bit that big, if it's possible to ride like that with no bit at all. It's quite common for Dressage riders to put more pressure on the bit the "better" they get. But it should be the opposite. The better the rider is, the less tools and pressure he needs to ride good. Many people do not strive to even last five minutes in the competition world, because some people do horrendous things to their horses, just to win a ribbon. If you only ride to win competitions, than you should probably play tennis, or do some other sport where no animals are harmed for the pleasure of people.

Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

Besides no rider needs a 50 cent ribbon to prove they are good riders, it is enough to know how to spot abuse to know you are good rider. You are not

Two moody Mares oops i’m not an equestrian

+Marit I don't believe bits Hurt if they are not yanked on and this guy is using Spurs correctly so no problem here.

+Marit also you have to wear Spurs at this level of dressage I believe

+Marit It depends on what Spurs. I used ones with plastic round edges, i am not departing about Spurs with you as it has nothing to do with what I said in the comment and it is wasting my time

+Marit k. I know things about horses. I don't need you to write lengthy comments for no reason, which may I add I am not reading

+PuReEqUiNe Yes, amazing athletic horse, loves his job and in great partnership with the rider! Awesome performance!

Also look how nicely the rider is holding his hands, they are not pulling on the bit. His hands are quiet and still.

Unfortunately there is pain in the dressage world when riders use rollkur.

I only have a problem with the spurs

Jalyn Watson no, the thing is that when horses are in pain they will try to avoid it by submission, this horse has the head threw all the way back, foaming and opening it's mouth, they learn that by bucking and such it will only be worse and will also be punished, if someone told that to you, they know nothing, those words are spread by people who compete in these events and go by the easy, suffering way in order to skip steps. It also; hurts the horse's teeth, gums, tongue, mandible, lips, neck bones, neck tissue, back tissue, it stresses the horse and also makes ir be nervous and anxious besides from the fear they have. Rollkur is unacceptable and it generally uses long, painful and harsh bits.

Nebula Bunny 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

we all have our own preferences on what you should start out with to ride, It's really a matter of what you plan on doing with horses. I started out with hunter and I find it helps get you started with great eq for jumping buy for people who aren't jumping I agree dressage would be a good start

although most non equestrians commenting stupid things would probably not even last a few minutes doing any of the disciplines XD

Alchemon Creator you're a know it all bitch!!! Even worse than the other dumbass

Pernie Sweemmer actually, they are right... and of the current equine disciplines dressage is, one of, if not the oldest and is the least harsh on the horses health. I mean there are horses in dressage now that would be a decade past retirement age for pretty much any other discipline. It is even common for injured ex-showhorses to participate in lower levels of dressage movements to help strengthen and renew flexibility. While there are still improvements to be made, dressage is still moving faster than most western disciplines in becoming more humane to the horse.

YES! I completely agree. You have to learn how a horse moves and how to communicate with the horse if you want to truly know how to ride.

Arii JMA Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

Big Nebby Neb Wowwww copy and paste... so professional. And btw that horse is completely relaxed, if he wasn’t he wouldn’t be moving so smoothly and forward. As someone who has a horse who has issue with being tense I know first hand that this is NOT a tense. The horse also just has a short neck that’s not rulker because you can see his neck is relaxed as well. The rider has steady hands that don’t bump on the reins and the horse seems to be enjoying him or herself. And think like and horse doesn’t really have much science behind his opinions, that’s why they are called opinions. Your turn to try to prove me wrong

@@majorfabio6720 I think copy paste is a good option since so many people are wrong here. Those competitions are cruel and you can tell that the bit is hurting the horses mouth. Normally, horses don't have their mouth open. It's tail doesn't stop flicking once, you can see that the horse is nervous. And sure tHe riDeR gAvE iT A PeT bEcAuSe hE loVeS hiS hOrsE but so do jockeys after a race and destroying their horses legs.

Agreed! I noticed the same thing thing in the extended trot, lots of fore leg action while the back legs just dragged behind. If you want to see a really good dressage test, look up Charlotte Dujardin, and notice the difference, notably the relaxed tails of Charlotte's horses. This one continually swishes his tail, probably because the rider is jabbing him in the side with his spurs at every stride!

The rider is not jabbing the horse every stride. Yes I agree a lot of horses continually swish their tail bc they're uncomfortable, but some of them do just swish their tails. This horse doesn't look too uncomfortable. Some horses like Blue Hors Matine you could see it in her eyes that she wasn't really enjoying it

I think shes concentrated and a little bit under pressure for doing a giod job, by hereself and of course she feels the tension ofthe rider. She looks to me as if she enjoys most of it.

Yes. Thats the thing, from a Classical POV, most competitive dressage is like this. Totilas was loved world round for his flashy steps. But that flash came at the cost of good training. Even Valegro is not perfect, he didn't have the poll as the highest point. Go back to classical training for a while, and then we'll see happy horses in the rings again.

Tammy Rauch, Oh please, get over yourself. Enjoy the moment and keep your criticism for another day! This is joyful to watch.

Jeanne Nilsson I kow right!!!

Abby Galitzky Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

it's just concentrated

I know this is late, but why would the horse be happy if it had a metal bit in its mouth and forced to go into unnatural positions with loud music and people screaming in its ears. Also the tail slashing from side to side is a sign that the horse isn't comfortable.

Lindsay Alberts that horse is tense and scared, they are using rollkur on him, look at this; ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4UwqyMCr_7c.html

Cloudia Plays umm honey, I think you need more knowledge of horses. Bits do NOT hurt them and I can see the bit in that horses mouth, it’s not harsh. Second, unnatural positions?! Child, all eight of my horses necks are like that. It’s common and they are trained to do that. Third, it doesn’t give a shit that music and people aware screaming. If it did she would be spooking. Lastly,swishing a tail is a sign of enjoyment and pleasure. Just look at the ears. Based on what you just commented, I don’t even think you know what a horse is. K I’m done here Bye

Claire Clearman YOU NEED KNOWLEDGE. See that head? It is behind the 90 degrees line, first sign of rollkur, plus, no horse neck is like that, horse heads NEVER get behind the line naturally, as it HURTS THEIR NECK VERTEBRAE, CARTILAGE AND MUSCLES, you will absolutely never see a horse doing that, plus the open mouth Is another sign, foaming is too. That bit is DAMN HARSH, why may you say? It is long, longer means it Is stronger, stronger means more pain, and HELL I WOULS NOT LIKE TO BE THAT HORSE. Another sign of rollkur are unparallel legs, this is not "trained". Plus you can see the woman leaning back slightly. The tail swishing is not relaxed, it indicates irritation and pain. Get informed, dear, go see Think Like a Horse channel, please.

Trish Geer Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

Lauren Kelley Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

usually the top dressage riders have musicians make their freestyle arrangements especially for them - so I gather - it's unlikely that you'd be able to get this music anywhere ...

Ah. That's what I was thinking and figured. I could recognize some of the songs, but it did sound like a musician or artists had premixed the track for this particular dressage event. Well to whoever mixed the track, it was brillantly done. thanks for the info though. :)

Do you know the song on 4:00? Is that Happy together?

oxMalenga Absolutely right. No one makes it to Grand Prix Dressage by abusing their mount.

T.F. Schroeder Totillas is in Grand Prix.. his previous owner used rollkur on him, and the rest of his mounts. It happens behind closed doors but there are pictures of people doing it in GP warm ups post the ban.

xxcolourmecrazyxx maybe so, but not every rider does this. Now that we know more about how hyperflexion affects horses, and now that it's illegal, it happens less often because it doesn't truly teach collection to a horse-it just teaches a headset. This horse looks very relaxed, as oxMalenga said. Most dressage riders are trying to get their horse to be supple, light, and willing to work, and rollkur just doesn't achieve that.

ultimate gamer Sadly still disagree with you. Every horse nowadays is overbent with cranks done up far too tight and tension in the whole neck.

xxcolourmecrazyxx every horse? I ride dressage. My horse rests nicely on the bit in a lower, relaxed frame. No horse where I ride is over bent or tense through the neck. What discipline of riding are you interested in? Do you over bend your horse? Also, some of these horses have very large, muscular necks, which can give the impression of being over bent.

+Josey Green "cause equestrians don't hurt there horses they are in the sport for a reason cause they love them..." Oh really??? maybe the average teenager equestrian tries - I wrote TRIES - not to hurt the horse he owns / rides. Do you have any idea how many horses end up at the slaughterhouse because of not fitting saddle, low riding skills, poor posture of the rider (yes, if they put a bit more body weight to one side of the horse back the result are spine problems of the horse) ... and so forth. I did not mentioned the 'training" methods which would be illegal if done on human athletes.... at least in Europe and North America.... Looks nice though - during competition.... as long as you don't know what hyperflexion does to the horse... and how the horse was trained to perform as showed in competition...

+Josey Green and it also means that the horse is lubricating its mouth so it is ok:)

+Josey Green Do you drool or foam at the mouth when you are thinking?? I thought not. Neither do horses. They don't lick and chew when they are thinking either. Excessive drooling is either pain or an attempt to calm down after stress (just like in people. Ever had the sh*t scared out of you? You'll find your mouth goes dry)

+Josey Green The foam in the mouth can be from the relacations....but not every time. A too hard hand or when the horse is too deep or just can't breath right because it's to short, it can't swallow the saliva. Then it coms out of the mouth as foam. So not every horse which shows foam is relaxed. In this video we see a horse, which isn't active with his hindleg (watch the piaffe), which shows pain or a lot of other things through his tail. Also we don't see much activity in the croup. So in this performance is a lot not okay, but this is normal in this leage and this is really sad. We don't see a right piaffe or passage, it's just something the horse learned to do with his legs

+Margaret Davies please for gods sake read up on what having a soft mouth in a horse means !!! your wrong

Amber Hopper Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

Valerie Wolf Valegro is a gelding and both Hester & Dujarrdin are known advocates & practitioners of LDR. Allegedly LDR isn’t as harmful as rolkur, however similar issues are visible to the practiced eye. A horse that seems to curl under during collected movements, especially in piaffe. You can clearly see Valegro attempting to gape against the bit during the Rio Olympics in slow motion footage, but he’s unable to evade excessive pressure because the noseband is too tight.

Hi John I turned to this again as I am fitting new cartridges and I have to say how magnificent this horse performed Burt

John Parsons Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

+BarneyFromBlack Mesa put it this way, I'd rather be a dressage horse than a bricklayer.

well said

BarneyFromBlack Mesa oooohhhhh aren't you a little bitch

It’s actually more comfortable for a horse to have that head set while being ridden as the horse becomes round over its back and can support rider better.

Lucie Wodskou in self carriage or when ATV, yes. BTV can mess a horse up. The easiest way to tell if a horse is ATV or BTV is to look at the poll, it should be the hightest point. The highest point on this horse is the middle of the neck, he is overbent and BTV.

thinkfirst Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

Mega Mindy Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

She did :3 it's like a little bit of Blue Horse Matine lives on :)

Aaaaaargh7 do you know that a horse swishing its tail when it is tense and in distress? i dont think so.

7 This lovely mare reminds me of Blue Hors Matinee, whom I loved dearly

Mango & Mish Exactly! Compared to an abused horse, example Totilas, the neck was in a very natural position. In fact, a hunter/ lesson quarter horse at my barn (the horse as my profile photo) that has not once done dressage, does that a lot.

Kittys.equii_clips she was BTV. Watch the extened trot. She should have been given more rein and encouraged to reach up and under with the hind legs. Instead move movment upfront, and the hindquaters weren't engaged. If a horse dips BTV on their own, ok, but look at the reins. She is being held at that spot. You cant tell from this angel , but she probably has a bit of a "hollow back" from not rounding.

Jeannie McCap not Rollkurred, but still way to far BTV. The poll should be the highest point, it isn't. The hindquaters aren't engaging in the extened trot. Better but not good.

Jeannie McCap Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

+Barbara Reed cut?

Sarah Sheppard Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

Sarah Sheppard ggryggf

Asia Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

FlowingDepths Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

As if you could do it better xD

As a matter of fact, I could. And I would get it done without the tail swish, too. Thank you for asking.

Yeah you wish. nobody is never gona believe that

Keep studying horsemanship and English. You'll get better at both over time.

You'll never get far with that ego of yours

Saskia Meier yep. Watch the extened trot, almost no engaging of the hindquaters.

Hannah Horres you are wrong, I posted comments everywhere here. See them and I explain

Nebula Bunny how am i wrong? I can't exactly go digging through the comments. If i made an error, explain and I'll listen.

Hannah Horres this is my copy-paste comment: Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

Nebula Bunny oh, ok. Rollkur is what your saying. Yes, i agree this horse was probably trained with Hyperflexion. I say probably because i don't know this horse and have not heard of this combo before this video. So we agree, Hyperflexion was the most likely training method, i think?

She actually looked very relaxed. If you notice her ears flop as she does some movements, I wouldn't pay much mind to the tail... I have never seen a grand prix dressage horse that doesn't have a lot of tail movement haha

Camryn B when the horse twitches its tail the way it does, it Means that it is tense and in distress, there is no relaxtiation in forcing a horse under lod

It's a matter of the horse and their behavior. I used to ride a thoroughbred that would do that no matter what. Majority of the time, she was swatting flies off her hind-quarters.

Cam Valegro. Barely moves his tail and he's not over bent.

i am talking about Valegro' tail, in my reply to another comment. he bends just before the poll, its not ideal but he is not overbent.

Emma Zitzer Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

I'mJustASadTwigOfLemonMyrtle Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.

colleen mcgee Come here and prove me I am wrong. Holy shit everyone is so wrong here, let's see; head threw back all the way, tense, mouth open until touching the neck, foaming, use of a long, painful and harsh bit "the horse likes it" you all may say, I see the horse is tense and in pain, tail moving around all the time, the whites are visible sometimes io, but maybe the biggest signs and the most used to spot rollkur are that the head is threw back beyond the line, beyond 90 degrees, and that when the horse walks "normally", the legs are not parallel. Go and get informed about horse abuse, I recommend the Think Like a Horse channel, he gives good explainations about this.